Linux Anybody?

[elbarax]

question lng po, how stable is linux as compared to XP pro?

[hyperaxe]

question lng po, how stable is linux as compared to XP pro?

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It depends on what Linux distro you use .. but IMHO .. most Linux distro has been more stable and reliable that any Windows OS around..

[mikhailberis]

IMHO.. using linux is easier if you the basic knowledge

of commands used using the command line like..

- ls

- cp

- ln

- mkdir

- rmdir

- rm

and the likes..

because these commands help get around the system

and manipulate some files.. also you should be familiar

with VIM editor as it is commonly found on almost all

distros.. but I do prefer joe...feels like im using wordstar

when using joe kasi.. hehehehe

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Hi level, You have valid points with regards to getting used to and being productive in Linux. However, there are distributions already out there which allows you to do almost all your work in a GUI -- like Mandrake (Mandriva, the new name), and Ubuntu. It wouldn't hurt to know these commands, and they are definite advantages.

 

As for VIM, some people I know prefer emacs instead for doing everything on Linux. I have friends that actually run X just to run emacs -- no desktop environment, nothing else, just emacs in X.

 

a linux user here as well .. been using RedHat most of the time, until Fedora Linux came..  but I also had some play time with Debian and Slackware before ..

 

lately, I've been experimenting with UML (User Mode Linux).. which I think is used by some VPS (Virtual Private Server) providers .. it's kinda cool since you can install different distros in 1 host OS .. right now I have  RedHat 9 host, wherein Debian and Slackware distros virtually resides .. moreover, they virtual networks can also be used so they can really run services independently..  i can help if you want to play with UML yourself .. i have some info you can check out at my site .. 

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Hi hyperaxe. UML definitely rocks. It's a very good idea indeed.

 

question lng po, how stable is linux as compared to XP pro?

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Depends on what you mean by stable. If you mean stable as in it won't just crash on you, then Linux is definitely a lot more stable than Windows -- mainly due to the design of the actual kernel. With regards to predictable performance, that's another point for Linux. Most linux distributions are very well tested and secured with hundreds if not thousands of volunteer developers and maintainers working to make the distributions perform as stable as they and the users need.

 

However when it comes to abundance of software, Windows still has close to 90% of the world desktop market, so it's not surprising that most of the software we know and use are developed for and under Windows.

 

Pero kung stability at stability lang, pareho silang stable -- IMHO, mas stable nga lang ang Linux given na default installations lang icocompare mo nung dalawa.

 

Pero mas marami pang issues aside from stability na icoconsider pag gagamit ka ng operating system, although stability is one crucial factor.

 

HTH!

[ken_2_10_nah]

Another thing to consider is vulnerability to viruses... Linux is immune to the gazillion viruses that plague windoze machines..

[hackerops]

I'm running one Redhat Enterprise Linux and one Mandrake Linux at home .. side by side my Windows XP dualboot with Windows 2000

[boyGenius]

Has anyone here tried running SUSE Enterprise 9 in VMware 5? I'm having problems getting it running. According to Vmware 5.0 spec it should be able run SUSE Enterprise 9.

[l3v3l]

Has anyone here tried running SUSE Enterprise 9 in VMware 5? I'm having problems getting it running. According to Vmware 5.0 spec it should be able run SUSE Enterprise 9.

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naka-command line ka ba? kasi di gagana GUI (KDE/Gnome) if di

mo na-install yung Vmware daemon/client, after ma-install mo na

gagana yung GUI part ng linux.. ssh access lang ako to my linux box..

hehehehe.. command line rocks!!!!

[chagascon]

Another thing to consider is vulnerability to viruses... Linux is immune to the gazillion viruses that plague windoze machines..

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Korek ka dyan! :thumbsupsmiley:

 

While everyone here at the office were frantically installing and updating their anti-virus, spyware detector, firewall, reinstalling windows, etc. I'm unaffected in my linux box.

 

One time a lot of computers went down due to virus and the boss got really annoyed because everyone was unproductive!

 

naka-command line ka ba? kasi di gagana GUI (KDE/Gnome) if di

mo na-install yung Vmware daemon/client, after ma-install mo na

gagana yung GUI part ng linux.. ssh access lang ako to my linux box..

hehehehe.. command line rocks!!!!

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Yup its useful to learn those unix commands. Keep up the good work bro!

 

 

Sorry Mikh, I've given up Ubuntu. Red Hat baby ako. Ehehe. Duwag ba?

[ken_2_10_nah]

Why giving up on ubuntu?

Well Ubuntu is more attuned for windoze users looking to migrate.. besides, it's only one install CD so not many developer tools are installed.

The stock Debian install has those..

[chagascon]

Why giving up Ubuntu? It's not suitable for my style of devel work. Actually, no developer tools are installed. Not even GCC.

 

Besides, Fedora is still nice. So is CentOS.

 

What really annoys me are the radical devel changes being made in every release of linux kernel 2.6! Some driver code written in early 2.6.8 need major revisions to port to > 2.6.9!

 

If any of you guys have experience with this, please PM me. Need help badly.

[ken_2_10_nah]

I keep forgetting that not everyone installs linux from the Net... When i wanted development tools on an ubuntu box i just used synaptic.. or if i wanted to do it from the command line i just apt-get install tasksel and then run tasksel from the CLI.

 

I like your choices too... I'm more partial to CentOS than Fedora though... and Debian / APT remains my package manager of choice.. but what the heck, they're all GNU/ Linux so they must be good, right :)

 

What's your problem with the 2.6 kernels?

[chagascon]

Red Hat / Yum is okay with me. If it's not there, download an RPM or compile from source.

 

There are method calls in 2.6.8 that got deprecated in > 2.6.9 it compiles but when you load it into the kernel as a module, dmesg complains with cannot resolve symbol. So either there are missing things in the kernel source/libs, or it got removed in > 2.6.9. During compile time, there were warnings with deprecated methods.

 

Ewan kakainis. First things first, make it run. Optimize later.

 

My conclusion: driver was written for early 2.6 kernel. Heck it won't even compile in kernel 2.4! Code is a bit unstable. There were instances when it cracked up the system. I can't run any new apps except for the ones that are already running. Happened in Fedora 3, CentOS 4, WBEL 3. So it's not an isolated incindent.

 

Hay... rants rants rants. Sorry couldn't help you guys with any of your Linux woes.

[boyGenius]

Red Hat / Yum is okay with me. If it's not there, download an RPM or compile from source.

 

There are method calls in 2.6.8 that got deprecated in > 2.6.9 it compiles but when you load it into the kernel as a module, dmesg complains with cannot resolve symbol. So either there are missing things in the kernel source/libs, or it got removed in > 2.6.9. During compile time, there were warnings with deprecated methods.

 

Ewan kakainis. First things first, make it run. Optimize later.

 

My conclusion: driver was written for early 2.6 kernel. Heck it won't even compile in kernel 2.4! Code is a bit unstable. There were instances when it cracked up the system. I can't run any new apps except for the ones that are already running. Happened in Fedora 3, CentOS 4, WBEL 3. So it's not an isolated incindent.

 

Hay... rants rants rants. Sorry couldn't help you guys with any of your Linux woes.

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Maybe the module the methods you use in 2.6.8 has an updated version. If I'm correct, you can try to make a sym link of the old version to the new version.

 

If the method is deprecated, there must be a new method that sure replace the deprecated ones. Sana makatulong. :cool:

[ken_2_10_nah]

Red Hat / Yum is okay with me. If it's not there, download an RPM or compile from source.

 

There are method calls in 2.6.8 that got deprecated in > 2.6.9 it compiles but when you load it into the kernel as a module, dmesg complains with cannot resolve symbol. So either there are missing things in the kernel source/libs, or it got removed in > 2.6.9. During compile time, there were warnings with deprecated methods.

 

Ewan kakainis. First things first, make it run. Optimize later.

 

My conclusion: driver was written for early 2.6 kernel. Heck it won't even compile in kernel 2.4! Code is a bit unstable. There were instances when it cracked up the system. I can't run any new apps except for the ones that are already running. Happened in Fedora 3, CentOS 4, WBEL 3. So it's not an isolated incindent.

 

Hay... rants rants rants. Sorry couldn't help you guys with any of your Linux woes.

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YUM is actually Yellow Dog Update Manager... synaptic can also manage yum repositories as well as Debian / Apt.. Have you tried Dag's Yum repositories for CentOS? Great for software that isn't on the CentOS update sites or on the CDs..

 

What device driver are you trying to compile?

[ken_2_10_nah]

arrgh! the sane backend doesn't support the hp scanjet 4070! stupid hp