rooster69ph Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) Why would a voter waste his vote by being "pasaway"? Sagutin mo yan, otherwise do you even know the meaning of pasaway? google it up then come back to me. may pagkakaiba ba yan sa addict? a drug addict have only one life, they know drugs will be harmfull to them, now tell me why would an one risk wasting his life by using drugs when it says drugs can k*ll you. wag na drugs, yosi na lang...may warning na at nakakatakot na pic sa kaha ng yosi and yet bakit tinatangkilik pa rin ito, why do people still smoke? remember dun sa pinagpipilitan mo, boto lang nila masasayang eto sarili nilang buhay. ano ang mas importante boto o buhay? logic kamo di ba? ayan sinagot na kita ..sige explain ka naman ngayon. Ikaw na mismo nagsabi na wala kang pakialam ano mangyayari sa protest na ito. tama... wala akong pakialam kung anu man ang maging desisyon o kalalabasan ng desisyon ng PET sa protesta. tulad ng sinabi/pinaliwanag ko dati will i be directly affected by it? ako ba si bbm o leni to be directly affected by it? mga miron lang naman tayo sa laban nila. ang proproblemahin ko yun boto ko. yun kung paano bumoto ang iba di ko kontrolado yan pati na rin kung may mga gumawa ba ng kababalaghan kung sino mang kampo yan. pero nasa PET ang desisyon and as i said at the end of the day i may or may not agree with the PET decision but need to accept it. pero may sinabi ba na di ako makikisali sa mga talakayang ukol dito? sinabi ko bang wala akong pakialam sa nga post na di ko sinasangayunan tulad nun iyo? most specially yun mga bias conclusion, may sinabi ba akong hindi ako magrereact sa mga ito? sige nga please show me ... kung wala tahimik na lang wag na magpalusot at magpaikot ha at kung saan saan na naman mapupunta usapan. higit sa lahat PET ka ba na siyang inatasang manuri ng mga ebidensiya at magdesisyo sa protesta? if you are then ill shut the f#&k up kung anu man sabihin mo... matanong lang din kita ...halimbawa lang na nagdesisyon na PET at si Leni ang nanalo, ano gagawin mo? pupunta ka ba sa kalsada para magprotesta? magfa-file ka ba ng protesta o MR sa desisyon ng PET? paano ka maiinvolve sa naging desisyon? Hindi mo siguro ma gets bakit ang tawag sa kanila pasaway? Self explanatory na nga, eh.mahina kasi.well cant blame him ... i specifically asked him to be my guest if he wanna play dumb. didnt know he wanted to be sooooo good at it and took it to his heart to really be one. 😝 Edited May 16, 2018 by rooster69ph Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Ang fact ba ngayon is mas maraming nag under shade na Leni voters than BBM voters significantly? Will it affect the final recount of the vote? If yes ang conclusion is mas maraming pasaway o tangang voters si Leni. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Ang fact ba ngayon is mas maraming nag under shade na Leni voters than BBM voters significantly? Will it affect the final recount of the vote? If yes ang conclusion is mas maraming pasaway o tangang voters si Leni.As I was saying, yung mga tanga, konti lang. Yung mga pasaway, walang logical reason to waste their vote by undershading, so malamang konti lang din ang mga pasaway ng mag-undershade ng boto sa balota. If there were significant number of undershaded votes for Robredo, and considering that extremely few would undershade due to ignorance or immaturity, then the conclusion would be those votes were prepared somewhere else and were done haphazardly. You'd suspect cheating. 1 Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Insignificant man o hindi yun bilang ng mga so-called tanga o pasaway, it's still a vote that was cast. Sus. Naghahanap talaga ng excuse para mag bawas ng boto. For all we know kaya well-shaded yun votes dyan nun isa dyan kasi gawa ng mga professional flying/ghost/illegal voters at ayaw nila masayang yun votes nila. Quote Link to comment
juan t Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Just to add - For fairness and equality, the undershaded votes for BBM in areas where leni got zero votes should also be deducted. That should also negate the debate of whether undershading was done through cheating or not. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I know leni has a counterprotest of her own... Once bbm's protest have been resolved and ruled in his favor i won't be surprise if leni's camp will have the same petition as to undershaded votes for bbm. If that happens sana lang walang matapyas na boto kay bbm kundi basag ang mga palusot nila kasi diba sa kanila nanggaling pandaraya ang undershading? i am pretty sure may bagong palusot na naman ang mga yan Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 As I was saying, yung mga tanga, konti lang. Yung mga pasaway, walang logical reason to waste their vote by undershading, so malamang konti lang din ang mga pasaway ng mag-undershade ng boto sa balota. If there were significant number of undershaded votes for Robredo, and considering that extremely few would undershade due to ignorance or immaturity, then the conclusion would be those votes were prepared somewhere else and were done haphazardly. You'd suspect cheating. Insignificant man o hindi yun bilang ng mga so-called tanga o pasaway, it's still a vote that was cast. Sus. Naghahanap talaga ng excuse para mag bawas ng boto. For all we know kaya well-shaded yun votes dyan nun isa dyan kasi gawa ng mga professional flying/ghost/illegal voters at ayaw nila masayang yun votes nila. Ano bang excuse and sinasabi mo? If the under shaded votes turns out to be insignificant in number, then we can safely say that instances of under-shading are due to normal occurrence of ignorance (di sinasadya, tanga lang) or immaturity (being pasaway). Yan din naman ang premise ng Comelec when they designed the ballot form. But if there were statistically significant number of under-shaded votes, suspicion of cheating is valid. Not only should the votes be invalidated, Robredo should be investigated for poll fraud. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Hypothetical question sa issue ng undershading... Since ang main issue ninyo is suspicion of cheating, what if iharap yun mga botante na nag undershade at sibstantial ang umamin na sila nga ay bumoto at si leni ang kanilang binoto. Kung kayo lawyer ni marcos considering hindi naman pala nandaya at ang intent is to vote for Leni are you willing na ibalik yun mga botong yan sa kanya? Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Ano bang excuse and sinasabi mo? If the under shaded votes turns out to be insignificant in number, then we can safely say that instances of under-shading are due to normal occurrence of ignorance (di sinasadya, tanga lang) or immaturity (being pasaway). Yan din naman ang premise ng Comelec when they designed the ballot form. But if there were statistically significant number of under-shaded votes, suspicion of cheating is valid. Not only should the votes be invalidated, Robredo should be investigated for poll fraud. Ano ang threshold mo ng significant number ba? Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) Ano ang threshold mo ng significant number ba?I assume you have taken Statistics in one of your Math subjects. You should know. If not, you can Google what is considered statistically significant. Edited May 17, 2018 by camiar Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) Hindi mo siguro ma gets bakit ang tawag sa kanila “pasaway”? Self explanatory na nga, eh.Haha! You obviously didn't understand the question. Read it again. When you answer it logically, then I will tell you. Edited May 17, 2018 by will robie Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) do you even know the meaning of pasaway? google it up then come back to me.Just as I suspected. HIndi masagot ang simple kong tanong. But then again, my question can only be answered by a level-headed person who knows what he is talking about. may pagkakaiba ba yan sa addict? a drug addict have only one life, they know drugs will be harmfull to them, now tell me why would an one risk wasting his life by using drugs when it says drugs can k*ll you. wag na drugs, yosi na lang...may warning na at nakakatakot na pic sa kaha ng yosi and yet bakit tinatangkilik pa rin ito, why do people still smoke? remember dun sa pinagpipilitan mo, boto lang nila masasayang eto sarili nilang buhay. ano ang mas importante boto o buhay? logic kamo di ba? ayan sinagot na kita ..sige explain ka naman ngayon. Another vacuous analogy. Where are your thinking caps? Hindi nabibili yun ha. tama... wala akong pakialam kung anu man ang maging desisyon o kalalabasan ng desisyon ng PET sa protesta. tulad ng sinabi/pinaliwanag ko dati will i be directly affected by it? ako ba si bbm o leni to be directly affected by it? mga miron lang naman tayo sa laban nila. ang proproblemahin ko yun boto ko. yun kung paano bumoto ang iba di ko kontrolado yan pati na rin kung may mga gumawa ba ng kababalaghan kung sino mang kampo yan. pero nasa PET ang desisyon and as i said at the end of the day i may or may not agree with the PET decision but need to accept it.Yes, you will. Buti alam mo. Edited May 17, 2018 by will robie Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) pero may sinabi ba na di ako makikisali sa mga talakayang ukol dito? sinabi ko bang wala akong pakialam sa nga post na di ko sinasangayunan tulad nun iyo? most specially yun mga bias conclusion, may sinabi ba akong hindi ako magrereact sa mga ito? sige nga please show me ... kung wala tahimik na lang wag na magpalusot at magpaikot ha at kung saan saan na naman mapupunta usapan. higit sa lahat PET ka ba na siyang inatasang manuri ng mga ebidensiya at magdesisyo sa protesta? if you are then ill shut the f#&k up kung anu man sabihin mo...Ang drama mo. Just answer my question. But then again, why am I even asking you to answer a question that only a level-headed person could answer. Again, hindi nabibili ang thinking caps ha. matanong lang din kita ...halimbawa lang na nagdesisyon na PET at si Leni ang nanalo, ano gagawin mo? pupunta ka ba sa kalsada para magprotesta? magfa-file ka ba ng protesta o MR sa desisyon ng PET? paano ka maiinvolve sa naging desisyon? mahina kasi.well cant blame him ... i specifically asked him to be my guest if he wanna play dumb. didnt know he wanted to be sooooo good at it and took it to his heart to really be one.Mahilig ka magtanong pero hindi ka marunong sumagot ng tanong. Naghahanap ka pa ng kadamay dahil supalpal ka naman. Projecting won't do you any good. Edited May 17, 2018 by will robie Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Just as I suspected. HIndi masagot ang simple kong tanong. But then again, my question can only be answered by a level-headed person who knows what he is talking about. Another vacuous analogy. Where are your thinking caps? Hindi nabibili yun ha. Yes, you will. Buti alam mo. full of crap ... may maihirit lang Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Haha! You obviously didn't understand the question. Read it again. When you answer it logically, then I will tell you. Yeah... admittedly ang hirap intindihin ng train of thought ng fanatic eh. Basta alam ko self explanatory yun term na pasaway, kaya di na dapat kinu kwestyon kung bakit illogical yun decision nila. Quote Link to comment
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