Team Pilipinas Basketball

[Eastpak]

Talaga asar ang BK sir and u cant blame them..Kung alam lang nila na ganun gagawin ni JA sana si Rico na lang ang kinuha nila and nde nila bibigay si Arwind.. Hindi pede pagsabayin nya ang SMART GILAS and BK...Nagpadraft cia and honor nya un commitment nya sa BK...Hindi basta basta problema ang iniwan nya sa BK and PBA...

 

 

Ganun talaga. Wag naman masyado bitter ang BK. E nagbago isip nung bata eh. Parang sa trabahao lng naman yan eh. Nag sign ka ng offer sheet pero na realize mo bigla na ayaw mo pala tumuloy. Besides BK ang nag draft k Japeth..risk nila yun. Business risk yun. Di naman si Japeth ang nangulit sa kanila na i draft sya eh. Parang nag draft ka din tpaos biglang na injure at di na nakapaglaro. Parnag ganun lng diba? Malas lang sila!

[bagito]

Smart Gilas, just like Japeth Aguilar is One Big Hype.

 

Kung totoong kinukuha si Japeth sa NBA, bakit pinagsisiksikan niya sarili niya ngayon sa Pinas? Kung naliliitan siya sa offer ng PBA, sa NBA dapat siya tatakbo at hindi sa Smart Gilas. Eh kaso hindi naman siya pang-NBA gaya ng pinalabas ng Ateneo kaya raw siya pumunta ng US. Tumakbo lang yun dun para di ma-disqualify ang ADMU dahil fake ang HS records ni Japeth. Yun lang yun.

[peithe]

Smart Gilas, just like Japeth Aguilar is One Big Hype.

 

Kung totoong kinukuha si Japeth sa NBA, bakit pinagsisiksikan niya sarili niya ngayon sa Pinas? Kung naliliitan siya sa offer ng PBA, sa NBA dapat siya tatakbo at hindi sa Smart Gilas. Eh kaso hindi naman siya pang-NBA gaya ng pinalabas ng Ateneo kaya raw siya pumunta ng US. Tumakbo lang yun dun para di ma-disqualify ang ADMU dahil fake ang HS records ni Japeth. Yun lang yun.

 

 

Exactly my point ....

 

Its not even the NBA but the CBA or the NBA Developmental League. kung si Giles would accept $15k a month to play here that means he get paid better here than in the US leagues.

 

In that sense, do you think japeth would play here if teams in the minor leagues would like to get him.

[ultegra]

there's just too many fishes in the PBA's little pond! 10 years down the road, that's all they are gonna be, small to medium fishes thinking they are big in their small pond. international exposure will allow him to swim in a bigger pond, probably he'll get noticed by other fishermen and land in Europe, the NBA or other leagues.

 

if japeth's real dream is to get to the NBA, playing in the PBA is not the way to go!

 

he missed his chance playing in a US College team. the national team might be his last chance to get noticed.

[launchpad]

the fact that if japeth can develop himself to be a dominant big man at 6 feet 9 and spell the difference of winning and losing for the national team in the international event could spell good for him

[tagalupa]

Ganun talaga. Wag naman masyado bitter ang BK. E nagbago isip nung bata eh. Parang sa trabahao lng naman yan eh. Nag sign ka ng offer sheet pero na realize mo bigla na ayaw mo pala tumuloy. Besides BK ang nag draft k Japeth..risk nila yun. Business risk yun. Di naman si Japeth ang nangulit sa kanila na i draft sya eh. Parang nag draft ka din tpaos biglang na injure at di na nakapaglaro. Parnag ganun lng diba? Malas lang sila!

 

Hahaha Can't believe this...Hindi maliit un ginawa ni JA na pede ulitin un draft kc makakaapekto to sa PBA...Hindi yun bsta basta ka aayaw pag nagbago isip mo...Malaki epekto un ginawa nya nde lang sa BK pati sa PBA..Hindi pede un katwiran na malas lang ng BK...

[Agent_mulder]

Kagaguhan lang lalo itong ginawa ni Japeth, based on what I've read on this room, he left in the midst of a controversy regarding his high school records, ngayon naman his changed of mind in joining BK, he is jeopardizing his career by listening to the ill-advised of those people....

Edited September 1, 2009 by Agent_mulder

[r3g1n]

sorry but what was the issue with his highschool diploma?...can someone elaborate for those who didn't follow his career prior to the US college stint?

 

thanks!

[greenarrow]

In his (Japeth) last year in HS, he was enrolled simultaneously in TWO schools - Reedley & Mapua.

 

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[silentwater]

In his (Japeth) last year in HS, he was enrolled simultaneously in TWO schools - Reedley & Mapua.

 

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

youre wrong... he transferred to reedley prior to enrolling in admu but some malicious minds tried to create some controversy by insinuating that theres something wrong with his school records...

 

but clearly there is none since nobody was able to bring up any semblance of valid evidence that there was an infraction... even if he left for the US, it wouldnt have mattered if there was really any wrong doing... pede pa rin naman i forfeit at i suspend ateneo if indeed there was truth to the rumours... but there was none, plain and simple...

 

so lets just take it for what it really was... he went to the US because it gave him better opportunities to hone his game... unfortunately for him, he was injured most of the time...

[rakizta]

bibilib sana ako kay Japeth kung di sya nagpa draft tapos sumali na lang sya dun sa Smart Gilas,mas ok pa yun atleast inde nya nagulo ang mundo ng PBA alangan naman ulitin ng PBA yung draft eh halos lahat ng nakuha rookie naka pirma na ng kontrata......laking gulo ito!!

 

is it reallly his own decision?erpat nya kaya?o ni MVP?wala kayang money involve talaga??

[catsumhoto]

whether or not japeth is ready for the pba he should remember one thing... kahit d p cya pumirma ng contract, that fact n he enter the draft got drafted no 1 went upstair to get his jacket and cap from bk take some photo ops shake the hand of the owner/manager... ergo he should honor that commitment..... tawag dyan PALABR DE HONOR...... AS TO HIM PLAYING FOR THE NATIONAL TEAM... COME ON THE LONDON OLYMPICS ALLOTED ONE SLOT FOR ASIAN REPRESENTATIVE..... let see tokoshima we landed 9 with a team of PRO and a lot of preparation and experience with that.... this year we landed at 8 with minor preparation wth a PRO line up and experience.... so do anyone think that smart gilas will be ready by 2011 for the qualifying rounds? smart is eyeing 4 fil am to bolster its line up non of which does not have a credential to merit NBA scouts...

[kleptome]

bibilib sana ako kay Japeth kung di sya nagpa draft tapos sumali na lang sya dun sa Smart Gilas,mas ok pa yun atleast inde nya nagulo ang mundo ng PBA alangan naman ulitin ng PBA yung draft eh halos lahat ng nakuha rookie naka pirma na ng kontrata......laking gulo ito!!

 

is it reallly his own decision?erpat nya kaya?o ni MVP?wala kayang money involve talaga??

 

Walang money involved? read: MVP

 

How in the world could a new team like this recruit Top caliber players with 3 years contract & prevent them from joining the PREMIERE PROFESSIONAL LEAGUE? Again...read: MVP

[silentwater]

Walang money involved? read: MVP

 

How in the world could a new team like this recruit Top caliber players with 3 years contract & prevent them from joining the PREMIERE PROFESSIONAL LEAGUE? Again...read: MVP

 

he never denied naman na may money involved... he even admitted na he will be getting the same amount of money that he will be getting from BK...

 

nga pala si MVP eh shareholder din ng BK, isa sya sa may ari ng BK and he has one of the sharpest minds pagdating sa business... it will be very foolhardy for him to sacrifice his business interest by risking an animosity with his business partners in BK for one player who has yet to prove his worth...

 

in fact, if Japeth proved anything sa stint nya sa powerade, it was that he is not ready to mix it up with the pros at baka nga kahit kay maihoffer eh mahirapan pa sya... he was even close to admitting na he decided against going to the PBA because he may not be ready yet and he needs to hone his skills further...

 

and while i agree that he should have not placed his name in the draft if he has no intention of playing in the PBA... he is entitled to change his mind because there was still no contract signed at this stage... BK drafted him and they took that risk of drafting somebody who may decide against playing for them... its not Japeth who chose BK, it was the other way around so he under no obligation to sign with them if he changed his mind before a contract is signed and finalized... merely accepting the draft and shaking hands with the team owners does not constitute an agreement...

 

besides he did not violate any PBA rules... a draftee is allowed not to sign up with the ballclub that drafted him (but he is not to play with any other ball club for the year)... after another year of sitting out, he can reenter the draft again... that's what the PBA rule says about the matter... even in the nba or in any other professional league, no draftee is ever forced to sign up with the team that drafted them...

 

imagine submitting your CV to a company for a job opening... after reviewing your credential they decided to hire you and forwarded a job offer to you... at that stage, are you obligated to work for them already if before signing an agreement with them you decided to work elsewhere? japeth's case maybe slightly different but it doesnt change the fact that there was no formal agreement signed when he decided to go elsewhere...

 

of course the pba can penalize him but will it be to their best interest to penalize somebody who decided to play for the country instead?

[amante]

so lets just take it for what it really was... he went to the US because it gave him better opportunities to hone his game... unfortunately for him, he was injured most of the time...

I believe quite a number of them were coaches decision.

 

besides he did not violate any PBA rules... a draftee is allowed not to sign up with the ballclub that drafted him (but he is not to play with any other ball club for the year)... after another year of sitting out, he can reenter the draft again... that's what the PBA rule says about the matter... even in the nba or in any other professional league, no draftee is ever forced to sign up with the team that drafted them...

Makes it sort of complicated having Smart Gilas wanting to join this year's all-Filipino conference

[rakizta]

sana nag offer na lang yung Smart Gilas sa ibang player na nasa PBA kung ganyan gusto nila manyari na sa tinign nila makakatulong sa team kampanya nila....

 

Japeth of PBA = Rubio of NBA..nagpa draft pero ayaw mag sign ng contract!!

[Agent_mulder]

Pa-iba iba ang statement ng ng dad ni Japeth, ngayon naman daw dahil sa inabot na mouthful ni Japeth kay Yeng noong nasa FIBA Asia sila, kaya ayaw na maglaro ni Japeth sa BK under kay Yeng. Japeth sa ibang BK ka na nga lang, Barangay Ginebra King hehe....

[peithe]

Pa-iba iba ang statement ng ng dad ni Japeth, ngayon naman daw dahil sa inabot na mouthful ni Japeth kay Yeng noong nasa FIBA Asia sila, kaya ayaw na maglaro ni Japeth sa BK under kay Yeng. Japeth sa ibang BK ka na nga lang, Barangay Ginebra King hehe....

 

 

If a person is telling the truth, his statement as well as those around him will always be consistent ... otherwise, it will constantly change depending on how people would react in order for them to look good or at least in this case the aggrieved party.

 

Players like that have "attitude" problems ... even if he has the potential, I'd probably not keep him.

[launchpad]

this could back fire for japeth, as a person ang gulo gulo nya kausap as a professional you cant find any means that you can respect him.

 

if he turns out to be the basketball players the Philippines ever wanted his value could be diminish in what he is doing now. dapat sa umpisa hanggang sa huli e kung ano ung sinabi un na yun, kung ayaw ayaw gusto gusto.

 

nakikita ko naman kse, madami naman drafted players hindi binigyan ng contract e. ang pagkakaiba lang kse number 1 sya and usually players drafted that high has a 100% chance of getting a contract.

 

naalala ko tuloy ung draft ng shell si carlos sharma, i dont know about this guy when he was a rookie sa dlsu that won the championship ang ganda ng laro nya then after nun decline na sya. tapos i read the newspapers saying that shell is regretting signing sharma, may problema ata ito bata at isinusuka na sya hindi pa nag start ang season.

 

if i were japeth, he should try to honor the pba muna or worked out something like play a year then ask if he can play for the nationals the next year, while his contract should made a clause since he have a stint with the nationals he will honor his contract after the 2012 ( tama ba itong year ). tingin ko naman pwedeng pag usapan yan, just lagay nila ans sabihin ng malinaw. contract signing can be negotiated naman d ba, parang sa draft hindi porket sinabi gusto mo ung player e hindi na pwede i draft ng ibang teams ung player na un kung nauna sila pipili kaysa sau.

 

mangyayari lang dyan e kung priority nya ung nationals edi go, para lang may safety net sya kung hindi mag work out yan may pba pa rin sya. kso syempre rookie salary pa rin makukuha nya even though naka ilan taon na sya sa pba kso hindi lang naglalaro dahil sa nationals

Edited September 3, 2009 by launchpad

[peithe]

Dito nagkakatalo ang definiton ng NATIONALISM ... sa atin kasi mukhang pag naglaro ka sa national team eh pinaklita mo na ang pagkanasyonalismo mo. Ang hindi natin nakikita, may mga players na dapat bayaran o may mga hinihiling kapalit ng kanilang paglalaro.

 

Sa tingin ninyo si Yao Ming, Pau Gasol, Dirk, Tony Parker, ilan sa mga superstars ng NBA na patuloy na naglalaro sa kanilang national team ay binabayaran para maglaro?

[darksoulriver]

Japeth of PBA = Rubio of NBA..nagpa draft pero ayaw mag sign ng contract!!

 

magkaiba ho sila ng kaso... si Japeth wlang contract sa ibang team. Nagbago lng ng isip dahil sa mga chuchu ng mga taong nakapaligid sa kanya. Buti kung maglaro ito ala MJ papalakpakan ko pa sya sa ginawa nya!

 

si Rubio clear for draft pero may existing contract pa sa isang Euroleague team. thinking n papayag mabuy-out pero mautak yung mother team nya he was traded to another team ayun wawa lalo yung SOTA. but SOTA still got the rights on Rubio.

 

 

Peithe Parker, Yao, Gasol playing sa kanilang National Team still get compensated thru other means like privileges, allowance, incentives not necessary a big sum of money not like wat they got with their mother team in NBA.

[launchpad]

i think for yao, he is getting paid but not the amount that can reach the headlines of newspapers.

 

may ibat ibang paraan kse, sa pag aalaga ang alam ko yao gets to have tons of commercials or endorsements from govt owned companies like china mobile and the likes. dyan sya pinapabawi

 

dito kse lahat na lang ata ng govt owned company binenta na kse walang pera, ang nakakapag taka ito nga ung mga nagbibigay ng pera sa bansa binenta pa. kalokohan minsan e

[peithe]

magkaiba ho sila ng kaso... si Japeth wlang contract sa ibang team. Nagbago lng ng isip dahil sa mga chuchu ng mga taong nakapaligid sa kanya. Buti kung maglaro ito ala MJ papalakpakan ko pa sya sa ginawa nya!

 

si Rubio clear for draft pero may existing contract pa sa isang Euroleague team. thinking n papayag mabuy-out pero mautak yung mother team nya he was traded to another team ayun wawa lalo yung SOTA. but SOTA still got the rights on Rubio.

 

 

Peithe Parker, Yao, Gasol playing sa kanilang National Team still get compensated thru other means like privileges, allowance, incentives not necessary a big sum of money not like wat they got with their mother team in NBA.

 

I see ... but are these material to them considering the amount they earn in the NBA?

 

Tingin ko kasi with the amount they earn from their nba contract, they would be well off even not to get those "perks/allowance". In short, bale wala ang mga ito for them to consider playing for their country every summer. Ofcourse, Yao's case is different coz he has an agreement with the gov't coz communist country ang China. Said may not be the case for Dirk, Pau and Tony.

 

I think I mentioned this before, our PBA superstars get paid from their mother clubs and as we know get allowances for training with the RP team. Pero alam natin ang ilan sa kanila gustong di na maglaro since nahihirapan sa double practice.

[game_boy]

the name of this thread should be changed to "japeth a - is he for real?"

[catsumhoto]

hehehe.... mainit n topic c japeth kala kc nila ronnie nathalniez he is the answer to our national team..... not unless he learn to play really basketball then he can be a dominant and the future of RP BASKETBALL but as we have seen him played both in the jones cup and the fiba asia tila he is at a lost as to what he can do... c yi is only 21 and have a variety of moves.... even hadadi is very intimidating for his size and skill... jaeth still lack the skill to make him great .... all he do is slam the ball once inside the paint.... but against bigger player he is at a lost for moves.....