Boston Celtics

[fatchubs]

^^^As we can see in this thread, it seems the Celtics fans are very quiet these days despite all the off season dealings.

[alberto_]

celts will lose so many games this coming season.

[yrrah123456789]

^yup! rebuilding team na kasi sila at wala na si doc rivers dun. pag si rondo pa ang umalis. nganga na lalo ang boston.

[idolkita01]

Mas maganda pang trade nila si rondo habang may value pa at pwedeng may makuhang Mga assets na magagamit pra sa pag rebuild ng team. Wla na ring nababasa kung andon si rondo. Kahit 8th spot mahihirapan silang umabot Daming nag upgrade na team.

 

Full rebuild na dapat yan

[fatchubs]

Wag lang sana umabot ng isang dekada bago magcontend uli

[*kalel*]

Well using your lingo ... Being able to maximize earnings and getting assets in return is one thing. But a good fund manager is not only evaluated based on his last trade. In this case Ainge needs to reposition ( which he is doing now) and keep the fund earning. The question is will his reinvestment strategy be profitable as well? The fear is yes the fund manager may have realized all of its gains but moving forward the portfolio will be on the losing end. I just hope history won't repeat itself for the C's wherein it took them years to rebuild after the profitable run in the 80's.

Bottomline, does he really want his portfolio to be volatile (ie. rebuild win a championship then free fall from there) or he wants to ensure steady growth? From the looks of it it seems to me that Ainge took the high risk path ... Thus we probably would expect a correction rather than a consolidation at this point.

It will take time... it is the basic difference of asset management vsbasketball strategy... Sa asset kita agad ang kita, sa basketball minimum 1 to 2 years... Nothing is instant....

[idolkita01]

It will take time... it is the basic difference of asset management vsbasketball strategy... Sa asset kita agad ang kita, sa basketball minimum 1 to 2 years... Nothing is instant....

 

Mahirap Maging general manager ng isang sports team. Kailangang magisip ka sa kinabukasan Ng team. At least 2-3 years ahead.

Kung kelan mo kailangan I trade yung player or kung may nakuha kang mga free agents etc...

[fatchubs]

It will take time... it is the basic difference of asset management vsbasketball strategy... Sa asset kita agad ang kita, sa basketball minimum 1 to 2 years... Nothing is instant....

[fatchubs]

Un result ng return depends on the assets acquired. May magbibigay ng immediate result may asset naman na buburuhin muna

[Guest Riveria]

Now that the big 3 are gone and it's possible that rondo (big 4) will be traded. What will happen to Celtics fans?

 

I will always be a Celtics fan

^^^As we can see in this thread, it seems the Celtics fans are very quiet these days despite all the off season dealings.

 

It's sad that key players left the team.

 

celts will lose so many games this coming season.

 

I'm hoping they won't.

[*kalel*]

Nope.... Assets value are computed in their npvs unlike a rebuilding team

[fatchubs]

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Nope.... Assets value are computed in their npvs unlike a rebuilding team

 

Again let me reiterate what i said ... Depende sa asset yan. un equities for instance generally long term investment yan. While you purchasae it at its present valuation, un result, in this case price appreciation takes time. Same goes say for real estate investment.

 

 

Edited July 6, 2013 by fatchubs

[fatchubs]

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I will always be a Celtics fan

 

 

It's sad that key players left the team.

 

 

 

I'm hoping they won't.

 

Players come and go ... But hopefully the fans remains. Nun time kasi na nagpapanalo ang Celtics specially during the time of the big 3 sobrang active ng boston thread. Ang daming fans na nagpopost at nakikipag "asaran/alaskahan" sa kalaban na teams. Pero nownawala parang bulaang karamihan. Halos mabaon nga itong thread.

[GT888]

Players come and go ... But hopefully the fans remains. Nun time kasi na nagpapanalo ang Celtics specially during the time of the big 3 sobrang active ng boston thread. Ang daming fans na nagpopost at nakikipag "asaran/alaskahan" sa kalaban na teams. Pero nownawala parang bulaang karamihan. Halos mabaon nga itong thread.

 

I guess with Pinoys that is true. Or those that live outside of the City.

 

I shall be forever a Boston Fan because of 2 reasons.

 

Larry Bird and Co and I worked there for 4 years.

 

Boston is a major city that loves its Sports. From the Celtics (Basketball), Sox (Baseball), Bruins (Hockey) and the Patriots (Football) - and of course the Revolution for soccer .

 

Being one of the oldest cities in the US with clear roots of legacy. Each citizen is part of the team. Do you know that Boston is the only city in the world that has won all major world championships this decade?

 

Boston has always been a haven for sports activities, from the Marathon to hotdogs in Fenway Park and the awesome Gillette Center!

 

Some cities would not have the legacy that Boston has, so be proud brother! Boston Celtics forever.

 

Its like Ginebra - Always having the home court advantage.

 

I guess there are cities with the same heritage like New York, Chicago and LA but Boston? Boston always goes to war.

 

Always remember being a Boston fan means being part of the team. I really don't know much about statistics and rebuilding NAV's.

 

But one thing is for sure. Once the Boston crowd gets into the game. No Kobe or Lebron can turn the tide.

 

I LOVE BOSTON FOREVER

[fatchubs]

Bandwagon fans tawag mo sa mga ganon. Pag nananalo lang don sila masaya. Pag Hindi, Nasa wala yung mga so called fans.

 

well mukhang madami bandwagon fans ang C's. The Boston thread is one of the most active if not the most active thread years back when they were a serious contender. Now it seems non Celtics fans are keeping this thread alive.

[JinFreecs]

Naiwan si Rondo

[*kalel*]

Gusto nilang gawing centerpiece si rondo.... Kaso ang tanong ganun pa kaya kagaling si rondo kung di si pierce at garnet ang finishers?

[GT888]

COMMENTARY | These days, it's become progressively more difficult to stick up for Dany Ainge.

 

 

 

 

 

Sure, the Boston Celtics president of basketball operations deserves a mild reprieve. After all, he just embarked on a slow-and-steady but full-fledged rebuilding effort. That doesn't win GMs many popularity contests. But it generally helps their organizations win in the not-so-distant future, as opposed to fading into a decade-long period of mediocrity.

 

 

 

 

 

Celtics Nation remembers the post-Larry Bird, pre-Kevin Garnett era. Poor draft selections compounded free agency blunders for years, mostly because the franchise held on to the winning recipe of the 1980s too closely, and for too long.

 

 

 

 

 

Ainge had no intentions of delving back down that path. Even while healthy toward the end of January 2013, the Celtics sat three games under .500 at 20-23. The end appeared to be looming for their nucleus of stars.

 

 

 

 

 

Rajon Rondo then partially tore his ACL, and then-rookie Jared Sullinger underwent season-ending back surgery. Ugly seemed to be getting catastrophic. That is, until Boston won seven straight games and 14 of 18 total, and proceeded to clinch the seventh seed in the Eastern Conference Playoffs.

 

 

 

 

 

After a six-game postseason exit at the hands of the New York Knicks, fans were torn--should Ainge blow up the team and completely restart? Should he roll the dice and nurse his guys back to health for one more playoff run?

 

 

 

 

 

For now, it's hard to imagine he accomplished either.

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, he blew up the team. Pierce, the captain, leading scorer and 15-year veteran of Boston, was sent to the division rival Brooklyn Nets. Garnett, the defensive anchor and emotional pulse of the Big 3 era, went with him. Before they even knew what weather to pack for, coach Doc Rivers wanted out. Ainge relinquished the nine-year coach's contract, and allowed the Los Angeles Clippers to sign him in exchange for a 2015 first-round pick.

 

 

 

 

 

But as of today-July 18-it's hard to define any of this as the first stages of actual "building," with or without the "re" in front. It's a demolition, sure. One might even say he burned the whole house down. Most fans don't see signs of rebuilding, but rather an oversized stack of wet wood. Save for a strong draft selection in seven-footer Kelly Olynyk, it looks like Ainge is just standing over the detritus pouring out more gas.

 

 

 

 

 

That's because this squad, as it stands, probably won't be bad enough to qualify for a lottery pick in the rich upcoming draft class of 2014. They also probably aren't good enough to make the playoffs. They'll likely finish right in the middle of the league, maxing out between 31 and 36 wins--the kind of record Boston brandished for eight seasons between 1993 and its championship year in 2008 (it finished with 24 wins or fewer three times during that span).

 

 

 

 

 

Draft picks will certainly help fend off perennial awfulness--after the bevy of trades, Boston now owns the rights to nine first-round picks over the next five years--but Ainge's drafts are never a sure bet. Unless he can somehow land an elite talent by packaging some of these assets, like he did with KG in 2007, extra draft picks from strong teams like the Nets and Clippers could further delay the "full rebuild."

 

 

 

 

 

Another problem, and perhaps the most glaring one, lies in the team's salary breakdown and total roster. With the signings of Brazilian center Vitor Faverani and undrafted point guard Phil Pressey basically both finalized, the Celtics now have the maximum 15 players on their roster. Second-round draft acquisition Colton Iverson would make 16. Shavlik Randolph, whose unguaranteed contract must be picked up by August 1, would make 17.

 

 

 

 

 

With an overabundance of players, and a $72,047,821 inclusive payroll already exceeding the cap ($58.679 million) and luxury tax threshold ($71.748 million), Ainge has a lot of work to do before he's off the hook with Boston fans.

 

 

 

 

 

After all, Pierce and Garnett just unenthusiastically introduced themselves to Brooklyn, along with trade cohort Jason Terry. Pierce said he was hurt, regrettably stating he intended to spend his entire career in Boston, as part of one city with one team like Kobe Bryant, Dirk Nowitzki and Tim Duncan. He also said he had to convince Kevin "I Bleed Green" Garnett, during a 90-minute phone call, to waive his no-trade clause, delay retirement and come with him to the Nets.

 

 

 

 

 

Such statements won't exactly boost Ainge's approval ratings throughout New England. And suiting up the likes of Kris Humphries and Gerald Wallace, two of the players Boston netted in the deal, would hurt even worse.

 

 

 

 

 

Humphries will be due a whopping $12 million this season, which would make him the highest-paid Celtic. Wallace will earn over $10 million for the next three years. These contracts will not be easy to move.

 

 

 

 

 

But the president better try as hard as possible. And for that matter, he should attempt to deal Brandon Bass ($6.45 million, $6.9 mil in 2014-15), Courtney Lee ($5.22 million, $16.3 mil by 2016) and Jordan Crawford ( $2.16 million).

 

 

 

 

 

These guys could be solid role players for a contender, but they are expensive scrubs on a rebuilding squad. Even if Ainge gets 75 cents to the dollar for a package involving any and all of them, he should pull the trigger (think expiring contracts, draft picks). The top priority of any rebuilding franchise should be to clear as much future cap space as possible.

 

 

 

 

 

Although Hump's contract expires at the end of the season, the combination of Wallace, Bass and Lee will earn $22.45 million the following year. That's over one-third of the projected 2014-15 salary cap ($62.1 million) for three players who have no part of the organization's future.

 

 

 

 

 

Ainge must surrender his no-tanking philosophy once and for all, and make the best decisions now for Boston's long-term future. Trying to ride out semi-quality veterans in a rebuilding year makes no sense. This squad features talented young prospects, all of whom can develop if given the playing time this upcoming season will afford. Aiming for a .500 record and falling just short, or limping into the playoffs and busting once again in the first-round, could be two of the stupidest plans in all of the NBA.

 

 

 

 

 

Here's the consensus message(s) for Danny from the Twitterverse: fix things (or get out). If not for the fans, do it for Andrew Wiggins, Julius Randle, Marcus Smart, Jabari Parker, Andrew Harrison, Mitch McGary and Aaron Gordon. The future rests on your next two and a half months of activity.

 

 

 

 

 

Otherwise, Boston could be reentering another dreaded, humdrum era of 30-win seasons.

 

 

 

 

 

Sloan Piva lives in New England and covers the Boston Celtics. He can be found on Twitter @SloanPiva.

 

 

[fatchubs]

 

Does Fab Melo Have a Place with the Boston Celtics?

 

 

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/does-fab-melo-place-boston-celtics-120200435.html

[fatchubs]

Does Fab Melo Have a Place with the Boston Celtics?

 

 

Meanwhile, Fab Melo never made an impact, and spent most of the season in the D-League. He did have bright spots in the D-League, however, averaging 9.8 points, 6.0 rebounds, and 3.1 blocks per game.

 

Doc Rivers is generally hesitant to give rookies significant playing time, but Melo's lack of impact on this year's team is concerning. Sullinger got his chance before his injury, and Boston was in need of bigs by the end of the season. Jason Collins got a shot primarily for his defensive abilities before he was traded, so the fact that Fab Melo was stuck in the D-League says something.

 

http://sports.yahoo....-120200435.html

Edited July 22, 2013 by fatchubs

[ma€l]

Boston starts rebuiling

[fatchubs]

Gary Washburn: #celtics finally figured Melo had no future in Boston, long-term project they didn't want to wait on. Greene has been letdown but has upside Twitter @GwashNBAGlobe

 

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[alberto_]

wala na si melo. wala na ang "future elite shot blocking big man" ng celtics.

nakakatawa....

[fatchubs]

Sabi sa isang article na nabasa ko ... "The Fab Melo Era in Boston is over before it ever really began."

 

 

Well considering un mga BIGS na kinuha ni Ainge sa draft, it does not really look good for Fab. Kaya nga nag post na ako dati kung may place pa siya sa Boston Celtics.

Edited August 16, 2013 by fatchubs

[jopoc]

most depressing photo

 

mukhang hindi sila masaya sa pagiging celtics nila.

 

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/003/307/759/CelticsSad_original_crop_650.png?1376695159

 

peace!!!!