edc Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 As I have said, nobody's perfect.. He may have mishandled the Wizards team or made wrong decisions as the drafting of Kwame Brown.. But honestly, Jordan the player.. ang tinitingnan ng karamihan.. When EDC said that na-diminish ang myth ni Jordan during his tenure sa Wizards.. I would say hindi na diminish but people did not agree on his decisions especially when he came back.. People don't look at his play as a Wizard.. people still look at how he revolutionized BB while wearing the Bulls uni.. coz this is the most important of all of his achievements.. Barkley's statement only proves one thing.. he did not agree when MJ came back.. But his respect for him never waned.. MJ's popularity, his myth can not just be destroyed by some mistakes.. sorry pare.. coz his contributions have all outweighed his imperfections..<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ang pinopoint ko ksi example yung mga friends ko na maka-jordan. nung bumalik si jordan sabi nila playoffs daw sigurado yun ksi hindi lng player si jordan ng wizards executive position pa. magaling daw dumiskarte si jordan. Pero nung pumalya si jordan ang sinasbi ng mga friends ko ok lng ksi greatest player pa rin naman daw eh. ang importante daw yung ginawa ni jordan nung panahon sa bulls. Kso nagyabang na aasenso dw eh wizard eh. As for kwame brown. magaling tlga yun kahit nung highschool pero si jordan may problema bkit pumalya si kwame brown. umiyak si kwame sa practice nung minura ni jordan. bumagsak daw tlga spirit sa kakaasar ni jordan. Quote Link to comment
edc Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Sabi nga ni Scoop Jackson. "There will be another michael jordan but there will never be another Larry Bird" una inisip ko na racist remark yun pero nung nabasa ko yung article ni Scoop kung bakit si Bird mas gusto nya nagets ko na. Yung laro daw ni jordan magagaya daw. Pero si Bird pano mo gagayahin yung moves? yung Court vision? Ang dami puti na naglalaro sa nba pero kahit "shadow" lang ni bird hindi magaya. Bkit para sa akin Greatest Player si Bird? ksi nung panahon ng 80s sobrang grabe competition. Compare nyo competition ng 60s, 70s, 90s sa 80s. Meron na ba player na kagaya ni Bird na sasabihin sa simula ng game sa kalaban nya magiging score nya sa game? Meron ba player na sasabihin nya sa kalaban nya kung saan sya magshoshoot ng game winning shot? Hindi lng na yan sinabi pero nagkakatotoo mga sinasabi nya. Hindi naman mataas tumalon si Bird. Hindi rin Mabilis Tumakbo. Pero bkit Hirap bantayan? Nung first year na dumating si Bird sa NBA hindi pa nya kakampi sila Mchale and Parish. Pero naidala nya sa Eastern Conference yung team nya. Ang record nila nung season 61-21. The Previous year nung wla pa si Bird ang record ng boston 29-53. Nung sophomore season ni Bird dun dumating na si Mchale and Parish dun nagchampion boston. Pero rookie pa lng si mchale nun at pang Apat na taon pa lng ni Parish. Para sa akin kaya hindi greatest player si jordan. Nagchampion sya after 7years nung tumanda na sila magic, bird ,thomas. Yung impact nya sa chicago nung early years nya hindi sa winning eh. Kung nagchampion si jordan nung 80s kahit isa lng sya na greatest player. pero dahil hindi sya nagchampion nung 80s ang twag sa kanya "ARGUABLY the greatest player" Quote Link to comment
knights-dex Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 ah oo. Greatest Athlete agree ako. Yun nga lng meron na mas magaling na athlete sa kanya now si Vince Carter lalo na sa dunks.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>i doubt kung meron na basketball player as of now na nakapantay o nakalagpas na sa ability ni jordan in playing basketball....one smart player who knows how to deal w/ the ball....w/ his teamates and of course the crowd w/out all this...he can't be the greatest player of all time....set aside na natin ung nde sya naging sucessfull team manager...but everyone...evrything start from scratch...as we all know michael jordan was not the first round pick and even bulls did make it to the playoff when bulls acquired jordan......after years pa......kaya it is a learning process and team building....wehehehehehe Quote Link to comment
orionpax Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 (edited) Jordan? the greatest...YUP..hands down.....being the greatest doesnt just include skills and records alone...you have to look at it at the macro level and the impact this man had made for basketball......if 6 rings, 7+ scoring titles, highest career scoring average (regular & post season), acknowledged ambassador of basketball, marketing sensation...etc...if that doesnt make him the greatest? what will? even blunders as Wizards GM wont erode his rep go to any part of this world....most people will associate basketball with 6 letters J-O-R-D-A-N Edited February 16, 2006 by orionpax Quote Link to comment
kanto-terrorist Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 (edited) Sabi nga ni Scoop Jackson. "There will be another michael jordan but there will never be another Larry Bird" una inisip ko na racist remark yun pero nung nabasa ko yung article ni Scoop kung bakit si Bird mas gusto nya nagets ko na. Yung laro daw ni jordan magagaya daw. Pero si Bird pano mo gagayahin yung moves? yung Court vision? Ang dami puti na naglalaro sa nba pero kahit "shadow" lang ni bird hindi magaya. Bkit para sa akin Greatest Player si Bird? ksi nung panahon ng 80s sobrang grabe competition. Compare nyo competition ng 60s, 70s, 90s sa 80s. Meron na ba player na kagaya ni Bird na sasabihin sa simula ng game sa kalaban nya magiging score nya sa game? Meron ba player na sasabihin nya sa kalaban nya kung saan sya magshoshoot ng game winning shot? Hindi lng na yan sinabi pero nagkakatotoo mga sinasabi nya. Hindi naman mataas tumalon si Bird. Hindi rin Mabilis Tumakbo. Pero bkit Hirap bantayan? Nung first year na dumating si Bird sa NBA hindi pa nya kakampi sila Mchale and Parish. Pero naidala nya sa Eastern Conference yung team nya. Ang record nila nung season 61-21. The Previous year nung wla pa si Bird ang record ng boston 29-53. Nung sophomore season ni Bird dun dumating na si Mchale and Parish dun nagchampion boston. Pero rookie pa lng si mchale nun at pang Apat na taon pa lng ni Parish. Para sa akin kaya hindi greatest player si jordan. Nagchampion sya after 7years nung tumanda na sila magic, bird ,thomas. Yung impact nya sa chicago nung early years nya hindi sa winning eh. Kung nagchampion si jordan nung 80s kahit isa lng sya na greatest player. pero dahil hindi sya nagchampion nung 80s ang twag sa kanya "ARGUABLY the greatest player"<{POST_SNAPBACK}> This time, allow me to pick ur bubble... not because it is said by scoop jackson, so it be. cno ba sya para paniwalaan namin?mas gusto ko pa nga si steve kerr kesa kanya. did he came from heaven to say the truth? "There will be another michael jordan but there will never be another Larry Bird" ....hhhmm, pls elaborate more; (dirk nowitzki only needs some few more cockiness to break that scoop's gospel)... so we may conclude that like scoop, Larry Bird's game is sooo good it also makes ur dick hard peace... :goatee: naintriga tuloy ako, rumenta ako ng cd about ur Larry Legend, to know more and to discover why there are Bird worshippers like you....then okey, i got ur point, like michael, he's such a nasty competitor, he never stop doing everything just to win. Both got extreme competetiveness, really a mark of a Great Player. what i really like about him is his creativity, making the most out of what he have; imagine taking a shot from behind the backboard, that's great... Believe me, if im a NBA coach, i will sell my soul just to get players like him. ultimate player, ultimate competitor...but what makes him different from MJ are their physical ability. Michael is born to fly. His mission is to titillate the fancy of basketball fans who love players scorching the highlight reels. Ung kay Bird naman, utakan. he might not fly, he may not do that power slam or break ankles but his playing IQ levels that of Einstein. sarap maging kakampi. But all in all, it depends upon which type of game you want to.. Imagine NBA na walang mga dakdakero, walang MJ, walang kobe, walng Lebron, sa tingin mo, sino manonood ng NBA?baka magsara sila nyan, maybe the few population of ur like, that i like to call fundamentalist. masama din naman kung puro mga pa showtime ang mga players ng liga coz this will be a league of air-heads at mike wannabes at walang no-nonsense player na kagaya ni bird, oscar robertson, jason kidd, etc. na teamwork ang inuuna. in the nutshell, every great player is worthy of his own greatness, no matter what style, no matter how they do it. the players worth lambasting are those highly paid players who didn't give what it takes to fit the billing... those who have the God-given talent but lacks the heart and iron will to call them worthy to be in the league earning easy millions, or those who spoil their fortune wasting it in drugs, alcohols, etc.. there are many.... Darius Miles, Shawn Kemp, Vin Baker, ...or those half-hearted famous high-flying eye-candies who dont give a damn giving their all for the sake of their unfortunate team, like the cousins Vince and Tmac. Edited February 16, 2006 by kanto-terrorist Quote Link to comment
edc Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 (edited) This time, allow me to pick ur bubble... not because it is said by scoop jackson, so it be. cno ba sya para paniwalaan namin?mas gusto ko pa nga si steve kerr kesa kanya. did he came from heaven to say the truth? "There will be another michael jordan but there will never be another Larry Bird" ....hhhmm, pls elaborate more; (dirk nowitzki only needs some few more cockiness to break that scoop's gospel)... so we may conclude that like scoop, Larry Bird's game is sooo good it also makes ur dick hard peace... :goatee: naintriga tuloy ako, rumenta ako ng cd about ur Larry Legend, to know more and to discover why there are Bird worshippers like you....then okey, i got ur point, like michael, he's such a nasty competitor, he never stop doing everything just to win. Both got extreme competetiveness, really a mark of a Great Player. what i really like about him is his creativity, making the most out of what he have; imagine taking a shot from behind the backboard, that's great... Believe me, if im a NBA coach, i will sell my soul just to get players like him. ultimate player, ultimate competitor...<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ang sabi ko lng maganda yung description ni Scoop kay Bird. Kaya nagkaroon sya ng comment na "I'll be honest with you, sometimes Larry Bird played the game of basketball so good, he made my dick hard." Hindi naman ata literal yun. Usually pag pumupuri ang isang tao ng player ang sinasbi nagkakagoosebumps yung tao. Pero si Scoop "Tinitigasan" Si Dirk Ang layo naman kay Bird. Court Vision na lng, Yung Presence nya sa Team Defense(Hindi Man to Man defense), Yung mga assists ni Bird sa mga teammates nya Grabe. Si Dirk Scoring Machine lng eh. Wala sa game ni dirk yung Kinakatukatan ni Magic Johnson" Ang alam ko lang pareha sila sa kulay. Pero nabasa ko sa internet si Adam Morrison "daw" parang next Larry Bird. Ipopost ko yung article na yun. Marami na kinumpara kay Bird pero ang makukumpara ko lng ka bird ay si Magic Johnson. ano sbi ni Charles Barkley nung kinumpara si christian laetner kay bird.:according to Charles Barkley, "the only thing Christian Laettner has in common with Larry Bird is they both pee standing up" Il post yung point ko bkit "there will never be another Larry Bird." Edited February 16, 2006 by edc Quote Link to comment
edc Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 but what makes him different from MJ are their physical ability. Michael is born to fly. His mission is to titillate the fancy of basketball fans who love players scorching the highlight reels. Ung kay Bird naman, utakan. he might not fly, he may not do that power slam or break ankles but his playing IQ levels that of Einstein. sarap maging kakampi. But all in all, it depends upon which type of game you want to.. Imagine NBA na walang mga dakdakero, walang MJ, walang kobe, walng Lebron, sa tingin mo, sino manonood ng NBA?baka magsara sila nyan, maybe the few population of ur like, that i like to call fundamentalist. masama din naman kung puro mga pa showtime ang mga players ng liga coz this will be a league of air-heads at mike wannabes at walang no-nonsense player na kagaya ni bird, oscar robertson, jason kidd, etc. na teamwork ang inuuna.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yun nagustuhan ko kay Bird yung IQ nya sa basketball. Sabi nga ni mchale "We played the game, I thought, the way it should have been played," McHale told the Boston Globe Hindi naman magsasara ksi nung panahon ni Bird and Magic narejuvenate ang nba. 1979 nung dumating sila umayos nba. Nagiba lng competition nung dumating yung mga high flyers. Talent na yung ngayon. Pero ang problem nalilimutan nila fundamentals. Kaya marami European players ngayon umaasenso. Nung panahon naman nila Bird and Magic meron naman Nagdudunk, Si Julius Erving. ANg napansin ko lng kaya marami nagkagusto kay jordan ksi si jordan ang sumunod sa pagiging Slam dunker ng Dr J. Eh Kumita pa sa karamihan ng mga tao kaya nagkaganun. Idagdag mo pa yung marketing ng nike na may air eh d marami tlga nagkagusto. Quote Link to comment
edc Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Ang Gana nito nabasa ko. http://www.slate.com/id/2132097/ Follow That BirdWhy does every white basketball player get compared to Larry Legend?By Josh LevinPosted Monday, Dec. 12, 2005, at 5:17 PM ET With seconds left and his team down one, Adam Morrison dribbled right, rose up from beyond the three-point line, and banked the ball high off the backboard. Impossibly, the shot fell through without touching rim, giving Gonzaga a dramatic win. "Larry Bird, baby!" croaked CBS color man Bill Raftery rapturously. "It felt like guarding Larry Bird," agreed Oklahoma State's Marcus Dove. Morrison leads college basketball in scoring. He's a 6-foot-8 white guy with floppy hair and a crustache. He's got Type 1 diabetes, which is the rough medical equivalent of growing up in French Lick, Ind. And if that weren't enough, the kid hung a Bird poster in his freshman dorm room. Ladies and gentleman, introducing Adam Morrison—your next "next Larry Bird." With no disrespect to Morrison, the habit of anointing every young white player the second coming of Larry Bird has to stop. It's bad for the Bird wannabes and it's bad for Bird himself. Want proof that getting compared to Bird is a one-way ticket to the Caucasian basketball graveyard? A list of players who've been identified as Bird-like reads like the roster of a CBA team sponsored by the KKK. There are the Dukies: Danny Ferry, Mike Dunleavy Jr., and Christian Laettner (according to Charles Barkley, "the only thing Christian Laettner has in common with Larry Bird is they both pee standing up"). There are the guys whose main qualification was playing college ball in the Midwest: Troy Murphy and Wally Szczerbiak ("a Larry Bird game, a Tom Cruise smile," one scribe said). There's the inexplicable: Australian Andrew Gaze. And the monstrously, hilariously inexplicable: center Eric Montross, whom Celtics exec M.L. Carr said was cut from the same cloth as the Birdman. Since he entered the NBA in 1979, Bird has always been seen as the Great White Hope. That's because he's the Only White Hope. After the Celtics knocked the Detroit Pistons out of the 1987 playoffs, Dennis Rodman groused that Bird was "very overrated" and racked up MVPs because all the awards went to the best available paleface. Jack Sikma and Kurt Rambis didn't offer much competition. "I think Larry is a very, very good basketball player. He's an exceptional talent," added Detroit's Isiah Thomas. "But I have to agree with Rodman. If he were black, he'd be just another good guy." It's true that if Larry Bird were black, he would be just another player—albeit another really, really great one. According to the Web site Basketball Reference, the list of players whose statistics mirror Bird's most closely includes one German (Dirk Nowitzki) and six African Americans: Kevin Garnett, Antoine Walker, Clyde Drexler, Magic Johnson, Dominique Wilkins, and Julius Erving. Instead of being classified with his true peer group—the Magics and Dr. J's—Bird has become the patron saint of slow-footed white guys like Troy Murphy and Adam Morrison. Such is the burden of the white archetype. The Bird myth goes that he got no favors from his DNA but scraped by on his wits and work ethic. While he couldn't jump high, it's ludicrous to suggest that a man who continually outclassed the best athletes in the world wasn't blessed with natural athletic ability. I'm sure there are tens of thousands of Indiana farm boys who shot hoops as much as Bird did growing up, and none of them developed his remarkable shooting touch, not to mention his knack for rebounding. Does that come from hard work or innate skill? The allure of the Bird comparison is that many of the qualities that made him great—his court vision, his anticipation, his leadership—are stereotypes associated with white basketball virtue. Take a look at these tidbits from Morrison's nbadraft.net scouting report: "Old school right down to the stripes on the socks ... Like a coach on the floor ... Great intangibles, competes and inspires others to play hard ... Fundamentally solid, does all the little things to help his team win ... Sees the floor well, and is creative finding teammates for baskets ... Runs decent, but needs a head of steam." Let's run that through the racial translator: "[White] right down to the [white] on the [white] … Like a [white] on the [white] … [White, white] and [white] … [White], and is [white] … [White], but [he's really slow and also he's white]." As far as we've come in pro sports, we've yet to reach the point where white basketball players can be comfortably compared to their black peers (and vice versa). One problem is that black basketball players don't have many white peers. The pool of modern-day African-American basketball stars is orders of magnitude larger than that of white ones. When it becomes clear that Grant Hill—or Harold "Baby Jordan" Miner, for that matter—isn't the next Michael Jordan, it's easy to ratchet things down a notch or 12. But if a white swingman falls short of Bird territory, revising him down to an appropriate level is almost too cruel. The next Tom Gugliotta? The next Brian Scalabrine? To be fair to Adam Morrison, he is a better case study than his Caucasian brethren—he consciously modeled himself after Bird, even emulating his patented high-release shot. It's also true that the current player whose skills most align with Bird's is the Mavs' Nowitzki. Europeans like Nowitzki, Peja Stojakovic, and Pau Gasol come closer to matching Bird's size and skill than any of the stiff-legged white Americans now plying their trade in the NBA. Still, none of these guys are in the same league with Bird when it comes to passing or toughness—they just make the American guys look even more pitiful by comparison. The folly of strict racial comparisons is clear when you try to conjure Bird's best historical analogue. The only other scoring big man who could match Larry Legend's rebounding ability, floor-bound approach, and pure mastery of the space around him is Magic Johnson. And he isn't white. A 1997 Sports Illustrated piece argued that the lack of white stars in the NBA has caused a "white inferiority complex." As a consequence, half-decent players become whites in shining armor. In that SI piece, Keith Van Horn complains that ever since he was in high school he felt the burden of being compared to Bird. Who did he liken himself to? African-American swingman Derrick McKey. Bird is one guy who never had a white inferiority complex. Actually, he did—he thought every white player was inferior to him. Last year, Bird said in an interview that back in his playing days he "really got irritated when they put a white guy on me." Why did he care if whitey guarded him? "ecause it's disrespect to my game." The fact that every fair-haired forward gets compared to the Celtics great means that Bird's leaden feet—rather than his scoring, rebounding, or passing—will be his legacy. Now that's disrespectful. Josh Levin is a Slate assistant editor. You can e-mail him at sportsnut@slate.com. Photographs of: Adam Morrison by Jesse Beals/Icon; Larry Bird by John M. McDonough/Icon SMI. Quote Link to comment
revi Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 If Scoop Jackson thinks that there will never be another Larry Bird.. and there would be another Jordan.. Then he is stupid.. Coz no player would be alike.. For me, No one can ever be compared to Jordan.. no one can ever duplicate what he has done.. coz he was the catalyst that made Basketball a global phenomenon.. a household name.. There might be players that could jump as high as Jordan, can win 6 championships.. can be scoring champ.. can be MVP.. can lead his team to W's.. but they can never be a catalyst.. dahil nag-iisa lang ang catalyst.. dahil siya ang nag-umpisa.. much like George Mikan being BB's first superstar.. first nga eh.. at catalyst.. iisa lang yun.. I do believe na wala ng magiging Bird.. same as Magic or even Eric Montross for that matter.. Quote Link to comment
tidyaxx Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 eto mga nakita kong similarities ni jordan and bird: 1. both were great leaders. they were able to inspire their teammates because of they were on court and off court. 2. both were proven champions and mvps. both were excellent individual and team players. 3. both were great trash talkers. 4. both had the ability to win even in hostile opponents' homecourts. 5. both were two of the three greatest clutch players in history (the other being reggie miller) nakitang kong pinakamalaking advantage ni bird kay jordan was his court vision...kaya nga nakakapasa si bird ng patalikod tapos pinapadaan sa ulo nya eh kaya lang i consider jordan to be greater than bird simply because of jordan's performance in game 5 of 97 finals...pasensya na kung paulit ulit ko tong sinasabi kasi ito talaga ang greatest performance of an athlete that i've ever seen....di ko nakita si bird na nalagay sa situation na he was physically weak and yet make the winning shot of an nba finals game. i simply cannot imagine how an athlete can match or even surpass how jordan displayed his sheer determination to win that time. Quote Link to comment
bubuy Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 i see that all of you are mesmerized by The Great One's posts.. Quote Link to comment
zero_kidd2000 Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 enough comparing bird and jordan.. they are both great players and they have different playing styles.i admire and have much respect both players and you guys should give it a rest. this thread is about "his airness".. it's not a thread about who the greatest basketball player is. if i'm not mistaken. anyway you should try checking out MJs clothing line.. now that is something. It all started out when nike made kicks for MJ. nike had no plans of creating a shoe line for MJ during that time. the first set of MJ shoes had the swoosh logo.. then after some time the swoosh logo was no longer a part of the shoe line.. it was replaced by the jumpman logo.. after the shoe line the jumpman brand is now being geared up to become a lifestyle brand.. although the jumpman brand is still under nike, the jumpman brand is being marketed as if it were an brand independent of nike.. now that's something Quote Link to comment
edc Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 If Scoop Jackson thinks that there will never be another Larry Bird.. and there would be another Jordan.. Then he is stupid.. Coz no player would be alike.. For me, No one can ever be compared to Jordan.. no one can ever duplicate what he has done.. coz he was the catalyst that made Basketball a global phenomenon.. a household name.. There might be players that could jump as high as Jordan, can win 6 championships.. can be scoring champ.. can be MVP.. can lead his team to W's.. but they can never be a catalyst.. dahil nag-iisa lang ang catalyst.. dahil siya ang nag-umpisa.. much like George Mikan being BB's first superstar.. first nga eh.. at catalyst.. iisa lang yun.. I do believe na wala ng magiging Bird.. same as Magic or even Eric Montross for that matter.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yung sinasbi lng ni scoop jan ay si jordan yung skills nya magagaya. kumbaga may imitation. di ba ngayon ang daming binabansagan as the "next michael jordan" check nyo na lng si kobe. yung galaw jordan na jordan. marami ksi mga negro na gumagaya kay jordan. Pero si bird kahit imitation sa mga players ngayon wala eh. Ang pinakamalapit na imitation kay bird si nowitzki pero hind dahil sa game. dahil pareha silang kulay. Ang layo ng game ni Bird kay nowitzki. Hindi tlga sinasabi na meron magiging jordan. ang sinasabi lng mas madali gayahin si jordan kaysa kay bird. Ksi si jordan naging pamantayan ng mga negro at nagagaya nman ng mga negro si jordan. The word is nagagaya. Si Bird naging pamantayan ng mga puti pero problema wla pa mga puti na makagaya sa laro ni bird. As in ni imitation hindi mabebenta. Quote Link to comment
edc Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 kaya lang i consider jordan to be greater than bird simply because of jordan's performance in game 5 of 97 finals...pasensya na kung paulit ulit ko tong sinasabi kasi ito talaga ang greatest performance of an athlete that i've ever seen....di ko nakita si bird na nalagay sa situation na he was physically weak and yet make the winning shot of an nba finals game. i simply cannot imagine how an athlete can match or even surpass how jordan displayed his sheer determination to win that time.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Si jordan may lagnat ata nun. Hindi ko sure, correct me. Ang greatest performance ni jordan para sa akin dalawa: Yung pinasa nya bola kay paxson and yung kay steve kerr. Nung nakita ko na pinasa ni jordan bola kay paxson. Sbi ko nun nagmature na si jordan. Yung isa naman nung na-double team si jordan pinasa nya kay kerr. Para sa akin dun sya naging One of the Greatest Player. Nung early years nya ksi pinipilit nya yung fade-away nya kahit double team na. Si Bird majority ng playing career nya meron syang problema sa Spine. Para sa akin naman ang greatest performance ng isang NBA player ay yung steal ni Bird kay thomas. Grabe yun. Hindi nga game winning shot. Game winning Steal and Assits para manalo. "With five seconds remaining and the Celtics trailing 107-106, Bird stole an Isiah Thomas inbounds pass and fed Dennis Johnson, whose layup gave Boston the win" Sobra Grabe yun. Lamang Detroit tpos inbound pa ng detroit tpos 5 seconds remaining? Si Isiah Thomas na magaling pumasa pa nag-inbound. Kso malas talaga ksi si Bird kalaban eh. Hindi lang basta naka-steal, pinasa pa sa kakampi na nagresult sa panalo. Kung ibang player ang naka-steal nun tapos 5 seconds remaining sigurado ititira agad yun. Lalo na sa mga players ngayon. Ganito na lng ksi kanya kanya tayo greatest eh. Si Jordan The"Greatest One on One Player" Si Bird naman The "Greatest All Around Player" Quote Link to comment
edc Posted February 16, 2006 Share Posted February 16, 2006 Nagkukumparahan kung sino Greatest Player sa NBA. Meron jordan vs wilt, Sa akin naman Bird vs Jordan....etc Ang argument ko si jordan and current players ay natulungan na rin media and commercialsm kaya natatawag na greatest. Meron ako ipopost na Article na ang iniinterview si David Stern. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...ns/stern/060216 Bill Simmons: You know I've advocated you for the presidency, right? David Stern: I know, I know. Thank you very much. Bill Simmons: You're not into it? David Stern: [smiling] I'm not into politics. Bill Simmons: The people that know you say you love being the commissioner, you're always going to be the commissioner … David Stern: I think you judge that on a day-to-day basis. The job and the opportunities have so changed over the years that I find it continually challenging and stimulating … when you recognize what the untapped potential is for sports, [like] North and South Korea talking about a single team and marching under a single flag in the Beijing Olympics, where but in sports? The other part that we're doing -- the section that deals with digital entertainment, the digital ecosystem, when you think about what's coming in that part of the technology world, where there are going to be 3 billion cell phones by the year 2010, and even they and their successors, which will be just called handheld devices, will be video-enabled, music-enabled, voice-enabled and Internet-enabled … that has enormous implications for everything we do, both as a society and with the NBA. It's in a vacuum, changing day by day. So we've got the technological changes occurring, we have globalization occurring, and we have enormous needs for corporate/social responsibility, so there's really a great opportunity to do well and do good at the same time. Bill Simmons: How would you compare that to 1983, when you were taking over? David Stern:Look what's happened since 1983. We've gone from three networks or maybe four … I mean, the first network deal I made for cable, which I either fortunately or unfortunately made, was in 1979 (with a network that eventually became USA) for $400,000. In the intervening 20 years or so, we went from 4 million subscribers on cable to 90 million on cable and satellite … we went from five networks to 500 networks. That was the most enormous growth and we rode that growth. That was a river that came running by our door -- actually, it was more like an ocean. Another thing happened: Right now, the only building in our league that isn't new or rebuilt since 1984 is the Meadowlands, and that's planned for replacement in a couple of years. All of the sudden, we have 30 teams playing in buildings with club seats, suites, video boards, sound systems, I mean, it is almost unfair to compare the experience. And by the way, the TV thing is significant in another way. Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain labored in relative anonymity. I just read some place that Greg Oden has already appeared in two ESPN games. The third is Michael Jordan, but for a different reason than you might think. Michael Jordan and Nike made sports marketing a consumer product business as well, where teams put their marks on everything from apparel to furniture to hard goods … Bill Simmons: But you guys had a little bit to do with that, in terms of marketing players and games? You guys were the first ones that did it, right? David Stern: You know, interestingly enough, when I became commissioner, everything I knew I copied from either Major League Baseball promotions or NFL Properties. They were very generous with their time, Bowie Kuhn and Pete Rozelle … the NFL had NFL Films, baseball had MLB productions and MLB Promotions, the NFL had NFL Properties, so it was sort of, "OK, we have all these people doing things in a pretty good way, what could we learn from them?" But it was the Michael Jordan/Nike phenomenon that really let people see that athletes were OK, and black athletes were OK. Defying a previous wisdom -- not only that black athletes wouldn't sell in white America, but that the NBA as a predominantly black sport could not sell in white America. And then sponsors became interested. So all these things came together at the same time. I mean, in 1985, we invited the Chinese national team -- actually, we didn't really invite them, we just said, "Some day, we hope you'll be here," and we got a telex saying, "we accept your invitation" [laughs] -- and I remember thinking, "Where are we gonna raise the $250,000 to cover this tour?" And while they were on the plane, Kaliber, the nonalcoholic beverage for Guinness, agreed to a deal with us that allowed us to cover the expenses. It wasn't always that we had a blue chip [sponsor] lined up … sponsors began looking at sports, or at least looking at us. So those three things, the marketing, the arena and the television were huge, because I refuse to say that Player X of today is better than Elgin, Wilt, Willis, Bill Russell, Havlicek, Harry Gallatin … Quote Link to comment
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