Duterte's Presidency : Expectations, Controversies, Rants, Etc.

[rooster69ph]

Refer to dictionary ... synonym ng factual eh truthful, true, accurate etc. So anong magulo dun?

 

Kung di alam kung totoo o hindi sinasabi then bakit sa panigin ng dutertards guilty na si de5...na involve nga siya.

 

On the other hand hindi rin masiguro kung totoo o hindi pinagsasabi ni taguba pero dutertards thinks polong is innocent or doesn't have illegal activities.

 

Yun lang yun ...

 

 

Going back to de5 ... may chance na ba un panig niya pasinungalingan un sinasabi ng testigo? Na bigyan ba ng pagkakataon to be grilled o cross examined by the de5 camp? kahit isang libong katao pa yan na magcolaborate iIsang side pa lang napakinggan mo may conclusion ka na? Galing .... patas na patas nga

[rooster69ph]

Wala na ba iba dahilan sa kapalpakan ng bayan kundi yellow at dilawan? Pwede bang si Duterte naman kc sya na ang presidente? Just saying.

Ganyan ka hipokrito mga idiotertards....para sa kanila natigil ang ikot ng mundo nun nanalo at nanumpa bilang pangulo si Gigong. Kaya naman ang tanging naalala lang nila ay ang pagasang magkakaroon ng pagbabago batay sa mga pinangako at lahat ng kapalpakan ng nakaraang administrasyon. Kaya naman sa kasalukuyan sa dilawan pa rin ang sisi.

 

Pati mga ejk ng kabataan sinasabotahe daw kasi ng dilawan eh sino pang panay sigaw na papatayin ko kayo mga user at pusher. Hindi ba nun umpisa nagkakaisa pa ang kapulisan na ipagtanggol ang mga sangkot na pulis dahil legit operation daw at nanlaban. Ayun nun napaghahalataan na may cover up dahil sa mga ebidensiya ayun sinasabotahe daw ang war on drugs. Mga isa't kalahati kung magisip ng palusot dahil nabubutasan na sila.

 

Yun nakalusot na bilyong halaga ng shabu ano kasalanan pa rin ng dilawan? Well malas lang siguro at wala pang mahanap na link sa dilaw kaya ang banat lang s ngayon isa itong paninira lamang ng dilawan. Naku naman admin ng idol ninyo ang nalusutan, ni wala ngang pinaiimbestigahan kung sino nagkulang at nagkasala. Paulit-ulit pa ang pagsabing patuloy pa rin nagtitiwala sa kakayanan ni Faeldon ang presidente matapos lumabas yun issue. At ngayon si Polong ang nababanatan na may kinalaman sa droga at inakusahan miyembro ng triad at may tatoo daw na magpapatunaw dito hay naku daming satsat imbes na ipakita nang mapasinungalingan na lang but ofcourse idiotertards are there to defend to the max.

 

Bilang resbak ...to the rescue si tatang. Ayun maglalabas daw siya mga bank accounts ni troliling. Kaso iba inutusan maglabas...playing safe ba? Well, naglabas ng waiver si troliling, tameme idiotertards kaya minamaliit yun pagissue ng waiver. Hoy yun pamilya ng idol ninyo di nga makapagissue ng waiver.

 

Just saying lang din....

[camiar]

Hindi po ako dilawan or die hard supporter, but this kind of fanatiscm towards a politician seems to be a phenomenon. Mali na, Tama pa din.

It happened when Cory was president. It happened when Abnoy was president.

Did not happen to Erap, FVR, and GMA.

 

Cory & Abnoy were oligarch-created and supported. Oligarch propaganda media, like Inquirer & ABS-CBN, practically made Cory a saint who saved us from Marcos, and Abnoy the messiah who would have liberated us up from past governments' corruption. The people worshipped the idol image given to them by the oligarchs' media.

 

That's not a phenomena.

 

It is what they now call "Perception Engineering"

 

This is done by releasing or withholding selected "news" information the public to influence their emotions, motives, and objective reasoning as well as to various organizations' leaders at all levels to influence their situational analysis and action plans, ultimately resulting in behaviors and actions favorable to the oligarchs' objectives.

Perception Engineering combines propaganda, cover-ups, misinformation, and barrages of paid-media opinion.

Edited September 17, 2017 by camiar

[rooster69ph]

Before: perception engineering

 

Now: fake news

 

#changescaming

[camiar]

Before: perception engineering

 

Now: fake news

 

#changescaming

Fake news is just part of perception engineering. Part of misinformation as well as psychological warfare.

 

In the past, the oligarchs control the perceptions of the masses because tri-media news broadcasting is very expensive and beyond the reach of ordinary folks.

 

Now, the internet is the great equalizer. An army of independent cause-oriented bloggers can launch internet and cellphone-based counter-propaganda against giant oligarch yellow media like Inquirer and ABS-CBN, and beat them at their own game.

 

Yes. Change has come. And your oligarch benefactors' times are numbered.

Edited September 17, 2017 by camiar

[camiar]

Before Eleksyon: kasalanan ng Dilaw

After Eleksyon : kasalanan pa din ng Dilaw

 

Aba Matindi.

Totoo yan.

 

Matindi talaga.

 

The incompetence of the past administration was really mind boggling. It's really beyond me.

 

The latest incompetence now becoming apparent : the MRT train coaches that Abaya ordered from Dalian turns our to be 3,000 tons too heavy for the existing tracks! ... and they have been covering that up since the the train coaches arrived and more defects are now being discovered and being disclosed to the public only now.

 

Jarius Bondoc of Philippine Star wrote:

 

"...In breach of contract, the units arrived late, defective, without basic signaling, and untested for 5,000 km. More defects are being discovered only now:...

 

...Shabby contracts to which Manalo et al had locked in the DOTr are tough to untangle...

 

...With no quick fixes in sight, half-a-million daily MRT-3 riders will continue to suffer train shortages, rough rides, long queues, and frequent breakdowns of the old units.

 

...Manalo et al shouldn’t have tapped Dalian to begin with; it had no track record making motorized light railcars, only engineless heavy ones pulled by locomotives...

 

​...The Dalian coaches were brokered by ruling Liberal Party-mates Abaya, predecessor Mar Roxas, and then-President Noynoy Aquino. The LP men also were behind the sloppy MRT-3 maintenance since 2012. The present deal, a separate P3.8 billion for 2016-2019, is with inexperienced, undercapitalized Busan Universal Rail Inc."

 

http://www.philstar.com/opinion/2017/07/28/1722110/overweight-dalian-trains-will-crush-mrt-3-tracks

Edited September 17, 2017 by camiar

[jopoc]

It happened when Cory was president. It happened when Abnoy was president.

Did not happen to Erap, FVR, and GMA.

 

Cory & Abnoy were oligarch-created and supported. Oligarch propaganda media, like Inquirer & ABS-CBN, practically made Cory a saint who saved us from Marcos, and Abnoy the messiah who would have liberated us up from past governments' corruption. The people worshipped the idol image given to them by the oligarchs' media.

 

That's not a phenomena.

 

It is what they now call "Perception Engineering"

 

This is done by releasing or withholding selected "news" information the public to influence their emotions, motives, and objective reasoning as well as to various organizations' leaders at all levels to influence their situational analysis and action plans, ultimately resulting in behaviors and actions favorable to the oligarchs' objectives.

Perception Engineering combines propaganda, cover-ups, misinformation, and barrages of paid-media opinion.

 

 

this kind of thing happens in the whole world... even in america.... there are some biases in certain big media outfits..... like fox is for trump, cnn is anti-trump.....facts of life yan.... like mocha will always be biased for duterte.....

 

 

stop complaining about biases because that cannot be changed..... the thing is there are alternatives.... like the government channels during the time of erap, fvr and GMA...... there are also neutral news like the manila bulletin..... now we have fake news expert mocha, the blundering PNA, tulfo, and even PTV 4 that are obviously biased in favor of the government..... may choices naman so go ahead watch PTV 4 the whole day if it you want to hear pro-duterte news all day, nobody is forcing you to watch abs-cbn and GMA, right?........

 

so stop whining on biased media.

[camiar]

 

 

this kind of thing happens in the whole world... even in america.... there are some biases in certain big media outfits..... like fox is for trump, cnn is anti-trump.....facts of life yan.... like mocha will always be biased for duterte.....

 

 

stop complaining about biases because that cannot be changed..... the thing is there are alternatives.... like the government channels during the time of erap, fvr and GMA...... there are also neutral news like the manila bulletin..... now we have fake news expert mocha, the blundering PNA, tulfo, and even PTV 4 that are obviously biased in favor of the government..... may choices naman so go ahead watch PTV 4 the whole day if it you want to hear pro-duterte news all day, nobody is forcing you to watch abs-cbn and GMA, right?........

 

so stop whining on biased media.

 

Atty, I'm not whining. I'm fighting back in my own way by telling people like you how it really is.

 

In the US, big networks like Fox, CBN, CNN, have their own biases but they are counterbalanced by equally large networks with opposing interests.

 

In the Philippines, it is only the oligarch-controlled big media networks. Others like PTV 4, are too small to counter the massive propaganda and misinformation of oligarch yellow media. This is why Binay was successfully vilified in public by the big media -- and he can't turn to anybody to help him counter the character demolition campaign against him.

 

So, do I see now that you've given up and is slowly becoming one of the yellow trolls in this forum?

[jopoc]

 

Atty, I'm not whining. I'm fighting back in my own way by telling people like you how it really is.

 

In the US, big networks like Fox, CBN, CNN, have their own biases but they are counterbalanced by equally large networks with opposing interests.

 

In the Philippines, it is only the oligarch-controlled big media networks. Others like PTV 4, are too small to counter the massive propaganda and misinformation of oligarch yellow media. This is why Binay was successfully vilified in public by the big media -- and he can't turn to anybody to help him counter the character demolition campaign against him.

 

So, do I see now that you've given up and is slowly becoming one of the yellow trolls in this forum?

 

 

 

i agree with you that the oligarch-controlled big media have the advantage... but can we not accept that as a fact of life? ganyan talaga ang buhay.... kahit sino pa ilagay mo dyan sa pwesto and it will always be the same.... so accept this. fighting back will really get you nowhere.... kung sina GMA at Erap nga hindi nanalo, tayo pa kaya?

 

like i said, digong has his own counter to this, and i applaud it.... he has mocha, andanar sassot etc to fight these big media.... and so far it is working.....even if they result to fake news sometimes.

 

pero ganun pa rin, walang irereport na kapalpakan ang big medias kung walang kapalpakang ginagawa si digong (same on binay and everybody else)... so stop whining on biased media because all media (from ABS to GMA to Mocha to PNA to PTV) have its own bias..... do things right para walang masamang mareport....

Edited September 18, 2017 by jopoc

[daphne loves derby]

Trillanes' supposed Singapore bank account 'does not exist'

http://www.philstar.com:8080/headlines/2017/09/19/1740663/trillanes-supposed-singapore-bank-account-does-not-exist

 

MANILA, Philippines — Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV was in Singapore on Tuesday to disprove claims by President Rodrigo Duterte and the president's supporters that he has money hidden in banks there.

According to a report on Interaksyon, the DBS Bank branch at the Alexandra Retail Center in Singapore refused to issue a certification that he does not have an account there because he is a non-client.

A teller at the branch, however, said that Account No. 178000296012 does not exist. Duterte said last week that the senator has a bank account at DBS with that account number and that the account had "193,000" of some unspecified currency.

The president also said Trillanes has $75,000 or P3,801,385.05 in a bank account numbered 927519921320 in Zurich.

"A closer look at his bank account documents in Zurich and Singapore reveals the name Antonio F. Trillanes," Duterte, who has in the past made claims that were inconsistent with actual data, said.

READ: President Duterte gives details about alleged Trillanes wealth

News5's Mae Anne Los Baños also reported on Interaksyon that Trillanes then went to Raffles Tower to look for Hongkong Shanghai Bank, where he is said to have SGD 278,300 in a joint account with a certain Robert Fong. There was no such bank there.

Trillanes also went to a mall on Raffles Boulevard but only found an ATM, not a bank branch there.

The senator, who has been critical of Duterte even during the 2016 election campaign, signed bank secrecy waivers last week to allow scrutiny of bank accounts he has been accused of having and that he denies having.

The signing of the waivers was preceded by information on his 12 alleged bank accounts circulating on the internet through the page of broadcast journalist Erwin Tulfo, the blog of Assistant Secretary Mocha Uson and the Davao Breaking News website.

READ: Duterte still refuses to sign bank waiver, but admits co-owning bank account with Sara

Bank waivers were issued for all these accounts, according to Trillanes, paving the way for scrutiny by the Anti-Money Laundering Council and the Office of the Ombudsman.

"Lahat nung mga binigay na accounts na nakuha natin dito sa mga sources na ito ay gumawa ako ng tig-iisang waiver. Pinirmahan ko ito duly notarized at received by the Anti-Money Laundering Council at yung sa Ombudsman nandun na rin," he said.

Edited September 19, 2017 by daphne loves derby

[rooster69ph]

Bilib na bilib talaga ako sa galing ng mga dutertards .... Galing magpalusot ng mga idiots.

[DarkPill]

Majority ng Pilipinong reklamador ay nakatira sa Luzon. Hindi pa din maka move on sa pagkapanalo ni Duterte.

[jopoc]

mukhang apekted na utak......

 

 

 

Duterte: I ‘invented’ bank account number of Trillanes

By: Nestor Corrales - Reporter / @NCorralesINQ

INQUIRER.net / 09:27 PM September 19, 2017

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President Rodrigo Duterte guests for the second time in Erwin Tulfo’s program, “Sa Totoo Lang,” aired live on Tuesday, Sept. 19, 2017, over the People’s Television Network (PTV). (Photo from an RTVM video)

President Rodrigo Duterte on Tuesday night admitted he invented the number of the bank account that he had accused Sen. Antonio Trillanes IV of having in Singapore – which allegedly contained millions.

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Duterte said the bank account number of Trillanes, which he earlier revealed, was merely a “product of his mind.”

The bank account number he read in televised speech last Sept. 15 was 178000296012.

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“Trillanes, ganito ‘yan: Ang actual account number from Mocha and Erwin is 1178000281602. Binasa ko. Binawasan ko ng number. Wala ito imbento lang,” he said in an interview televised over state-run PTV4.

He was referring to Presidential Communications Assistant Secretary Mocha Uson and broadcaster Erwin Tulfo.

“Wala ito. Produkto ng isip ko ito. Tinanggalan ko talaga. Ginamit mo. Nag-issue ka ng waiver… Iba ang account number, iba ang totoo,” Duterte added.

On Tuesday, Trillanes went to DBS Bank Alexandra Road branch in in Singapore and presented his Senate ID, passport, and a printout of the document being circulated on social media detailing his alleged DBS account with both account numbers – 178000296012 and 1178000281602.

The bank teller of DBS told Trillanes: “No such accounts exists.”

The President said Trillanes was so desperate that he had to go to Singapore.

“Kita mo siya ngayon. He’s desperate. Pumunta ng Singapore, mag-gastos lang para propaganda lang,” Duterte said. /atm

Read more: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/931821/rodrigo-duterte-antonio-trillanes-iv-offshore-bank-accounts#ixzz4t8EcX0ol
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Edited September 19, 2017 by jopoc

[rooster69ph]

galing talaga ni presidente ... Galing magpalusot.

 

We have a situation wherein he now admits inventing accusations .... The highest official of our land making false accusations.

 

Sige mga idiotertards pasok and start defending your idol.

[daphne loves derby]

Du30 is so f#&king stupid.. another one of his many inappropriate actions and decisions..

 

the only silver lining you can see in there is that he is man enough to admit his blunder

[rooster69ph]

Du30 is so f#&king stupid.. another one of his many inappropriate actions and decisions..

 

the only silver lining you can see in there is that he is man enough to admit his blunder

Yeah he is f#&king stupid...too bad some people get to realized that only now.

 

Does he have any other choice but to admit? Ngayon na napatunayan na wala talagang ganung account kahit di siya umamin moot and academic.

 

Imho his machismo wouldn't allow trililing to have the upper hand thus he needs to come up with another twist and admit he did it on purpose just to fool him. Para naman sakyan ng mga tanga at depensahan siya. So pag madaming maniwala yun pautot eh nagiging makatotohanan sa isip ng mga nagpapaniwala.

 

Sige mga idiotertards sakay pa more ... start defending this self confess liar. kung pinaglalaruan lang niya si trililing kaya siya nagsinungaling sa kanya how sure are the idiotertards na hindi kayo pinaglalaruan din for his personal gains/interest?

 

Magisip-isip naman pag may time.

Edited September 20, 2017 by rooster69ph

[daphne loves derby]

a tale of 2 media source

 

EXHIBIT 1: MANILA BULLETIN

 

Duterte fools Trillanes by giving wrong bank account number

http://news.mb.com.ph/2017/09/20/duterte-fools-trillanes-by-giving-wrong-bank-accountnumber/

 

EXHIBIT 2: INQUIRER

 

Duterte: I ‘invented’ bank account number of Trillanes

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/931821/rodrigo-duterte-antonio-trillanes-iv-offshore-bank-accounts?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#link_time=1505827748

[camiar]

Very Entertaining...

 

That's why I've been saying that Duterte's team is better at the game than the oligarch-ass-kissing yellow propagandists..

Edited September 20, 2017 by camiar

[camiar]

Yeah he is f#&king stupid...too bad some people get to realized that only now.

 

Does he have any other choice but to admit? Ngayon na napatunayan na wala talagang ganung account kahit di siya umamin moot and academic.

 

Imho his machismo wouldn't allow trililing to have the upper hand thus he needs to come up with another twist and admit he did it on purpose just to fool him. Para naman sakyan ng mga tanga at depensahan siya. So pag madaming maniwala yun pautot eh nagiging makatotohanan sa isip ng mga nagpapaniwala.

 

Sige mga idiotertards sakay pa more ... start defending this self confess liar. kung pinaglalaruan lang niya si trililing kaya siya nagsinungaling sa kanya how sure are the idiotertards na hindi kayo pinaglalaruan din for his personal gains/interest?

 

Magisip-isip naman pag may time.

 

Trillanes was f#cking owned!!

 

I just wonder... what did he learn during his time in the military? He was lured by a very basic counter-intelligence trick!

 

Tama yung tagline mo:

 

"The trouble with Mr. Sen. Trillanes is that he is driven more by testosterone than by cerebrum..."

[jopoc]

Very Entertaining...

 

That's why I've been saying that Duterte's team is better at the game than the oligarch-ass-kissing yellow propagandists..

 

 

yup

the kind of government under digong.....

[camiar]

 

 

yup

the kind of government under digong.....

Compared to this, Binay's government would have been so boring.

[rooster69ph]

 

Trillanes was f#cking owned!!

 

I just wonder... what did he learn during his time in the military? He was lured by a very basic counter-intelligence trick!

 

Tama yung tagline mo:

 

"The trouble with Mr. Sen. Trillanes is that he is driven more by testosterone than by cerebrum..."

Not a surprising argument from a typical idiotertard.

 

He knew the bluff all along and called the bluff and proved the baseless accusation. And the president just confess he is a f#&king liar ... Simple as that.

Edited September 20, 2017 by rooster69ph

[jopoc]

 

Trillanes was f#cking owned!!

 

I just wonder... what did he learn during his time in the military? He was lured by a very basic counter-intelligence trick!

 

Tama yung tagline mo:

 

"The trouble with Mr. Sen. Trillanes is that he is driven more by testosterone than by cerebrum..."

 

 

yup, he was owned....

 

proved that digong was lying..... proved that we have a liar for a president......

instead of working for the country, our president would rather play games with him....

 

trillanes was owned big time.

 

 

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DDS be like....

 

2 weeks ago: talaga namang may bank account sa SG si Trillnes

1 week ago (after trillanes signs waiver): niloloko tayo ni trillanes, hindi valid waiver nyan

the other day when trillanes arrived in SG: ayan na si trillanes, maglilinis na ng mga bank accounts nya.

yesterday when trillanes got a confirmation that no SG bank account: nakapangalan sa iba kasi

when digong admits, after trillanes proves he was lying, no bank account: Trillanes got owned.

 

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[camiar]

 

 

yup, he was owned....

 

proved that digong was lying..... proved that we have a liar for a president......

instead of working for the country, our president would rather play games with him....

 

trillanes was owned big time.

 

 

======

 

 

DDS be like....

 

2 weeks ago: talaga namang may bank account sa SG si Trillnes

1 week ago (after trillanes signs waiver): niloloko tayo ni trillanes, hindi valid waiver nyan

the other day when trillanes arrived in SG: ayan na si trillanes, maglilinis na ng mga bank accounts nya.

yesterday when trillanes got a confirmation that no SG bank account: nakapangalan sa iba kasi

when digong admits, after trillanes proves he was lying, no bank account: Trillanes got owned.

 

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So, lying was not always a bad thing after all....

 

Trillanes getting owned... priceless!!!

Edited September 20, 2017 by camiar

[jopoc]

So, lying was not always a bad thing after all....

 

Trillanes getting owned... priceless!!!

 

 

yup... you are right there.....

we are now in the age where lying is not a bad thing after all if you will own someone

Edited September 20, 2017 by jopoc