Pacquiao-Mayweather: “It’s going to happen”

[rooster69ph]

 

Lol! Magkaiba tayo ng pananaw about excuses period. Be it an injury, an accident, or even an act of God! You gotta be able to take full responsibility for your failure and not be making excuses. Failing and making excuses only make you a 2 time loser.

 

Just accept graciously, taloe eh. If it was me, I would have said something like, "I congratulate Floyd, he is the better man tonight. He did beat me. I am sorry to disappoint the fans and the Filipino people that I let down their expectations. Hopefully if Floyd will give me a rematch, I can do better". Tapos!

 

Eto sabi ng teacher namin noon. Kasalanan ng college kung masyado maaga yung schedule ng subject na ito. Kasalanan ng traffic ang hirap pumasok on time. Kasalanan ng libro dahil mahirap intindihin. Kasalanan din ng teacher kasi di magaling magturo. Pero pag bumagsak kami, mahuli sa deadline, di makakuha ng exam, kasalanan namin yan.

 

Yan ang buhay pre. Nobody likes accepting excuses.... maybe you do

 

 

If it was an accident that caused the failure which is beyond one's control thus not your how can he be responsible for it? Ngayon lang ako nakarinig na responsable tayo sa acts of god. But it does not mean he does not have to accept defeat given the circumstance.

Edited May 8, 2015 by rooster69ph

[Edmund Dantes]

 

 

 

 

SO now you are saying they are "faking' the injury? hahaha ...

 

Ano naman ang basis mo???

 

At sino naman dapat sisihin sa "ACCIDENT" aber?

 

 

Tapos ngayon nagtataka ka bakit sinabi kong mahina kokote mo ... saan ko sinabing gusto ko ipa-waive un talo samantalang eto nga ang stand ko

 

 

Kaninong training camp ba yan? Kaninong responsibilidad yan? Kay pacquiao di ba? So alangan naman isisi ito sa NSAC o kay Floyd. Haaaay kitid naman ng pagiisip nito. Kahit pa act of God yung nangyari, kung nangyari sa mismong training camp, therefore responsibility mo yan ihandle ng maayos. Kung tinamaan sya ng kidlat at nagdesisyon na lumaban, eh huwag nya sisihin kidlat kung matalo sya. Sisihin nya sarili nya.

 

Dude, I dont know if you are ignorant or you are just really trying your best. Ang dami dami kayang demanda sa mga kumpanya at institution dahil sa mga accident na nangyayari within their vicinity. Aysus. Sabi ko, kahit act of god pa yan, hindi ibig sabihin waived ka na from the responsibility.

 

Alam mo yung pangiinsulto mo ng intelligence ng iba, hangang yabang lang yan pre. Kaya mo lang yan gawin kasi nasa likod ka ng monitor o keypad mo. Di mo yan kaya sabihin ng harapan. Kasi dalawa pwede mangyari dyan, masapak ka na lang o kaya manliit ka sa sarili mo pag nalaman na ikaw nga pala itong walang accomplishments sa buhay mo lol. Kaya payong kaibigan, HUWAG KA MASYADO MAYABANG

[Edmund Dantes]

 

If it was an accident that caused the failure which is beyond one's control thus not your how can he be responsible for it? Ngayon lang ako nakarinig na responsable tayo sa acts of god. But it does not mean he does not have to accept defeat given the circumstance.

 

If its beyond one's control, then that becomes a no contest. Halimbawa he got the injury from a postbell punch. Or nagpositive sa banned substance kalaban nya. The problem is, its not. He could have chosen to disclose the information, or even choose to postpone. But he didn't. So therefore wala syang lusot. Kasalanan nya pa din kahit papano mo ito pagbali-baliktarin.

 

Ewan ko kung anong industry ka brad, but I can only imagine how is it exactly you can give your best at what you do when you obviously do not understand the basic importance of never making excuses and accepting responsibility! Andyan yung problema, ke aksidente, act of god pa yan, deal with it. If you screw up, dont make excuses. Haaaaay.

[rooster69ph]

 

Kaninong training camp ba yan? Kaninong responsibilidad yan? Kay pacquiao di ba? So alangan naman isisi ito sa NSAC o kay Floyd. Haaaay kitid naman ng pagiisip nito. Kahit pa act of God yung nangyari, kung nangyari sa mismong training camp, therefore responsibility mo yan ihandle ng maayos. Kung tinamaan sya ng kidlat at nagdesisyon na lumaban, eh huwag nya sisihin kidlat kung matalo sya. Sisihin nya sarili nya.

 

Dude, I dont know if you are ignorant or you are just really trying your best. Ang dami dami kayang demanda sa mga kumpanya at institution dahil sa mga accident na nangyayari within their vicinity. Aysus. Sabi ko, kahit act of god pa yan, hindi ibig sabihin waived ka na from the responsibility.

 

Alam mo yung pangiinsulto mo ng intelligence ng iba, hangang yabang lang yan pre. Kaya mo lang yan gawin kasi nasa likod ka ng monitor o keypad mo. Di mo yan kaya sabihin ng harapan. Kasi dalawa pwede mangyari dyan, masapak ka na lang o kaya manliit ka sa sarili mo pag nalaman na ikaw nga pala itong walang accomplishments sa buhay mo lol. Kaya payong kaibigan, HUWAG KA MASYADO MAYABANG

 

 

Ayun ... kaya ang henyong solusyon mo e magpetik-petiks sa sparring para maiwasan ang injury. E sandali ...bakit pa nating pinagtrain. SAna nga naman nag shadow box na lang mas malaking chance na di talaga ma-injured.

 

If its beyond one's control, then that becomes a no contest. Halimbawa he got the injury from a postbell punch. Or nagpositive sa banned substance kalaban nya. The problem is, its not. He could have chosen to disclose the information, or even choose to postpone. But he didn't. So therefore wala syang lusot. Kasalanan nya pa din kahit papano mo ito pagbali-baliktarin.

 

Ewan ko kung anong industry ka brad, but I can only imagine how is it exactly you can give your best at what you do when you obviously do not understand the basic importance of never making excuses and accepting responsibility! Andyan yung problema, ke aksidente, act of god pa yan, deal with it. If you screw up, dont make excuses. Haaaaay.

 

 

Mahirap talaga umintindi???

 

Hindi po ba kaya nga ang sabi ko he is not responsible for the injury as it was an accident but it does not mean he should not accept defeat.

[Edmund Dantes]

Like I said:

 

Buti pa ito si pareng mason eh!

 

I agree, s@%t happens. ganun talaga buhay. Sometimes unexpected problems come along while preparing for something very important. But if you are a professional! You deal with it! And how can you deal with it, if you wont accept responsibility? Dalawa lang yan eh. Either hindi nagingat, or the situation was not dealt with properly going into the fight. Either way that was team Pacquiaos responsibility.

 

Ano bang industy ka rooster? Im sure nagkakaroon kayo ng mga crisis dala ng mga matatawag na "accidents". How do you deal with it? By coping out and saying its not your fault?

[Edmund Dantes]

 

 

Ayun ... kaya ang henyong solusyon mo e magpetik-petiks sa sparring para maiwasan ang injury. E sandali ...bakit pa nating pinagtrain. SAna nga naman nag shadow box na lang mas malaking chance na di talaga ma-injured.

 

 

Mahirap talaga umintindi???

 

Hindi po ba kaya nga ang sabi ko he is not responsible for the injury as it was an accident but it does not mean he should not accept defeat.

 

So accept it fully! Don't bring up excuses. Accept that the outcome was your responsibility. Hindi yung "talo kaya lang......". No buts ifs or maybes. No coulda woulda shoulda. Champions should not make excuses.

[rooster69ph]

 

So accept it fully! Don't bring up excuses. Accept that the outcome was your responsibility. Hindi yung "talo kaya lang......". No buts ifs or maybes. No coulda woulda shoulda. Champions should not make excuses.

 

So pagtinanong ka ng boss mo ...why did you not meet your sales target.

 

Mananahimik ka na lang at sasabihing sorry I am responsible for that even it the reason why you can't sell is because nasira ang makina at walang production sa pabrika.

[Edmund Dantes]

 

So pagtinanong ka ng boss mo ...why did you not meet your sales target.

 

Mananahimik ka na lang at sasabihing sorry I am responsible for that even it the reason why you can't sell is because nasira ang makina at walang production sa pabrika.

 

I never really worked in a corporate environment (baka sabihin mo nanaman masyado ako nagmamarunong ako)

 

But yes I would apologize and take responsibility. Since he asked me why the target was not met, then I will give this as a reason but not use it as a valid excuse. Kasi ang pinaguusapan dito at the end of the day, nangako ako di ba? Parang Idol mo, nangako sya na 100% syang handa at tatalunin nya mayweather. lol.

 

Ngayon kung nagkaroon ng ganyan aberya, maybe I would have called my boss immediately and tell him sira yung makina. And Id find ways to still meet the goals I promised. If I fail, Ill take responsibility and assure him na I took all the lessons I need to learn from the incident.

 

Like it or not, unexpected problems come along the way. You deal with it and accept responsibility

[darksoulriver]

I watched the fight and Manny didn't hold back or wince in pain when he punched. So I deduce that he could fight through the pain. Si Mayweather na nga nagsabi, his punches were fast so the injury wasn't a factor in Pacquiao's defeat.

 

everyone has an opinion...

 

but to see the compubox stats that pacquiao to be out punch by Mayweather there is really something wrong with Pacquiao!

 

could the injury be the culprit? possible... hindi nman tyo mga professional boxers to experience what kind of pain pacquiao experience on that fight night due to that injury....

 

imo a boxer with an injury then hahabulin mo pa yung kalaban mahirap gawin yun! would the shot of pain reliever change the result? who knows!

 

its too late for Team Pacquiao to make excuses...

Edited May 8, 2015 by darksoulriver

[rooster69ph]

 

I never really worked in a corporate environment (baka sabihin mo nanaman masyado ako nagmamarunong ako)

 

But yes I would apologize and take responsibility. Since he asked me why the target was not met, then I will give this as a reason but not use it as a valid excuse. Kasi ang pinaguusapan dito at the end of the day, nangako ako di ba? Parang Idol mo, nangako sya na 100% syang handa at tatalunin nya mayweather. lol.

 

Ngayon kung nagkaroon ng ganyan aberya, maybe I would have called my boss immediately and tell him sira yung makina. And Id find ways to still meet the goals I promised. If I fail, Ill take responsibility and assure him na I took all the lessons I need to learn from the incident.

 

Like it or not, unexpected problems come along the way. You deal with it and accept responsibility

 

 

hindi kaya ganun lang din naman ang nangyari nun dinisclose nila ang injury after the fight sa presscon?

Natalo si Pacman, tinanong bakit ganun ang performance at alam na natin ang sinagot.

Yun ang pananaw ko ... pero tulad ng sinabi ko na sabihin na panalo siya hindi tama. Kasi ako mismo nasabi ko na I scored the fight in Floyd's favor. I just don't agree with the lopsided scoring of one judge.

So aakuin mo rin ang kasalanan ng pagkasira ng makina?

Edited May 8, 2015 by rooster69ph

[Edmund Dantes]

 

everyone has an opinion...

 

but to see the compubox stats that pacquiao to be out punch by Mayweather there is really something wrong with Pacquiao!

 

could the injury be the culprit? possible... hindi nman tyo mga professional boxers to experience what kind of pain pacquiao experience on that fight night due to that injury....

 

imo a boxer with an injury then hahabulin mo pa yung kalaban mahirap gawin yun! would the shot of pain reliever change the result? who knows!

 

its too late for Team Pacquiao to make excuses...

 

Thats true. Mas ok pa nga siguro kung humingi na lang sila ng postponement. Kesa naman ganyan na magsisinungaling pa sa NSAC at gagamitin pa itong palusot pagkatapos matalo.

 

OK andun na tayo. Mahirap makipagsuntukan kapag masakit ang braso mo at pilay. But the responsibility has to fall on someone at the end of the day. Alangan naman kasalanan yan ni Mayweather? Isa pa, he made the decision to go on and push through with the fight. So at the end of the day, ke natalo sya for not being the better fighter or not being at his 100% best, thats his fault.

[Edmund Dantes]

 

hindi kaya ganun lang din naman ang nangyari nun dinisclose nila ang injury after the fight sa presscon?

 

 

Natalo si Pacman, tinanong bakit ganun ang performance at alam na natin ang sinagot.

 

Yun ang pananaw ko ... pero tulad ng sinabi ko na sabihin na panalo siya hindi tama. Kasi ako mismo nasabi ko na I scored the fight in Floyd's favor. I just don't agree with the lopsided scoring of one judge.

 

Lol, its not just what he said, but the way he actually said it. Sya na nga itong hindi nagdisclose, pagkatapos, sasabihin sinabotahe sila ng NSAC. So halatang gumagawa ka lang ng palusot di ba? And its not just that, he can't even give full credit to Floyd. Blaming na he was running and clinching all th time. Nampowtek, 4 na beses ko na napanood laban. I can't see how there was any running. And the clinch? It does happen naman. Was it excessive? Sus mas maraming clinch pa nga sa Tyson Lewis fight.

 

All in all, he lost because a better competitor beat him. Period. Accept that without the coulda-woulda-shoulda

[rooster69ph]

 

Lol, its not just what he said, but the way he actually said it. Sya na nga itong hindi nagdisclose, pagkatapos, sasabihin sinabotahe sila ng NSAC. So halatang gumagawa ka lang ng palusot di ba? And its not just that, he can't even give full credit to Floyd. Blaming na he was running and clinching all th time. Nampowtek, 4 na beses ko na napanood laban. I can't see how there was any running. And the clinch? It does happen naman. Was it excessive? Sus mas maraming clinch pa nga sa Tyson Lewis fight.

 

All in all, he lost because a better competitor beat him. Period. Accept that without the coulda-woulda-shoulda

 

 

Oh well I think we agree on one thing ... He lost the fight and I am one with you that no excuses,

 

But to say that he is responsible for the injury ... yun lang ang pinagtatalunan natin from the start.

 

Tanong ko nga e ...sa example ko aakuin mo ba na ikaw ang may kasalanan sa pagkasira ng makina na wala ka namang kinalaman?

 

 

That is essentially my point ... He should be responsible for the loss meaning even with the injury he should be gracious ... but he is can't be held responsible for the injury. Kaya nga tinanong kita anong ginawa nilang mali kaya nagkainjury. He got it in sparring while preparing ... hindi naman siguro tama na light training lang para iwas injury. By doing that they are not being responsible din in preparing for TBE

 

dalawang issue yan wag mong i-combine

[Edmund Dantes]

 

 

Oh well I think we agree on one thing ... He lost the fight and I am one with you that no excuses,

 

But to say that he is responsible for the injury ... yun lang ang pinagtatalunan natin from the start.

 

Tanong ko nga e ...sa example ko aakuin mo ba na ikaw ang may kasalanan sa pagkasira ng makina na wala ka namang kinalaman?

 

 

That is essentially my point ... He should be responsible for the loss meaning even with the injury he should be gracious ... but he is can't be held responsible for the injury. Kaya nga tinanong kita anong ginawa nilang mali kaya nagkainjury. He got it in sparring while preparing ... hindi naman siguro tama na light training lang para iwas injury. By doing that they are not being responsible din in preparing for TBE

 

dalawang issue yan wag mong i-combine

 

 

In a way, I will take responsibility for it. If I screw up, I will not use it as an excuse. Id ask myself what could I have done better? How do I prevent this again from happening next time? Should I have closely monitored production? Should I have called people early on and tell them me problema so they wont expect so much of me?

 

In the end, I understand that in life, when you screw up nobody is really interested in hearing your excuses. Nangako ako na I will meet a certain goal, and I didn't. Thats the long and the short of it. Kahit pa anong problema dumating, its my responsibility to deal with it.

 

This is basic philosophy of success

[rooster69ph]

In a way, I will take responsibility for it. If I screw up, I will not use it as an excuse. Id ask myself what could I have done better? How do I prevent this again from happening next time? Should I have closely monitored production? Should I have called people early on and tell them me problema so they wont expect so much of me?

 

In the end, I understand that in life, when you screw up nobody is really interested in hearing your excuses. Nangako ako na I will meet a certain goal, and I didn't. Thats the long and the short of it. Kahit pa anong problema dumating, its my responsibility to deal with it.

 

This is basic philosophy of success

One of the thing you said is that you will be asking yourself what you could have done better...

 

Kaya nga kita tinanong diba, ano ba dapat nila ginawa para maiwasan ang injury.

 

Una sinabi mo you don't know ... Then you're telling me sana naghinay-hinay ng training. Nakakatawa lang na ang suggestion kasi how can you win kung petiks sa training?

[rooster69ph]

Should I have called people early on and tell them me problema so they wont expect so much of me?

 

Telling people there is a problem with the intent that they lower expectations is in a way making excuses ahead of your failure. Doers disclose the problem but still assures it will be done and does not expect people to be easy on them.

[gwapingsz1]

I wanted Pacquiao to win to shut Floyd's mouth up. However, I also gave credit to Floyd for mastering the score card. His style is very unique and casual boxing fans will not appreciate it. He may not be the most exciting fighter in the world but he is doing a great job at winning, so far.

[junix]

naalala ko dati medyas ang sinisisi ni pacman hehe.

 

oh yes...i remember this. nagputok-putok daw yata yung sakong niya kaya hindi makagalaw

[Edmund Dantes]

One of the thing you said is that you will be asking yourself what you could have done better...

 

Kaya nga kita tinanong diba, ano ba dapat nila ginawa para maiwasan ang injury.

 

Una sinabi mo you don't know ... Then you're telling me sana naghinay-hinay ng training. Nakakatawa lang na ang suggestion kasi how can you win kung petiks sa training?

 

Alam mo nagiging chicken and egg debate na lang ito. paulit ulit ka na lang sa totoo lang. I suggested a few things that they could have done to better monitor the shoulder while in training. I even suggested on what steps they could have taken when the injury happened, instead of lying and making excuses. Makitid ba talaga sobra pagiisip mo para di tanggapin yan? Anong gusto mo sabihin? Marunong pa ako sa team pacquiao? Wala naman ako sa training camp? Eh ikaw din naman eh, wala ka din naman sa training camp so papano mo nasabi lahat ng ginawa nila tama?

 

Hay ang kulit, ang kulit, ang kuuliiiiiiiit.

[Edmund Dantes]

Telling people there is a problem with the intent that they lower expectations is in a way making excuses ahead of your failure. Doers disclose the problem but still assures it will be done and does not expect people to be easy on them.

 

 

You know, feeling ko mas matanda ako sayo. Alam mo bata, that is not making excuses. It is informing the proper people something of note. Its part of the responsibility. Alangan naman sabihin ko yan pag tapos na deadline? Parang idol mo, something of note injury na yan, dapat siguro di sila nagsinungaling sa NSAC

 

Isa pa, its also your responsibility to make sure expectations are reasonable.

 

Sa annalogy natin, di naman komo ininform ko superiors ko na me problema eh ibig sabihin na nun di ko na gagawan paraan at tutunganga na lang ako. Pero pag sablay pa din. Ill take responsibility for what happened and promise to ensure these things will be prevented

 

Sabi ko nga, di ko alam ang industry mo. But if you wanna be successful at anything you try. DO not make excuses. If you fail, then accept it. Just hope you will be given another shot to do better. Ok na sana eh, me rematch naman daw. Eh kaso nagpalusot yan tuloy

[darksoulriver]

It's not that there was something wrong with Pacquiao, it was because he wasn't able to implement his game plan. Again, if he just threw caution to the wind in the last two rounds, he could have won. Mayweather's opinion carries a lot of weight because he was the one on the receiving end of the punches so he knows what he is talking about. Among all the opinions, his is the most credible. The injury is just a lame excuse because going through with the fight is an implication that he can still fight through the injury.

 

well only professional boxer can tell what kind of pain that injury can inflict or can affect once performance in the ring..

 

like i said its too late to make excuses... and i rather not see a rematch against Floyd..

[Edmund Dantes]

I wanted Pacquiao to win to shut Floyd's mouth up. However, I also gave credit to Floyd for mastering the score card. His style is very unique and casual boxing fans will not appreciate it. He may not be the most exciting fighter in the world but he is doing a great job at winning, so far.

 

Yeah tama ka, sa mga casual fans, hindi crowd pleaser ang style ni Mayweather. Too safe talaga kung titignan. He didnt even try to really hurt Pacquiao. Alam nya basta di sya tamaan at makatama sya mananalo na sya. Pero ganun ang boxing talaga eh. Di naman yan laging parang Rocky IV. Ako man medyo disappointed kahit ang taya ko kay Mayweather. Panalo ako sa pusta at syempre masaya ako dun. Pero, I was still expecting that it would live up to the hype.

 

I wanted Manny to really press the action, and watch how Floyd will play the matador, effectively adjusting to the onslaught, and kahit defensive or technical, exciting pa din laban all and all. Para sakin di naman tumakbo si Floyd gaya ng iniisip ng iba. Talagang he kept it safe lang. Tsaka kasalanan din ni Manny. Kasi we were expecting hed press the action di ba?

 

Not interested on a rematch between these two. Isa pang Pacquiao Marquez na lang tapos retire na.

[tmacgrady1015]

marami pa rin di maka move on sa pagkatalo ni pacquiao... dinaya, binayaran judges, mamafia ang daming palusot.... pag sinabi mo sa social media na talo talaga si pacquiao.... sangkatutak na pangbabash ang aabutin mo... sasabihin nila hindi ka tunay na pinoy, traitor ka... ewan ko sa mga taong ito..

[Edmund Dantes]

marami pa rin di maka move on sa pagkatalo ni pacquiao... dinaya, binayaran judges, mamafia ang daming palusot.... pag sinabi mo sa social media na talo talaga si pacquiao.... sangkatutak na pangbabash ang aabutin mo... sasabihin nila hindi ka tunay na pinoy, traitor ka... ewan ko sa mga taong ito..

 

OO ganyan din inaabot ko, when I merely say something like, "lets move on na lang and not act like bitter losers". Sadly talagang bitter losers ang pinoy eh. Ungracious winners na nga, aasahan mo bang maging gracious losers din yan sila? Naalala ba natin pag si Manny lagi nakakabugbug sa mga mexicano nyang nakakalaban? Kung ano anong meme yung ginagawa. pati Mexico nilalait na. Pero nung nagumpisa ng malaos si manny, kung ano anong pinagdadahilan.

 

To be fair with Manny, I don't wanna take nothing from him. Truly he is a legend. It will take many many years before his accomplishments can be duplicated by anyone. In his prime, he was one bad motherf#&ker who took on any guy he had to jump in the ring with. Though I think medyo overrated panalo nya kay Dela Hoya, he would later on prove that he was indeed for real when he delivered that spectacular KO of Hatton. When he would pummel a bigger and virtually undefeated Cotto. The Margarito fight IMO is the last time we would all see the awesomeness of Pacuqiao. Its one of my favorites. He went into that fight barely making the weltherweight limit. He fought a guy who was practically at middleweight. While Margarito was hardly an elite, it was awesome to see how Manny really would batter a much bigger opposition

 

OK na sana naman talaga eh. Talo eh di talo. Yes I agree, he could have been that champion na kahit talo, he still would win the hearts of many. Ang problema nagiging sore loser naman si manny at yung fans nya. panay excuses pa. Ok na sana kung tanggapin na lang. Anyway competitive naman yung laban kahit papano

[bughaw1]

the greatest con of the century..hehehe