Admu Vs. Dlsu

[ganid]

Totoo kaya ang usap-usapan na kaya biglang bumagsak ang recruitment ng La Salle in the last two years ay dahil maraming alumni supporters ang tinabangan na dahil sa mga kawalanghiyaan pinaggagawa ng mga namamahala sa basketball program nila.

 

The last straw was the Benitez-Gatchalian scandal that resulted in their forfeiting the championship and year long suspension.

 

After that, even avid sponsors like Danding backed off.

 

What do you think?

[barrysaint]

am watching the admu ue sept 14 game. like many games of admu, ang daming turn over ng eagles but they managed to stay on top with a 19 pt lead. defense talaga ang key ng admu. kaya hindi naka porma ang la salle eh. nataranta sila sa defense ng ateneo.

 

and la salles pressing defense, medyo gasgas na kasi kaya almost all teams now know how to get out of it unlike in the early years when they used it talagang aabutan ka ng clock sa backcourt. coach pumaren has failed to come up with something new kaya ayun hindi man lang nanalo sa admu this year.

[xxio]

Totoo kaya ang usap-usapan na kaya biglang bumagsak ang recruitment ng La Salle in the last two years ay dahil maraming alumni supporters ang tinabangan na dahil sa mga kawalanghiyaan pinaggagawa ng mga namamahala sa basketball program nila.

 

The last straw was the Benitez-Gatchalian scandal that resulted in their forfeiting the championship and year long suspension.

 

After that, even avid sponsors like Danding backed off.

 

What do you think?

 

 

I don't know, but my cousin who was a supporter of the program could usually be relied on for a bit of "support" by DLSU. During that DLSU community meeting were the PEP Test scandal was heavily discussed and some alumni walked out because they were unhappy with the views that were espoused by some who held positions of power. He was among them. I haven't asked if he still "supports". Offhand just by our last few conversations I would say no. So maybe this indeed is a factor in the current lack of star/solid players in the DLSU varsity.

[barrysaint]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGaAyUlztmA...feature=related

 

a you tube link about the uaap champions

[xxio]

http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=sports6_oct14_2008

 

 

This is the point of view of someone outside the ADMU vs DLSU community.

[ramilbp]

http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=sports6_oct14_2008

 

 

This is the point of view of someone outside the ADMU vs DLSU community.

 

 

The "island in Thailand’s Satun Province" is now ranked 254.

 

Source

 

Two local universities, the Ateneo de Manila University (ADMU) and the University of the Philippines (UP), saw their rankings rise in The Times Higher Education - QS (THE-QS) World University Rankings 2008, a leading global ranking of higher education institutions.

 

In the overall rankings released Monday, Ateneo rose from number 451 in 2007 to number 254 this year, while UP rose from 398 last year to 276.

[revi]

^

 

It was unworthy of a man supposedly steeped in Christian values and virtues and in many respects molder and protector of the character of our youth. Frankly, we are relieved that we sent our children—the eldest son and two older daughters not to La Salle but to UP. UP may lose one UAAP game after another compared to La Salle, but at least in terms of values, they are winners all the way.

 

Again, even as a La Sallista I do not condemn what was written because I believe that it was done in good taste after what Bro. Luistro said.. The Ateneo-La Salle rivalry is on a high note, and I am not stating this positively, but negatively.. The burning of "poles" on the Ateneo side, and the non-stop accusation of La Salle with regards to that very controversial 2nd game of the just concluded championship game are all done in bad taste..

 

Ronnie Nathanielsz's sentiments is also what I feel right now.. I have asked the question time and time again, why is La Salle doing this? I do not share the same sentiment because that Game 2 will never be proven if the refs were bribed or not.. Kumbaga, just move on.. If this is school pride.. And then it has saddened me..

 

IMO, the Ateneo swagger and the La Salle pride of today are not what I expect from schools with strong religious traditions.. Today, the rivalry is just too much to bear.. What has happened to healthy competition? Nawala na ba? As they say, "the truth shall set you free.." We should just wait for that truth to blossom and clear our thoughts.. But then again, IMO, the 2nd game was indeed controversial in most La Sallista's eyes, but do we really believe that even if Rico had stayed on the court, we could've won?

 

Sa mata ng hindi La Sallista at Atenista, nagmumukha tayong mayayabang.. Sana tumigil na ito!!! Mr. Nathanielsz's article should open not only La Salle's eyes but also Ateneo's, that this friendly rivalry has taken a very wrong turn for the worse.. Who's to blame? IMO, pareho..

Edited October 14, 2008 by revi

[xxio]

Sa mata ng hindi La Sallista at Atenista, nagmumukha tayong mayayabang.. Sana tumigil na ito!!! Mr. Nathanielsz's article should open not only La Salle's eyes but also Ateneo's, that this friendly rivalry has taken a very wrong turn for the worse.. Who's to blame? IMO, pareho..

 

 

I agree. Both sides have made mistakes. Noone is blameless.

 

The glaring thing which Ronnie Nathanielz points out is that the mistake by ADMU was done by an alumni which he apologized for and for which the leader of the school community apologized for as well.

 

The mistake by DLSU was committed by persons in authority, people who should be leading by example. Instead of being magnanimous and accepting an apology Bro. Armin shows that maybe it is not just Coach Pumaren alone who has been leading these boys down the path which has resulted in such an unsportsmanlike/disrespectful attitude towards the game and the UAAP community. If a player/student sees their leader acting that way, how can they expect themselves to be any better?

 

If the apology was accepted for what it was maybe things would simmer down, but to utter inflammatory speeches at a valedictory address which has no bearing on a basketball game takes it yet to the next level. "fanning the flames" was the term used by Mr. Nathanielz. A simple "apology accepted" or even a "no comment" would've shown much more class. That is why people cannot move on. One cannot utter such statements in public and not expect a backlash.

 

If Fr. Nebres ever talked bad about DLSU during a valedictory address I would lose the same respect for him that I have lost for Bro. Armin.

Edited October 14, 2008 by xxio

[revi]

^ I could have not said it any better..

[wizard23]

tapos na dapat yung sa bonfire issue, humirit pa si Bro. Armin. hay... who would believe him na he's not alluding to ateneo in his speech? feeling ko madaming kapalpakan ang la salle this year. of course, i'm sad with the actuations of some la salle personalities. kahit papano whatever the media picks up will convey a bad image to the la salle community. di maiiwasan yan.

 

i just hope that once and for all, we learn from our mistakes, move on, try not to repeat the same mistakes and prepare hard to beat the defending champs next year. that's the best way to vindicate our school.

 

animo la salle!

[wackyracer]

DLSU Graduation Message of Brother Armin Luistro FSC : October 5, 2008

 

I have always marvelled at this happy occasion that we are in. There is no other occasion where we see every person in a room beaming with pride, with a heightened sense of accomplishment than during commencement exercises. For many of you, today is but a formal rite of passage. Much like what we see in most reality shows today, you can rejoice at the thought that you have gone through the worst and survived it. Depending on how lucky you were in avoiding DLSU's most-feared professors, your stay in La Salle could very well be likened to navigating the perilous warzone along Vito Cruz, or an experience of crawling a rat-infested sewer in Leveriza or jumping from the 21st floor of Andrew Hall. The campus can very well be an island in Thailand's Satun Province where the only way of surviving is by maximizing your meager resources and beating the other tribe, hopefully without having to resort to bribing the tribal council or cheating your way to victory. Believe me, there is much more to celebrate today with your personal accomplishments than with the Green Team winning a championship for the season. That despite the fact that I don't see scalpers selling P25,000 patron tickets to watch you come up the stage in your togas to get the photo shot that will grace your blogs or face book in years to come.

 

While each one of you should be congratulated, for the time, effort, sweat, and tears that you have poured into your studies, we must acknowledge, the people who have walked with you throughout your learning journey—your teachers. Tomorrow has been declared by UNESCO as World Teacher's Day, and celebrated annually since 1994. I believe it is providential that your commencement exercises come within a day from an occasion that is celebrated in more than a hundred nations worldwide, and which in the Philippines, we hope will be commemorated for the whole month of October and every year henceforth.

 

Right in front of you, dear graduates, are a significant pool of our Lasallian academic partners, teachers who have facilitated your learning in the courses you have taken. I have recently rediscovered the pain and the joy of teaching. After having been caught up in administrative work for more than a decade, I took the plunge and decided to try to teach again last term. "Just one class," I told myself. "Just to distract myself from the madness of bureaucracy, the ever-draining official functions and never-ending meetings." I must confess I always feel inadequately prepared to face my class and almost on the verge of giving up while in the midst of correcting reflection papers and long-winded essays from students who are experts in using a lot of words to say nothing. Mga Lasalistang bolero! After almost missing the deadline for online submission of grades, I was ready to kiss the experiment goodbye. But I was invited to teach again this term, and I found myself seduced a second time. I was crazy enough to fall in love again. Teaching, that is. Notwithstanding the perils of having to deal with smart Alecks and ADHDs in class, teaching is still an enchanting and addictive vocation.

 

The teachers who are with us today represent but a fraction of the pool of scholars, tutors, researchers that our country has. While De La Salle University is blessed that we have within our midst teachers who have the credentials, the expertise, and the character to take on the vocation, we are disturbed by the reality that we do confront, as a country, a serious problem with regard to the overall teaching workforce. These problems include the continuous deficiency of teachers in basic education, particularly in the public school. We also know that a number of our tutors, in both the public and private schools, especially those who has less materially endowed, are not provided the opportunities to continually update themselves and are compelled at times to handle courses that fall beyond their specialization. Equally disturbing is the paltry compensation that teachers receive in many public and even private institutions. While DLSU could readily boast that our faculty are among the better compensated, their take home pay still pales in comparison to the much more handsome material rewards that their contemporaries in industry receive. Many teachers, particularly those at the basic education level, have joined the ranks of our overseas Filipino workers, trooping to more advanced economies.

 

Though I know a number of your teachers may have given you a "hard time," with all the requirements given, the difficult examinations, or the grades that you felt you did not deserve, or the all too human faults that they exhibit in class, I can assure you that like your parents, they have no other interest in mind than to prepare you for the life that awaits you. Join me in applauding and showing our appreciation and gratitude to your teachers who are with us today.

 

Someone said that the best way to show appreciation for the good that another person has done to us is to pay it forward, to commit the same goodness towards others. In this regard, and for those who have the calling, do take on the challenge of a noble and eternally rewarding profession. Teaching is not a monopoly of teachers. So take the plunge and share with others the gift of knowledge and wisdom that you have received generously from your mentors.

 

Dear graduates, I leave with you one last course requirement: tomorrow, in celebration of World Teachers' Day take the time to write a note or send a text message to at least five teachers in La Salle who have made a difference in your life. Log on to www.teachersday. ph and post a message for those who took the time to walk with you in your journey of learning. And for all of us here present, pass on the message. Every Filipino has a teacher, take the time to thank those who give of themselves to you through the noble vocation of teaching. Tomorrow, let us join the nationwide campaign to celebrate World Teachers' Day by greeting our teachers and encouraging them in their vocation. And for you, beloved teachers, let me leave with you the promise and guarantee of Sacred Scripture: "Those who teach many unto justice, shall shine like stars forever."

Edited October 14, 2008 by wackyracer

[howard_the_duck]

cheating ba kamo? can benitez and gatchalian please stand up?

[tagalinis]

uy tahimik na dito.

 

ONE BIG FIGHT!!!!!!!!

[tagalinis]

DLSU Graduation Message of Brother Armin Luistro FSC : October 5, 2008

 

I have always marvelled at this happy occasion that we are in. There is no other occasion where we see every person in a room beaming with pride, with a heightened sense of accomplishment than during commencement exercises. For many of you, today is but a formal rite of passage. Much like what we see in most reality shows today, you can rejoice at the thought that you have gone through the worst and survived it. Depending on how lucky you were in avoiding DLSU's most-feared professors, your stay in La Salle could very well be likened to navigating the perilous warzone along Vito Cruz, or an experience of crawling a rat-infested sewer in Leveriza or jumping from the 21st floor of Andrew Hall. The campus can very well be an island in Thailand's Satun Province where the only way of surviving is by maximizing your meager resources and beating the other tribe, hopefully without having to resort to bribing the tribal council or cheating your way to victory. Believe me, there is much more to celebrate today with your personal accomplishments than with the Green Team winning a championship for the season. That despite the fact that I don't see scalpers selling P25,000 patron tickets to watch you come up the stage in your togas to get the photo shot that will grace your blogs or face book in years to come.

 

While each one of you should be congratulated, for the time, effort, sweat, and tears that you have poured into your studies, we must acknowledge, the people who have walked with you throughout your learning journey—your teachers. Tomorrow has been declared by UNESCO as World Teacher's Day, and celebrated annually since 1994. I believe it is providential that your commencement exercises come within a day from an occasion that is celebrated in more than a hundred nations worldwide, and which in the Philippines, we hope will be commemorated for the whole month of October and every year henceforth.

 

Right in front of you, dear graduates, are a significant pool of our Lasallian academic partners, teachers who have facilitated your learning in the courses you have taken. I have recently rediscovered the pain and the joy of teaching. After having been caught up in administrative work for more than a decade, I took the plunge and decided to try to teach again last term. "Just one class," I told myself. "Just to distract myself from the madness of bureaucracy, the ever-draining official functions and never-ending meetings." I must confess I always feel inadequately prepared to face my class and almost on the verge of giving up while in the midst of correcting reflection papers and long-winded essays from students who are experts in using a lot of words to say nothing. Mga Lasalistang bolero! After almost missing the deadline for online submission of grades, I was ready to kiss the experiment goodbye. But I was invited to teach again this term, and I found myself seduced a second time. I was crazy enough to fall in love again. Teaching, that is. Notwithstanding the perils of having to deal with smart Alecks and ADHDs in class, teaching is still an enchanting and addictive vocation.

 

The teachers who are with us today represent but a fraction of the pool of scholars, tutors, researchers that our country has. While De La Salle University is blessed that we have within our midst teachers who have the credentials, the expertise, and the character to take on the vocation, we are disturbed by the reality that we do confront, as a country, a serious problem with regard to the overall teaching workforce. These problems include the continuous deficiency of teachers in basic education, particularly in the public school. We also know that a number of our tutors, in both the public and private schools, especially those who has less materially endowed, are not provided the opportunities to continually update themselves and are compelled at times to handle courses that fall beyond their specialization. Equally disturbing is the paltry compensation that teachers receive in many public and even private institutions. While DLSU could readily boast that our faculty are among the better compensated, their take home pay still pales in comparison to the much more handsome material rewards that their contemporaries in industry receive. Many teachers, particularly those at the basic education level, have joined the ranks of our overseas Filipino workers, trooping to more advanced economies.

 

Though I know a number of your teachers may have given you a "hard time," with all the requirements given, the difficult examinations, or the grades that you felt you did not deserve, or the all too human faults that they exhibit in class, I can assure you that like your parents, they have no other interest in mind than to prepare you for the life that awaits you. Join me in applauding and showing our appreciation and gratitude to your teachers who are with us today.

 

Someone said that the best way to show appreciation for the good that another person has done to us is to pay it forward, to commit the same goodness towards others. In this regard, and for those who have the calling, do take on the challenge of a noble and eternally rewarding profession. Teaching is not a monopoly of teachers. So take the plunge and share with others the gift of knowledge and wisdom that you have received generously from your mentors.

 

Dear graduates, I leave with you one last course requirement: tomorrow, in celebration of World Teachers' Day take the time to write a note or send a text message to at least five teachers in La Salle who have made a difference in your life. Log on to www.teachersday. ph and post a message for those who took the time to walk with you in your journey of learning. And for all of us here present, pass on the message. Every Filipino has a teacher, take the time to thank those who give of themselves to you through the noble vocation of teaching. Tomorrow, let us join the nationwide campaign to celebrate World Teachers' Day by greeting our teachers and encouraging them in their vocation. And for you, beloved teachers, let me leave with you the promise and guarantee of Sacred Scripture: "Those who teach many unto justice, shall shine like stars forever."

 

 

wow man!!!!! this is really INTELLECTUAL SOURGRAPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[xxio]

I can see the sourgraping. I'm still looking for the intellectual part.

 

To my DLSU friends can't you see the road that Pumaren and Bro. Armin have taken your bball program down. I agree it has produced championships at what price? Has it produced La Salle students who reflect the values of DLSU? If a student sees pep-tests being altered for him, if he sees his coach and now their president talk and constantly make excuses like this doesn't it leave a bad taste in your mouths? How many of your Varsity players ending up graduating from college in less than 6 years? From what my DLSU supporter uncle told me maswerte na kung umabot ng 70% maka graduate at all, tapos translation studies and sports managment pa?

 

When Enrico was King Eagle, I found him too ill-tempered and getting goaded and baited and biting into Yeo's style I decried his style of play. When Lipa would curse his players and the refsI expressed my sentiments that these are kids, di dadpat sila minumura and the refs are doing their jobs, complain yes, pagalitan siguro pero murahin?

 

I have been to games and I have heard Coaches Pumaren and Santiago, especially Santiago. It is a disgrace what comes out of their mouths.

 

I am nothing in the ADMU community but when I decry acts like these and others see and follow suit maybe change will occur. I hope you guys see this.

 

I wish the ADMU vs DLSU rivalry to flourish because it is fun, but not at the cost of the future of either school's vision and the futures of these student-athletes.