Nso Matters, Dfa Matters, Citizenship, Travel, Passports Etc

[mr_kindred23]

Legitimate naman usually yang service na provided ng travel agency sa pagkuha birth certificate. May form yan sila, lagay mo name of person, date of birth, place of birth, father's name and mother's name. Ilalagay rin don kung late registered birth. Pero puede lang ito pag may copya ng birth certificate niya sa NSO, pag wala, wala rin lalabas. P 275 charge sa Filinvest stall nito na travel agency, pag sa office ibang travel agency naman, usually mas mataas.

 

 

 

ok thanks po for the info...thanks

[antahimik]

patulong naman po, ang birth certificate ko sa local registry at sa baptismal, 28 ang nakalagay na birth date ko, sa NSO ay malabong 2 or 3 at malinaw na 0 kaya sinabi na ang birthdate ko daw ay 30. nagamit ko since then ay 28 kayamga records ko is 28, kayo mas matimbang daw ang NSO copy. i'm having difficulty kumuha ng passport. saan po ba ko pupunta, sino lalapitan ko, anu-ano ba gagawin ko para mabago ang record ko sa NSO?

 

salamat po sa mga magre reply

[rocco69]

Punta ka kay Dir. Lourdes Hufana sa NSO office sa EDSA cor. Times Street (malapit sa Quezon Ave ito). Sa kanya ka humingi ng tulong. Pag di nagawan ng paraan ni Dir. Hufana, mahihirapan ka at kakailanganing mag-file ng kaso sa korte pag edad ang maiiba sa birth certificate.

 

patulong naman po, ang birth certificate ko sa local registry at sa baptismal, 28 ang nakalagay na birth date ko, sa NSO ay malabong 2 or 3 at malinaw na 0 kaya sinabi na ang birthdate ko daw ay 30. nagamit ko since then ay 28 kayamga records ko is 28, kayo mas matimbang daw ang NSO copy. i'm having difficulty kumuha ng passport. saan po ba ko pupunta, sino lalapitan ko, anu-ano ba gagawin ko para mabago ang record ko sa NSO?

 

salamat po sa mga magre reply

[ThUgZtaH]

Re: Birth Certificates

 

Situation:

 

A child was born to parents, who were both 17 years old at the time of birth, but in the birth certificate the ages were "18". Moreover, by coercion of their parents, the young couple were "married" by a local public official but also changed a few entries in the marriage certificate, which is by my assumption already made said marriage null and void due to incorrect/falsified entries.

 

After 4 years, this couple now of legal age, were 'united again' this time at a church, thereby legitimizing their child.

 

Now the question is, how can the child's birth certificate entries (re: age of parents at the time the child was born & date of marriage of parents) be corrected and what legal repercussions can arise from this?

[antahimik]

Punta ka kay Dir. Lourdes Hufana sa NSO office sa EDSA cor. Times Street (malapit sa Quezon Ave ito). Sa kanya ka humingi ng tulong. Pag di nagawan ng paraan ni Dir. Hufana, mahihirapan ka at kakailanganing mag-file ng kaso sa korte pag edad ang maiiba sa birth certificate.

 

di naman po mababago ang edad, just a matter of 2 days only, birth date of 28 in the local registry copy of my birth certificate, to 30 in the NSO copy. sino po ba itong si Dir. Lourdes Hufana, madali po ba syang lapitan? ano sasabihin ko para malapitan sya? may bayad din ba ito or public service?

 

salamat po uli

[rocco69]

magbabago edad mo (babata ka by two days), ayun sa Section 2[3] ng RA 9048, anumang pagbabago na mag-iinvolve ng edad ay di pwedeng sa Civil Registrar lang (ibig sabihin, sa korte ang punta mo).

 

Si Dir. Hufana ay Director ng Civil Registration Department ng NSO. Sabi ko nga before, pag di niya magawan ng paraan yang kaso mo, sa korte talaga ang punta mo niyan.

 

Madali siyang lapitan at napakabait nyan.

 

Public service yan, at trabaho nga nila yan sa NSO na mag-ayos ng mga ganyang problema (or at the very least, i-advice ka kung ano ang dapat mong gawin). Punta na!

 

di naman po mababago ang edad, just a matter of 2 days only, birth date of 28 in the local registry copy of my birth certificate, to 30 in the NSO copy. sino po ba itong si Dir. Lourdes Hufana, madali po ba syang lapitan? ano sasabihin ko para malapitan sya? may bayad din ba ito or public service?

 

salamat po uli

[redax]

magbabago edad mo (babata ka by two days), ayun sa Section 2[3] ng RA 9048, anumang pagbabago na mag-iinvolve ng edad ay di pwedeng sa Civil Registrar lang (ibig sabihin, sa korte ang punta mo).

 

Si Dir. Hufana ay Director ng Civil Registration Department ng NSO. Sabi ko nga before, pag di niya magawan ng paraan yang kaso mo, sa korte talaga ang punta mo niyan.

 

Madali siyang lapitan at napakabait nyan.

 

Public service yan, at trabaho nga nila yan sa NSO na mag-ayos ng mga ganyang problema (or at the very least, i-advice ka kung ano ang dapat mong gawin). Punta na!

Hinde ba dapat correction of copy of birth certificate ito sa NSO? Dapat kasi yung NSO rineregister yung copya ng birth certificate ng Local Civil Registry. Pagnalaman nila na mali yung date of birth na linagay nila sa copya nila, hinde ba dapat icorrect nila.

[rocco69]

ang kopya ng NSO ay galing sa Local Civil Registrar. Pinapadala lamang ito ng Civil Registrar sa kanila (kung kaya't wala silang nilalagay na date of birth sa kung anumang dokumento), in fact, kung kumukuha ka ng NSO-certified na birth certificate, mapapansin mo na xerox copy din lang ito (sine-xerox lang on security paper yung kopya na nasa NSO [na galing din sa Civil Registrar]).

 

Note: Sa paggawa ng birth certificate, ito ay ginagawa in 4 copies (one copy ay sa magulang napupunta, one copy sa Civil Registrar, one copy sa NSO, at one copy sa hospital/midwife etc.), pagsubmit ng birth certificate sa Civil Registrar, ifoforward ng Civil Registrar sa NSO yung isang kopya.

 

dahil galing din lang sa Civil Registrar yung kopya na nasa NSO, nagkakaroon ngayon ng question kung bakit magkaiba ang entry sa kopya na nasa NSO, at yung kopya na naiwan sa Civil Registrar (ang problema pati, ang presumption ay mas tama yung kopya na nasa NSO kesa dun sa kopya na nasa Civil Registrar - dahilan daw na mas walang motibo na baguhin ng mga taga-NSO yung kopya na nasa kanila, samantalang mas madaling mabago yung nasa Civil Registrar dahil mas madaling lapitan ang taga-munisipyo kesa sa taga-NSO).

 

however, posible namang kasalanan ng taga-NSO o taga-Civil Registrar yan, dahil nga malabo yung kopya na nasa NSO - kaya nga, mas magandang makiusap muna siya kay Dir. Hufana para dito, at baka pumayag ang NSO na magpakuha na lang ng klarong kopya mula sa Civil Registrar.

 

Hinde ba dapat correction of copy of birth certificate ito sa NSO? Dapat kasi yung NSO rineregister yung copya ng birth certificate ng Local Civil Registry. Pagnalaman nila na mali yung date of birth na linagay nila sa copya nila, hinde ba dapat icorrect nila.

[rocco69]

lumalabas na sinadya yung mga "errors" sa birth certificate, kung kaya hindi ito "typographical error" na maco-correct sa Civil Registrar lang. Kailangan na sa korte ito ipa-correct. Problema mo, merong falsification dito.

 

Anyway, kung may kakilala sa Local Civil Registrar, subukan niyo munang palabasin na typographical error ito, kung sakaling makalusot, wala na kayong problema.

 

however, pag di kinaya, talagang sa korte kayo pupunta para ipa-correct ito.

 

Re: Birth Certificates

 

Situation:

 

A child was born to parents, who were both 17 years old at the time of birth, but in the birth certificate the ages were "18". Moreover, by coercion of their parents, the young couple were "married" by a local public official but also changed a few entries in the marriage certificate, which is by my assumption already made said marriage null and void due to incorrect/falsified entries.

 

After 4 years, this couple now of legal age, were 'united again' this time at a church, thereby legitimizing their child.

 

Now the question is, how can the child's birth certificate entries (re: age of parents at the time the child was born & date of marriage of parents) be corrected and what legal repercussions can arise from this?

[knoll1234]

whether you are visiting, living or an immigrant or just passing by saudi arabia, australia, italy, germany , USA, canada, mexico, chile etc., some legal issues arises because of the differences in customs, traditions and political make up of that country. Legal help is non existent for pinoys that may cause us our freedoms and rights as individuals and as a human being.

[knoll1234]

here's one. I happened to bring fresh mangoes on a bag to the united states of america. Port of entry was San Francisco. The customs guy asked if I had fruits and plants, I said yes ( I should have said no and nothing would have happened), the guy said ' go to line C', i said okey. the inspector opened my bag and , said hey you got mangoes, I said yes, then he said this is not allowed. I said since when. Then he said read this pamplet. he handed me a pamplet ( Which was also given on the plane but ignored it by not reading it). Then , he said i am going to confiscate these 6 mangoes, and throw it away. I said why, waste it. It has travelled 7 thousand miles already only to be dumped. I asked, is there a legal recourse I can take it with me. There is, but it is too late, I should have declared it a long time before coming and there are certain rules and fees involved just to have that done. So I did not pursue the issue, and the mangoes got tossed to the garbage can. Since I am only visiting USA, I did not want to be denied entry so I just kept my mouth shut. This is just an example of some nuances in legal issues that occur during travel abroad. I know before and maybe now, you can be denied entry to KSA if you have a rosary in your bag!!

[knoll1234]

bringing your kids, minors, can be a hustle , to visit canada, usa or australia. I happened to travel on a philippine passport with 2 kids minors ( these countries differ in minority ages) to visit cairns in australia ( I have a white australian friend in kuranda inviting us for a vacation). My spouse was not travelling with me, so I was asked for a waiver!???!declaring I am free to travel with my kids. I am not divorsed or anything. It took my several hours before they could let me it. what a hustle, we missed our flights onward and shortened my trip because of this incident. I was 'paroled' because my australian friend explained to the officers that we were there only for a visit.

[knoll1234]

in england do not consult solicitors yet..go to a trusted kababayan. better still go to the catholic charities for help

[Arneeious]

Does anyone have information on the requirements for passport application for a Filipino baby born in India? Both parents are Filipinos. Thanks. (this is for a friend of mine).

[ct05]

mga sir/s! may tanong lang po ako. May inaaplyan kasi ako na work abroad, kaso hinihingan nila ako ng job description dun sa isang company na pinagtrabahuan ko before. Ilang beses na ako pumunta at nangulit dun sa dati kong pinagtratrabahuan pero di daw sila nagbibigay job description. Nung kinausap ko po yung agency ko, Magpagawa na lang daw ako ng affidavit or statement na ndi nga ako makakapgsubmit ng Job description kse nga di nagrerelease yung dating employer ko. QUESTION: may affidavit po ba na ganun? thanks!

[redblack]

here's one. I happened to bring fresh mangoes on a bag to the united states of america. Port of entry was San Francisco. The customs guy asked if I had fruits and plants, I said yes ( I should have said no and nothing would have happened), the guy said ' go to line C', i said okey. the inspector opened my bag and , said hey you got mangoes, I said yes, then he said this is not allowed. I said since when. Then he said read this pamplet. he handed me a pamplet ( Which was also given on the plane but ignored it by not reading it). Then , he said i am going to confiscate these 6 mangoes, and throw it away. I said why, waste it. It has travelled 7 thousand miles already only to be dumped. I asked, is there a legal recourse I can take it with me. There is, but it is too late, I should have declared it a long time before coming and there are certain rules and fees involved just to have that done. So I did not pursue the issue, and the mangoes got tossed to the garbage can. Since I am only visiting USA, I did not want to be denied entry so I just kept my mouth shut. This is just an example of some nuances in legal issues that occur during travel abroad. I know before and maybe now, you can be denied entry to KSA if you have a rosary in your bag!!

 

Do understand, it is not cultural that caused the confiscation of your mangoes; it is more a right of a country to regulate its agricultural industry as a measure of self-protection. It is a countries right to prohibit the transport of any foods (meats or vegetables) from one country to another to prevent the transfer of any form of infestation or pathogen from one country to another. Thus, not only mangoes are prohibited, any form of fruit is prohibited, unless it runs through the proper import channels and after proper inspection by the US DA.

 

If I remember any mango coming from the Philippines is actually absolutely prohibited from entering the US, except for those coming from the island of Guimaras. A worm infestation in mangoes hit Asia a while back and it affected the Philippines. The Philippine government was only able to prevent the infestation from reaching Guimaras. So now the US government only allows Philippine mangoes that have been grown in Guimaras to enter the US. That's why it is also quite expensive when it does reach the US. Try bringing in a mango from any other part of the Philippines into Guimaras and they will confiscate it also once you enter the island. It is the provincial government's way of protecting its own mango industry from outside infestation.

 

The Philippines actually has a similar law but our customs officials are not strict in its implementation as made evident by the proliferation of the bringing in of food stuffs from Thailand and China by tourists.

 

About your KSA experience, I don't know about that, I haven't been there.

[Immortal666]

I noticed something wrong with my birth certificate. My mother's maiden last name was incorrectly encoded and it appears as the same as my father's middle name. So the result is that my middle name does not match my mother's maiden last name in my birth certificate. Will this pose as a problem if I apply for a passport?

[rocco69]

No. The DFA is only concerned with your first name, middle name and surname as they appear in your birth certificate. A passport has to follow the official name of the applicant, which is the name (first, middle, and surname) that appears in your birth certificate. All the other entries in your birth certificate are basically irrelevant to your passport application. However, this might cause problems for some other applications (SSS, GSIS, etc.). you can have this corrected by applying for correction of entry with the Civil Registrar of the place where your birth was registered.

 

I noticed something wrong with my birth certificate. My mother's maiden last name was incorrectly encoded and it appears as the same as my father's middle name. So the result is that my middle name does not match my mother's maiden last name in my birth certificate. Will this pose as a problem if I apply for a passport?

Edited November 12, 2010 by rocco69

[jombratero]

Hi peeps,

 

Would like to ask your help on this matter:

 

A friend of mine has a younger sister who wants to go to Japan as an entertainer, but due to the fact that she is underage during the time of application, she used her elder sister's document in order to get a passport. She was able to get the passport, with her elder's sister identity. However, she was not able to go to Japan due to some reason. Now, her elder sister wants to get a passport using her real identity. Well, of course she does not want to sue her younger sister for using her identity.

 

Questions:

1) Would there be problems if the elder sister will apply for passport using her real identity? The records will say that she already has a passport.

2) Can her younger sister apply for a passport under her real identity? The passport that bears her elder sister's name is still unexpired.

 

Please help me on what to do or who to talk to. Thanks!

[mhim101]

i lost my passport..

whats the quickest way to get another one...?

 

 

thanks in advance

[angel_aishteru]

ask lng po

 

ive gven birth 2 my daughter and registered her under my surname.nw ung tatay gus2 ilipat s lastname nya but we’re not married.wat i want 2 knw,is it legal n iffile nmin sxa ng l8 registration kung san q pnanganak bb q.

[rocco69]

start applying for a new one NOW! If you're in Metro Manila, go to epassport.com.ph

 

If you're not in Metro Manila, go NOW to a regional consular office (see list at http://dfa.gov.ph/main/index.php/about-the-dfa/rp-embassies-consulates-a-rcos/regional-consular-offices)

 

i lost my passport..

whats the quickest way to get another one...?

 

 

thanks in advance

[rocco69]

1) Would there be problems if the elder sister will apply for passport using her real identity? The records will say that she already has a passport.

 

Yes, there will be problems (not really for her, for her younger sister). siyempre, dahil lalabas na may gumamit na ng pangalan niya sa passport, kailangan muna niyang patunayan na siya nga talaga yung taong yun. medyo madali naman ito dahil yun naman talaga ang totoo. afterwards, makakakuha na siya ng passport. ang problema, yung kapatid naman niya ang sasabit.

 

pag-apply nung tao ng passport, lalabas na may passport na na-issue sa pangalan niya (pero iba ang mukha ng nag-apply para dito). dalawa ang options niya:

 

OPTION 1 - sabihin na hindi niya kilala kung sino yun (medyo kaduda-duda rin ito dahil kalimitan, ang gumagamit ng ibang pangalan para sa passport application ay kamag-anak din nung taong ginamit ang pangalan, mas me problema pag magkamukha sila ng kapatid niya).

 

pag sinabi nyang di niya kilala, siyempre magkukunwari siyang galit siya sa tao na yun - mapipilitan siya ngayong magharap ng demanda laban sa tao na yun (or at the very least, gumawa ng sworn statement na gagamitin naman ng DFA sa paghabla sa tao na yun)

 

OPTION 2 - aminin na kapatid niya ang gumamit. ganun din ang resulta - mapipilitan siyang gagumawa ng sworn statement na gagamitin naman ng DFA sa paghabla sa kapatid nya

 

criminal offense ang pagkuha ng passport gamit ang pangalan ng iba (see Section 19 and [c], RA No. 8239). kakasuhan ang gumawa nito ng DFA ng violation ng batas (ang problema pa, kung ang address na ginamit niya sa application ay talagang address ninyo, madaling ma-trace yang kapatid mo).

 

 

2) Can her younger sister apply for a passport under her real identity?

 

Yes, kung di pa nagkaka-alaman tungkol sa ginawa niyang katarantaduhan.

pag nagka-alaman na, at alam na siya ang gumawa, sabi sa Section 8(a3) ng RA 8239 na ang sinong lumabag sa batas na yun ay maaaring ma-deny ng pasport application (altho sa palagay ko naman, bago ito mag-apply kailangan na ma-convict muna siya). Alalahanin din niya - pag siya ay nag-apply, binibigyan niya ang DFA ng datos na maaaring gamitin laban sa kanya, i.e. kung nagka-alaman na na may anomalya sa passport na ginamit niya, dapat na siyang magtago, bakit siya pa mismo ang pupunta dun sa mga taong naghahanap na sa kanya?

anyway, kung di naman mag-aapply yung kapatid niya, hindi ito lalabas (yun nga lang, di makakakuha ng passport yung kapatid niya)

 

MORAL LESSON: Wag mag-gawa ng iligal, lalo na sa passport, mabigat ang parusa ng batas laban sa mga pumepeke nito.

 

 

 

Hi peeps,

 

Would like to ask your help on this matter:

 

A friend of mine has a younger sister who wants to go to Japan as an entertainer, but due to the fact that she is underage during the time of application, she used her elder sister's document in order to get a passport. She was able to get the passport, with her elder's sister identity. However, she was not able to go to Japan due to some reason. Now, her elder sister wants to get a passport using her real identity. Well, of course she does not want to sue her younger sister for using her identity.

 

Questions:

1) Would there be problems if the elder sister will apply for passport using her real identity? The records will say that she already has a passport.

2) Can her younger sister apply for a passport under her real identity? The passport that bears her elder sister's name is still unexpired.

 

Please help me on what to do or who to talk to. Thanks!

Edited December 4, 2010 by rocco69

[rocco69]

iligal ang "late registration" kung rehistrado na ang bata. isang beses lang dapat ma-rehistro ang isang tao. ito ay magiging falsification of public documents.

 

MAARI NA PO NGAYONG GAMITIN NG ISANG ANAK SA LABAS ANG APELYIDO NG KANYANG AMA (RA No. 9255) - HINDI NYO NA KAILANGANG MAGPA-LATE REGISTRATION PARA MAILIPAT ANG APELYIDO DUN SA AMA!!!

 

Pumunta kayo (parehong magulang, magdala ng patunay sa inyong pagkakakilanlan, i.e. magdala ng ID) sa Civil Registrar kung saan naka-rehistro ang bata. Ikwento nyo ang gusto nyong mangyari dun at magtanong kung ano ang kailangang gawin para mailipat na sa apelyido ng ama yung bata (actually, pagagawin lang yung ama ng Affidavit to Use Surname of the Father, tapos ibibigay ito sa Civil Registrar, kasama amg kaukulang kabayaran - wala nang libre ngayon).

 

 

 

ask lng po

 

ive gven birth 2 my daughter and registered her under my surname.nw ung tatay gus2 ilipat s lastname nya but we’re not married.wat i want 2 knw,is it legal n iffile nmin sxa ng l8 registration kung san q pnanganak bb q.

[jombratero]

Thanks so much rocco69, for the explanation of the matter.. So as the way you say it, mukhang there is no choice but for her younger sister to face the consequences of her actions. The reason she used her elder's sisters identity was she was underage during that time and she wants to work abroad. However, she never went abroad and currently she is on the right age already. Do you someone who can arrange this type of problems? Of course the elder sister doesnt want to her younger sister to get into trouble.

Thanks!

 

 

 

1) Would there be problems if the elder sister will apply for passport using her real identity? The records will say that she already has a passport.

 

Yes, there will be problems (not really for her, for her younger sister). siyempre, dahil lalabas na may gumamit na ng pangalan niya sa passport, kailangan muna niyang patunayan na siya nga talaga yung taong yun. medyo madali naman ito dahil yun naman talaga ang totoo. afterwards, makakakuha na siya ng passport. ang problema, yung kapatid naman niya ang sasabit.

 

pag-apply nung tao ng passport, lalabas na may passport na na-issue sa pangalan niya (pero iba ang mukha ng nag-apply para dito). dalawa ang options niya:

 

OPTION 1 - sabihin na hindi niya kilala kung sino yun (medyo kaduda-duda rin ito dahil kalimitan, ang gumagamit ng ibang pangalan para sa passport application ay kamag-anak din nung taong ginamit ang pangalan, mas me problema pag magkamukha sila ng kapatid niya).

 

pag sinabi nyang di niya kilala, siyempre magkukunwari siyang galit siya sa tao na yun - mapipilitan siya ngayong magharap ng demanda laban sa tao na yun (or at the very least, gumawa ng sworn statement na gagamitin naman ng DFA sa paghabla sa tao na yun)

 

OPTION 2 - aminin na kapatid niya ang gumamit. ganun din ang resulta - mapipilitan siyang gagumawa ng sworn statement na gagamitin naman ng DFA sa paghabla sa kapatid nya

 

criminal offense ang pagkuha ng passport gamit ang pangalan ng iba (see Section 19 and [c], RA No. 8239). kakasuhan ang gumawa nito ng DFA ng violation ng batas (ang problema pa, kung ang address na ginamit niya sa application ay talagang address ninyo, madaling ma-trace yang kapatid mo).

 

 

2) Can her younger sister apply for a passport under her real identity?

 

Yes, kung di pa nagkaka-alaman tungkol sa ginawa niyang katarantaduhan.

pag nagka-alaman na, at alam na siya ang gumawa, sabi sa Section 8(a3) ng RA 8239 na ang sinong lumabag sa batas na yun ay maaaring ma-deny ng pasport application (altho sa palagay ko naman, bago ito mag-apply kailangan na ma-convict muna siya). Alalahanin din niya - pag siya ay nag-apply, binibigyan niya ang DFA ng datos na maaaring gamitin laban sa kanya, i.e. kung nagka-alaman na na may anomalya sa passport na ginamit niya, dapat na siyang magtago, bakit siya pa mismo ang pupunta dun sa mga taong naghahanap na sa kanya?

anyway, kung di naman mag-aapply yung kapatid niya, hindi ito lalabas (yun nga lang, di makakakuha ng passport yung kapatid niya)

 

MORAL LESSON: Wag mag-gawa ng iligal, lalo na sa passport, mabigat ang parusa ng batas laban sa mga pumepeke nito.