Eclipseguy Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 well... people are very intimidated in hard training.. thinking its not for them.. but hard training is very relatice to the capacity of the individual... and yes, genetics does play a vital role in whether or not youll get a model body... i like overcoming genetics though... im genetically fat... but id like to believe otherwise... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly..."hard" is a relative thing. It's also why most of my guys love 5 rep strength training but loathe every moment of a 10x10 or a 6x10. It's also why I teach women Olympic lifting, since it doesn't produce a localized pump. Women usually don't like a pump in their arms and legs....especially when looking in the mirror But we are talking about building a model body, and if people don't want to do all that it takes...especially naturally, they shouldn't be reading this thread Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 okay... so i take it that running for an hour is bad? i mean if i wanted to run for an hour, will you guys tell me not to do it?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> It will depend on your reason for doing so. If you'll run for an hour to "get ripped" I'll say skip it. If you're doing it to prepare to run from your girlfirend who saw you making out with a hot chick in embassy last wekend, by all means do so Quote Link to comment
Eclipseguy Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 okay... so i take it that running for an hour is bad? i mean if i wanted to run for an hour, will you guys tell me not to do it?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe once a week (at the most) for sh*ts and giggles, but anymore than that isn't necessary. Even then, make sure you do it HIIT style. Quote Link to comment
Equus Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 One lesson learned is you have to make a person "love" something that they'll do it no matter how hard it is. Its something you have to build on. The only people I push starting frm day 1 are the people who ask for it.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> true true... one big mistake of people who love what they do is that more often than not they mistake other people to have the same feeling towards it... oh well... back to topic though, It would have been really nice if we can have someone who went the cardio way and another who went the HIIT way and see which one gets to have a model body first... now that would be interesting... Quote Link to comment
Equus Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Maybe once a week (at the most) for sh*ts and giggles, but anymore than that isn't necessary. Even then, make sure you do it HIIT style.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> well, if i were to do an hour cardio a week, id probably do it because i want to know if i can or not... The idea of being able to run long distances at any time whenever you feel like it is a good feeling... Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 true true... one big mistake of people who love what they do is that more often than not they mistake other people to have the same feeling towards it... oh well... back to topic though, It would have been really nice if we can have someone who went the cardio way and another who went the HIIT way and see which one gets to have a model body first... now that would be interesting... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> One good way is to have another trainer or coach who uses that school of thought use it on one of his students and then post before and after pics for us to see Quote Link to comment
Eclipseguy Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 One lesson learned is you have to make a person "love" something that they'll do it no matter how hard it is. Its something you have to build on. The only people I push starting frm day 1 are the people who ask for it.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly. And those who don't want to work...well I just leave them alone. I had a girl join last week who didn't want abs, tone, or anything else. Even the idea of any work at all on the treadmill gave her a look of fear. I just talked to her while maintaining eye contact...backing away...out of the room slowly.... There are some people who join the gym but do not feel pleasure from exercise. There's nothing we can do for them but leave them be, as you well know. If they want to hang around and pay dues, there's nothing wrong with that Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Charles Staley said it best that many people are "polarized by pain" Quote Link to comment
Eclipseguy Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 One good way is to have another trainer or coach who uses that school of thought use it on one of his students and then post before and after pics for us to see <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have mine in Total Woman magazine...complete with dated before and after We'll have about 30 LaSalle before and afters on the Eclipse website within the next few weeks....and at least 4 have modeling offers or have recently signed with an agency. Josh, Gaston, Ja (well...an indecent proposal from one of my neighbors ), Alfred, A.R., and Max. The rest of the guys just transformed themselves to beyond what they expected....all with a combination of strength and HIIT/Tabata conditioning. None of these guys had abs before...now they all have 6 packs worthy of Bruce Lee...as A.R. has been dubbed Quote Link to comment
Equus Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 i tend to pick my students as well... i have a great work out routine... i usually let them pay 12 thousand pesos in advance for 6 weeks of training... if they miss even a single training sessiom, that cash is mine... but if they complete everything and they get results and they manage to lose a few pounds and stay on a healthy lifestyle, i give them all their money back... its a hobby of mine... Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 I have mine in Total Woman magazine...complete with dated before and after We'll have about 30 LaSalle before and afters on the Eclipse website within the next few weeks....and at least 4 have modeling offers or have recently signed with an agency. Josh, Gaston, Ja (well...an indecent proposal from one of my neighbors ), Alfred, A.R., and Max. The rest of the guys just transformed themselves to beyond what they expected....all with a combination of strength and HIIT/Tabata conditioning. None of these guys had abs before...now they all have 6 packs worthy of Bruce Lee...as A.R. has been dubbed <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly. and then we have Ja, who looks like a wide reciever and Alex who would pass of as Batista's little brother. Quote Link to comment
Equus Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 ive only had 3 people take that deal and they all became devoted gym rats... my other friends thought that i was nuts... Quote Link to comment
Eclipseguy Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 well, if i were to do an hour cardio a week, id probably do it because i want to know if i can or not... The idea of being able to run long distances at any time whenever you feel like it is a good feeling...<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm sure you can. If you do HIIT at least twice a week for 15-20 minutes and can jog/sprint for the intervals, you can smoke most local 5K athletes...and possibly 10K. Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 ive only had 3 people take that deal and they all became devoted gym rats... my other friends thought that i was nuts... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I remember my friend saying this and its a great peice of advice "If yu wanna achieve something you've never achieved before you must be willing to do something you've never done before" Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 Here's another golden word of wisdom that is very insightful to training: "Insanity is also defined as doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results" Quote Link to comment
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