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[YellowPanda]

 

If you have more than a million to invest, COL Financial, maybe other brokers as well, has a Relationship Manager to assist you. RM is the spotter, buy you're still the one pulling the trigger.

 

 

 

 

I see, don't have a million to invest :/ So, if ever I do decide to be assisted by a RM, the dynamic would be that he would inform me and advise me and I'll tell him my decision, he will implement?

[YellowPanda]

what are safe areas of investment now?

 

> There seems to be no safe areas for investments if we are talking about stocks. It's all risk and speculation. One day Casino shares are high, the next day Resorts World happens, then stocks go down.. Now it's up again. If you are in it for long term investment with sure yield, better choose Bonds... but for short term gains in the stock market, even the big names like TEL (PLDT) can be risky.. from 2300 now its 1800... imagine buying 100 shares of it ...

 

 

Is it advisable to just choose one and buy shares and wait for it to grow?

 

> it has been advised that you should diversify your portfolio. Spread your shares. dont put all your eggs in 1 basket

 

 

Would it be better if I had a broker manage my dealings and give him the reigns as regards the company, the number of shares, etc.?

 

> if you don't have the time to watch trends in online trading.. yes, i would suggest get a broker

Thanks for this.

 

Correct me if i'm wrong, i understand that shares are very erratic to begin with, but bonds are generally comparable to loans, right? Like, I will buy bonds, to be encashed after a certain period of time. So, how will this ensure gain better than shares? It just seems like its a stagnant kind of thing, or at the very least, small return, like those that banks offer. Definitely going to be in it for the long haul.

 

I suppose, more than anything, its how the market feels about the company which will increase its share's value. I guess I really need to consult with someone regarding this. any suggestions as to who or where I might find people who can help me on this matter?

 

Are there different kinds of brokers I should be aware of? I mean, I want to invest in shares, but are there specialties in this sort of thing?

 

Thanks again!

[rontan2014]

I see, don't have a million to invest :/ So, if ever I do decide to be assisted by a RM, the dynamic would be that he would inform me and advise me and I'll tell him my decision, he will implement?

 

RM will your risk appetite and advise you on what stocks to buy or sell and at what price range. You're still the one doing the manual trading. Unless, you want it managed, the RM will trade for you.

 

In terms of risk taking: penny stocks are the most volatile, next growth stocks, and then blue chips.

 

In terms of risk aversion: Government Securities (T-Bills and Bonds), next Blue Chips Bonds, and then Junk Bonds.

Edited June 6, 2017 by rontan2014

[Well Done]

Greetings guys!

 

Im new here in the MTC forums. if anyone is looking for a trader that will handle your funds, give me a pm. I specialize in international financial markets.

 

Thanks

[HunkDavao]

 

RM will your risk appetite and advise you on what stocks to buy or sell and at what price range. You're still the one doing the manual trading. Unless, you want it managed, the RM will trade for you.

 

In terms of risk taking: penny stocks are the most volatile, next growth stocks, and then blue chips.

 

In terms of risk aversion: Government Securities (T-Bills and Bonds), next Blue Chips Bonds, and then Junk Bonds.

 

How much do RM take as commissions on each trade?

[rontan2014]

 

How much do RM take as commissions on each trade?

 

Don't know. I trade on my own.. I'll ask a friend of mine.

[rontan2014]

Greetings guys!

 

Im new here in the MTC forums. if anyone is looking for a trader that will handle your funds, give me a pm. I specialize in international financial markets.

 

Thanks

 

What markets?

[YellowPanda]

 

RM will your risk appetite and advise you on what stocks to buy or sell and at what price range. You're still the one doing the manual trading. Unless, you want it managed, the RM will trade for you.

 

In terms of risk taking: penny stocks are the most volatile, next growth stocks, and then blue chips.

 

In terms of risk aversion: Government Securities (T-Bills and Bonds), next Blue Chips Bonds, and then Junk Bonds.

 

Ohh.. a lot of new things and terminologies here.

 

Penny stocks lose me even if I try to research what they are.. Growth stocks seem like a viable option, but blue chips seem to appeal to me the most.

 

Thanks for the information, will probably look for a RM, how will I know if the RM is capable? any tips? thanks again for all the explanations, rontan!

[rontan2014]

 

Ohh.. a lot of new things and terminologies here.

 

Penny stocks lose me even if I try to research what they are.. Growth stocks seem like a viable option, but blue chips seem to appeal to me the most.

 

Thanks for the information, will probably look for a RM, how will I know if the RM is capable? any tips? thanks again for all the explanations, rontan!

 

Ask about his/her average and largest drawdown, forget about the gains. If his/her largest loss is more than 20%, that means he/she is a risk taker and probably not enough portfolio diversification.

 

Remember, loses are geometric. If you loss 20% of you capital, you need to gain 25% to break even. A 50% loss needs a whooping 100% just to break even.

[HunkDavao]

@rontan,

 

at what % do you usually sell... specially on an uptrend?

[rontan2014]

@rontan,

 

at what % do you usually sell... specially on an uptrend?

 

I look at the resistance level. But in case of IPO, I'm happy with taking just 10-12%. Then wait for a momentary drop before buying again.

 

Conversely, if the price drops to 10%, I immediately sell. It's better to have a loss than stay with it. You can easily recover that loss with an active stock.

Edited June 8, 2017 by rontan2014

[rontan2014]

By the way, Wilcon looks good.

[YellowPanda]

 

Ask about his/her average and largest drawdown, forget about the gains. If his/her largest loss is more than 20%, that means he/she is a risk taker and probably not enough portfolio diversification.

 

Remember, loses are geometric. If you loss 20% of you capital, you need to gain 25% to break even. A 50% loss needs a whooping 100% just to break even.

I see, thank you, will keep this in mind. I understand that diversifying your portfolio is more beneficial than "putting all your eggs in one basket". For a Php 100,000.00 initial capital. In how many variety of shares would you recommend splitting that up in?

 

Thanks again!

[HunkDavao]

 

I look at the resistance level. But in case of IPO, I'm happy with taking just 10-12%. Then wait for a momentary drop before buying again.

 

Conversely, if the price drops to 10%, I immediately sell. It's better to have a loss than stay with it. You can easily recover that loss with an active stock.

 

nakakapanghinayang to sell at a loss talaga.. but yeah, this is a wise advise. selling if price drops 10%.

 

EAGLE seems to be hovering at 16, im sure you bought at 15? have you sold na?

 

i want to risk with GLO and TEL and other big amounts. RISK RISK.. nakaka-banas manood ng presyo ng mga Piso-Piso.. though it seems worth it if its a good stock

[HunkDavao]

I see, thank you, will keep this in mind. I understand that diversifying your portfolio is more beneficial than "putting all your eggs in one basket". For a Php 100,000.00 initial capital. In how many variety of shares would you recommend splitting that up in?

 

Thanks again!

as per rontan.. Wilcon looks good.. so grab it..

 

for 100k, id advise get 5 stocks na you will really research on tag 20k kada isa.. wag ka bumili agad. read the Technical guides of the online brokerage. or if may RM ka, then sya na bahala..

[rontan2014]

I see, thank you, will keep this in mind. I understand that diversifying your portfolio is more beneficial than "putting all your eggs in one basket". For a Php 100,000.00 initial capital. In how many variety of shares would you recommend splitting that up in?

 

Thanks again!

as per rontan.. Wilcon looks good.. so grab it..

 

for 100k, id advise get 5 stocks na you will really research on tag 20k kada isa.. wag ka bumili agad. read the Technical guides of the online brokerage. or if may RM ka, then sya na bahala..

 

For a 100k, you can't afford an RM. And the minimum is 10k per trade due to the principle of economic order quantity to maximize the cost per trade. So, you can have a portfolio of 10 positions.

 

Technical levels are important but for me, the best indicator of a stock are fundamentals (revenue streams, earnings per share, management quality, and market leadership). For starters, there's an FB group "Investagrams" which can help you. But in the end, you must do your own research and listen to the market. For now, you might want to look at companies that are "favored" by the Duterte administration.

 

Do not play with "penny" stocks for now because they can be very volatile or dormant for years. Start with stocks having at least P5/share.

[rontan2014]

 

nakakapanghinayang to sell at a loss talaga.. but yeah, this is a wise advise. selling if price drops 10%.

 

EAGLE seems to be hovering at 16, im sure you bought at 15? have you sold na?

 

i want to risk with GLO and TEL and other big amounts. RISK RISK.. nakaka-banas manood ng presyo ng mga Piso-Piso.. though it seems worth it if its a good stock

 

It's easy to include in your strategy to "cut your losses quickly". But pulling trigger is a different story. Trading is very emotional. That's why you cut your losses before it gets "too emotional" by way of being shell-shocked.

 

I wasn't able to buy EAGLE at IPO price. It's hovering around 15, so I won't buy until they build that Cebu plant. I'm looking at the food sector as well.

[you101]

@rontan,

 

at what % do you usually sell... specially on an uptrend?

Hold on to winners. Trail stop lang lagi.

 

Ung lugi, cut loss agad else maipit pera mo. Opportunity cost in missing out other names that are moving up.

[rontan2014]

Hold on to winners.

 

Yes for uptrending stock.

 

If ranging. Buy at floor, sell at ceiling.

[HunkDavao]

Napapansin ko sa mga websites na may analysis ng PSEI

 

yung mga Graphs and Analysis.. lahat na lang may kaniya-kaniyang interpretations ..

 

naalala ko tuloy mga Hustlers sa public markets sa Mindanao.. yung mga Guru ng Last Two (parang Jueteng to) .. ang dami nilang mga papel with numbers, with so many analysis also

[HunkDavao]

By the way, Wilcon looks good.

 

after 12 days.. its now 7.5 .. last June 8, it was 6.5

 

mukhang dapat sa yo ako makinig bossing Rontan

 

how do you look at SSP? and WPI? are these 2 still going to soar after corrections?

[you101]

Foreign hedge fund dw ung s wlcon.

[blackthunder]

Which is better tugs or vita?

[HunkDavao]

Foreign hedge fund dw ung s wlcon.

 

grabe FNB avg 50Mil the past 3 days..

Which is better tugs or vita?

Vita seems to oscillate.. pati Tugs.. im choosing between SSP, BRN, EAGLE, WLCON ... kahapon me and my GF got some 'tsupit' from SSI and MRSGI

[rontan2014]

after 12 days.. its now 7.5 .. last June 8, it was 6.5

mukhang dapat sa yo ako makinig bossing Rontan

how do you look at SSP? and WPI? are these 2 still going to soar after corrections?

 

Tsamba lang po.hehe... I'm expecting WLCON to double

Neither for SSI, SSP, BRN, & WPI, I don't put money on stocks with less than 5/share.

 

grabe FNB avg 50Mil the past 3 days..

Vita seems to oscillate.. pati Tugs.. im choosing between SSP, BRN, EAGLE, WLCON ... kahapon me and my GF got some 'tsupit' from SSI and MRSGI

 

MRSGI looks rebounding. I prefer CNPF though... But take notice, I haven't looked at their quarterly reports yet. Fundamentals should carry 75% of your decision making.