Kapote Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Di ba nga dapat pa matuwa yung mga pro-DU30 sa report na yan kasi it gives more reason for the war on drugs? Teka, ano na nga ba ulit label dito sa SWS, part din ng "yellow media"?Ok, sige, matuwa na lang tayo sa Headline nila "Tumaas ang Krimen, Dumami ang Adik,at di na ligtas sa daan" fine, NEWs naman yan kasi at di naman OLDs. Bakit nga ba news ang tawag sa current events? Seriously? Quote Link to comment
filibustero Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Ok, sige, matuwa na lang tayo sa Headline nila "Tumaas ang Krimen, Dumami ang Adik,at di na ligtas sa daan" fine, NEWs naman yan kasi at di naman OLDs. Bakit nga ba news ang tawag sa current events? Seriously? SWS data released on Monday, reported by media outfits on Tuesday. Survey data taken before new President holds office, which actually serves as a good baseline. If SWS conducts a similar survey afterwards, they can compare data from right before DU30 held office with data from his first few months in office. Sensationalized headlines did not suddenly appear when DU30 took office in Malacanang. Dati pa ginagamit ng media yan to catch people's attention so that they will read the article. Mind you, sensationalized doesn't necessarily mean false. Usual exaggerations in trade ang tawag dyan. At ayon sa Article 1340 ng Civil Code, "The usual exagerrations in trade, where the other party had the opportunity to know the facts, are not in themselves fraudulent." And let's face it, the media is a business. Those media companies don't do what they do for "public service", even if that's what they try to sell to you. Ang moral of the story: wag puro headline ang basahin. Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) Di ba nga dapat pa matuwa yung mga pro-DU30 sa report na yan kasi it gives more reason for the war on drugs? Teka, ano na nga ba ulit label dito sa SWS, part din ng "yellow media"? Look at the header of the report: Fear of burglary, unsafe streets, drug addicts rise: surveyDi ba misleading agad iyan kasi hindi mo naman agad iisipin na may survey na lalabas 3 months ago pa. Bakit hindi gawin nila yan sa presidential survey tapos ilabas nila 3 months ago tignan ko kung walang aangal na partido.Pwede naman nilang i release yung survey na yan agad pero bakit gagawing baseline eh meron namang datos ang PNP regarding sa crime commited. Edited October 5, 2016 by haroots2 Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) Look at the header of the report: Fear of burglary, unsafe streets, drug addicts rise: surveyDi ba misleading agad iyan kasi hindi mo naman agad iisipin na may survey na lalabas 3 months ago pa. Bakit hindi gawin nila yan sa presidential survey tapos ilabas nila 3 months ago tignan ko kung walang aangal na partido.Pwede naman nilang i release yung survey na yan agad pero bakit gagawing baseline eh meron namang datos ang PNP regarding sa crime commited. kaya kailangan 'magbasa" ... at pag sinabing magbasa hindi lang headline kundi yun laman mismo ng balita. =============== Parang itong balita ... Duterte effect ba ito? Samantalang ang figures na sinasabi ay for the first 9 months. Investment pledges soar 49% to P286 Bhttp://www.philstar....-soar-49-p286-b Investors continue to bet big on the Philippines despite the negative publicity the country has been getting from the spate of drug-related killings and President Duterte’s controversial pronouncements. Investment pledges approved by the Board of Investments (BOI) in the nine months ending September 2016 soared 49 percent year-on-year to P286.44 billion, the agency’s managing head Ceferino Rodolfo said yesterday. Edited October 5, 2016 by rooster69ph Quote Link to comment
filibustero Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Look at the header of the report: Fear of burglary, unsafe streets, drug addicts rise: surveyDi ba misleading agad iyan kasi hindi mo naman agad iisipin na may survey na lalabas 3 months ago pa. Bakit hindi gawin nila yan sa presidential survey tapos ilabas nila 3 months ago tignan ko kung walang aangal na partido.Pwede naman nilang i release yung survey na yan agad pero bakit gagawing baseline eh meron namang datos ang PNP regarding sa crime commited. SWS measures perception. Kaya nga "Fear of". Hindi simply "burglary, drug addicts rise" which PNP data has based on reported crimes, not through surveys. In short, magkaiba ang sinusukat ng SWS data sa PNP data, although you can use empirical research methods to draw a correlation between the two sets of data. I don't know about the others, but I wasn't misled to thinking anything after reading the header because my instinct is to read the details of the article to get information. The header in itself is not false, but it doesn't present a complete picture either - as do most headers. You can only fit so much information in one line. It's just a line that's supposed to catch your attention so you will read the article. So I take it the SWS is presumed to be part of, or is in partnership with, the "yellow media"? Para lang clear kung ano yung mga sources na may halong kulay. Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 So I take it the SWS is presumed to be part of, or is in partnership with, the "yellow media"? Para lang clear kung ano yung mga sources na may halong kulay. I'm sure that survey is done and verified for release July pa bakit ngayon lang nilabas? What's the point of fear if it may not be applicable now. Ang may fear ngayon ay yung mga nasa listahan na drug pusher kaya sila ngayon ang takot lumabas at nagtatago na. I know that you can't misinterpret the headline but you know the answer if the lower class read it lalo na kung ganyan din ang headline sa tabloid. Quote Link to comment
filibustero Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I'm sure that survey is done and verified for release July pa bakit ngayon lang nilabas? What's the point of fear if it may not be applicable now. Ang may fear ngayon ay yung mga nasa listahan na drug pusher kaya sila ngayon ang takot lumabas at nagtatago na. I know that you can't misinterpret the headline but you know the answer if the lower class read it lalo na kung ganyan din ang headline sa tabloid. Actually ok pa nga kung ganyan lang ang headline sa tabloid. Tame pa nga yan kasi ibang level talaga sensationalized headline sa tabloid. Favorite words ko sa tabloid headline ang "timbog", "tiklo", "todas", etc. Haha. Ewan ko din kung bakit ngayon lang nilabas ng SWS yang survey data na yan. So again, ang sinasabi ba dito eh in cahoots with the "yellow army" ang SWS? Pero yun nga, pabor pa sa war on drugs ang survey data na yan. Madali i-spin na it's a rising public concern that needs to be addressed immediately and decisively, and that is whtat the government is doing now. Tapos. No need for politically incorrect references to the nazis and the holocaust. Di mahirap para kay Andanar, o kahit kay Yasay pa, na i-spin yan kumpara sa pag-spin sa public statements ni Digong lately. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Look at the header of the report: Fear of burglary, unsafe streets, drug addicts rise: surveyDi ba misleading agad iyan kasi hindi mo naman agad iisipin na may survey na lalabas 3 months ago pa. Bakit hindi gawin nila yan sa presidential survey tapos ilabas nila 3 months ago tignan ko kung walang aangal na partido.Pwede naman nilang i release yung survey na yan agad pero bakit gagawing baseline eh meron namang datos ang PNP regarding sa crime commited. So who is at fault? Who are you blaming for trying to mislead? SWS or ABS? Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 So who is at fault? Who are you blaming for trying to mislead? SWS or ABS? SWS Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Actually ok pa nga kung ganyan lang ang headline sa tabloid. Tame pa nga yan kasi ibang level talaga sensationalized headline sa tabloid. Favorite words ko sa tabloid headline ang "timbog", "tiklo", "todas", etc. Haha. Ewan ko din kung bakit ngayon lang nilabas ng SWS yang survey data na yan. So again, ang sinasabi ba dito eh in cahoots with the "yellow army" ang SWS? Pero yun nga, pabor pa sa war on drugs ang survey data na yan. Madali i-spin na it's a rising public concern that needs to be addressed immediately and decisively, and that is whtat the government is doing now. Tapos. No need for politically incorrect references to the nazis and the holocaust. Di mahirap para kay Andanar, o kahit kay Yasay pa, na i-spin yan kumpara sa pag-spin sa public statements ni Digong lately. Tama ka this survey should help the govt. on their current war on drugs to justify their immediate actions. But the survey came too late. Ang dami nang nag react and it reaches worldwide na. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 SWS Para magkaliwanagan lang ... Then why are you blaming the headline ...for misleading? Eh talaga naman kakalabas lang ni SWS nun survey when they reported it. At tama ka naman na medyo late na nilabas ni SWS siguro ang survey results. Look at the header of the report: Fear of burglary, unsafe streets, drug addicts rise: surveyDi ba misleading agad iyan kasi hindi mo naman agad iisipin na may survey na lalabas 3 months ago pa. Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Para magkaliwanagan lang ... Then why are you blaming the headline ...for misleading? Eh talaga naman kakalabas lang ni SWS nun survey when they reported it. At tama ka naman na medyo late na nilabas ni SWS siguro ang survey results. Alam nilang history na yung survey kaya dapat dinugtungan nila na during Pnoys time. May intent talaga ang SWS diyan sa survey release na iyan na makisabay sa issue ngayon. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 (edited) Alam nilang history na yung survey kaya dapat dinugtungan nila na during Pnoys time. May intent talaga ang SWS diyan sa survey release na iyan na makisabay sa issue ngayon. point taken... but i guess if it favors your idol you should also react the same way ... hindi "seen zone" lang. Investment pledges soar 49% to P286 Bhttp://www.philstar....-soar-49-p286-b Investors continue to bet big on the Philippines despite the negative publicity the country has been getting from the spate of drug-related killings and President Duterte’s controversial pronouncements. Investment pledges approved by the Board of Investments (BOI) in the nine months ending September 2016 soared 49 percent year-on-year to P286.44 billion, the agency’s managing head Ceferino Rodolfo said yesterday. So for instance hindi ba sa headline sa taas dapat sinabi rin na bulk of the pledges were during PNoy's time? Or better to really prove that Investors continue to bet on the Philippines despite the negative publicity it would be better to show or use the pledges for the 3 month period that he is in office rather than using the past nine months figures where wala naman siyang kinalaman doon. In fact if you ask economist, yun mga pleges na nakukuha this early on may be still the trickle effect of the past Admin. Maaring nakalinya o nasa pipeline na talaga ang mga eto kasi dati pa trinabaho at ngayon lang na finalized. Edited October 6, 2016 by rooster69ph Quote Link to comment
nobody15 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 the media only tells what people needs to see and not the real story. for example the recent "rampage" of the police using the vehicle to disperse the rallyist, making the police looking bad and not the rallyist Quote Link to comment
Booblehead Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 So who is at fault? Who are you blaming for trying to mislead? SWS or ABS? SWS and ABS CBN are owned by the same kind of oligarch scratching each others back. Quote Link to comment
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