Suicidal Lovers

[tabouki]

Reality check. We are in the Philippines. Everyone is here for profit. Suicide hotlines? Do you think that those hotlines will help us and do those even work? Seriously that is like hitting a brick wall. If the customer service of other countries is being outsourced to other countries, ano naman kaya kung suicidal american ka tapos ang sumagot sa hotline eh.. Indian?

 

I will feel more suicidal that way. Its just a joke pero thats the reality now in our greedy world.

 

Yes, they should seek professional help. But what if that professional help is only here for the profit as well and is dragging on your sessions para maka make siya ng profit?

 

Lets not think about it but I strictly suggest people looking for a real psych to double check and look for the credentials.

Hope that helps.

 

oo. commercialized na lahat ngayon.

 

da best ay magising sila sa katotohanan na "its over!" let go, move on.

[Steppenwolf]

i think women are more pre-disposed to this because of their tendency to be emotionally dependent and attached to another person. somehow they need another person to be emotionally stable. so when that person exits their lives, the very foundation of their emotional stability gets hit directly resulting to extreme depression and, thus, the suicide. so one technique in handling them is to make them leave you instead of you leaving them...or, dont give the bad news outright. make her deal with it gradually.

 

some women though are strong enough to transcend that tendency. good for them.

 

an ex tried to k*ll herself by taking a bottle of sleeping pills and by slashing her wrists. she survived and i heard that she is happy now with a new guy.

[easyhard]

May nakilala ako sa PGH Intern pa lang sila mga mid 90s pa. Strong yung personality ng girl pero may suicidal tendencies. She swallowed an insecticide after having a fight with her co-intern Boyfriend. Kawawa yung lalaki dahil parang double edged sword and nakaharap sa kanya. Alam ko gusto na niiyang makipag-hiwalay sa girl pero hindi niya magawa dahil alam niyang very capable of commitinng suicide yung babae. Kung hindi naman niya hiwalayan, he will be stuck.

 

In short, they married and had a son. But the marriage did not last long. The girl was involved with a surgical resident and another pa ata. The last thing I heard she was rushed to Manila Doctors mga 5 or more years ago dahil sa isang attempt ulit. Haay Buhay! Love knows no boundaries.

[Dr Love]

So ... yes. I agree that we need to monitor a suicidal person very closely ... however, that monitoring should be done at the right intensity - so as not to make them feel that we dont trust them and we think that any moment they will go off and k*ll themselves.

 

But more than anything, it pays to be more watchful over those people who dont say anything, and who act as if everything is all right. Those are the ones who are most likely to succeed in committing suicide ... because they wont even bother to announce it. They just go ahead and do it, and more often than not, others find out when it is too late.

 

The kind of monitoring I am talking about is actually watching their non-verbals more than their verbal signs. However, doing it is not easy. "Reading the signs" is something hard to do. Sometimes, even those who have studied how to do it still fails to anticipate or see it coming. Why? For the simple reasons that the human psyche is so complex that its impossible to anticipate or read all its actions. You cant predict with certainty when one "will snap and commit suicide!" One can only be vigilant and conscious of the telltale signs.

[Wyld]

The kind of monitoring I am talking about is actually watching their non-verbals more than their verbal signs. However, doing it is not easy. "Reading the signs" is something hard to do. Sometimes, even those who have studied how to do it still fails to anticipate or see it coming. Why? For the simple reasons that the human psyche is so complex that its impossible to anticipate or read all its actions. You cant predict with certainty when one "will snap and commit suicide!" One can only be vigilant and conscious of the telltale signs.

 

 

In the context of the thread topic though ... Suicidal Lovers. This kinda implies that the other party threatens suicide because the other party is breaking the relationship up.

 

Were not really talking about Suicide per se here but suicide in that context. The issue that the threadstarter wants to discuss is ... when a person claims that he or she will commit suicide IF his or her loved one breaks up with her ... should we take that seriously or not?

 

An argument for it would be exactly what you said - that we cant tell what a person would do when he or she snaps...

 

Another argument would be that proclamation of suicide is just that - a proclamation given out to stop the break up from happening.

 

Bottom line though is its a human life were talking about here. I dont think suicide is a thing to be taken lightly. However, it should not be overly dramatized too... as that would be encouraging a negative behavior (threatening suicide) which might be just that - a threat.

 

Fine line ... very fine line.

[Boysbe]

Hay, It depends on what a type of suicidal person a person is. For example, me. I had been longing to die for a long time, since childhood I had been in counciling all the time. I have a very depressing lifestyle, been having broken relationships, a lot actually, a broken family, no good friends, a hellish childhood with beatings, people trying to make you someone that your not. Been drinking and smoking a lot since then,but not much now, yet as far as im concerned, I never had the guts to push a knife down my chest or even cut my arms. Probably im more of an adrenaline rush type of guy. You really cant monitor a person with suicidal tendency because often times they walk and talk as if everything is normal, they smile, they laugh but deep inside, they have a deathwish. I been a sacristan before but after mass i would go to frat meetings and gangwars,everyday is an adventure. Most of the time I do counciling to other guys like me. God, I sometimes wish to be hit by a car while walking home, but i just try to do my best and just work hard in life. Life is short, and if you get lucky, you might get a little bit more. Why is it that some people who just gets dumped suddenly rushes to a nearby razor then open themselves up? Its because they often are quitters, those who had a good childhood, spoiled, wealthy then all of a sudden a little bump on the road then they commit suicide. They dont know that some of us had a bit more rough experience in life than most others but still they try to improve their lives. If you really want to die, just wait for it, death comes to those who wait, but dont k*ll yourself just because a little bump on the road happens, your still lucky, think of others who had more bumps than yours.

 

Reality check. We are in the Philippines. Everyone is here for profit. Suicide hotlines? Do you think that those hotlines will help us and do those even work? Seriously that is like hitting a brick wall. If the customer service of other countries is being outsourced to other countries, ano naman kaya kung suicidal american ka tapos ang sumagot sa hotline eh.. Indian?

 

I will feel more suicidal that way. Its just a joke pero thats the reality now in our greedy world.

 

Yes, they should seek professional help. But what if that professional help is only here for the profit as well and is dragging on your sessions para maka make siya ng profit?

 

Lets not think about it but I strictly suggest people looking for a real psych to double check and look for the credentials.

Hope that helps.

 

THose who offer suicidal offers should be the ones who commit suicide.

 

Do you really want to know how to spot a suicidal to those who just act like they want to die, but actually they just want publicity or "nakikiuso"? Its simple actually, I had this gf who claimed she was suicidal, I saw marks on her body and she was indeed in a very depressing lifestyle, so what i did was I took her out, then I brought her to a nearby airport, which was abandoned, then I drove really fast then asked her, do you really want to die? Bahala ka!, I stepped on the accelerator, We were driving near 70-90 kmph when she just yelled stop, I dont ok...then she broke into tears, a couple of days had past, she broke up with me, so a couple of years I heard she recently graduated, top of her class, now had a stable job and a promising career. Moral of the lesson is, you really wont appreciate life not until you saw death straight in the face. Offer her a razor, then ask her, do you really want to die? then do it!do it! in a couple of minutes she'll cry then move on. Its the simple things in life that we forget.

 

But for me, its still a part of life to die, its inevitable. I never fear dying, being a suicidal, I just try to study, work hard, play hard.

[Dr Love]

That's one creative though crazy way of trying to find out if the person is indeed suicidal. However, if one doesnt have a car and an abandoned airport or a clear area to drive 70-90KPH, you will never know if he/she is suicidal or not.

 

Besides, what if he/she is indeed suicidal? Unless you are suicidal yourself, you'll definitely slow down, drive out of the abandoned airport and bring that person beside you in the car home. :evil:

 

THose who offer suicidal offers should be the ones who commit suicide.

 

Do you really want to know how to spot a suicidal to those who just act like they want to die, but actually they just want publicity or "nakikiuso"? Its simple actually, I had this gf who claimed she was suicidal, I saw marks on her body and she was indeed in a very depressing lifestyle, so what i did was I took her out, then I brought her to a nearby airport, which was abandoned, then I drove really fast then asked her, do you really want to die? Bahala ka!, I stepped on the accelerator, We were driving near 70-90 kmph when she just yelled stop, I dont ok...then she broke into tears, a couple of days had past, she broke up with me, so a couple of years I heard she recently graduated, top of her class, now had a stable job and a promising career. Moral of the lesson is, you really wont appreciate life not until you saw death straight in the face. Offer her a razor, then ask her, do you really want to die? then do it!do it! in a couple of minutes she'll cry then move on. Its the simple things in life that we forget.

 

But for me, its still a part of life to die, its inevitable. I never fear dying, being a suicidal, I just try to study, work hard, play hard.

[UNDergroundX]

That's one creative though crazy way of trying to find out if the person is indeed suicidal. However, if one doesnt have a car and an abandoned airport or a clear area to drive 70-90KPH, you will never know if he/she is suicidal or not.

 

Besides, what if he/she is indeed suicidal? Unless you are suicidal yourself, you'll definitely slow down, drive out of the abandoned airport and bring that person beside you in the car home. :evil:

 

Yep. We all have different ways to fix problems.

[iwalkalone]

Hay, It depends on what a type of suicidal person a person is. For example, me. I had been longing to die for a long time, since childhood I had been in counciling all the time. I have a very depressing lifestyle, been having broken relationships, a lot actually, a broken family, no good friends, a hellish childhood with beatings, people trying to make you someone that your not. Been drinking and smoking a lot since then,but not much now, yet as far as im concerned, I never had the guts to push a knife down my chest or even cut my arms. Probably im more of an adrenaline rush type of guy. You really cant monitor a person with suicidal tendency because often times they walk and talk as if everything is normal, they smile, they laugh but deep inside, they have a deathwish. I been a sacristan before but after mass i would go to frat meetings and gangwars,everyday is an adventure. Most of the time I do counciling to other guys like me. God, I sometimes wish to be hit by a car while walking home, but i just try to do my best and just work hard in life.

 

 

and what type of a suicidal person are you?....You have a deathwish but you never had the guts to hold anything sharp against your skin?

you wish to get hit by a car...but you walk as safely and carefully on pedestrian lanes?

Darling you are not suicidal....you are a goth...you'd rather hurt others than hurt yourself...(frat meetings and gangwars,everyday?)

 

 

Do you really want to know how to spot a suicidal to those who just act like they want to die, but actually they just want publicity or "nakikiuso"? Its simple actually, I had this gf who claimed she was suicidal, I saw marks on her body and she was indeed in a very depressing lifestyle, so what i did was I took her out, then I brought her to a nearby airport, which was abandoned, then I drove really fast then asked her, do you really want to die? Bahala ka!, I stepped on the accelerator, We were driving near 70-90 kmph when she just yelled stop, I dont ok...then she broke into tears, a couple of days had past, she broke up with me

 

If she was really suicidal...you should have done that test while she was at her lowest....i betcha....you won't be here posting anymore

 

BTW...if she hadn't yelled "STOP!"....what would you have done??

[simple_chinito]

Kung para ikakabuti naman ang gagawin ko na pag-alis eh go pa din ako. Di ko na kasalanan kung magpakamatay siya noh

[UNDergroundX]

If she was really suicidal...you should have done that test while she was at her lowest....i betcha....you won't be here posting anymore

 

BTW...if she hadn't yelled "STOP!"....what would you have done??

 

If she didnt yell stop, then he wouldnt be posting here anymore.

[iwalkalone]

If she didnt yell stop, then he wouldnt be posting here anymore.

SO I GUESS YOU'RE SAYING HE'S SUICIDAL TOO HUH?

I'D LIKE TO SEE HIS ANSWER ON THIS ONE

[epFDee]

If she was really suicidal...you should have done that test while she was at her lowest....i betcha....you won't be here posting anymore

 

BTW...if she hadn't yelled "STOP!"....what would you have done??

 

if she hadn't yelled "STOP" at 90kph... maybe he'd stop at around 130kph

[Boysbe]

If she was really suicidal...you should have done that test while she was at her lowest....i betcha....you won't be here posting anymore

 

BTW...if she hadn't yelled "STOP!"....what would you have done??

 

Then I wont stop,after a 120 i know she will just faint, try driving fast,after a couple of minutes youll get a headache, and as with her case,that would probably be the case, to that guy who kept asking if she hadnt yelled stop then ill still continue,thats why its an abandoned airport,how many miles do you think is that? you can turn and drift all you want, and if you read my post very clearly,I said I was Suicidal,, so if she dint say stop,she'll probably faint or she wouldnt want a nut like me joining her die,would she? so obviously she will say stop, if you dont have a car then bring her some clorox, fill it up with water, then dare her to drink it, I bet you she wont.

[Boysbe]

If you read my post very clearly, I clarified that I am suicidal, , but I wont let someone who would risk her life just to have a certain guy or girl, consensya ko pa yan..and obviously they would have a better future than me,At least that goes to show how a nut I really am.