Poll: Bongbong Marcos Vs Leni Robredo

[bluepanther]

why i will not vote for leny?

1. she will be overrun by people who will sit beside her... (de lima, trillanes, etc) - same scenario with cory aquino

2. she said "lugaw lang ang puhunan nila last election" do you believed that? someone is already betting on her name for the next election

3. same with Cory and Noynoy's administration, she will be focused on blaming this and blaming that, don't believe me? eh from the start yan na ang trabaho ng yellow, lalo na pag dumikit na si trillanes... same old yellow banana... hindi pa nga presidente tinira na agad si BBM

4. doesn't know how to properly answer questions directly, paikot ikot lang hanggang magkanda mali mali na

5. CIA is working behind her... proof? why did Ressa got her nobel prize? napaka babaw ngreason... media is still very much alive in this country... we still have freedom of speech like this... in short, they (US) wanted to project a credible ressa in dealing with Duterte's administration wherein Digong is with high approval rating...

6. bakit si BBM lang tirada nila dilaw/pink? did leny hear bad things from bbm? siguro sa mga loyalist lang

[male_scort4hire]

Si  BBM Parin malakas ngayon sa kalye serye, sa oists.com naka tally lahat halos ng result kaya bago maniwala sa SWS at pulse Asia and ect na sobrang bias 

[Anonymous]

18 hours ago, bluepanther said:

why i will not vote for leny?

1. she will be overrun by people who will sit beside her... (de lima, trillanes, etc) - same scenario with cory aquino

2. she said "lugaw lang ang puhunan nila last election" do you believed that? someone is already betting on her name for the next election

3. same with Cory and Noynoy's administration, she will be focused on blaming this and blaming that, don't believe me? eh from the start yan na ang trabaho ng yellow, lalo na pag dumikit na si trillanes... same old yellow banana... hindi pa nga presidente tinira na agad si BBM

4. doesn't know how to properly answer questions directly, paikot ikot lang hanggang magkanda mali mali na

5. CIA is working behind her... proof? why did Ressa got her nobel prize? napaka babaw ngreason... media is still very much alive in this country... we still have freedom of speech like this... in short, they (US) wanted to project a credible ressa in dealing with Duterte's administration wherein Digong is with high approval rating...

6. bakit si BBM lang tirada nila dilaw/pink? did leny hear bad things from bbm? siguro sa mga loyalist lang

Ressa does not have the common touch. People whose vote count probably ignore her.  We just need to brace for another Revolution or attempt by these colored party to confuse democracy as the will of the outspoken.  

Those who love their country should start wondering about the case of Jesse. Despite the smoking gun if a story, the coverup is frighteningly too strong as if we are living in a totalitarian state.  Why was he not qualified for the job? If he is innocent why was he purged? Such purges are routine in socialist countries. 

All the anger and the insults we hear on this elections are not civil. It is creating a mob cry for change sans elections. I do not think there will be acceptance of the election results. The enemy they perceive is a dictator yet what do they offer in return? Another type of dictatorship - socialism or one party rule.

[Mark-69]

I'll give my Vote to Mr. Ferdinand "Bong Bong" Marcos. 

Never heard negative comments to his opponents not like other candidates especially PACQUIAO talk, talk and talk ndi naman nya naiintindihan kung ano sinasabi nya.  

[Skywalker5949]

I can't say that i will vote for BBM, it's too early and i still need to hear the other candidates platform to make a decision. But definitely 100% sure i'm not voting for Leni. why? well because she did not do the 1 thing that a vice president should have done, that is to support a sitting President. Yes she is from the opposition and it is understandable that she will oppose the president. But she was opposing anything and everything. WTF.  All i heard from her is, dismayado ako sa nangyayari, hindi ako kontento sa mga ginagawa ng gobyerno. When Gloria arroyo was VP, i never heard her complain about what ERAP was doing, she just did her job as DSWD secretary.

[camiar]

6 hours ago, Guest Anonymous said:

Ressa does not have the common touch. People whose vote count probably ignore her.  We just need to brace for another Revolution or attempt by these colored party to confuse democracy as the will of the outspoken.  

Those who love their country should start wondering about the case of Jesse. Despite the smoking gun if a story, the coverup is frighteningly too strong as if we are living in a totalitarian state.  Why was he not qualified for the job? If he is innocent why was he purged? Such purges are routine in socialist countries. 

All the anger and the insults we hear on this elections are not civil. It is creating a mob cry for change sans elections. I do not think there will be acceptance of the election results. The enemy they perceive is a dictator yet what do they offer in return? Another type of dictatorship - socialism or one party rule.

There's an on-line petition to nullify Ressa's Nobel Peace Prize award.

https://philnews.ph/2021/10/26/netizens-launch-petition-to-nullify-nobel-peace-prize-of-maria-ressa/

 

Edited November 3, 2021 by camiar

[titodadi]

BBM... Among the candidates siya lang yung nakitaan ko ng maayos na pagsagot sa mga issues. Of course wala sa mainstream media! Nasa tiktok nasa youtube. Buhay na ako ng panahon ng martial law. Aminin natin galit sa mga Marcoses ang mga taong may mahal sa buhay o kaibigan na nasaktan o nasawi ng panahon ng martial rule. Nasa working class ang family ko and masabi ko lahat law abiding citizen at hindi naging hindrance ang martial law sa kanila. Dapat alam natin kung bakit itinaas ang martial law. inabutan ko pa mga kabataan na mas matanda sa akin that time na nagsusunog ng gulong sa kalye nanghaharang ng mga sasakyan may nakakakbit na headband na may laban. nag vandalise. mga kabataan na napaniwala sa maling laban. hindi nyo ba napuna na after mapatalsik si marcos nagsulputan na ang mga pangalan ng NPA na nakilala even sa NCR. Lumakas ang sparrow unit na nag ambush sa mga pulis at businessman. Tama naman si MDS ang kasalanan ng ama hindi dapat kasalanan ng anak. And kung sakali man manalo si BBM isa sigurado sa layunin niya na linisin ang pangalan nila na sobrang binaboy ng Liberal party. 

[overman]

ano ba ang qualification ni BBM to become the president?

[bluepanther]

16 hours ago, overman said:

ano ba ang qualification ni BBM to become the president?

filipino born citizen

marunong sumagot sa mga interview, hindi magalaw ang mga mata pag sumasagot at hindi din nag papa cute

more than 40 years of age

hindi naninira ng ibang tao, dahil lamang ayaw nyang manalo ang kalaban

knows how to run a government (LGU)

may plataporma - hindi gagamitin ang media para sabihin na ganito dapat ang gawin nyo ganire yan, he gave request not advice

[camiar]

4 hours ago, bluepanther said:

filipino born citizen

marunong sumagot sa mga interview, hindi magalaw ang mga mata pag sumasagot at hindi din nag papa cute

more than 40 years of age

hindi naninira ng ibang tao, dahil lamang ayaw nyang manalo ang kalaban

knows how to run a government (LGU)

may plataporma - hindi gagamitin ang media para sabihin na ganito dapat ang gawin nyo ganire yan, he gave request not advice

Eto naman ang comparison on how they articulate their advocacies:

 

Edited November 5, 2021 by camiar

[Vince3]

On 10/25/2021 at 10:22 PM, camiar said:

They claim that Marcos stole up to US$ 30 billion.

That's Php 1.53 TRILLION peso equivalent.

The anti-Marcos Government had 35 years to recover that alleged stolen wealth. Yet they only managed to find a bloated figure of Php 174 Billion, just a fraction of what they claim Marcos stole.

What does that tell you? Either the anti-Marcos government was so inept and incompetent that they recovered just small a fraction of what they claim, or the claim of stolen wealth is just one big hoax.

 

They have actually addressed or mentioned the difficulty of attaining these ill gotten wealth from the very beginning. It has been documented in the proceedings way back from 1990s. One of the main difficulty is doing the investigation within multiple boundaries of various international laws.

Isn't it not surprising that they do have that amount of money, the claimed P1.53 Trillion pesos from the blatant lifestyle that Imelda has been known to show-off. At the very least, you do agree that they may have this amount of money? This is just my honest personal view. It is more believable for me that the government are inept or having difficulties in taking this money. In contrast to, the Marcos' having all these wealth because they simply are rich to begin with?

 

Do you believe in their claim of having gold investments?. Again, there are various evidences that this is not true. There are no concrete evidence that these are true however. I can't even believe that people take Marcos' word for it. I have done my personal research on it and honestly, I could not find a reliable source to prove that this is true. I'll be more than willing to read it if you can share evidences of the Marcos' legitimate wealth.

All the rich family are publicly known for why they are rich. They have their businesses etcetera. Then marcos' says they are rich because of gold investment? I may believe that they are rich but not Billions of dollars rich without any empire.

[plug]

Said to be may "mining" industries.

[camiar]

On 11/7/2021 at 1:13 AM, Vince3 said:

They have actually addressed or mentioned the difficulty of attaining these ill gotten wealth from the very beginning. It has been documented in the proceedings way back from 1990s. One of the main difficulty is doing the investigation within multiple boundaries of various international laws.

Isn't it not surprising that they do have that amount of money, the claimed P1.53 Trillion pesos from the blatant lifestyle that Imelda has been known to show-off. At the very least, you do agree that they may have this amount of money? This is just my honest personal view. It is more believable for me that the government are inept or having difficulties in taking this money. In contrast to, the Marcos' having all these wealth because they simply are rich to begin with?

 

Do you believe in their claim of having gold investments?. Again, there are various evidences that this is not true. There are no concrete evidence that these are true however. I can't even believe that people take Marcos' word for it. I have done my personal research on it and honestly, I could not find a reliable source to prove that this is true. I'll be more than willing to read it if you can share evidences of the Marcos' legitimate wealth.

All the rich family are publicly known for why they are rich. They have their businesses etcetera. Then marcos' says they are rich because of gold investment? I may believe that they are rich but not Billions of dollars rich without any empire.

First of all, I did not, and do not, agree they they have the money that they are allegedly stole from government funds.

There is no evidence that they stole from the people's tax money nor from government assets.

I agree that it is plausible that they have gold. Having insider access to military intelligence right after WW2 when he was appointed as one of the 11 prosecutors to handle the cases of those accused of collaboration with the Japanese, Marcos may have gotten some leads about Japanese gold loot. He doesn't have to be a treasure hunter himself. He can just be the buyer of any gold found by the hunters, who, needing money to continue their hunt, have to sell part of their finds at a fraction of their true  market value. Marcos could have taken advantage of that to buy gold cheaply. He also worked with Benguet Mining even before WW2, after graduating cum laude at UP Law and topping his BAR exams. This could have been a deliberate career path -- to be close to where the gold is. There were rumors that some of Marcos gold cache were from Benguet Mining. Note, Benguet Mining is a private company.

Financial Analysts believe that Marcos expanded his investments through his circle of relatives, friends, and business associates, like Ongpin in mining, Eduardo Cojuangco in coconuts, Roberto S. Benedicto in sugar, Herminio Disini in tobacco and construction industry, and Antonio O. Floirendo in bananas, who in-turn have their corresponding lieutenants of professional executives managing the network of businesses. You will not find the identities of these corporations and whatever happened to them after the 1986 revolution. No, not from the oligarch-controlled Philippine mainstream media. Suffice it to say that the victors became the new owners of these huge network of corporations and investments without the Filipino people knowing about it --- and many of whom, up to now, still believe the propaganda that Marcos is still hiding it.

[Harding]

On 11/3/2021 at 5:07 PM, camiar said:

There's an on-line petition to nullify Ressa's Nobel Peace Prize award.

https://philnews.ph/2021/10/26/netizens-launch-petition-to-nullify-nobel-peace-prize-of-maria-ressa/

 

haha that is a big joke especially if coming from pinoys

[Harding]

On 11/8/2021 at 10:22 AM, camiar said:

First of all, I did not, and do not, agree they they have the money that they are allegedly stole from government funds.

There is no evidence that they stole from the people's tax money nor from government assets.

I agree that it is plausible that they have gold. Having insider access to military intelligence right after WW2 when he was appointed as one of the 11 prosecutors to handle the cases of those accused of collaboration with the Japanese, Marcos may have gotten some leads about Japanese gold loot. He doesn't have to be a treasure hunter himself. He can just be the buyer of any gold found by the hunters, who, needing money to continue their hunt, have to sell part of their finds at a fraction of their true  market value. Marcos could have taken advantage of that to buy gold cheaply. He also worked with Benguet Mining even before WW2, after graduating cum laude at UP Law and topping his BAR exams. This could have been a deliberate career path -- to be close to where the gold is. There were rumors that some of Marcos gold cache were from Benguet Mining. Note, Benguet Mining is a private company.

Financial Analysts believe that Marcos expanded his investments through his circle of relatives, friends, and business associates, like Ongpin in mining, Eduardo Cojuangco in coconuts, Roberto S. Benedicto in sugar, Herminio Disini in tobacco and construction industry, and Antonio O. Floirendo in bananas, who in-turn have their corresponding lieutenants of professional executives managing the network of businesses. You will not find the identities of these corporations and whatever happened to them after the 1986 revolution. No, not from the oligarch-controlled Philippine mainstream media. Suffice it to say that the victors became the new owners of these huge network of corporations and investments without the Filipino people knowing about it --- and many of whom, up to now, still believe the propaganda that Marcos is still hiding it.

if the marcos did not stole the money, why did the swiss banks turnover their bank account amiunting to millions of dollars to the govt including other bank accounts in the world? why did the cronies surrender to the govt several properties and bank account too.

[Harding]

On 11/5/2021 at 12:25 PM, camiar said:

Eto naman ang comparison on how they articulate their advocacies:

 

sino ba nakatapos ng college at sino na kick out sa college? dun lang makikita mo na ang big difference

[camiar]

On 11/3/2021 at 5:07 PM, camiar said:

There's an on-line petition to nullify Ressa's Nobel Peace Prize award.

https://philnews.ph/2021/10/26/netizens-launch-petition-to-nullify-nobel-peace-prize-of-maria-ressa/

 

 

14 hours ago, Harding said:

haha that is a big joke especially if coming from pinoys

Indeed! The petitioners are Filipinos. They disagree with the basis by which Maria Ressa was considered a Nobel awardee.

[camiar]

14 hours ago, Harding said:

sino ba nakatapos ng college at sino na kick out sa college? dun lang makikita mo na ang big difference

Eh sino ba? 

[IamGrumpy]

Records show that BBM did attend Oxford and Wharton but did NOT graduate or finish his studies from both universities. The special diploma awarded to him in Oxford is like an attendance sheet.  The Wharton MBA program is also DNF (did not finish). What he listed in his resume is “graduate coursework” meaning he finished some subjects required for the degree but did not take or passed all the required subjects to finish the MBA degree.

So there you have it.

Edited December 5, 2021 by IamGrumpy
Grammar

[Conotoj]

"Conducted in late Nov 2021, this survey was commissioned by the US-based Pew Research to its longtime PH in-country partner Laylo Research Strategies. At the national level, BBM leads by 82% leaving all the other aspirants breathlessly in the dust. The survey result is embargoed by Pew and the US government for it will seriously undermine US geopolitical interest in the Philippines. Fortunately or unfortunately, the staff of US government asset Emily Abrera was careless enough to leak it. "

 

[IamGrumpy]

Surveys are just surveys. Remember what happened in the last presidential elections? Duterte wasn’t even mentioned as a contender and it was Grace Poe leading in all surveys. 

Edited December 5, 2021 by IamGrumpy

[camiar]

On 12/5/2021 at 11:16 AM, Conotoj said:

"Conducted in late Nov 2021, this survey was commissioned by the US-based Pew Research to its longtime PH in-country partner Laylo Research Strategies. At the national level, BBM leads by 82% leaving all the other aspirants breathlessly in the dust. The survey result is embargoed by Pew and the US government for it will seriously undermine US geopolitical interest in the Philippines. Fortunately or unfortunately, the staff of US government asset Emily Abrera was careless enough to leak it. "

 

 

On 12/5/2021 at 12:49 PM, IamGrumpy said:

Surveys are just surveys. Remember what happened in the last presidential elections? Duterte wasn’t even mentioned as a contender and it was Grace Poe leading in all surveys. 

None of the 2016 Presidential aspirants had more than 30% preference 3 months before the election.

Duterte rallied his support and won with 33%. Logistically, a few percentage win margin is possible especially if you have a well-organized campaign team.

But if the top candidate has 82% preference, as the Nov 2021 Laylo survey reported, it's game over.

Edited December 7, 2021 by camiar

[IamGrumpy]

3 hours ago, camiar said:

 

None of the 2016 Presidential aspirants had more than 30% preference 3 months before the election.

Duterte rallied his support and won with 33%. Logistically, a few percentage win margin is possible especially if you have a well-organized campaign team.

But if the top candidate has 82% preference, as the Nov 2021 Laylo survey reported, it's game over.

I agree with your numbers on Duterte survey results during the pre election of 2016 but lets wait and see till after the 2022 election is over while drinking 🍺.  There are always surprises along the way. Cheers!

[heymanjack]

On 11/3/2021 at 2:50 PM, Skywalker5949 said:

I can't say that i will vote for BBM, it's too early and i still need to hear the other candidates platform to make a decision. But definitely 100% sure i'm not voting for Leni. why? well because she did not do the 1 thing that a vice president should have done, that is to support a sitting President. Yes she is from the opposition and it is understandable that she will oppose the president. But she was opposing anything and everything. WTF.  All i heard from her is, dismayado ako sa nangyayari, hindi ako kontento sa mga ginagawa ng gobyerno. When Gloria arroyo was VP, i never heard her complain about what ERAP was doing, she just did her job as DSWD secretary.

You are an idiot.

[Jason Nard]

Dark as may it seems, the only way Liberal Party can win this Presidential Race is to create havoc that can be associated with Marcos. They can.... and they might.... play gambit and scarifies the QUEEN instead of the pawns.