boydapa11 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Dana is going to do everything, just to sign up fedor and for Fedor it's the wisest decision he'll ever make. bigger money and a larger audience. I'm watching he's fight in net. he's really good in ground and stand up. he'll definetely give Brock something to worry about. let's all hope and pray. Quote Link to comment
King Nothing Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Much as I'd like to see Emelianenko beat the s@%t out of Lesnar, I don't think he could easily beat Lesnar. If you saw Fedor's fight with Arlovski, Arlovski was leading on points coz he fought smartly since he was taller and had an obvious reach advantage until he made the foolish move of going for a knee to the face, which was telegraphed and was met by a punch which knocked Arlovski cold. Had Arlovski continued to fight the smart fight, he could have won by decision. If Lesnar will fight smart against Emelianenko like he did against Mir, I see a Lesnar win. Actually mir had a chance to defeat the white gorilla during the second round... mir used his speed in striking and almost got the white gorilla in cobweb, until he went back to ground and white gorilla pounded him... So if fedor will keep it standing and used his speed as he did with his fight against crocop, which he won... So i think fedor got a chance with the right strategy... btw check this out the white gorilla apologizing fer his ....err...hahahaha look @ the diffenrence bet gsp and the white gorilla... gsp looks more like a champion!!!!! heres the link: http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/mma/UFC/14458660 Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 If its wrestling, it has to to be cotoure or matt hughes, if its striking it has to be lidell or machida, if its jiu jitsu, it has to be Silva or Gracie. But there are only a notable few who are both effective as strikers and as wrestler. This is why Fedor deserves to be the undisputed the King of the MMA. Lesnar does not have Fedors speed, he does not have his experience and the quantity and quality of opponents fought, and sure s@%t he does not have his technical skills. Sure Lesanar has a lot of brute force to overwhelm his opponents, but he hasnt faced a consumate fighter like fedor. Pwede ba tayo magsignature campaign dito sa Inet para mapilitan si Fedor to sign up with UFC? kahit one fight deal lang Quote Link to comment
Guest megalodon Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Dapat talaga upakan ni Carwin to si Lesnar. Walang class. assh*le talaga. I thought sa WWE lang sya assh*le since acting lang naman dun. Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) To those of you who dont know the king of MMA, and those of you who think no one can beat Lesnar because of his size watch these clips. Fedor fights guys bigger than him all the time. Notice in those videos how effective this guy is as a striker and a wrestler. I do not see how people can say Arlovski was winning the fight before fedor got a lucky knock out punch. It was barely 3 minutes, and both fighters were measuring up each other, look how accurately that punch was delivered in arlovski,s jaw. If he had been lucky enough to get up from that one, Im sure Fedor would have knocked him out still in the long run. Edited July 15, 2009 by dragonei Quote Link to comment
rockybrawler Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 To those of you who dont know the king of MMA, and those of you who think no one can beat Lesnar because of his size watch these clips. Fedor fights guys bigger than him all the time. Notice in those videos how effective this guy is as a striker and a wrestler. I do not see how people can say Arlovski was winning the fight before fedor got a lucky knock out punch. It was barely 3 minutes, and both fighters were measuring up each other, look how accurately that punch was delivered in arlovski,s jaw. If he had been lucky enough to get up from that one, Im sure Fedor would have knocked him out still in the long run.Thanks for the links, Prof. Wala ba Affliction sa Balls or Skycable? Quote Link to comment
riceb0i Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Much as I'd like to see Emelianenko beat the s@%t out of Lesnar, I don't think he could easily beat Lesnar. If you saw Fedor's fight with Arlovski, Arlovski was leading on points coz he fought smartly since he was taller and had an obvious reach advantage until he made the foolish move of going for a knee to the face, which was telegraphed and was met by a punch which knocked Arlovski cold. Had Arlovski continued to fight the smart fight, he could have won by decision. If Lesnar will fight smart against Emelianenko like he did against Mir, I see a Lesnar win.yup, gone are the days when styles makes fights, now it's gameplans makes fights Fedor fights guys bigger than him all the time. I do not see how people can say Arlovski was winning the fight before fedor got a lucky knock out punch.not really boss, Fedor fought Matt Lindland who is a natural MW in Bodog chief, he also fought a Monster Randleman who was stockier than him but Fedor had a reach advantage (although that Kimura half a minute after being piledriven into the canvass is the sickest) people say that AA was winning since he was more aggressive in the opening & exploited his reach advantage, he just got caught in the moment and tried a fancy flying knee from a distance that can be telegraphed. don't get me wrong boss, i'm a Fedor fan, and as hardcore as they come, but AA had a legit chance of beating Fedor in that fight only if he stuck to the gameplan. Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 not really boss, Fedor fought Matt Lindland who is a natural MW in Bodog chief, he also fought a Monster Randleman who was stockier than him but Fedor had a reach advantage (although that Kimura half a minute after being piledriven into the canvass is the sickest) But when did lesnar fight somone at least equal his size or bigger? Fedor dismantled choi and wasted Sylvia with ease. I do not think he will have a problem adjusting to lesnars size. Besides, its not that Fedor hasn't fought anyone like Lesnar, its more of Lesnar hasn't really fought anyone like fedor. He fought an aging Randy Cotoure, who is obviously finding it hard now to condition himself. He fought a mediocre champion like frank mir who previously beat him previously. IMHO other than the fact that I want somebody to shut lesnar up, Fedor really has nothing to gain from fighting lesnar. Fedor will ass rape lesnar like a biatch. And yes, one of Fedor's best arsenal is his ability to recover. Actually, choi was pounding his face hard with those lunch box fists, and his face was already bruised badly, but still he managed to dismantle him quickly in the first round. You can slam him, bruise him, or even cut him bad but this guy will keep coming after you. If I could give him a nickname Id call him the terminator of mma. BTW, do you guys notice how calm his facial expressions are all the time? people say that AA was winning since he was more aggressive in the opening & exploited his reach advantage, he just got caught in the moment and tried a fancy flying knee from a distance that can be telegraphed. don't get me wrong boss, i'm a Fedor fan, and as hardcore as they come, but AA had a legit chance of beating Fedor in that fight only if he stuck to the gameplan. Yes, but it was barely the opening minutes of the first round and it was too early to tell who was leading. Its kinda like that mayweather hatton fight. In the opening round Hatton was more aggressive and dominating mayweather. But that fight could have also ended in that round if hatton was caught in the chin. Then people would have said "oh hatton was winning that fight, Mayweathe just got lucky with that punch, and Hatton simply did not stick with his gameplan". But that was his gameplan, to bullrush his opponent and dominate. Eventually he got figured out, and got knocked out in the later round. I really thought that was arlovskis game plan, to keep aggressing the more technical fighter to ruin his composure. If he survived that round, fedor would still have figured him out (as he always does with previous opponents), adjusted, and get the knockout eventually. Dana white has every reason to go after Fedor. UFC is the best MMA promotions, and they need to sign in the best in the MMA business. Quote Link to comment
Brownman Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 http://www.fiveknuckles.com/mma-news/GSP-a...ng-UFC-100.html GSP and Alves drinking together!!! Quote Link to comment
Guest megalodon Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 If Fedor can use his speed and have an excellent take down defense, I can see him win. Brock is no slouch when it comes to power so Fedor has to use his speed. If Emelianenko had the Lyoto Machida or Chuck Lidell type of escaping from clinches or from take down predicaments and use his hand speed, Fedor could win by KO. Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 ^^^ If you fight fedor standing up toe to toe, he will knock your ass out cold. If you take him to the ground, he will either submit you or pound your face. There are only a handfull of fighters that are both effective on the ground and standing up, the other one is GSP but Fedor is of course more superior. Most fighters prefer to one-dimensional. If you are a stiker, you just concentrate to be an effective striker and defend yourself against being taken down. If you are a wrestler, you just concentrate to become a better grapler, and defend yourself against strikers. This is the reason why chuck lidell's career ended the way it did. He was an effective stand up fighter, but because he is one dimensional, his style became too easy to figure out that even mediocre fighters could beat him at his own game. Plus Lidell never tried to evolve into a complete fighter, lately he became more of a brawler rather than a tactician. He did not utilize his kicks and foot work like he used to. The reason why fedor is on top of this sport is because no one can really figure him out. Heck, this guy wears a blank face when he is fighting. He is undoubtedly the most intelligent fighter out there. He knows how to calculate a fight. Just look at the way he fought Sylvia, Fedor took that fight like he said to himself "Ok Im gonna finish this guy in 36 seconds. Sylvia could have lost by a knockout in that fight, he was hurt with those blazing hands, but still managed to cover up to protect himself from the onslaught. Other fighters would have kept punching to get the knockout, but by then Sylvia would have been given time to recover into a better position. Now notice how Fedor intelligently anticipated for him to do what he did, because as soon as Sylvia turned his back, and ducked (which I thought fedor expected sylvia would do), he quickly mounts into a rear naked choke position and thats all she wrote. Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont...?urn=nba,176709 Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) WTF? Shaq on MMA? So whats the deal? Dana white will give him a title shot on his first fight, because he is popular and it would make an attraction? I hope this is one terrible joke, because I do believe that lesnar did not deserve the title shot he got. The only reason why it happened was because it would have made money. I understand that the UFC is about businesses, but if this will be a continuing trend MMA will become less of a sport and more of a freakshow. Partly the reason why Lesnar behaves like a spoiled brat is because the UFC did spoil him quite a bit. Ang dami dami dyang contenders na hindi man lang makakuha ng televised fight man lang, tapos si Lesnar komo sumikat lang sa wwe, bibigyan agad ng title shot. For me dapat pagmultahin ng malaki si lesnar. Heck White kicked sorbal out of the UFC because he continued choking his opponent after the referee stopage, then went out to bash the audience. It may be a little too much to do the same to lesnar, but he really should be thought a lesson or two. Its fighters like lesnar who will make MMA a freak show rather than a sport. Like shane carwin said, he may wear the belt around his waist right now, but it does not mean he will get the recognition and respect a true champion has. Its the sponsors and most of all the fans that pay his bills, without them this chump would end up being a bouncer at a titie bar. Its ok to trash talk and even get involved in a little tension before the fight because it sells ticket. But at least have the good decency of showing a little class after the fight. Even Tyson who initiated a press conference brawl with lennox, ended up being magnanimous in his defeat after the fight. He would later on acknowledge that Lennox is one of the best boxers in the world, and that he has a lot of respect for his mother. Lesnar should have done something similar lalo at siya pa yung panalo. IMHO the sport does not need champions like Brock Lesnar. And I will bet the fans dont want a champion like him. Sure people will continue to watch his fights and subscribe to PPV, but only because theyd love to see him get his ass raped by a better fighter. Iba pa din yung having people to watch your fight because they support you win or lose. Just like Chuck Lidell. White should really get fedor to sign in the UFC. He should do it at all cost even if it means sucking Fedors balls Edited July 16, 2009 by dragonei Quote Link to comment
riceb0i Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 i'm sorry boss but i like Brock the way he is right now, a pompous dork as you say he just makes it interesting when he fights, he's got skills if you ask me, but the attitude has to go, although his attitude doesn't really affect the growth of MMA in getting sanctioned by the whole 50 states of the US, or even getting accepted worldwide. the story with Babalu is different chief, he kept that anaconda on David Heath even after Heath tapped and Mazzagatti was commanding him to let go & was trying to break the hold. White had him expelled of the UFC because he doesn't want to get caught in a controversy in case David Heath files attempted homicide on Babalu. and to quote Dana White: "completely unacceptable. This is the fight game and s@%t happens. But no way can you do what he did." "I think you saw the response from the fans. Babalu was a fan favorite. They turned on him immediately." White didn't want any fight related deaths in the UFC thats for sure, but talking smack to a downed opponent and the fans after winning doesn't really hurt that much, if you ask me it just adds more publicity for the org, and a lot of other fighters can ride on that publicity. Quote Link to comment
King Nothing Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I'm not just so sure ha... but there was an interview with brock after his lost to mir, it seems that the way he said something and dana commented on it... it was like it was brock who asked for a title a shot right away...Parang ganun... anyway still brock better learn from GSP... to give respect no matter what.. why after all respect can never amount to any money...I mean hindi mababayaran ng anu man salapi ang respeto... Quote Link to comment
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