Obadi Kane Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 The best wrestler pound for pound for me (plus the best stage presence, bar none) is none other than the "ROCK". He's got the moves, the mic work, everything man. He's funny and abrasive at the same time. Great sarcasm. Plus he can kick take out his can of whop ass anytime! Your right m_a I think they're grooming your boy orton to be the next big thing. Quote Link to comment
PrettyboyPOPOY Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 The best wrestler pound for pound for me (plus the best stage presence, bar none) is none other than the "ROCK". He's got the moves, the mic work, everything man. He's funny and abrasive at the same time. Great sarcasm. Plus he can kick take out his can of whop ass anytime! Your right m_a I think they're grooming your boy orton to be the next big thing. So???? Please elaborate this one! :evil: Quote Link to comment
Victor Davion Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Yep, that Orton i think he's hot - and he's only 23, which means he has all the time in the world to improve on his mat and mic work and come out as the prized WWE superstar that he's born to be Now that you've pointed out that Orton is the next big thing, I cannot help but think he is being setup following the same formula they did with the Rock. The Rock started out as Rocky of the Nation of Domination. Soon he took over the group and eventually dismissed that sorry lot of jobbers (funny how d-lo's career took off when he went to NWA). They had Rock feud with Farok (sorry 4got they proper spelling), Austin, and then Mick Foley. Looking at Randy right now, he is the only one of Evolution still holding some bling bling after Trips started jobbing for Shelly and Bastista and Flair got beat by Edge and Beniot. It wouldn't surprise me that now Randy has beaten Mick Foley, he might start taking on Trips for the evolution's leadership. After he finishes with Trips, it is the Rock cycle all over again. Good Pick MA, good pick :cool: Quote Link to comment
MA Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Now that you've pointed out that Orton is the next big thing, I cannot help but think he is being setup following the same formula they did with the Rock. The Rock started out as Rocky of the Nation of Domination. Soon he took over the group and eventually dismissed that sorry lot of jobbers (funny how d-lo's career took off when he went to NWA). They had Rock feud with Farok (sorry 4got they proper spelling), Austin, and then Mick Foley. Looking at Randy right now, he is the only one of Evolution still holding some bling bling after Trips started jobbing for Shelly and Bastista and Flair got beat by Edge and Beniot. It wouldn't surprise me that now Randy has beaten Mick Foley, he might start taking on Trips for the evolution's leadership. After he finishes with Trips, it is the Rock cycle all over again. Good Pick MA, good pick :cool: Why, thank you Thony I think it's quite obvious how they're fawning over Orton...he's a character and if packaged right, he can be the next Rock - no doubt about it. I'm actually nanghihinayang with Batista. With his rock-hard body and devilish looks, he can be something as well. I hope that when Evolution finally disintegrates, he'll be given good matches versus the big guys of WWE. The likes of Kane, maybe. Now Edge is definitely someone I'd want to see compete in the heaveyweight title matches. I think he's the bomb and he'll give the World Heavyweight Champ a run for his money...and title Quote Link to comment
s3cr3tiv3 Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Why, thank you Thony I think it's quite obvious how they're fawning over Orton...he's a character and if packaged right, he can be the next Rock - no doubt about it. I'm actually nanghihinayang with Batista. With his rock-hard body and devilish looks, he can be something as well. I hope that when Evolution finally disintegrates, he'll be given good matches versus the big guys of WWE. The likes of Kane, maybe. Now Edge is definitely someone I'd want to see compete in the heaveyweight title matches. I think he's the bomb and he'll give the World Heavyweight Champ a run for his money...and title i agree with you MA about Batista... he should be given more opportunities to rise in the business... it's kinda obvious that he can take on anybody in the Raw roster and win (yes, even Kane)... If Batista becomes world champion, it's possible that we might again see a Triple H-like reign as world champion... how long was he world champion again? Quote Link to comment
Victor Davion Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 I'm actually nanghihinayang with Batista. With his rock-hard body and devilish looks, he can be something as well. I hope that when Evolution finally disintegrates, he'll be given good matches versus the big guys of WWE. The likes of Kane, maybe. Hehehehe, I think I saw Batista in porn movies produced under the Private Label. Ofcourse I might be wrong because the credits didn't mention a Dave Bautista. Oh well, with his looks, his body and his mic skills, he does seem to fit well in the European porn business Quote Link to comment
s3cr3tiv3 Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 Hehehehe, I think I saw Batista in porn movies produced under the Private Label. Ofcourse I might be wrong because the credits didn't mention a Dave Bautista. Oh well, with his looks, his body and his mic skills, he does seem to fit well in the European porn business maybe he used a different screen name... :evil: Quote Link to comment
madmutt Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 i don't know if WWE will market Batista as a strong player in the individual ranks. i really see that they are pouring everything to Orton. "Legend Killer" is very pronounced....i wonder when will he fight Flair or Triple H....they are legends in their own right. hopefully, by this year Evolution will die a natural death. i'm really having a deja vu here, its like the old 4 horsemen of WCW or even D-X where Triple H was also part of. why o why does it have to be always in groups of 4. only the Ministry and Nation of Domination had a bigger number of members. ano kaya ma-revive ang Ministry ni Taker? hmmmm la lang pwede na kasi ulit, patay na siya e. Quote Link to comment
Victor Davion Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 The original DX only had two members (well three if you count Ms. Laurie AKA Chyna). The Corporation I believed had more members and the Hart Foundation has Brett, Brian Pillman, Owen, Anvil and the Bulldog. Quote Link to comment
gwapogi Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 yeah, wwe is molding its 3rd generation franchise players now... for raw, indeed, randy orton is being mold as the next "Rock", however, his mike skills still pale in comparison to the Rock (yeah, he'll get better) that's why he's still hanging on with evolution. also, he should develop some "power" moves - like in basketball - he's sort of a tweener between a cruiserweight and a heavyweight-styled wrestler... ...or, he could stick as he is and be the next shawn michaels / bret hart... not-so-big guys who became champions and legends in their own right... which brings me to... smackdown's john cena... he's famous, he's cool, yeah, but he's one "good" push away from being a franchise player (HHH, Rock, Austin, Michaels)... just can't wait for something like a 'taker/cena feud... he'll be a legend... Quote Link to comment
Victor Davion Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 yeah, wwe is molding its 3rd generation franchise players now... for raw, indeed, randy orton is being mold as the next "Rock", however, his mike skills still pale in comparison to the Rock (yeah, he'll get better) that's why he's still hanging on with evolution. also, he should develop some "power" moves - like in basketball - he's sort of a tweener between a cruiserweight and a heavyweight-styled wrestler... ...or, he could stick as he is and be the next shawn michaels / bret hart... not-so-big guys who became champions and legends in their own right... which brings me to... smackdown's john cena... he's famous, he's cool, yeah, but he's one "good" push away from being a franchise player (HHH, Rock, Austin, Michaels)... just can't wait for something like a 'taker/cena feud... he'll be a legend... Didn't Cena feuded with the Taker already? I remember one video angle set in a graveyard where he peed all over a tombstone with the Taker's name on it. I wasn't much of a smackdown fan then, and I ain't really one now. Cena is cool, he has a lot of good mic skills. I just think that he should have a better move set. It seems like he wrestles like the Rock, where there is an automatic sequence of money moves he pulls off before the FU. I'd like to see him pull off some new moves every now and then. It was great when every now and then the Rock will pull off a Samoan drop out of nowhere or even a powerbomb (very rare, only saw him do it twice in his entire career). Quote Link to comment
MA Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 Didn't Cena feuded with the Taker already? I remember one video angle set in a graveyard where he peed all over a tombstone with the Taker's name on it. I wasn't much of a smackdown fan then, and I ain't really one now. Cena is cool, he has a lot of good mic skills. I just think that he should have a better move set. It seems like he wrestles like the Rock, where there is an automatic sequence of money moves he pulls off before the FU. I'd like to see him pull off some new moves every now and then. It was great when every now and then the Rock will pull off a Samoan drop out of nowhere or even a powerbomb (very rare, only saw him do it twice in his entire career). I loooove John Cena! :* Actually he's one of the reasons I watch Smackdown. The others being Eddie Guerrero and Torrie Wilson I think he should be in RAW. Not only is he an interesting watch inside the ring, his mic work is just as skillfull as his moves. Anyhoo, I was watching RAW early on and I must say I was disgusted with the way Orton disrespected Harley Race by spitting on his face. I mean I like Orton...I think he's hot...but frankly, I think he's taking his "Legend Killer" act to disgusting heights. It could be in his script or something, but couldn't he do away with spitting? One more thing, I would love to see Edge and The Game Triple H slug it out one-on-one in the ring soon Quote Link to comment
Victor Davion Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 One more thing, I would love to see Edge and The Game Triple H slug it out one-on-one in the ring soon That'll be a good match. An Edge vs. Randy will also be exciting to watch. Better yet make it a match for the IC belt and you'll really see sparks fly. I really hope Triple H will defeat HBK in the HELL IN A CELL match so that he can have a rematch with Benoit. I'm not used to seeing him without the bling bling for a long duration. And then when Triple H gets the title back, the WWE can have Edge challenge him for it. :evil: Quote Link to comment
fatso8 Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 An Edge vs. Randy will also be exciting to watch. Better yet make it a match for the IC belt and you'll really see sparks fly. I really hope Triple H will defeat HBK in the HELL IN A CELL match so that he can have a rematch with Benoit. I'm not used to seeing him without the bling bling for a long duration. And then when Triple H gets the title back, the WWE can have Edge challenge him for it. :evil: 2 weeks from now the Orton vs Edge match will be shown on Raw (Solar). I think Trips will win the HIAC match.. I believe they're setting up aTrips-Benoit match for Summer Slam. Quote Link to comment
Victor Davion Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Heck yeah, I want to see Triple H be his old dominating self again. It has been a long time since I last seen Triple H lay the smackdown on somebody. The back to back jobbing to Shelly was disappointing for me. Beniot's reign as the champ ain't going to be lasting long. :evil: Quote Link to comment
s3cr3tiv3 Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Heck yeah, I want to see Triple H be his old dominating self again. It has been a long time since I last seen Triple H lay the smackdown on somebody. The back to back jobbing to Shelly was disappointing for me. Beniot's reign as the champ ain't going to be lasting long. :evil: i agree... granted that Chris Benoit is a really excellent wrestler, but he just doesn't have the presence of Triple H. hey, I caught Raw this week on Solar, and I saw Triple H talking to a plant instead of Eric Bischoff... it was kinda funny, but I'm glad he beat Tajiri... Quote Link to comment
Cookster Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 one good thing to happen in the WWE.... D-Generation will be back headed by Shawn Michaels and will be getting Triple H's Evolution... Cool yun...kaso si Jesse James nasa TNA na eh tsk! Quote Link to comment
madmutt Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 (edited) i really hope we see Evolution die within the next few months. but a great scenario will be that The Game will regain the title then have himself held high as the WWE's elite. then, somewhere between Summerslam and the next main PPV, Orton becomes the number 1 contender for the title. of course, as part of Evolution, Triple H will ask Orton to just lose....of course this will create friction and ultimately create a faction between all of them. my best bet Flair will back The Game, while Batista will back Orton. TADA!!!! Orton...instant good guy!!! prediction ko (sana magkatotoo...)Orton will fight Triple H by Survivor Series. (pure speculation but you got to admit maganda ang script ko) Ang sarap talaga mag-speculate ng script para sa WWE lalo na sa RAW. sa SD ang iniisip ko lang palitan na ang mga HEEL (anti-hero)....gawa ulit si Taker ng grupo niya na parang The Ministry tapos lapdog niya si Show. hehehe natatawa ako kapag iniisip ko. tapos, ibabalik na si Hogan sa SD para maging bad boy ulit...kasi kailangan nila ng panghatak ng ratings...hehehehe Edited May 30, 2004 by madmutt Quote Link to comment
Victor Davion Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 i really hope we see Evolution die within the next few months. but a great scenario will be that The Game will regain the title then have himself held high as the WWE's elite. then, somewhere between Summerslam and the next main PPV, Orton becomes the number 1 contender for the title. of course, as part of Evolution, Triple H will ask Orton to just lose....of course this will create friction and ultimately create a faction between all of them. my best bet Flair will back The Game, while Batista will back Orton. TADA!!!! Orton...instant good guy!!! prediction ko (sana magkatotoo...)Orton will fight Triple H by Survivor Series. (pure speculation but you got to admit maganda ang script ko) Ang sarap talaga mag-speculate ng script para sa WWE lalo na sa RAW. sa SD ang iniisip ko lang palitan na ang mga HEEL (anti-hero)....gawa ulit si Taker ng grupo niya na parang The Ministry tapos lapdog niya si Show. hehehe natatawa ako kapag iniisip ko. tapos, ibabalik na si Hogan sa SD para maging bad boy ulit...kasi kailangan nila ng panghatak ng ratings...hehehehe Heya Muttie If you love speculating about the direction the WWE is taking, you should check out this little gem: http://www.400softwarestudios.com/tew/tew_overview.php I've been playing this sucker for weeks, ofcourse I have to download the real world rosters from the forum, but it is worth it. Imagine the ability to operate the WWE as you see fit, booking all the matches, deciding the story angles. Wow! Quote Link to comment
_eRon_ Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 bad trip si Randy Orton, dinuran nya ung WWF hall of famer..bastos, dudes.. :grr: astig ang mic skills ni eddie guerrero..laging ginagaya ng tropa ko.. wawa si angle nilaglag ni big show...psycho talaga yun.. nawala na ulit si nick foley & si stone cold.. Quote Link to comment
madmutt Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Heya Muttie If you love speculating about the direction the WWE is taking, you should check out this little gem: http://www.400softwarestudios.com/tew/tew_overview.php I've been playing this sucker for weeks, ofcourse I have to download the real world rosters from the forum, but it is worth it. Imagine the ability to operate the WWE as you see fit, booking all the matches, deciding the story angles. Wow! hey, thanks dude.... i already know this di ko lang matiis hintayin madownload ang rosters. masaya naman sumali sa discussion sa forum nila e. pero mas love ko MTC :mtc: naks sipsep!!! Quote Link to comment
MA Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 i really hope we see Evolution die within the next few months. but a great scenario will be that The Game will regain the title then have himself held high as the WWE's elite. then, somewhere between Summerslam and the next main PPV, Orton becomes the number 1 contender for the title. of course, as part of Evolution, Triple H will ask Orton to just lose....of course this will create friction and ultimately create a faction between all of them. my best bet Flair will back The Game, while Batista will back Orton. TADA!!!! Orton...instant good guy!!! prediction ko (sana magkatotoo...)Orton will fight Triple H by Survivor Series. (pure speculation but you got to admit maganda ang script ko) Ang sarap talaga mag-speculate ng script para sa WWE lalo na sa RAW. sa SD ang iniisip ko lang palitan na ang mga HEEL (anti-hero)....gawa ulit si Taker ng grupo niya na parang The Ministry tapos lapdog niya si Show. hehehe natatawa ako kapag iniisip ko. tapos, ibabalik na si Hogan sa SD para maging bad boy ulit...kasi kailangan nila ng panghatak ng ratings...hehehehe Loooove it!!! I can't wait to see the Intercontinental title match between Orton and Edge :boo: And yea, Triple H winning the Heavyweight champ belt again would be lovely. I like Benoit but I really think he's not charismatic enough to sustain the fans' attention But Mutty, isn't Hogan too old na to wrestle? Does he still have the following that made him one of the most sought-after superstar during his prime? Quote Link to comment
Novice Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 bad trip si Randy Orton, dinuran nya ung WWF hall of famer..bastos, dudes.. :grr: astig ang mic skills ni eddie guerrero..laging ginagaya ng tropa ko.. wawa si angle nilaglag ni big show...psycho talaga yun.. nawala na ulit si nick foley & si stone cold.. Mick Foley fought in Japan recently for the triple crown, it's a highly coveted title there. Nakalimutan ko na lang yung name nung Japanese na kinalaban niya. Nandun din sila Kevin Nash and Scott Hall. Part sila ng Takada Monster Team. Real shootfighters go on to puroresu pro-wrestling in Japanese, kasi less stress sa katawan and mas mataas ang bayad. Plus, maganda din ang mga storyline nila sa DSE/Zero-One promotion na Hustle ang pangalan. If you want quirk in your storyline, you should try watching Japanese pro-wrestling. P.S. Goldberg is signed with DSE kaso nga lang na injure siya kaya si Mick Foley ang pumalit. Stone Cold is also being lured to sign for DSE, but this is just a rumor. Quote Link to comment
fatso8 Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Mick Foley fought in Japan recently for the triple crown, it's a highly coveted title there. Nakalimutan ko na lang yung name nung Japanese na kinalaban niya. Nandun din sila Kevin Nash and Scott Hall. Part sila ng Takada Monster Team. Real shootfighters go on to puroresu pro-wrestling in Japanese, kasi less stress sa katawan and mas mataas ang bayad. Plus, maganda din ang mga storyline nila sa DSE/Zero-One promotion na Hustle ang pangalan. If you want quirk in your storyline, you should try watching Japanese pro-wrestling. P.S. Goldberg is signed with DSE kaso nga lang na injure siya kaya si Mick Foley ang pumalit. Stone Cold is also being lured to sign for DSE, but this is just a rumor. Novice... Mukhang dami ka alam about Jap wrestling... May alam ka ba na available vids d2 sa Pinas? Esp. ung IWA KOTDM '95. Tnx. Quote Link to comment
fatso8 Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 i really hope we see Evolution die within the next few months. but a great scenario will be that The Game will regain the title then have himself held high as the WWE's elite. then, somewhere between Summerslam and the next main PPV, Orton becomes the number 1 contender for the title. of course, as part of Evolution, Triple H will ask Orton to just lose....of course this will create friction and ultimately create a faction between all of them. my best bet Flair will back The Game, while Batista will back Orton. TADA!!!! Orton...instant good guy!!! prediction ko (sana magkatotoo...)Orton will fight Triple H by Survivor Series. (pure speculation but you got to admit maganda ang script ko) Ang sarap talaga mag-speculate ng script para sa WWE lalo na sa RAW. sa SD ang iniisip ko lang palitan na ang mga HEEL (anti-hero)....gawa ulit si Taker ng grupo niya na parang The Ministry tapos lapdog niya si Show. hehehe natatawa ako kapag iniisip ko. tapos, ibabalik na si Hogan sa SD para maging bad boy ulit...kasi kailangan nila ng panghatak ng ratings...hehehehe According to rumors... The plan is to have Trips turn face.. & for Evolution to continue as Raw's top heel group. This time with Orton as the pointman. They were suppose to add another member (Maven, i think) but I don't know why this plan didn't push thru. ( Cguro dahil naubos superstars ng Raw) The Raw brand is currently touring England... In 1 house show, Edge turned on the crowd & became a heel because his opponent, Ric Flair, got a huge pop from the crowd... Flair eventually won with the figure 4. Quote Link to comment
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