Dear Noynoy

[Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14]

Dear ABNoy,

 

Yung pagbibigay mo ng amnestiya sa grupo ni Trillanes ay isang malaking patunay na hindi ang kapakanan ng bansa ang talagang nasa isip mo kundi ang kapakanan ng mga KAIBIGAN AT MGA KAKAMPI MO SA PULITIKA ang mas iniisip mo.. AKALA KO BA DAANG MATUWID?

 

Ang amnestiya mo sa mga rebeldeng sundalo ay isang maling precedent sa mga susunod na sundalong nagbabalak na mag-aklas laban sa gobyerno, hindi na ba tayo natuto sa nangyari sa grupo ni Honasan?

 

Pag nangyari ulit ang pag-aaklas ng mga sundalo sa mga susunod na taon, walang iba dapat sisihin kundi ikaw mr. abnormal president! Dahil imbes na ang admin mo ang magbigay leksyon sa mga sundalong rebelde, ikaw pa mismo ang nangumbinsi sa kanila at nagbigay ng ideya na "ok lang magrebelde tutal pag palit ng presidente lalaya din sila at magmimistulang mga bayani".

 

You had the opportunity to STOP this so-called "military adventurism" but you blew it big time (again and as usual).

Edited October 13, 2010 by Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14

[lomex32]

Dear Noy

 

Gamitin mo na rin ung katuwiran mo sa pagpapalaya kay Trillanes doon sa mga NPA, ABB, MI/MNLF para masaya

 

Lomex

 

Dear noy,

Do you really think letting Trillanes walks free after what he has done can do good in the country? FTW!!

You couldn't even wait for the court to decide on his case. eh paano kung may gumawa ulit ng mga mutinee na yan?

[scam]

Mike Chester,

 

Konting tanong lang. Di ba mutiny rin yung ginawa nina Gloria at Angie Reyes? If not, paki sabi nga dito kung ano yun.

 

i'm not defending gloria & angelo but i believe they are recipients as a result of people power. as they say, mutiny

or coups, once it succeed it's legal but once it fails, it's illegal & perpetrators have to suffer the consequence of their

action.

[scam]

mr. president,

 

nagyabang si puno na hindi mo siya basta-basta mapapakawalan dahil malalim ang pinagsamahan ninyo noon pa.

nasa kanya ang trade mark ng isang government official na mapagsamantala at pag nabuking sa kapalpakan ay gagawin kang pananggalang.

at gusto pang ibaon si robredo para tanggalin mo!

 

and he was proven right dahil di mo siya tinanggal.

ok lang kung personal bodyguard mo siya, tagasalo ng bala.

kaso swelduhan siya sa dilg.

 

maliliit na bagay na pag naipon ay nakakasama.

parang maliliit na candy wrapper sa imburnal. pag dumami magbabara.

 

 

hahaha...i read this as well sa Inquirer Sunday edition. As it turn's out form his revelation of close

relationship, they have planned his candidacy right after his mother's death in puno's house. so yung

mga million signatures & pagtago nya sa zamboanga convent for divine guidance kuno were all props are

things has already been laid out from the start.

 

for all we know, may be he really timed cory's death to grab sympathy & vote from then presidential aspirants.

one hting is sure, the pila ng burol sa la salle & parada ng casket from la salle to the cathedral was all orchestrated

to moth ball sympathy. the rest was history as juan de la cruz fell for this ploy.

[scam]

Mr. Abnoy,

 

Let's recall your reaction when Gloria issued executive clemency to the accused soldiers

of your father's assassination. Was it not you were very vocal to Gloria that time. Even after

those soldiers have suffered in jail brought about by their court sentence, they were all legitimate

for clemency as provided by law.

 

Here you f#&king idiot, hindi pa na sisintenciahan ng court, you already jumped to provide amnesty to

traitors of the country's economy. p#tang %na mo, king hindi pinatay ng mga sundalo ang tatay mo, palagay

mo kaya naging presidente nanay mo pati na rin ikaw? Though your a president, your actions are a shame to

graduates of Ateneo.

[jopoc]

i'm not defending gloria & angelo but i believe they are recipients as a result of people power. as they say, mutiny

or coups, once it succeed it's legal but once it fails, it's illegal & perpetrators have to suffer the consequence of their

action.

 

 

mutinees, coups or rebellions are ALL illegal.

a succesful mutiny, etc. merely puts the victor in a revolutionary government, meaning, political laws do not apply to them anymore. that is the reason why they have to set-up a revolutionary government and make a new constitution (example: cory aquino government after edsa 1).

 

 

i am for the amnesty of trillanes and company. coup or rebellion are political crimes, so the prosecution of which depends on the highest authority of the land. if pnoy feels that they should be given amnesty for fighting gloria (which pnoy is also doing), then that is his prerogative.

 

 

some say this will encourage more coups and rebellions, i dont think that is the case. if one will join any rebellion or coup, he should consider two things: a) that his group will win, and that in case they lose, the next administration will be hostile to the government they fought.

 

this makes rebellion or coup a very risky thing to do. so trillanes and company took the risk (to fight for what they believe in), and that to me makes a good leader (at least on the aspect of being principled). i just hope these guys will not turn out to be trapos one day like honasan and biazon.

[CUMonYou]

Yes Pnoy giving amnesty to those that fight the oppressor should be credited..Matatakot lang sa mutinee ang mga hindi karapat dapat sa pwesto..Our armed forces are professional and patriots and would lay down their lives as their duty calls for it..But when your serving someones personal interest and not the people then the military is responsible for what is right and they are fighting for the people not for the politicians...

 

Jesus Came down to earth as declared by God and written in the bible 2000 Years ago..Was there any change? people got worse as civilization develops..The more civilize we get the more people will be abusing their free will..What jesus failed to do here on earth wants you critic to do in your 100 days...HAHAHAHAHA...man people can be so gullible by their own ideals..they forget that the benefit of the many super cedes their own..

[Mike Chester]

Mike Chester,

 

Konting tanong lang. Di ba mutiny rin yung ginawa nina Gloria at Angie Reyes? If not, paki sabi nga dito kung ano yun.

 

If that one is mutinee then that doesn't mean we can justify the mutiny that was done by Trillanes.

 

At the same time sana pinatapos man Lang niya yung proseso ng judiciary bago sya nagbigay ng amnesty. Ano ba ang minamadali niya para palayain eto, bakit naka priority sa 1st 100 days niya Ito?

 

Ano bang kabutihan ang maidudulot sa bansa ng pagpapalaya niya kay Trillanes , is it for the benefit of the majority? Or it is for his own benefit?

[Mike Chester]

Yes Pnoy giving amnesty to those that fight the oppressor should be credited..Matatakot lang sa mutinee ang mga hindi karapat dapat sa pwesto..Our armed forces are professional and patriots and would lay down their lives as their duty calls for it..But when your serving someones personal interest and not the people then the military is responsible for what is right and they are fighting for the people not for the politicians...

 

Jesus Came down to earth as declared by God and written in the bible 2000 Years ago..Was there any change? people got worse as civilization develops..The more civilize we get the more people will be abusing their free will..What jesus failed to do here on earth wants you critic to do in your 100 days...HAHAHAHAHA...man people can be so gullible by their own ideals..they forget that the benefit of the many super cedes their own..

 

So you also believe na ang mga kagaya ni Honasan ay dapat ding parangalan at nilabanan nila ang paging oppressor ni Cory Aquino?

 

Para mo naming sinabi na parangalan din natin yung mga NPA at ibang mga militating grupo kasi di ba ang pinaglalaban din naman daw nila ay kapakanan ng mga Tao?

 

Meron tayong eleksyon, bakit hindi yun ang ipaglaban nila at bakit kailangang gamtin nila ang mga baril nila para pwersahin ang sarili nila na mamuno sa bansa

[wizard23]

Pnoy, disappointed ang China sa decision mo. despite the IIRC recommendation, hindi mo pinahalagahan ang justice para sa mga victims/HK hostages. you merely slap mayor lim and spared him from criminal charges when it was reported na inutos nya na ipadala yung kapatid ni mendoza sa Tondo (short of saying execute him).

 

you even spared usec puno, versoza who are obviously liable and just admonished them. whatever happened to your statement that heads will roll when the Aug 23 incident was still fresh in everyone's minds?

 

pulis lang ba ang kaya mo parusahan? pero mga bata mo, i aabswelto mo?

 

you are reeking of indecisiveness, double standard attitude, and weak leadership. and it will cost our country intangible losses in the future because of it.

 

if it's true na nag appeal ang IIRC, i hope you will relent. give justice where it's due.

[skitz]

MC,

 

Fair enough. One wrong does not justify another wrong. But implied from your statement is that you AGREE that mutiny rin yung ginawa ni Glory. So ano na ngayon? Wala ng EQUAL APPLICATION of the law? You are concerned that one mutineer will go scot free (after serving time in prison) while another mutineer has enjoyed 9 years in Malacanang? Bakit hindi ka bothered dun? Why don't you raise hell about that as well? Personally, I think Jocjoc Bolante, Garci, Hamburjer Abalos, etc. are more deserving to serve time in prison -- sama na rin si Glory, FG, at Mikey.

Edited October 13, 2010 by skitz

[complicated8]

skitz, I think Jopoc already tackled that.

 

a succesful mutiny, etc. merely puts the victor in a revolutionary government, meaning, political laws do not apply to them anymore. that is the reason why they have to set-up a revolutionary government and make a new constitution (example: cory aquino government after edsa 1).

[jopoc]

MC,

 

Fair enough. One wrong does not justify another wrong. But implied from your statement is that you AGREE that mutiny rin yung ginawa ni Glory. So ano na ngayon? Wala ng EQUAL APPLICATION of the law? You are concerned that one mutineer will go scot free (after serving time in prison) while another mutineer has enjoyed 9 years in Malacanang? Bakit hindi ka bothered dun? Why don't you raise hell about that as well? Personally, I think Jocjoc Bolante, Garci, Hamburjer Abalos, etc. are more deserving to serve time in prison -- sama na rin si Glory, FG, at Mikey.

 

 

here is the funny thing. according to the supreme court, gloria did not commit mutiny and that there was no mutiny, coup or rebellion that time. erap resigned daw, hence constitutional ang succession o pagpalit ni gloria and that there is no need to change the constitution (or declare a revolutionary govt) like what cory did in edsa 1.

 

 

in other words, according to the law (or jurisprudence) hindi pareho ang case nina trillanes and the magdalo sa ginawa ni gloria nung edsa 2. equal application of the law is not applicable in this case.

 

trivia lang

did you know that mutiny, as a crime, is punishable only when committed in the high seas? so if we are to be technical about it, there is no such thing as oakwood "mutiny".

[lomex32]

Dear PNoy

 

Naaasar ka na ba that SC and Ombuds challenged your decisions and proclamations and EO ?

If you wanted to start a fight, the least you can do is finish it...

[Mandrake]

Mr. President

 

What is it with you and Usec. Puno that reminds us of Sam and Piolo?