SPORTS & WORKOUT INJURIES

[complicated8]

Well I guess its a good thing if it worked for you, but willing your way to better health on your own is different from having someone apply some form of treatment for you and believing it works. Its the same premise that faith healers work on... Your faith has cured you. Even modern medicine accepts the fact that the mind can work wonders on healing. It is a phenomenon.

 

In my case I won't be accepting treatment from someone who just does it based on experience and trial and error without a plausible explanation on what is happening to me. If you take a good look at Chinese medicine and Ayurvedic medicine it is a combination or thousands of years of experience as well as a plausible explanation for what is happening to you. It may contradict what modern medicine may say or it may even jive with modern medicine, but hey, if you can explain what's happening to me although in your own terms, I'll consider it.

 

The problem with such statements is that when people read it, they would bite into it hook, line, and sinker, without giving it a second thought. Its the same as "oh, my cousin, friend, uncle, swears by this herbal blah, blah, so I'll take it".

I tried theraphy with all the equipment and exercises - didn't work; tried one hilot - didn't work. Tried another hilot - partially working. I'm getting stronger especially after the "treatment". As long as it works, it works. Nothing last forever though. My trusted hilot before died when was I young. When I am in pain, I can ask anybody to rub that area and if my mind can heal it - then it would work with anyone. Because it worked for a particular hilot and not every hilot, then I don't think my mind was responsible for it.

 

When modern medicine doesn't have an answer for what ails you or doesn't have an inexpensive way of getting your health back to what it was, try it. For me, it couldn't hurt. For me the hilot's effects are better than the physical theraphy sessions.

I was prepared that it wouldn't work. My doubting mind should actually not make this work, right? But I would put surgery as the last option.

 

What do you do when you have a severe sprain? Just RICE. How long will it take you to recover? Hilot - tried and tested and works.

 

Hilot is different from faith healing. Faith healing is just saying a few prayers/magic words putting your hands on someone and "poof" you're healed. Now that is your mind healing you.

[complicated8]

the treatment varies in faith healing and hilot. Even if the belief is there, doesn't mean you'll recover from both. Is the testimonies of those that didn't work go to the same hilot? Did the hilot really believe the treatment will result in recovery? The hilots I went to told me that if my ligaments are broken, hilot won't work. Compared to the initial assessment of the orthopaedic surgeon who bent my knees and said it's 90% ACL tear and that it will cost lots of mooolah to fix including a lengthy rehab.

 

Belief in the treatment also wasn't there for me. Like I said I was ready for this not to work and thinking of saving up for the costly surgery.

 

I also had bone spurs in my heel from x-ray. Needed surgery and at the time I thought only Duncan had this done. I am not a pro player so I just rested it for a year, wore gel inserts for the heel. After a year, the pain went away and I can play normally again without gel inserts. No hilot there coz I couldn't find one at the time.

 

Right now, I'm just happy to be playing although I wear knee braces to prevent further injury. I have been asked to quit playing or stop for a year but am just too stubborn.

[abcd1234]

stretch always before sports

[complicated8]

desperation = belief? Doubt it. Anyway, I wasn't desperate. The worst that could happen was for me to quit sports. Failing result in the first hilot I went to prompted me to stop that. I was just willing to try anything with the thinking that it couldn't hurt. I was going to try acupuncture if hilot didn't do anything and like I said last resort was surgery. I was even hoping I could get the injections that a friend had that was supposed to strengthen the ligaments (that's from POI). But that was again another option after taking all the other inexpensive options that I still have. The hilot wasn't my last and only hope so I wasn't desperate.

 

I went to an ortho in Asian Hospital in Alabang and POI in Makati. Both gave the same initial asseessment on my knee. I really lost hope. Especially after the injury, first knee injury in my life. I couldn't stand/walk and after the physical therapy sessions, I got hurt more when I played when I was supposedly ok to resume playing.

 

For the bone spurs, surgery was suggested. I couldn't jog on cement and when I play basketball after the adrenalin rush, i was in real pain. But it wasn't suggested that it would heal without surgery.

 

For you it's belief, for me it's not since I doubt the power of prayer because his cancer and yours won't be cured equally even if you pray as much or go to the same faith healer.

 

If you see the stroke patients who had improved due to the hilot's "treatment", I doubt you would make the assessment on just belief. Now if my hilot prayed to improve my condition, maybe it's the placebo effect you are saying. But it's still more of my belief that the hilot's prayers are being answered and not my belief on my prayer.

 

If I really believed in the power of my mind, I would rely on the therapy and just will my knee to get better. But it really didn't. Now if you all you've got left is prayer, it still couldn't hurt.

 

Last post. Just try it. If it doesn't work, it doesn't. If it does, then thank your lucky stars that are still hilots around. That skill isn't readily transferred to everyone. That's why some have more success rate than others. Or the really tough cases mostly fail in amateur hilots. But thinking that it's just belief or your mind then it will work on every hilot because you "believe" in the "treatment".

 

My hilot before died (when I was a kid) and I let all my sprains just heal thru time and rest. But I think my ankles would be better if I was able to find hilots who could "treat" me.

 

When I had a painful shoulder from a bad sleeping position, it took almost a year for the pain to go away. Honestly, the hilot said it wasn't a "pilay" and he couldn't fix it and told me not to expect him to improve the condition. That's what I like about the hilots I went to. It wasn't offering false hope not like faith healing.

Edited May 26, 2010 by complicated8

[complicated8]

Hahaha!!! Torn ligaments won't be healed by hilot.

I have played with a lot of guys who have knee and shoulder reconstruction/ACL surgeries.

 

It's not a plug. If it were, I'd give the name of my hilot

Edited May 27, 2010 by complicated8

[complicated8]

It's just tough to think about why a PT can't do the same effect of the hilot. Critical thinking? It's really more of cost for me. 200k to fix my knee for a hobby (even if I love that hobby) I could use that money for something else.

 

There's no guarantee for surgeries as well since rehab is required to strengthen the ligaments. Some also do not come back. Just evaluating what is more financially sensible for me.

 

I haven't used a hilot since the one from my elementary days died. I'm now working and now the only time I have sought hilot because it was available. I have had so many sprains were time/rest (RICE) was the only treatment I took. If I knew a hilot then, I would have just tried that.

 

A lot of players I know still go for it. Massaging those ligaments by the hilot seem to be doing better than eletro stimulus treatments/ultrasound/hot packs and stretching exercises that I do.

 

If the hilot doesn't work, go for the other options. It's the same as picking your doctor. You know those botched cosmetic surgeries. Sometimes you can't fix those. If I try a doctor who will be cheaper, I will still be endangering my chances of recovering fully.

 

What do you want to plug? For the expensive option at the start?

[complicated8]

No, I ain't putting false hopes. Let's say 3/3 persons who go to this hilot with the same injury got healed. I go there hoping the success rate will also be the same. Of course there's a chance it won't heal. I'm just hoping to be part of the more positive statistic but am prepared for it not to work.

 

I also posted here that I went to one hilot who relieved the pain but didn't help me recover. Still felt weak and couldn't really play. I never recommended that hilot to anyone. Switched to another hilot who I was referred to and just dumb luck I got a little better.

 

Broken ligaments won't get healed by hilot and broken bones, etc. Even the hilot will tell you to go a doctor/surgeon. So the hilot isn't the ultimate healer. It all depends on what time of injury you have.

 

Question for you is what did the hilot do that made it worse? My PT just did ultrasound and wrapped a bandaged around my sprained/swollen ankle. The next morning, it was black and blue I didn't expect that as well as the PT. I couldn't find a hilot at that time.

 

Misinformation - where? I'm putting my experience here.

 

All the hilot did was massage the areas in pain with regular oil and sometimes liniment or probably efficacent oil. I can't do it the same way the hilot can or any relative of mine. I won't heal with just that. But the hilot was able to do it. I can ask anybody to watch and try to copy it. Do you think it will work? I see it and I can't do the same "hilot" to another person. I prefer the hilot who doesn't prayers and just that skill from years of doing it. You can watch it. Do you want a youtube video of it? If you see it, do you think you can replicate it?

 

Somehow the hilot's hands are able to detect where the pain is and know how to remove that pain. I can't even explain why getting it wet will get it swollen worse and that's why you are asked to keep it dry for a day. All I know is that will definitely happen and I won't try to debunk that. But there was a hilot that I experienced where it was ok to get it wet. That's the only one.

 

After I damaged my knee, I was in excruciating pain. My dad told me not to go to a hilot for fear that it will be worse like you said. I let so much time pass and used traditional health care specialists first and when I got worse that was the time I thought a hilot couldn't do worse than this.

 

Massaging those areas has some healing effect. Don't we do the same in a spa? Somehow it's just different.

 

Go to a therapist or doctor. I haven't seen one who try to do "hilot" on your sprain. Just prescribe some pain medicine to relieve you of discomfort and do what i already wrote above. Just RICE and you will get better. Well, I prefer to go to a hilot.

 

You must have something against the hilot. I don't. Like I said I was going to try acupuncture next. Traditional healing therapies that aren't used by the medical field. Because they are less expensive. They sometimes work and sometimes don't. These skills are even passed down thru family. I wish every one can copy it and explain it so that when a good hilot dies. The skill won't die too.

 

For those reading this, I'm sure you know what the hilot can do and what it can't. All I know is that it works and people come back to the same hilot and recommend it to their friends because it works. I didn't come back to the hilot who couldn't fix me.

 

I do the same for any doctor. I would recommend "a" doctor if he was able to diagnose me and anybody I know with accuracy and helped me heal in the quickest possible time.

 

Now if you think if all i should have done was rested for the same amount of time and wished/willed/prayed to get better and it will. I seriously doubt that.

Edited May 30, 2010 by complicated8

[complicated8]

Wrong doctors? POI and Asian hospital who quotes 200k (few years ago). They must also have a high success rate for their ACL reconstruction jobs. Otherwise, why still charge that much? POI is where MTC commish get his knee treated. I'd like you to face these doctors and say that to their face. I actually was referred to another doctor who was a bit cheaper but didn't really take the time to "care" for me. He was the one who did surgery on another commish's knee. He is still playing. At least I know of one successful work of his.

 

It was a slight sprain. I didn't expect to happen since I have had so many sprains in the past. Does it say on the front door? This is the wrong doctor or wrong PT. Licensed professionals are everywhere.

 

And by experience, doctors says that this patient who had a stroke will never walk again. How come the hilot was able to fix that? Someone bedridden. They may not be able to fix 100% percent of the cases but some do and I think that's enough to convince them to try. Than 100% who never tried it then 100% never walk again. How can the hilot make it worse? Do these doctors recommend acupuncture or do they practice themselves that? I doubt it.

 

These players I know who've had surgery to fix their problems never once said to me to try acupuncture.

 

Like I said not all hilot are the same. Now you are saying I went to the wrong doctor. If it doesn't work, go somewhere else and pursue other treatments. How do the acupuncturist diagnose you? Does he study an MRI or recommend it first to see if it's treatable?

 

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Even though accepted, TCM is here from here:

Traditional Chinese medicine is considered to require considerable diagnostic skill. A training period of years or decades is said to be necessary for TCM practitioners to understand the full complexity of symptoms and dynamic balances. According to one Chinese saying, A good (TCM) doctor is also qualified to be a good prime minister in a country.Modern practitioners in China often use a traditional system in combination with Western methods.

 

Traditional Chinese medicine is largely based on the philosophical concept that the human body is a small universe with a set of complete and sophisticated interconnected systems, and that those systems usually work in balance to maintain the healthy function of the human body. The balance of yin and yang is considered with respect to qi ("breath", "life force", or "spiritual energy"), blood, jing ("kidney essence", including "semen"), other bodily fluids, the Wu Xing, emotions, and the soul or spirit (shen).

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A philosophical concept? Why would a bunch of needles heal my knee? When medical experts say I require surgery to fix it? It doesn't make sense, right? How is that equivalent? Albeit, I have little or no understanding of acupuncture. It's also the same with hilot. I just know that it works for some.

 

With hilot, go with someone you know. Or other people who have been treated and successful.

 

Hilot vs faith healing is something I wouldn't even post here. Player A goes to hilot for his ankle sprain, able to play again after 3 days after one session. Player b same injury, does the same and gets the same result. For purpose of argument, goes to the same hilot. Would player C try it as well? If I was player C, I would. For me, it couldn't hurt to try. But for you - are you a player?

 

But to appease, Mach83. For all players/body builders/fitness afficionados, go to the doctor. I did and paid 800 pesos each for the visit (this was a few years ago, not sure now). Went to two just to check if they would have the same diagnosis. Went for x-ray, paid again and nothing there. Sprain, MRI - how much will it cost? 10k+? Went to therapy for 2 months (3 days a week) rested 3 months before that, how much did that cost me? Got hurt again. Stopped going to the PT. Next step, go for surgery which is how much?

 

Don't gamble with your health! Follow Mach83. Do not seek the hilot. Do not follow my example. You might get worse but it is ok to seek TCM because the acupuncturist can explain how to heal you which probably won't be recommended by your ortho surgeon.

[complicated8]

This is like an FR for me. This is what happened. Now because I had to search for my hilot. Do your own search. If you would like to share your hilot, share.

 

I'll ask you to do the same. Are you a PT? What happened to these hilot cases you had to fix because it got worse? What did you do to fix their case? This is what this hilot did and it got worse.

 

Put your list of recommended physicians/experts and plug it in here. These are who you know who was successfully treated.

[azrk]

 

Don't gamble with your health! Follow Mach83. Do not seek the hilot. Do not follow my example. You might get worse but it is ok to seek TCM because the acupuncturist can explain how to heal you which probably won't be recommended by your ortho surgeon.

 

I agree with this. had an ankle sprain a few months back and it got worse. what could have been 2-3weeks full recovery turned to a month.

[POPPSY]

Pilates Posture Check

 

Use Pilates to Achieve Good Alignment

 

 

Pilates is all moving efficiently. What makes Pilates so important with respect to posture is that Pilates trains us to develop and use core strength, rather than holding our position with superficial musculature.

 

 

 

Using the deep core muscles of the powerhouse - the abdominals, back, and pelvic floor - to support our posture allows the shoulders to relax, the neck and head to move freely, and relieves stress on the hips, legs, and feet.

 

 

 

Most of us know good posture when we see it, and we are inspired by how free and strong it makes a person look, but there are so many reasons to attend to ones posture I think it is worthwhile to take a moment to get really motivated.

 

 

 

Benefits of Good Posture:

 

 

 

- pain relief throughout the body, including back and neck pain, hip pain, leg and foot pain.

 

 

 

- allows us to move efficiently

 

 

 

- improves muscle function

 

 

 

- increases range of motion

 

 

 

- takes pressure off of compressed organs

 

 

 

- improves circulation

 

 

 

- creates a trimmer appearance

 

 

 

- radiates an attitude of confidence

 

 

 

Now that you are thoroughly convinced that attention to posture is not just a mother's wish, here is an alignment checklist you can use to work with your own posture.

 

 

 

Posture and Alignment Exercise:

 

 

 

Begin standing. Stand with your feet and legs directly under your hips. Your legs and feet are parallel, and your knees are pointing forward, straight but not locked.

 

 

Balance Your Weight. Adjust your body so that your weight feels like it is falling directly through the middle of the foot. A good way to do this is to rock slightly forward and back on your feet, making the movement smaller and smaller until you feel your weight is balanced over the center of your foot.

 

Activate your core muscles. Lightly pull your abdominal muscles in and up. As you do so you engage the pelvic floor as well. You are going for a feeling of aliveness in the core. Just this move is usually enough to improve one's posture significantly.

 

 

 

Drop the tailbone. Activating the core will allow you to drop your tailbone directly down toward the floor. This is a neutral spine position, where the natural curves of the spine are present without tucking or hyper-extending(sway back) the pelvis. A popular image is that the pelvis is a bowl of water and you don't want the water to spill out to the front or the back.

 

 

 

Relax and open your chest. The chest is not caved in and not thrust out, just resting easily. There is a small point at the bottom of your sternum, and that, like the tail bone, should be pointing straight down.

 

 

 

Shoulders down, broad back. Allow your chest to drop and open as your back expands. As this happens, your shoulders drop away from your ears and your shoulder blades slide down your back. Cultivate a posture whereby the your core is holding you up, not your shoulders!

 

 

 

Ears reach for the sky. The head and neck are now completely supported by the core and easily float above the shoulders. Imagine that the tops of your ears are reaching for the sky. Your gaze is straight forward, with the throat open and the chin resting naturally.

 

 

 

Review the line up. If you were seen from the side your body part line up will look like this:

 

 

 

•ankles

 

•knees

 

•hips

 

•shoulders

 

•ears

 

 

 

I suggest going through this posture check list as many times as you can during the day. It is an especially good exercise to do once you are warmed up, or even after a workout, when your awareness is heightened and core well engaged.

 

 

 

All Pilates exercises will help you develop your core strength and awareness, but here are a few suggestions to get you started:

 

 

 

Pilates Exercises to Support Good Posture

 

 

 

Finding Neutral Spine

 

 

 

Pelvic Curl

 

 

 

Pilates Plank Pose

 

 

 

Roll Up

 

 

 

Another important aspect of working with improving ones posture is breathing. Good posture allows us to breath deeply and fully. Similarly, breathing well is essential to good posture. Here are some ways to work with breath and alignment:

 

 

 

Sequential Breathing

 

 

 

Posture and Breathing Muscles

 

 

[snoopy/woodstock]

before engaging in a sport activity, take time to warm up properly from the neck down to your ankles.

[tommynwong]

before engaging in a sport activity, take time to warm up properly from the neck down to your ankles.

 

I sometimes in a hurry that I shorten my stretching and warm up,ayun, nag ka stiff neck and sore trapezius ako.

[knoll1234]

about 8 months ago, i noticed that my right knee was buckling down when climbing the stairs, but not going down the stairs. On the stationary bike for half an hour does not registerany pain at all, nor walking on a flat surface. I don't know what it is, but it does not bother me right now.

[bher2]

i always do stretching before jogging, but since na im overweight, after 30mins to 1 hour of rest, i feel pain on my feet especially on the calcaneus part, lalo pag nagbasketball ako, pag umupo at nagpahinga na ako, once na tumayo i can feel the pain..