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[boyromantico]

On 10/9/2021 at 9:13 PM, getsumei said:

Wait, sorry. Medyo nagcoincide lang kasi I was talking to someone the other day about the Ilocos Norte Windmills plus other things found out from his personal website.

 

I found articles that are not exactly in-line with the Marcos narratives stating that the windmills are initially their idea. At best, the most I could credit to him would be his approval/signing for the go-ahead of the project for his region.

All I'm saying na he was lucky that he was in service during that time.

 

My findings:

There was an external study by NREL (National Renewable Energy Laboratory, US based) which provided a comprehensive map of locations within the Philippines that are feasible for good wind energy alternatives. Numerous locations where found - with Ilocos Norte being one of the best.

 

EDC (Energy Development Corp, Lopez owned) then sent their proposal to build the wind farms and got approvals from ERC/DOE (Energy Regulatory Commission/Dept of Energy) following the Renewable Energy Act 2008. Funding was provided by loans from various bank loans. The project was done with cooperation from other local and international companies

 

In summary, this project seems to be initiated and driven by a private company as a contractor, and given approval by the PH govt - articles I found regarding the project has no mention of any Marcos.

 

Don't mistake this a a bash of the project. I'm all for renewable energies. I'm just saying the narratives does not match. Something that I find... consistent.

 

Now since we are in the topic of his vision for renewable energy, I wanted to know if he had any bills/resolutions in line with it so I can better understand his vision. 

From his website, I found SRN 622 which was labeled as Energy Infrastructure System.

Thinking it was something related to the windmills, I checked the senate site for SRN 622. Only 1 entry was found syempre kasi I searched for the actual resolution number. But what I found as SRN 622 was this:

Authority of LGUs on PCSO’S Small Town Lottery Operations

Filed by Lacson. Ok...

 

That's just one example... I did find more pero finding these kind of mistakes on one's public portfolio as critical as this makes you wonder nalang e...

Brings back memories of his Oxford attainment.
 

edited:
Found that I looked under the wrong congress. 622 is verified as a his resolution for Energy Infrastructure System.

 

 

 

Sources:

https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy01osti/28903.pdf

https://www.power-technology.com/projects/burgos-wind-project-ilocos-norte/

https://www.adb.org/sites/default/files/project-documents/48325/48325-001-xarr-en.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20141109053707/http://www.interaksyon.com/business/64732/edc-starts-construction-of-burgos-wind-farm

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/companies/441491/erc-clears-edc-wind-farm-for-fit-incentives/story/

http://investvine.com/philippines-expands-wind-geothermal/

https://www.bongbongmarcos.com/legislative-accomplishments/

http://legacy.senate.gov.ph/lis/leg_sys.aspx?congress=18&type=resolution&p=1

http://legacy.senate.gov.ph/lis/leg_sys.aspx?congress=16&type=resolution&p=1

 

I don't think Bong2x said it was his idea. If you check the interviews he did years ago prior to this 2022 election brouhaha, he is on record saying he was approached by an Israeli company in 1998 (Yes, after the 1996 completion of the  external study by NREL, the National Renewable Energy Laboratory) about the possibility of putting up windmills in Ilocos. He initially did not consider it seriously because of the financials involved and the long term viability of the project. It was not until WTO began to issue carbon credits and a developer advised him that the plan to create a golf course in Bangui is not advisable due to the strong winds did they pivot and began to seriously assess the Windmill project. 

 

[boyromantico]

On 10/8/2021 at 11:31 PM, PreventerWind said:

 

❌ FAKE NEWS: VP Leni said 4 x 40 = 1600 

✅ FACT: It was a spliced video wherein they removed the part where Leni mentioned the assumption that a small family consumes an average of 10 kilos per week. 4 weeks x 10 kilos x 40 pesos. 4 x 10 x 40 = 1600.

❌ FAKE NEWS: VP Leni said "I have three daughters and they’re all girls" 

✅ FACT: In a report of Nikko Dizon of Inquirer, this is what she actually said: '...They were all DADDY'S girls.'

https://verafiles.org/articles/vera-files-fact-check-netizens-revive-fake-quote-card-attemp

Nakakatawang Yoda yung name mo pero di mo ma-distinguish yung fact sa fake news. LOL!

 

 Its not fake. She did actually said the 1600 computation.... By the way, Ellen Tordesillas, President of Vera Files, is a rabid supporter of Trillanes since way back during his mutineer days and continues to be until this day....Surprising they always release pro-Leni and LP articles right?

 

 

[camiar]

On 10/7/2021 at 3:17 PM, Rook05 said:

Interesting... what do you consider as criteria to vote for him?

He is the only Presidential candidate who has clear ideas about the national developmental issues and has already developed a platform on how to address them.

I like to have a leader who has a clear vision.

For example, on the issue of sufficient energy to sustain our national economic developments, here is what he wants to do:

 

Edited October 12, 2021 by camiar

[YesTony]

6 hours ago, camiar said:

He is the only Presidential candidate who has clear ideas about the national developmental issues and has already developed a platform on how to address them.

I like to have a leader who has a clear vision.

For example, on the issue of sufficient energy to sustain our national economic developments, here is what he wants to do:

 

I see, interesting.  I like his voice in this video and overall message.

With what you say and his direction from the video, wouldn't he fit the responsibilities of either a Secretary of Finance or Secretary of Human Settlements and Urban Development?  This way he can focus on and be responsible for these efforts.

[Gtayo11]

On 10/9/2021 at 9:13 PM, getsumei said:

Wait, sorry. Medyo nagcoincide lang kasi I was talking to someone the other day about the Ilocos Norte Windmills plus other things found out from his personal website.

 

I found articles that are not exactly in-line with the Marcos narratives stating that the windmills are initially their idea. At best, the most I could credit to him would be his approval/signing for the go-ahead of the project for his region.

All I'm saying na he was lucky that he was in service during that time.

 

My findings:

There was an external study by NREL (National Renewable Energy Laboratory, US based) which provided a comprehensive map of locations within the Philippines that are feasible for good wind energy alternatives. Numerous locations where found - with Ilocos Norte being one of the best.

 

EDC (Energy Development Corp, Lopez owned) then sent their proposal to build the wind farms and got approvals from ERC/DOE (Energy Regulatory Commission/Dept of Energy) following the Renewable Energy Act 2008. Funding was provided by loans from various bank loans. The project was done with cooperation from other local and international companies

 

In summary, this project seems to be initiated and driven by a private company as a contractor, and given approval by the PH govt - articles I found regarding the project has no mention of any Marcos.

 

Don't mistake this a a bash of the project. I'm all for renewable energies. I'm just saying the narratives does not match. Something that I find... consistent.

 

Now since we are in the topic of his vision for renewable energy, I wanted to know if he had any bills/resolutions in line with it so I can better understand his vision. 

From his website, I found SRN 622 which was labeled as Energy Infrastructure System.

Thinking it was something related to the windmills, I checked the senate site for SRN 622. Only 1 entry was found syempre kasi I searched for the actual resolution number. But what I found as SRN 622 was this:

Authority of LGUs on PCSO’S Small Town Lottery Operations

Filed by Lacson. Ok...

 

That's just one example... I did find more pero finding these kind of mistakes on one's public portfolio as critical as this makes you wonder nalang e...

Brings back memories of his Oxford attainment.
 

edited:
Found that I looked under the wrong congress. 622 is verified as a his resolution for Energy Infrastructure System.

 

 

 

Sources:

https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy01osti/28903.pdf

https://www.power-technology.com/projects/burgos-wind-project-ilocos-norte/

https://www.adb.org/sites/default/files/project-documents/48325/48325-001-xarr-en.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20141109053707/http://www.interaksyon.com/business/64732/edc-starts-construction-of-burgos-wind-farm

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/companies/441491/erc-clears-edc-wind-farm-for-fit-incentives/story/

http://investvine.com/philippines-expands-wind-geothermal/

https://www.bongbongmarcos.com/legislative-accomplishments/

http://legacy.senate.gov.ph/lis/leg_sys.aspx?congress=18&type=resolution&p=1

http://legacy.senate.gov.ph/lis/leg_sys.aspx?congress=16&type=resolution&p=1

Well structured but mahirap accept ng mga die hard yan. Kung local sources, sasabihin dilawan or bias media. Same if international but the narrative is western puppet or illuminati picking their leader per country. Sabay memes, tiktok at youtube source nila. I’m all for discussing with those either side or on the fence (more irl. I don’t think I can influence strangers online) but yung mga ganun nasa level na ng flat earther or anti vaxxer for me. 

[camiar]

18 hours ago, Rook05 said:

I see, interesting.  I like his voice in this video and overall message.

With what you say and his direction from the video, wouldn't he fit the responsibilities of either a Secretary of Finance or Secretary of Human Settlements and Urban Development?  This way he can focus on and be responsible for these efforts.

Why would BBM go for cabinet level if he can run as President? As president, can delegate these responsibilities to qualified people using the implementation templates that they have proven to work in the past.

[Harding]

Dear Leni, you have proven yourself to be good leader of our country especially during the pandemic. we admire your courage despite the danger you are facing. we are with you. if you ask for support, we are always there for you in our humble capacity. Let Leni lead!

[camiar]

On 10/7/2021 at 3:17 PM, Rook05 said:

Interesting... what do you consider as criteria to vote for him?

Criteria for choosing a president:

1. Experience in running the government. BBM was a Congressman, Senator, Provincial Governor.
2. Knowledge of both National and International Issues that may affect the country.
3. Has vision and focus.
4. Not beholden to oligarchs and vested interest groups.
5. Has his own power base and is not dependent on "kingmakers" to get himself elected

Edited October 13, 2021 by camiar

[YesTony]

21 hours ago, camiar said:

Why would BBM go for cabinet level if he can run as President? As president, can delegate these responsibilities to qualified people using the implementation templates that they have proven to work in the past.

You mentioned performance characteristics which is more fit to being responsible rather than accountable. 

13 hours ago, camiar said:

Criteria for choosing a president:

1. Experience in running the government. BBM was a Congressman, Senator, Provincial Governor.
2. Knowledge of both National and International Issues that may affect the country.
3. Has vision and focus.
4. Not beholden to oligarchs and vested interest groups.
5. Has his own power base and is not dependent on "kingmakers" to get himself elected

These are buzz words.  Can you help me understand by providing examples of accomplishments that i can fact check? 

I observed that BBM was hired by us to work and not be a lackey and wallpaper of Du30. 

[camiar]

38 minutes ago, Rook05 said:

You mentioned performance characteristics which is more fit to being responsible rather than accountable. 

Responsibility and accountability go hand-in-hand. These two provides the motivation to perform. 

To be able to perform, you must have the ability i.e. having the knowledge and experience. 

What's your point?

Edited October 14, 2021 by camiar

[camiar]

31 minutes ago, Rook05 said:

These are buzz words.  Can you help me understand by providing examples of accomplishments that i can fact check? 

Which phrase in my post do you consider buzzwords? I'll repost them below:

"... Criteria for choosing a president:

1. Experience in running the government. BBM was a Congressman, Senator, Provincial Governor.
2. Knowledge of both National and International Issues that may affect the country.
3. Has vision and focus.
4. Not beholden to oligarchs and vested interest groups.
5. Has his own power base and is not dependent on "kingmakers" to get himself elected..."

Choose which one you find too abstract and I'll give  examples to elaborate.

[camiar]

40 minutes ago, Rook05 said:

I observed that BBM was hired by us to work and not be a lackey and wallpaper of Du30. 

Duterte stated in several of his speeches that he would willingly step down anytime if his successor were BBM.

He also said he was just trying to emulate what the late Marcos Sr. has done, but he could not equal Marcos' achievements. He said, "you need another Marcos to bring back the past glory..."

It seems like Duterte is saying he is just holding the position for the interim until another Marcos returns.

Who, then, is a lackey or wallpaper of whom?

 

[MTC]

Dear Leni,

I hope that you will do what you are saying during this election season. Please don't call your supporters stupid for believing in impossible things that you say... like riding a jet ski while holding the flag. I know you didn't say this, just so you'll know that the people are wiser now. I hope.

[MTC]

Dear Leni,

Don't  worry about the renewable energy pogi points that BBM is enjoying. I'm a science connoisseur, and I'm telling you now that these windmills are only good in specific regions of the earth. There is such a thing as a wind map. Yes there is. There's even an app called Windy. My point is, windmills can't be placed anywhere where congress approves budget for it.

Voting for BBM because he will place windmills all over the PH is like creating hydro electric plants in the middle of Makati.

[YesTony]

On 10/14/2021 at 12:14 PM, camiar said:

Duterte stated in several of his speeches that he would willingly step down anytime if his successor were BBM.

He also said he was just trying to emulate what the late Marcos Sr. has done, but he could not equal Marcos' achievements. He said, "you need another Marcos to bring back the past glory..."

It seems like Duterte is saying he is just holding the position for the interim until another Marcos returns.

Who, then, is a lackey or wallpaper of whom?

 

I stand corrected.. Duterte is the lackey of BBM. 😅