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Duterte's Presidency : Expectations, Controversies, Rants, Etc.


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Ikaw namanpo nagpasok kay binay sa usapan ah i.e. "Ginagawa din dati yan ni Binay". Tsaka di naman natin sinisingle out si Binay. Si Roxas nababangit din natin. Kasi naman kung lahat na lang ng ginagawa ng tao hahanapan mo ng butas, eh di ano na pala? Resign Duterte na lol. Huwag masyado pikon, tagal tagal na natin dito eh.

 

The way I see it kada administrasyon me biktima naman lagi. Biktima ng maling desisyon, at biktima ng hindi pagdedesisyon

 

 

did not know that i struck a nerve when i said nagbibisita din si binay sa mga burol.... something that is TRUE

sorry about that. hindi ko alam na ayaw mong ikumpara si digong kay binay even if i am just stating a fact.

 

 

At least now ang mga narco politicinas na yan guguho na mundo nila. Ilang dekada na malamang ginagawa yan pero hanggang intel reports lang walang action. I expect na mawawala na rin yung mga protector na sasabihing "Bahala ni Mayor (or any other govt. post) dyan".

 

at least..... well yeah

 

but that is beside the point.... it is all about doing the proper police work and coordinating with the courts to avoid innocent people to suffer... pwede naman gawin na walang list list sa media.....

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at least..... well yeah

 

but that is beside the point.... it is all about doing the proper police work and coordinating with the courts to avoid innocent people to suffer... pwede naman gawin na walang list list sa media.....

 

Sa mga protector ng droga, shaming them is the best way to stop his illegal way instantaneously. Basag na pangalan niya para mag prtect pa sa mga drug transactions. Usually kasi ang intel na makukuha is also from criminals within the inner circle or using illegal wire tapping. Kung sa korte pa idadaan we all know na malabo i convict yan. Kasi yang mga drug lords na yan kapag wala nang protector from govt. officials madali nang mahuli mga yan.

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Sa mga protector ng droga, shaming them is the best way to stop his illegal way instantaneously. Basag na pangalan niya para mag prtect pa sa mga drug transactions. Usually kasi ang intel na makukuha is also from criminals within the inner circle or using illegal wire tapping. Kung sa korte pa idadaan we all know na malabo i convict yan. Kasi yang mga drug lords na yan kapag wala nang protector from govt. officials madali nang mahuli mga yan.

 

that sir is what will differentiate Digong from previous pres and other politicians. Kasi kung hindi dahil sa political will niya at iaasa lang sa mga korte korte, wala din syang pinag iba sa mga dati at wala ding masyadong mangyayari sa laban na ito. walang mga mayor/general/VIP na mababasag ang paghahari sa droga.

 

someone has to make drastic change and to make a diff. approach. its not pretty, its messy. sinabi niya yan nung campaign "it will be bloody and messy". And isang buwan pa lang yan - more will come.

 

never in our history na merong identified mayor/general/judge na nalink sa droga ang napangalanan at nakilala ng publiko at eto iniimbestigahan na.

 

isa pa sa mas inaalala ko pa ngayon, after ng term ni Digong, magbabalik fiesta kaya ang mga hinayupak na drug personalities na ito???

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isa pa sa mas inaalala ko pa ngayon, after ng term ni Digong, magbabalik fiesta kaya ang mga hinayupak na drug personalities na ito???

 

Kaya nga priority bill ni Duterte ang Death Penalty. Sana mahabol ito sa kanila. Biro mo isang General or Mayor executed by hanging due to drug crimes.

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there is a reason to make extreme measures dahil sobrang malala na ang problema sa droga sa pinas. Admit it, pati kayo nagulat na ganito pala kalala talaga. Dont get me wrong, I also dont agree with EJ killings, but kung inasikaso ito ng mga past presidents, you think aabot tayo sa ganito? wala kasing tumutok nuon pa man. Pati yang justice problem, sa panahon lang ba ni digong problema yan? ilang presidente na ba dinaanan ng problema na yan?

 

Hindi ako nagulat na ganito kalala ang problema sa droga...alam natin lahat na talamak yan dati pa.

 

Extreme measures? Yes, but within bounds of the law. Kaya nga umano'y puros nanlaban ang lahat ng napatay, kasi may problema kapag pumatay ng basta basta. Kahit na yan ang no. 1 pusher ng bansa.

 

 

 

The problem is we don't know who wil lbe the next president/prime minister. Akala mo ba matutuloy ang bitay kung ang next leader against sa death penalty? Akala mo ba may pakialam si Digong kung kanino yan i credit? He want this country to be clean of corruption. Alam naman niya na after his term puputaktihin din siya ng mga kaso. May personal ba siyang mahihita sa ginagawa niya ngayon? Diba wala. Pero bakit niya ginagawa, para kanino ba niya ito ginagawa?

Bakit akala mo rin ba mauubos ni Digong ang lahat ng pusher at addict sa Pinas in 6 yrs?

 

Lets be real, alam natin na 6 yrs lang ang term at tiyak mapapalitan siya after. Whether or not the next president is for death penalty is beside the point. Ang importante mahatulan at maparusahan na naayon sa batas. Kaya nga ang importante di corrupt yun nagpapatupad ng batas. Kasi matitiyak mong pagdudusahan ng mga kriminal ang kasalanan nila at di nagbubuhay hari sa loob ng bilangguan.

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Kaya nga priority bill ni Duterte ang Death Penalty. Sana mahabol ito sa kanila. Biro mo isang General or Mayor executed by hanging due to drug crimes.

automatic irereview ng SC ang kaso kapag bitay ang hatol. Yun ay after mahatulan sa lower court, then court of appeal. How long will it take? O di ba sabi mo earlier yun concern mo is paano if yun next president ayaw sa death penalty?

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that sir is what will differentiate Digong from previous pres and other politicians. Kasi kung hindi dahil sa political will niya at iaasa lang sa mga korte korte, wala din syang pinag iba sa mga dati at wala ding masyadong mangyayari sa laban na ito. walang mga mayor/general/VIP na mababasag ang paghahari sa droga.

 

someone has to make drastic change and to make a diff. approach. its not pretty, its messy. sinabi niya yan nung campaign "it will be bloody and messy". And isang buwan pa lang yan - more will come.

 

never in our history na merong identified mayor/general/judge na nalink sa droga ang napangalanan at nakilala ng publiko at eto iniimbestigahan na.

 

isa pa sa mas inaalala ko pa ngayon, after ng term ni Digong, magbabalik fiesta kaya ang mga hinayupak na drug personalities na ito???

 

So inaamin na ninyo na may utos ng extra judicial killing si digong? Edited by rooster69ph
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So inaamin na ninyo na may utos ng extra judicial killing si digong?

 

For me I never denied may go signal yan sa itaas. Kailangan kasi may masample para matakot. Hindi kasi na uubra yung huli, piyansa, labas, tapos huli ulit. A cycle that will go on for years hanggang mahatulan siya from his cases. Pag ganito lang rin it will be the same as before. Sinabi naman niya ito sa kampanya niya. And those 16M votes niya are expecting it this way.

Hindi niyo pa ba nakukuha that the small numbers of death are already saved lives 10folds?

Example.

If 9/11 will repeat again. Will the US Air Force shut down the airplanes even there are innocent lives inside at stake? Di ba yun na magiging option para mas maraming buhay ang maligtas?

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For me I never denied may go signal yan sa itaas. Kailangan kasi may masample para matakot. Hindi kasi na uubra yung huli, piyansa, labas, tapos huli ulit. A cycle that will go on for years hanggang mahatulan siya from his cases. Pag ganito lang rin it will be the same as before. Sinabi naman niya ito sa kampanya niya. And those 16M votes niya are expecting it this way.

Hindi niyo pa ba nakukuha that the small numbers of death are already saved lives 10folds?

Example.

If 9/11 will repeat again. Will the US Air Force shut down the airplanes even there are innocent lives inside at stake? Di ba yun na magiging option para mas maraming buhay ang maligtas?

Aba sabi nun isa wala daw utos si digong at bato....

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Sa mga protector ng droga, shaming them is the best way to stop his illegal way instantaneously. Basag na pangalan niya para mag prtect pa sa mga drug transactions. Usually kasi ang intel na makukuha is also from criminals within the inner circle or using illegal wire tapping. Kung sa korte pa idadaan we all know na malabo i convict yan. Kasi yang mga drug lords na yan kapag wala nang protector from govt. officials madali nang mahuli mga yan.

 

 

sure, tama ka... but who decides kung sino ang protector ng droga, yung Intelligence ni Digong na mali-mali?

granted na may mga guilty sa mga yan, WHAT ABOUT THE INNOCENT? sorry na lang?

 

 

malabo maconvict sa korte.... baka dahil walang ebidensya?

kung yan ang sinasabi mo, bakit sina colangco nakakulong sa bilibid?

 

so you are saying na dahil hindi kayang i-convict, name shaming or EJ Killings na lang gagawin?

 

 

 

 

For me I never denied may go signal yan sa itaas. Kailangan kasi may masample para matakot. Hindi kasi na uubra yung huli, piyansa, labas, tapos huli ulit. A cycle that will go on for years hanggang mahatulan siya from his cases. Pag ganito lang rin it will be the same as before. Sinabi naman niya ito sa kampanya niya. And those 16M votes niya are expecting it this way.

Hindi niyo pa ba nakukuha that the small numbers of death are already saved lives 10folds?

Example.

If 9/11 will repeat again. Will the US Air Force shut down the airplanes even there are innocent lives inside at stake? Di ba yun na magiging option para mas maraming buhay ang maligtas?

 

what if ikaw or ang isang mahal mo sa buhay ang masample para matakot sila.... willing ka ba?

if yes, i can make that arrangements... PM tayo.

 

 

I am not a fan of CJ Sereno, but i'd admit her response letter to Duterte's public annoucement of alleged "narco-judges" puts Duterte in his place.

 

Napahiya sya dito nang husto. More so than the judges he tried to shame.

 

He is not used to this kind of intellectual counter-move. This should make him sit up and re-think his strategy.

 

There are different ways of intimidating different types of people.

 

He blundered embarrassingly on this one.

 

 

kaya nga nagpuputak ng martial law at constitutional crisis..... lumalabas ang pagka-arogante at shallow nung tao.

 

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what if ikaw or ang isang mahal mo sa buhay ang masample para matakot sila.... willing ka ba?

if yes, i can make that arrangements... PM tayo.

 

 

May nabalitaan ka bang pinatay na 1st offenders? Lahat mga yan may record na sa PNP/NBI kaya nasa listahan nila. Palibhasa kasi you are living in an upscale neighborhood kaya hindi mo nararamdaman ang before and after effect ng drug campaign ni Duterte. Same here ,there are lots of pusher/addict/hitmen living in the neighborhood that I can make an arrangment.

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@jopoc, in your personal opinion. Do you think he would really mean it? "declare martial law?" of course he would need congress approval for it but i doubt it na yun talaga ang intention niya. kumbaga "bugso lang ng damdamin" yun para sakin. Ganun sya eh, no formalities, no pretentions, no BS, just plain common human like us.

 

If you had watched the report of Joseph Morong of GMA's State of the Nation, he and the then anchor Chino Gaston had the perfect analogy and explanation about these statements of Du3o during that moment (check it on youtube or in the news FB page)

 

Of course its wrong to say that and I dont agree na ganun ang sagot niya sa isang magalang na liham ng Chief Justice sa kanya pero, parang hindi naman natin kilala si Mr. Pres. Parang si Kris Aquino, taklesa :lol:

 

kaya siguro hindi pinatulan ni Sereno kasi ganito din ang tingin niya

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May nabalitaan ka bang pinatay na 1st offenders? Lahat mga yan may record na sa PNP/NBI kaya nasa listahan nila. Palibhasa kasi you are living in an upscale neighborhood kaya hindi mo nararamdaman ang before and after effect ng drug campaign ni Duterte. Same here ,there are lots of pusher/addict/hitmen living in the neighborhood that I can make an arrangment.

 

 

really? who says who to k*ll and whom not to k*ll?

how sure are you that all those killed are NOT innocent?

 

remember this guy?

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/797470/foundation-condemns-killing-of-criminology-scholar-in-buy-bust-op

 

may balita ka ba kung nasa listahan sya ng NBI o anumang ahensya?

 

 

 

@jopoc, in your personal opinion. Do you think he would really mean it? "declare martial law?" of course he would need congress approval for it but i doubt it na yun talaga ang intention niya. kumbaga "bugso lang ng damdamin" yun para sakin. Ganun sya eh, no formalities, no pretentions, no BS, just plain common human like us.

 

If you had watched the report of Joseph Morong of GMA's State of the Nation, he and the then anchor Chino Gaston had the perfect analogy and explanation about these statements of Du3o during that moment (check it on youtube or in the news FB page)

 

Of course its wrong to say that and I dont agree na ganun ang sagot niya sa isang magalang na liham ng Chief Justice sa kanya pero, parang hindi naman natin kilala si Mr. Pres. Parang si Kris Aquino, taklesa :lol:

 

kaya siguro hindi pinatulan ni Sereno kasi ganito din ang tingin niya

 

 

so you are saying that digong will follow the law?

eh yung follow the law on apprehending criminals without killing, nasusunod ba?

 

yung law na bawal ang threatening to people, nasusunod nya ba?

 

 

actually, hindi yung martial law ang worry ko, yung pagsabi nya na uutusan nya lahat sa executive na hindi sumunod sa utos ng mga korte, thus creating a constitutional crisis.... kaya bang gawin yun? kaya...... hindi ka ba concerned dun?

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really? who says who to k*ll and whom not to k*ll?

how sure are you that all those killed are NOT innocent?

 

remember this guy?

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/797470/foundation-condemns-killing-of-criminology-scholar-in-buy-bust-op

 

may balita ka ba kung nasa listahan sya ng NBI o anumang ahensya?

 

 

 

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/574202/news/metro/4-drug-suspects-killed-in-separate-incidents-in-manila

 

^More balance news on the incident. He is not that innocent knowing others are drug criminals. Criminology student siya, dapat nga mas alam niya na huwag dumikit sa mga drug personlalities. Moreover dapat pa nga niya ito isuplong sa pulis knowing alam niya sigurado mga gawain ng mga kasamahan niya.

 

so para lang si Digong, saying one thing but meant the other.

 

Bakit ako ba nagsasabi ng iba iba? I dont deny ever na may EJ killings na nangyayari na may basbas sa itaas.

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really? who says who to k*ll and whom not to k*ll?

how sure are you that all those killed are NOT innocent?

 

remember this guy?

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/797470/foundation-condemns-killing-of-criminology-scholar-in-buy-bust-op

 

may balita ka ba kung nasa listahan sya ng NBI o anumang ahensya?

 

 

 

 

 

so you are saying that digong will follow the law?

eh yung follow the law on apprehending criminals without killing, nasusunod ba?

 

yung law na bawal ang threatening to people, nasusunod nya ba?

 

 

actually, hindi yung martial law ang worry ko, yung pagsabi nya na uutusan nya lahat sa executive na hindi sumunod sa utos ng mga korte, thus creating a constitutional crisis.... kaya bang gawin yun? kaya...... hindi ka ba concerned dun?

 

im not worried about any of them.

 

cause it will not happen IMHO

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http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/574202/news/metro/4-drug-suspects-killed-in-separate-incidents-in-manila

 

^More balance news on the incident. He is not that innocent knowing others are drug criminals. Criminology student siya, dapat nga mas alam niya na huwag dumikit sa mga drug personlalities. Moreover dapat pa nga niya ito isuplong sa pulis knowing alam niya sigurado mga gawain ng mga kasamahan niya.

 

 

 

you were asking me kung may nabalitaan akong napatay na wala listahan ng NBI... alam mo ba kung nasa listahan yung batang yun?

 

sabihin na natin na alam nyang drug pusher friends nya... sapat na dahilan yun para patayin sya?

 

ako nga law student ako noon, hindi ko alam na isa sa mga closest friends ko ay adik... nakikitulog pa ako sa house nya kung saan sila nagse-session ng tropa nya... hindi nya sinasabi sa akin kasi alam nyang magagalit ako... kung hndi lang sya nahuli ng pulis hindi ko malalaman. please, stop generalizing people and making unfounded conclusions.

 

 

Bakit ako ba nagsasabi ng iba iba? I dont deny ever na may EJ killings na nangyayari na may basbas sa itaas.

 

 

 

let me go back to the hanging question na hindi mo pa nasasagot.... willing ka bang maging sample para matakot ang iba?

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you were asking me kung may nabalitaan akong napatay na wala listahan ng NBI... alam mo ba kung nasa listahan yung batang yun?

 

sabihin na natin na alam nyang drug pusher friends nya... sapat na dahilan yun para patayin sya?

 

ako nga law student ako noon, hindi ko alam na isa sa mga closest friends ko ay adik... nakikitulog pa ako sa house nya kung saan sila nagse-session ng tropa nya... hindi nya sinasabi sa akin kasi alam nyang magagalit ako... kung hndi lang sya nahuli ng pulis hindi ko malalaman. please, stop generalizing people and making unfounded conclusions.

 

 

 

 

let me go back to the hanging question na hindi mo pa nasasagot.... willing ka bang maging sample para matakot ang iba?

 

Anong generalizing people sa post ko na yan? Di ba tungkol lang yan sa isang tao na nadamay kasi nandun siya sa isang drug den na bahay?

 

I already answered your question in my previous post.

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Anong generalizing people sa post ko na yan? Di ba tungkol lang yan sa isang tao na nadamay kasi nandun siya sa isang drug den na bahay?

 

 

 

 

 

heto yung sinasabi ko generalizing people... porket criminology student, dapat alam nyang adik mga kasama nya?

 

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/574202/news/metro/4-drug-suspects-killed-in-separate-incidents-in-manila

 

^More balance news on the incident. He is not that innocent knowing others are drug criminals. Criminology student siya, dapat nga mas alam niya na huwag dumikit sa mga drug personlalities. Moreover dapat pa nga niya ito isuplong sa pulis knowing alam niya sigurado mga gawain ng mga kasamahan niya.

 

Bakit ako ba nagsasabi ng iba iba? I dont deny ever na may EJ killings na nangyayari na may basbas sa itaas.

 

 

 

 

Again, i answered you.... may nabalitaan akong napatay na "First Offender" which in this case seems to be a non-offender pa nga.

and your argument now is that dapat sya isuplong sa pulis dahil criminology student sya, alam nya dapat na drug criminals mga kasama nya.....

 

 

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I already answered your question in my previous post.

 

 

and what is your answer? oo o hindi, willing ka bang gawing sample?

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heto yung sinasabi ko generalizing people... porket criminology student, dapat alam nyang adik mga kasama nya?

 

 

 

 

Again, i answered you.... may nabalitaan akong napatay na "First Offender" which in this case seems to be a non-offender pa nga.

and your argument now is that dapat sya isuplong sa pulis dahil criminology student sya, alam nya dapat na drug criminals mga kasama nya.....

 

 

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and what is your answer? oo o hindi, willing ka bang gawing sample?

 

You should try to understand my post as a whole. Di ba sinabi ko knowing. That's the key word to that post. Hindi lang being a criminology student but knowingly taht crimes are being commited in the house den. HIndi naman yun malaking bahay para indi mo mapansin dahil hindi lang adik kundi drug den din yung bahay.

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You should try to understand my post as a whole. Di ba sinabi ko knowing. That's the key word to that post. Hindi lang being a criminology student but knowingly taht crimes are being commited in the house den. HIndi naman yun malaking bahay para indi mo mapansin dahil hindi lang adik kundi drug den din yung bahay.

 

how sure are you that he KNOWS?

 

anyway, lumalayo na tayo... so, yung taong pinatay, pang ilang offense nya ba? saan sya nakalista??

 

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sagutin mo naman.... WILLING KA BANG MAGING SAMPLE?

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http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/574202/news/metro/4-drug-suspects-killed-in-separate-incidents-in-manila

 

^More balance news on the incident. He is not that innocent knowing others are drug criminals. Criminology student siya, dapat nga mas alam niya na huwag dumikit sa mga drug personlalities. Moreover dapat pa nga niya ito isuplong sa pulis knowing alam niya sigurado mga gawain ng mga kasamahan niya.

 

Bakit ako ba nagsasabi ng iba iba? I dont deny ever na may EJ killings na nangyayari na may basbas sa itaas.

 

 

Well sabi mo nga ... Yun batang innocente sa drugs dapat ang ginawa niya hindi dumikit at isinuplong sa pulis. Tama naman knowing mali o masama ang ginagawa ng mga ito lalu na't Criminology student ito.

 

Now going back to your 2nd statement ... alam mo may EJ killings na nangyayari, alam mo mali and yet you support Duterte and defended him on this matter.

 

Si Duterte, presidente, abugado malawak ang kaalaman sa batas, and yet siya ang may basbas ng EJ killings (to follow your logic/statement),. Di ba dapat siya ang nagpapatupad ng batas, hindi promotor ng illegal na patayan and yet wala lang?

 

Double standards o maling palusot?

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