Build A Model Body!

[BrotchaCrotcha]

In fact, most of our members do not even live near our gym.  We have at least 6 who work at the ABS-CBN building (that houses Fitness First and Fitness Advantage) yet they drive all the way to Malate to be trained by us.

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E bat nung pumunta ako sa Malate Branch ninyo dalawa lang ang tao. Isang lalaki at isang babae. Tatlong beses na ako dumaan duon. Mantakin mo, peak hours yun at weekdays pa nung pumunta ako. Sabi nung mama duon may soft opening na daw sa La Salle at may nagbubuhat na daw duon. Ako naman si Tanga pumunta ng La Salle. Abay pano ka makakapagbuhat duon e under construction pa kayo. Nasa 2nd floor ang gym pero yung info booth ninyo nasa lobby sa ground floor. Walang tumatao.

 

Bago mo sana pintasan ang ibang mga gym sana naman siguraduhin mong di ka sasablay. Napakaunethical ng ginagawa mo. Pinipintasan mo ang ibang gym. OK fine pero nung pinopromote mo naman ang gym nyo, biglang pumangit ang dating. Hindi lang isang beses mo ginagawa yan at hindi lang isang gym ang tinitira mo. Parang lumalabas hinahatak mo sila pababa para ikaw ang umangat. Yan ba ang paraan mo ng pagnenegosyo? Isa pa, napakacrowded ng gym nyo sa Malate. Hindi crowded kasi maraming tao ha. Crowded kasi ang liit liit na nga nung lugar pinuno nyo pa ng malalapad na treadmills. May weights section nga kayo, e mas malaki pa yung hardcore section dito sa binubuhatan ko sa may palengke. Adios!

[Eclipseguy]

E bat nung pumunta ako sa Malate Branch ninyo dalawa lang ang tao. Isang lalaki at isang babae.  Tatlong beses na ako dumaan duon.  Mantakin mo, peak hours yun at weekdays pa nung pumunta ako.  Sabi nung mama duon may soft opening na daw sa La Salle at may nagbubuhat na daw duon.  Ako naman si Tanga pumunta ng La Salle.  Abay pano ka makakapagbuhat duon e under construction pa kayo.  Nasa 2nd floor ang gym pero yung info booth ninyo nasa lobby sa ground floor.  Walang tumatao.

 

Bago mo sana pintasan ang ibang mga gym sana naman siguraduhin mong di ka sasablay.  Napakaunethical ng ginagawa mo.  Pinipintasan mo ang ibang gym.  OK fine pero nung pinopromote mo naman ang gym nyo, biglang pumangit ang dating.  Hindi lang isang beses mo ginagawa yan at hindi lang isang gym ang tinitira mo.  Parang lumalabas hinahatak mo sila pababa para ikaw ang umangat.  Yan ba ang paraan mo ng pagnenegosyo?  Isa pa, napakacrowded ng gym nyo sa Malate.  Hindi crowded kasi maraming tao ha.  Crowded kasi ang liit liit na nga nung lugar pinuno nyo pa ng malalapad na treadmills. May weights section nga kayo, e mas malaki pa yung hardcore section dito sa binubuhatan ko sa may palengke.  Adios!

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Can I ask you something? Have you ever been to other gyms? Everyone puts their treadmills side-by-side. Ours are so wide in the usage area that we've never had a complaint about their proximity to one-another. The people who have made comments such as these have never been a gym member before, based on our past experience. I don't know if you were or not, but this fits the profile of someone we've experienced. Since last week we've moved a bunch of cardio pieces over to EGI so the "crowding" at the main branch is not as it was last week.

 

Besides...last time I checked it's better to have too much equipment than not enough. :thumbsupsmiley:

 

Also, EGI was built based on surveys of students at LaSalle and CSB who go to gyms already. Also, we had to "soft open" because quite a few students wanted to use the weights, even if the lockers were not ready. As far as I'm concerned, I consider this to be going above and beyond our members' expectations if we let them use the facilities at that stage, even if we are technically not ready. This is the whole purpose of the context of "service".

 

Also, with respect to ethics for many, the truth hurts. Eclipse is no nonsense and we tell it like it is. Most people who want results expect to be told what to do, i.e. motivated. When I was a consumer before I was a director, I loved it when someone in my position spoke their mind and didn't pull any punches. I don't know anyone alive who wouldn't appreciate it if a CEO stuck their neck out, for better or for worse. I am not trying to win a popularity contest. I'm trying to demonstrate that if you care about this industry, you should do what it takes to get the word out, even if you piss off some people along the way.

 

The vast majority appreciate the effort, for better or worse. I have always challenged other gym managers to get out of their air-conditioned offices hidden in the back of the facility and get their hands "dirty" with the rest of us. Where are they? If they don't like what I'm saying, maybe they'd do something to fix their faults.

 

Believe it or not, Eclipse NEEDS Fitness First, Gold's, Slimmers World, etc. But we need them to fix their broken systems first.

[Eclipseguy]

And for those who call me "unethical", I'll say this:

 

I am a lifetime member of Slimmers World. I cannot train there due to lack of proper equipment and their hours stink on the weekend.

 

I'm a platinum member of Golds, with 6 months left on my membership. As before, they lack proper (and inexpensive) equipment that was requested by many other members...like 2.5lb plates. They also made me very angry on many other occasions and they were the "last straw" before I got so upset that my investors and I formed Eclipse.

 

Finally I was a member of Fitness First. They overbilled me for many months and tried to refuse to give me a refund, even when I produced a termination letter in writing. I had to escalate it to the regional director to get it fixed. It has been over a month and they have still not refunded my credit card. I really didn't like Fitness First as a member. Everyone there used to ask me for training advice, yet would get mad at me when I said that they couldn't get significant results on FF equipment. I only worked out there because my girlfriend who lived in Acropolis talked me into moving to Eastwood and FF was the only gym at the time.

 

So for all those who say I'm being "unethical", walk in my shoes as a former VERY dissatisfied member of these 3 gyms. Again, it was their actions that got me so fired up and angry. I learned at a young age that if I see a problem and I do nothing to fix it, then I AM THE PROBLEM.

 

I intend to fix it so that others can avoid the frustration I've felt.

[Wyld]

SEVERAL POSTS ARE CLEARLY OFF TOPIC HERE.... I WONT NAME WHICH ONES BUT IM PRETTY SURE YOU KNOW WHAT THESE ARE.

 

ILL LET THEM STAY UP AND ILL LET THIS THREAD STAY OPEN FOR A FEW MORE DAYS TO SEE IF YOU GUYS WILL STOP THE FIGHTING.

 

THANK YOU FOR IGNORING A MOD WARNING.

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[Eclipseguy]

Purely back to the topic at hand:

 

If you are trying to gain size and strength, you MUST eat 5-6 meals per day, striving to gain 1-2 lbs of weight per week. If you do not gain at least 1lb per week on average, you need to eat more. You cannot expect to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. While it’s possible, you should instead focus on getting as big and strong as possible. Remember that you don’t see models or actors who are well-built during the off-season when they tend to gain fat while trying to gain muscle. You only see them during their photo shoots after they’ve spent 6 months bulking then dieting/cutting to reveal six-pack abs and chiseled chest, shoulders, and legs. If your shirt or jeans aren’t getting tighter or the scale is not increasing, or especially you are not breaking personal records in the gym, you need to be eating more. When I began training I was the skinniest guy in the gym at 5’10" and 115lbs. I bulked up to as high as 210lbs until dieting down to my photoshoot-ready weight of about 175lbs with 6% bodyfat. This gives a measurement of 29" waist and 42" chest. My current off-season weight is about 185-190lbs. The point is that when I want to get bigger or stronger, I have learned that gaining a few extra pounds of fat is to be expected and helps keep you injury free.

 

Also, there's no such thing as a guy who can squat 315lbs who doesn't have a killer 8 pack when lean. Such an individual just doesn't exist. The added bonus, is that ladies love the quads and butt that comes from a guy who can squat 315. This, I can guarantee :hypocritesmiley:

[cassio]

You only see them during their photo shoots after they’ve spent 6 months bulking then dieting/cutting to reveal six-pack abs and chiseled chest, shoulders, and legs.

 

If you look at the candid pics in showbiz mags, you won't see those chiseled bodies. You'll see really skinny actresses and fat actors.

 

It's all in the power of cosmetics and photography that these actors/actresses look good.

 

Also, there's no such thing as a guy who can squat 315lbs who doesn't have a killer 8 pack when lean.  Such an individual just doesn't exist.  The added bonus, is that ladies love the quads and butt that comes from a guy who can squat 315.  This, I can guarantee  :hypocritesmiley:

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315 - 210 = 105lbs to go for my squats!

 

But doesn't deadlift also contribute to killer abs? Last time I did 260lbs max reps, I felt my shoulders and abs go numb. Btw, I did 6 reps and I'm looking forward to the 315lbs negative.

 

-cassio

[Olympus]

I think the main problem here is that most poeple want to hear the answers they want to hear, not what they need to hear....

 

Think of Eclipseguy being the Simon Cowell of fitness, you love him or hate him. You need someone to balance out all the nice talk some coaches would give you.

[cassio]

I think the main problem here is that most poeple want to hear the answers they want to hear, not what they need to hear....

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This is very true. A lot of people in other forums have asked me how I made progress and when I tell them to revamp their whole routine, they just leave and never come back.

 

I find it really pointless for some people to ask but are not willing to listen.

 

-cassio

[Olympus]

OT: I'll be in eclipse today roughy 2pm-10 m anyone who wants to meet and greet, share and exchange ideas will be welcome to do so

[Eclipseguy]

This is very true.  A lot of people in other forums have asked me how I made progress and when I tell them to revamp their whole routine, they just leave and never come back.

 

I find it really pointless for some people to ask but are not willing to listen.

 

-cassio

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Welcome...I hope you got a good laugh at the earlier stuff

[Eclipseguy]

If you look at the candid pics in showbiz mags, you won't see those chiseled bodies.  You'll see really skinny actresses and fat actors.

 

It's all in the power of cosmetics and photography that these actors/actresses look good.

315 - 210 = 105lbs to go for my squats!

 

But doesn't deadlift also contribute to killer abs?  Last time I did 260lbs max reps, I felt my shoulders and abs go numb.  Btw, I did 6 reps and I'm looking forward to the 315lbs negative.

 

-cassio

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So how did you feel after the Tiero method? I know I'm sore today. Deadlifts help as well to achieve abs....but for deadlifts, you'll really feel it once you get near 365 for reps. Deadlifts really helps with the obliques.

 

Later when I get the Jumpstretch bands, it will be a completely new experience. These bands cause you to keep accelerating even as you reach the top of the movement for something like squats. Normally, when lifting, you subconsciously slow your acceleration as you near the end of the movement. The bands create a huge amount of instability...and seeing how the job of your core muscles is for stability, they take a beating during squats with Jumpstretch bands.

[cassio]

Welcome...I hope you got a good laugh at the earlier stuff 

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It's quite a long thread and I'm running out of popcorn!

 

Btw, I've been seeing a lot of Holy Kettle Corn carts sprouting all over. Is too much of such popcorn good or bad for you?

 

-cassio

[cassio]

So how did you feel after the Tiero method?  I know I'm sore today.  Deadlifts help as well to achieve abs....but for deadlifts, you'll really feel it once you get near 365 for reps.  Deadlifts really helps with the obliques.

 

Later when I get the Jumpstretch bands, it will be a completely new experience.  These bands cause you to keep accelerating even as you reach the top of the movement for something like squats.  Normally, when lifting, you subconsciously slow your acceleration as you near the end of the movement.  The bands create a huge amount of instability...and seeing how the job of your core muscles is for stability, they take a beating during squats with Jumpstretch bands.

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I think that was my 4th day of doing tri-sets.

 

I don't feel as sore as my previous days..

 

I just noticed that on my 7th set, I was starting to lose concentration. Anyway, I finished 10 sets for all exercises.

 

FYI for other readers on the board, I'm doing tri-sets right now. It's alternating Squats, Bench and Dynamic Rows with 75sec rest in between for 10 sets. Weights yesterday was 155, 130, 180lbs respectively. I find this more intense than running for long hours or even doing HIIT.

 

-cassio

[Eclipseguy]

It's quite a long thread and I'm running out of popcorn!

 

Btw, I've been seeing a lot of Holy Kettle Corn carts sprouting all over.  Is too much of such popcorn good or bad for you?

 

-cassio

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Holy Kettle Corn? It must be a Cubao thing

 

Popcorn is high-glycemic so it will spike your blood sugar if you eat it without a source of protein, sabotaging your weight loss efforts. This is one of those times to have a protein shake handy to drink a little before you enjoy your popcorn...and this entertaining thread to go with it

[JesusFreak!]

Thing is, if I let one person air his side, and the other person air his... it wont ever end.

 

Thats what were here for (Mods)... to nip arguments in the bud while we can.. and hopefully maintain peace in the threads.

 

I hope you dont mind that I did what I did.

 

Now.. can we move on please?

 

Salamat.

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Yup, thanks for patching things up... we really appreciate your presence here... well moving on... :mtc: