Boston Celtics

[rooster69ph]

If it isn't for rooster69ph aka kupaloids. I pity you, troll. You deny all you want, kupaloids/rooster69ph. Try to change your style. It's too predictable. Just use your pathetic alternick, rooster69ph. From the political threads to the sports threads, you are like a lackey following your master. The last time I checked, I never said anything about a Fab Melo. Haha! Troll, you are confused. Another one of your pathetic alternicks just like rondo_freak, peithe, celts, liar. What's more pathetic is that you wasted time to make another alternick because rooster69ph has always been mortified by will robie on the political threads. Unlike you, I don't have to "like" my own posts using alternicks, simply because I don't have any alternicks. Haha!

madam auring at its best

[will robie]

madam auring at its best

Because a troll with a lot of alternicks said so?

 

Kamusta naman yung mga alternicks mong si liar, peithe, celts at rondo_freak?

Edited May 13, 2019 by will robie

[kupaloidss]

Yes, Brad Stevens is a better coach than Rivers. Stevens piloted a team without an injured Irving and Hayward to the ECF. Logically speaking, a team with a healthy Hayward and Irving would help the Cs advance to the Finals. Apparently, there were some chemistry issues when Irving got back, not to mention Hayward still recovering from his injured leg. This post is obviously aimed at discrediting me. At least, I gave my opinion and you are trying to discredit it after the fact that the Bucks beat the Cs.

lalo mo lang pinalakas punto ko. magaling nga na coach si stevens kasi nga napaabot niya sa ecf nung wala sila kyrie eh ngayon andyan sila. ano nangyari? 1 panalo sa isang 7 game series? tapos, palusot mo chemistry issues? bakit nga nagkaroon ng chemistry issues? kasi nga nagreklamo mga players na hindi na nakuha mga minuto nila tulad last yr. yung pinagmamalaki mong coach, hindi inayos problemang yon.

 

wala na sila dapat dahilan para matalo this year. hangga't hindi lumampas ng finals ang paborito mong coach at manalo ng championship. hindi ko siya ikukumpara sa isang great coach na tulad ni doc.

 

yung opinion mo sa coach stevens na yan Mali. hindi great coach yan at mas lalong hindi siya magaling kay doc. hanggang ganyan na lang yan. lalo na ngayon mas maraming mga team ang gumaling ngayon. hindi na tulad dati na madali silang makakapasok sa ecf.

 

ang sa akin resulta ang importante. ilang taon nang coach si stevens pero may panalo na bang championship? Wala pa. mas talented na nga team niya sa mga team na hinawakan ni doc pero hindi niya mapa-abot sa finals?

 

pinagmamalaki mo pa ang system nya. ang tanong, nanalo ba sila sa system niya? bilangin mo mga taon. alam ko may palusot ka sa bawat taon silang natalo, gamit ang pinagmamalaki mong super lakas at great system ni brad stevens.

 

delusyonado ka nga kung tingin mo ang isang coach na may ilang taon nang pagkakataon na magkaroon ng success hindi man mapa-abot sa finals ang isang team ay mas magaling pa kay doc rivers na nanalo ng championship laban sa isang super talented na kobe, gasol lakers. ano next na palusot mo? paalisin si kyrie at hayward? tapos sila tatum brown etc... ulit? lalong walang mangyayari nagawa na nila ang lineup na yan. pero natalo pa rin sila.

 

hindi ko kailangan i-discredit ang sinasabi mo tungkol kay stevens. kasi lumalabas na ang totoo. yung hula/prediction/opinion mo tungkol sa kanya ay MALI hahaha. wala rin ako paki kung wala kang paki sa opinion ko.

[kupaloidss]

palitan si stevens yan ang solusyon sa problema ng celtics. hindi siya yung na proclaim na "great coach" ng iba diyan. hindi marunong mag manage ng star players. may system nga siya na effective pero may hangganan yung effectiveness nung system niya.

 

ang expectation nung team ay dahil nagawa niyang madala ang isang no superstar team sa ecf ng mga nakaraang taon, ay kulang na lang ng superstars para madala sa promised land. ano nangyari? na expose ang kakulangan ni stevens

 

sasabihin ko na hindi lang gameplanning, x's & o's at system ang papanalo sayo. kailangan marunong ka rin magmanage ng mga players. hindi marunong si stevens sa aspeto na to

 

hindi ko basta basta ilalagay itong coach na to sa level nung ibang mas magagaling na coach.

[kupaloidss]

rooster69ph aka kupaloids, you are clueless on what plagues the Celtics. You don't watch Celtics games and all you can do is tell me that chemistry issues is an excuse. It's a valid point. Of course, you wouldn't know that since all you do is troll.

binasa mo ba buong post ko sir? namimili ka pa ng post at yun ang pipiliin mong replyan. may pa clueless clueless ka pang nalalaman. kala mo dahil nag eenglish ka at gumagamit ng fancy words pinapalabas mong matalino ka?

 

sabi ko sa ilang taong nakalipas na coach si stevens. umabot na ba siya sa finals? hindi lang itong series na to yung tinutukoy ko. every year napaghahalata ka tuwing natatalo ang celtics lagi kang may "dahilan" kung bakit sila natalo. at magbibigay ka ng hula/prediction mo sa bawat player sa team na magiging ganito sila, magiging ganyan. pero ang end result talo pa rin eh.

 

ni isang beses hindi ko nabasa sa bibig mong kailangan magkaroon ng change sa coaching staff. dahil laging players ang binabatikos mo. yung huling 5 taon na coach si stevens ang pinakamataas na naabot ng team niya ecf. pero natatalo sila lagi. every year may palusot ka kung bakit sila natatalo? this year ang palusot mo chemistry. may buong season/training camp sila para magkaroon ng chemistry. dahil natalo sila chemistry pa rin ang problema?

 

hindi ko alam kung in love ka kay stevens kaya bilib na bilib ka sa coaching nya pero ang end result ng 6 niyang taon bilang coach kasama ito wala pa rin championship.

 

at saka anong magagawa ng pag summarize ko ng system ni stevens sayo? ang resulta ba ng system niya = winning a championship?

sabi ko sayo kung hanggang sa playoffs lang umaabot ang team mo at nakuhang bigyan na siya ng front office ng mga all star caliber players kasama ng mga talented players sa draft. yung sisi sa coach na yon para pagalingin niya ang team at umabot sa championship.

 

bakit dinidiin mo yung resulta ng playoffs na to sa akin pero ang kabuuuan ng 6 na taon na stevens ang pinupunto ko? gusto mo pang palabasin na itong series na ito lang ang binabanggit ko.

 

sige wag na nating isama ang 1st yr niya. para mabigyan siya ng pass. sama na rin natin 2nd yr niya. yung 3rd yr niya hanggang ngayon taon ang i summarize natin. bakit hanggang ngayon hindi sila umaabot sa finals? nung mga nakaraang taon lagi sila talo sa cavs dahil kay lebron. ngayon naman sa milwaukee sila natalo

 

kailan mo aaminin na ang problema sa team ay ang coach? bilangin pa natin ng 2-3 pang taon bago mo ma realize na si brad ang problema? last post ko na to. mamarkahan ko itong post na ito at. babalikan kita sa next season at titignan natin kung magiimprove si "napakagaling na brad stevens" at madala niya sa finals ang boston. dahil tingin ko gasgas na ang kanyang mga pass sa mga playoff failure nila sa team.

 

hindi ko na rin papansinin yung mga nonsense mo pang pinagsasabi na "ignorant, clueless" at kung ano ano pang gusto mo idagdag na walang kinalaman sa topic.

 

basta ito ang basehan ng great coach laban sa good coach. championship or wala.

[TheListOfJon]

I don't know what Danny Ainge thought of Kyrie Irving. Millions of Celtic fans, me included, thought that Kyrie was the alpha that we needed at the beginning of the season. Apparently, he isn't. Read my original post that you quoted. What is your understanding of that post?

Are you not of the belief that the sheep (fans) and the shepherd (GM) share a general expectation of what kind of a player the team was getting from a Kyrie Irving?

 

My post had nothing to do with what Danny thought of Kyrie. If you think that I am in denial that Danny made a mistake, that is your opinion and I will say this. Your opinion is wrong.

Do you think that my opinion is wrong, based out of your stubbornness? Why would you believe that Danny boy still has hope that Kyrie could still be a Batman for the C's?

[will robie]

Are you not of the belief that the sheep (fans) and the shepherd (GM) share a general expectation of what kind of a player the team was getting from a Kyrie Irving?

 

Do you think that my opinion is wrong, based out of your stubbornness? Why would you believe that Danny boy still has hope that Kyrie could still be a Batman for the C's?

Again, I wouldn't know what Ainge was thinking. Like I said, I thought Kyrie was an alpha-level player. This playoffs showed he is not. But I still believe that Danny will make the decisions that will improve the team. Personally, I wouldn't mind if Kyrie leaves.

 

You said that I am in denial, right? To which I said that it is your opinion and that your opinion is wrong because I am not in denial.

[TheListOfJon]

Again, I wouldn't know what Ainge was thinking. Like I said, I thought Kyrie was an alpha-level player. This playoffs showed he is not. But I still believe that Danny will make the decisions that will improve the team. Personally, I wouldn't mind if Kyrie leaves.

 

You said that I am in denial, right? To which I said that it is your opinion and that your opinion is wrong because I am not in denial.

 

Welp that is an answer, I guess.

[will robie]

I wasn't a fan of the "trade AD to Boston" but after seeing what happened against the Bucks, that would have been a good idea. But if the Cs made the trade, I was thinking it should be an AD for Kyrie trade. However, I wanted to give Kyrie a chance to lead but, apparently, Kyrie couldn't carry this team. I don't know what Ainge will do but, as a fan, I couldn't care less where Kyrie ends up. If he ends up with the Cs, he has to sacrifice for the team and play team ball.

 

The Cs should trade for AD. I leave it up to Ainge to pick who is going to be expendable.

Edited May 18, 2019 by will robie

[will robie]

 

The Cs should trade for AD. I leave it up to Ainge to pick who is going to be expendable.

If the Cs don't get AD, they should give the KD option another try. Kyrie Irving may be gone and I couldn't care less. I don't mind KD signing with the Cs if he opts out of his contract. At least, the Cs won't have to trade Tatum and Brown. Ainge will definitely look for this option.

Edited May 18, 2019 by will robie

[darksoulriver]

If the Cs don't get AD, they should give the KD option another try. Kyrie Irving may be gone and I couldn't care less. I don't mind KD signing with the Cs if he opts out of his contract. At least, the Cs won't have to trade Tatum and Brown. Ainge will definitely look for this option.

 

imo Brown and Tatum can be traded for any FA...

 

Rosier possible gone next season

 

And Ainge doesn't care who will be gone next season as long he stays

[daphne loves derby]

Rozier already stated that he does not want to comeback if they will re-sign Kyrie.

 

Too much drama in the C's off season now

[will robie]

 

imo Brown and Tatum can be traded for any FA...

 

Rosier possible gone next season

 

And Ainge doesn't care who will be gone next season as long he stays

Do you mean Kyrie Irving? Danny and Brad gave Kyrie a chance to lead the Cs this season. Unfortunately, he can't cut the mustard. For me, Kyrie is akin to a Mchale or James Worthy. A great complimentary superstar but not an alpha-level player to lead you to the promised land. At the beginning of the season, I was high on Kyrie. I expected him to lead the Cs to the Finals. Unfortunately, the regular season was a portent of things to come. Although the regular season is not the playoffs, the regular season showed what kind of leader he is. He criticized and alienated team mates. I ignored it since the goal was to win a championship. Kyrie unraveled in the Milwaukee series. What was supposed to be his showcase series turned out to be a dud for Kyrie. I am not exactly sure if a majority of Celtics fans want him back because I certainly don't care where he goes. If he signs with the Cs, Brad should make him follow his system which is predicated on crisp ball movement and superstar hero ball to which Kyrie was accustomed to.

Edited May 21, 2019 by will robie

[darksoulriver]

Do you mean Kyrie Irving? Danny and Brad gave Kyrie a chance to lead the Cs this season. Unfortunately, he can't cut the mustard. For me, Kyrie is akin to a Mchale or James Worthy. A great complimentary superstar but not an alpha-level player to lead you to the promised land. At the beginning of the season, I was high on Kyrie. I expected him to lead the Cs to the Finals. Unfortunately, the regular season was a portent of things to come. Although the regular season is not the playoffs, the regular season showed what kind of leader he is. He criticized and alienated team mates. I ignored it since the goal was to win a championship. Kyrie unraveled in the Milwaukee series. What was supposed to be his showcase series turned out to be a dud for Kyrie. I am not exactly sure if a majority of Celtics fans want him back because I certainly don't care where he goes. If he signs with the Cs, Brad should make him follow his system which is predicated on crisp ball movement and superstar hero ball to which Kyrie was accustomed to.

 

Kyrie is a disappointment on defense and offense during the playoff against the Buck.

 

so its better for the Celtics to cut the ties with him and find someone who can lead the young roster.

[will robie]

 

Kyrie is a disappointment on defense and offense during the playoff against the Buck.

 

so its better for the Celtics to cut the ties with him and find someone who can lead the young roster.

No argument here

[bosorero]

Ano na kyrie

[will robie]

Congratulations to Marcus Smart for being chosen to the NBA’s Defensive First Team.

[junix]

Do you mean Kyrie Irving? Danny and Brad gave Kyrie a chance to lead the Cs this season. Unfortunately, he can't cut the mustard. For me, Kyrie is akin to a Mchale or James Worthy. A great complimentary superstar but not an alpha-level player to lead you to the promised land. At the beginning of the season, I was high on Kyrie. I expected him to lead the Cs to the Finals. Unfortunately, the regular season was a portent of things to come. Although the regular season is not the playoffs, the regular season showed what kind of leader he is. He criticized and alienated team mates. I ignored it since the goal was to win a championship. Kyrie unraveled in the Milwaukee series. What was supposed to be his showcase series turned out to be a dud for Kyrie. I am not exactly sure if a majority of Celtics fans want him back because I certainly don't care where he goes. If he signs with the Cs, Brad should make him follow his system which is predicated on crisp ball movement and superstar hero ball to which Kyrie was accustomed to.

chief, i was really disappointed with kyrie's performance specially during the bucks series. i never thought, even in my imagination, that he'd fail to deliver big time. i was hoping he would be "THE ONE" who'd bring the Cs back to the nba finals. honestly, yes the Cs, unlike last year's run to the ECF, lost ball movement where almost everybody contributed. rozier was a revelation last year but lost significant playing time this season because of kyrie. will the Cs go after AD? could he be that player who will lead the Cs over the hump?

[will robie]

chief, i was really disappointed with kyrie's performance specially during the bucks series. i never thought, even in my imagination, that he'd fail to deliver big time. i was hoping he would be "THE ONE" who'd bring the Cs back to the nba finals. honestly, yes the Cs, unlike last year's run to the ECF, lost ball movement where almost everybody contributed. rozier was a revelation last year but lost significant playing time this season because of kyrie. will the Cs go after AD? could he be that player who will lead the Cs over the hump?

Same here, chief. Like I said in my posts here, I couldn't care less where Kyrie lands up. He can go to LAL with his king for all I care and be the prince. As for AD, I think Ainge will gun for him but it will come at a steep price. My guess is Jayson Tatum and a couple of players for salary fillers. A starting five of Horford, Davis, Brown, Smart and Hayward looks intriguing. I like Tatum but that Bucks series made me wish for AD.

[dencio]

If the Celtics are going to seriously go after AD, they must be willing to outbid the Lakers and Knicks, among others. A package of Tatum and salary fillers will not cut it (and won't even pass trade rules). Reports have indicated that the Lakers may include the no. 4 pick in this year's draft to the group of young players they were offering at this year's trade deadline. The Knicks may also use the no. 3 pick, although their current roster doesn't have anyone as tasty as Tatum or the Lakers' young players.

 

A package of Tatum, Smart, Baynes and a couple of their stashed future picks, I think, should be enough to entice Griffin and the Pels.

[daphne loves derby]

Why focus on AD when you can shift to KD?

 

or

 

keep the core intact and add "valuable" role players and improve the bench?

[dencio]

^^ Boston is over the cap. They can't bid for KD. Sign-and-trade puede pero mahirap.

 

The Celtics have several free agents - restricted and unrestricted - so they can overhaul the team. But why would there be a need to improve the bench when it's already solid and the dip in talent from the starters is not significant?

[will robie]

If the Celtics are going to seriously go after AD, they must be willing to outbid the Lakers and Knicks, among others. A package of Tatum and salary fillers will not cut it (and won't even pass trade rules). Reports have indicated that the Lakers may include the no. 4 pick in this year's draft to the group of young players they were offering at this year's trade deadline. The Knicks may also use the no. 3 pick, although their current roster doesn't have anyone as tasty as Tatum or the Lakers' young players.

 

A package of Tatum, Smart, Baynes and a couple of their stashed future picks, I think, should be enough to entice Griffin and the Pels.

So tell me, how can my suggestion not pass trade rules?

[dencio]

So tell me, how can my suggestion not pass trade rules?

 

Salary matching. Sino ba ang mga salary fillers sa suggestion mo?

[will robie]

Salary matching. Sino ba ang mga salary fillers sa suggestion mo?

I never mentioned any salary fillers because I defer to the wisdom of Ainge when doing that.