jigger_horny Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 true ... even though one of them ... Quote Link to comment
juicer Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 yan ang problema your sizing us up pano kung yun ang usong damit d2 does that mean na hindi mo pede suot yung gusto mo. kasi kala nyo magdamit lng ng maluwag hiphop na pati kilos napupuna pano kung nainfluence talaga sila ng hiphop o lumaki sila na mga kaibigan nila itim sisisihin mo parin sila dont blame or hate them if they act , dress different we grew up in a 2 different environment peace out  hey face out. im not sizing you up hiphop guys. im just adding here my own personal view regarding balikbayans. dont you point your fingers at someone else baka bumalik yan sayo. dont you see, opinion page ito. nanisis ba ako? nag blame ba ako? did i say i hate you? learn how to read and analize mr peace out! sinasabi ko lang ho ang sa palagay ko ay dahilan kung bakit naimpluwensyahan ng hiphop style ang mga batang balikbayan. ok ho ba peace out? Quote Link to comment
THUG Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Absolutely So let us understand them na lang, after all perhaps deserve to be happy or get back the lost time after years of hardwork... In Addition------------Here they have the comfort of their own homes - sa abroad share a room or flatHere they have a vehicle - sa abroad they commuteHere they have a wife - sa abroad ..... well... ugh ugh... was watching Oprah last night.. the topic was about Classes of Society in the US.. the thing is not everyone in the US are rich.. there are the lower class, middle class, and upper class... and americans are very sensitive with this classes.. you cannot mingle with the other class if you dont belong there..  the lower class family father or mother works 2 jobs, lives in an unsafe community with lots of gangsters, their kids cannot go far from home since its not safe, their kids studies in a public school and been showing signs of being a gangster..  somehow i think most upper-middle class people here who migrate to the US ended up the same, in the US they become lower class..  so the question is, do you want to be middle class in a 3rd world country or a lower class in a 1st world country, being looked down by the upper and middle class? there was also a study that the middle class in the US is dissappering, and the same here in the Philippines, the gap between the lower and upper class is expanding..the rich get richer, the poor gets poorer, where most of the middle class fall to the lower class.. they even interviewed a direct grand daughter of the 2nd richest man in the world, Warren Buffet with 50 Billion dollar in net worth.. the granddaughter is not rich.. she even works as house organizer for an upper class family..the scrooge Warren Buffet does not give her any money.. hahaha!   Warren Buffet even made a statement that he wont be leaving any money to his relatives... what money does to your brain! huhum.. Quote Link to comment
HuGGiE Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 i can only speak for myself. the 1st time i went back to the PI in 1999....i was appalled. i complained alot and wanted to get out. thats because i expected things to happen the way things happen in the US. since then, ive become less judgemental and just tried to experience things how they are. i could see how filipinos might have thought i was being stuck up being in the situation i was when i first came to the PI. so for me....i think some of "arrogance" came from expecting things to look, feel, and things to happen like in the states. thus my attitude was poor. but i learned from the cliche, "when in rome, do as the romans. ive appreciated more things that are positives of the PI. now i love the place. i go to the PI twice a year just to vacation. so maybe for some people....their arrogance could stem from being frustrated.  I can relate to your initial experience, It was my first time in PI by myself. As soon as I accepted that things were done differently on different timeframes then I was able to enjoy my time.  When things would take longer than expected my cousins would laugh at me and say "Only in the Philippines!" Quote Link to comment
TNT Hsia Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 A reason to celebrate the Yuletide season kahit hindi Yuletide Quote Link to comment
VentureMaker Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 An all season Santa! Quote Link to comment
igol ays Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 (edited) Balikbayan's are People who earn more, but spend more People who pretend to be happy, but in fact they are lonely.  People who works like a horse in another country what's wrong with spending more, when you have more to spend?sure, anyone who has to pretend to be happy probably isn't; but those that don't pretend are most likely happyi've read this several times before, i have yet to see any proof Absolutely So let us understand them na lang, after all perhaps deserve to be happy or get back the lost time after years of hardwork... In Addition------------Here they have the comfort of their own homes - sa abroad share a room or flatHere they have a vehicle - sa abroad they commuteHere they have a wife - sa abroad ..... well... ugh ugh... on the contrary, lot's are homeowners, and own several vehicles as well... both of you must have come to view balikbayans from a very limited knowledge. here are some information from wikipedia: Filipino Americans tend to be highly educated 40% of adult Filipino Americans are college and university graduates holding advanced degrees in the arts and sciencesFilipino-American high school students have one of the highest graduation rates. They are known to perform well on state-given exams, as well as the SAT and Advanced Placement Examinations. Many of the newer generations of Filipino Americans born in the United States gravitate towards business and the professions, such as architecture, business administration, economics, education, engineering, medicine and nursing. Filipino-American students end up in professional careers, yielding higher incomes and better well-being, and are regarded as very successful in their respective fields. Most attend well-known universities and colleges, while a small number prefer community colleges and vocational schools.As a result of their level of education, many Filipino Americans are now in the upper middle class, and the community enjoys substantial economic well-beingIn 2005, the Filipino-American collective dollar remittances reached a record-high of $5.6 billion dollars. The buying power of the Filipino-American community is at $52 billion dollars Edited August 2, 2006 by eagleyes Quote Link to comment
lomex32 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 (edited) Mr. Snaileyes, (you give eagle a bad name) Your bulcrap Balikbayan definition refers only to those you seen on UHF T.V. of your Wikisheet Go to NAIA now and you will see balikbayans from LEBANON Add those in JAPAN, SINGAPORE, HONGKONG, TAIWAN, SAUDI ARABIAPAPUA NEW GUNEA, OMAN, QATAR, And guess what? And the majority who work there are what? DOMESTIC HELPERS - (Driving the latest models of Mercedes Benz and perhaps a Ferrari) SKILLED LABORS - TECHIES and ENTERTAINERS  More crap"upper middle class, and the community enjoys substantial economic well-being"  DOLE / OWWAIn Singapore 120,000 registered workers, 70%-80% are DOMESTIC HELPERSHalf f the remaining 20-30% are Nurses  What remains are a mix of Professionals Your blury eyes may have focused to much on Uncle Sam alone, look around look around look around other countries Did you know that WEBSTER (Yes the dictionary) sometime back defined FILIPINA = Domestic Helper? Your limited brain may have easily agreed to this.Now you are giving us this wiki wiki of yours  Talk about LIMITED KNOWLEDGE   both of you must have come to view balikbayans from a very limited knowledge. here are some information from wikipedia: Filipino Americans tend to be highly educated 40% of adult Filipino Americans are college and university graduates holding advanced degrees in the arts and sciencesFilipino-American high school students have one of the highest graduation rates. They are known to perform well on state-given exams, as well as the SAT and Advanced Placement Examinations. Many of the newer generations of Filipino Americans born in the United States gravitate towards business and the professions, such as architecture, business administration, economics, education, engineering, medicine and nursing. Filipino-American students end up in professional careers, yielding higher incomes and better well-being, and are regarded as very successful in their respective fields. Most attend well-known universities and colleges, while a small number prefer community colleges and vocational schools.As a result of their level of education, many Filipino Americans are now in the upper middle class, and the community enjoys substantial economic well-beingIn 2005, the Filipino-American collective dollar remittances reached a record-high of $5.6 billion dollars. The buying power of the Filipino-American community is at $52 billion dollars Edited August 3, 2006 by lomex32 Quote Link to comment
igol ays Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 (edited) Mr. Snaileyes, (you give eagle a bad name) Your bulcrap Balikbayan definition refers only to those you seen on UHF T.V. of your Wikisheet Go to NAIA now and you will see balikbayans from LEBANON Add those in JAPAN, SINGAPORE, HONGKONG, TAIWAN, SAUDI ARABIAPAPUA NEW GUNEA, OMAN, QATAR, And guess what? And the majority who work there are what? DOMESTIC HELPERS - (Driving the latest models of Mercedes Benz and perhaps a Ferrari) SKILLED LABORS - TECHIES and ENTERTAINERS  More crap"upper middle class, and the community enjoys substantial economic well-being"DOLE / OWWAIn Singapore 120,000 registered workers, 70%-80% are DOMESTIC HELPERSHalf f the remaining 20-30% are Nurses  What remains are a mix of Professionals Your blury eyes may have focused to much on Uncle Sam alone, look around look around look around other countries Did you know that WEBSTER (Yes the dictionary) sometime back defined FILIPINA = Domestic Helper? Your limited brain may have easily agreed to this.Now you are giving us this wiki wiki of yoursTalk about LIMITED KNOWLEDGE  i believe this definition was established on this thread earlier: http://www.nscb.gov.ph/ru12/DEFINE/DEF-TOUR.HTM Balikbayan - refers to Philippine nationals who are permanently residing abroad including their spouses and children, regardless of nationality or country of birth. It also refers to those of Filipino Descent who acquired foreign citizenship and permanent status abroad. pero teka nga pala; kahit sakaling naging tama ka, bakit kailangang mang insulto ka ng isang taong ni hindi mo kakilala? ganyan ba talaga ang pagpapalaki sa iyo ng magulang mo, o talaga lang na wala kang pinag aralan? Edited August 3, 2006 by eagleyes Quote Link to comment
lomex32 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 (edited) Spare us your righteous authority Mister Nagsearch ka pa sa yahoo/google lang din .. and now you shove this definition down to our post? Then you have the guts to say LIMITED ? Now you resort to your defense mechanism ...... :boo:  What's next?  ------------------------------Para hindi O.T. If I were to view a balikbayan just like you, the following descriptions may just be appropriateRIGHTEOUSAUTHORITATIVEyet/andNARROW-MINDED Your Avatar looks familiar, some poster named ric2000? also a Scuba enthusiast .... - Perhaps both of you mistakenly loaded your aqua lung with poisonus gas  i believe this definition was established on this thread earlier: http://www.nscb.gov.ph/ru12/DEFINE/DEF-TOUR.HTM Balikbayan - refers to Philippine nationals who are permanently residing abroad including their spouses and children, regardless of nationality or country of birth. It also refers to those of Filipino Descent who acquired foreign citizenship and permanent status abroad. pero teka nga pala; kahit sakaling naging tama ka, bakit kailangang mang insulto ka ng isang taong ni hindi mo kakilala? ganyan ba talaga ang pagpapalaki sa iyo ng magulang mo, o talaga lang na wala kang pinag aralan? Edited August 3, 2006 by lomex32 Quote Link to comment
Mandrake Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 An all season Santa! Right you are bro! Seen as "The Ever Reliable" to relatives and friends back home esp. in their times of financial troubles.. :cool: Quote Link to comment
igol ays Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 (edited) Spare us your righteous authority Mister Nagsearch ka pa sa yahoo/google lang din .. and now you shove this definition down to our post? Then you have the guts to say LIMITED ? Now you resort to your defense mechanism ...... :boo:  What's next?  ------------------------------Para hindi O.T. If I were to view a balikbayan just like you, the following descriptions may just be appropriateRIGHTEOUSAUTHORITATIVEyet/andNARROW-MINDED Your Avatar looks familiar, some poster named ric2000? also a Scuba enthusiast .... - Perhaps both of you mistakenly loaded your aqua lung with poisonus gas this is yet another example of someone taking liberties with a defined group of peopleexpanding the definition to suit his argument,and then shooting the messenger for pointing out his error young man, i have returned to the philippines several times as a balikbayanmy passport is stamped accordingly each and everytime i process through immigrationbalikbayans are only allowed to stay in the country for up to a year from the date of arrival(the only exception to this now would be those people holding dual citizenships and elect to use their philippine passports upon entry) i ask you this, are those people you cite really balikbayans?are those people who were just evacuated from lebanon/middle east only allowed to stay in the philippines for up to a year?and what about those domestic helpers, entertainers, and skilled laborers of which you speak? are they bound by law to leave the country within the specified time period? Edited August 4, 2006 by eagleyes Quote Link to comment
lomex32 Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 You barged in shootings posts and now you start ASKING QUESTIONS I bet your finger fiddles with your keyboard faster than you mind thinks ..... There are forums where your post likely be ... Eto'ng Bagay Sayo! The User Above You Part 3 The User Below You!  Mister find someone your post can be of value ..... I made this mistake of entertaining what seemed to be a worthwhile post from a Balikbayan, who probably much older than me (since u called me young man), and with a handle that seemed to represent an animal on top of the food chain .... Some attention u have ......  :evil:  i ask you this, are those people you cite really balikbayans?are those people who were just evacuated from lebanon/middle east only allowed to stay in the philippines for up to a year?and what about those domestic helpers, entertainers, and skilled laborers of which you speak? are they bound by law to leave the country within the specified time period? Quote Link to comment
igol ays Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 ^^^ why don't you check out your post #234?is that how you entertain seemingly worthwhile posts? by insulting the poster? you say i barged in on this thread? why don't you backread a little; you should find my posts here from last year you attempt to ridicule my posts?i've been a member here twice as long as you haveyet you're the one with more than twice the number of posts... sheeesh! i've presented citations to support my contention; all you've gone on is your imaginationit is sooooo easy to admit mistakes; or failing that, just agree to disagree without being disagreeablei have already once questioned your manners, but instead of apologizing for your behaviour, you continue to heap insults on mebut since i realize that it takes a man and/or a certain degree of maturity to act in a civil manneri'll just suppose you haven't reached either level yet my apologies to other thread contributors Quote Link to comment
bubuy Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Just like in sports, it is always easier for people to criticize what they are NOT instead of appreciating what they are. Â Views are always welcome but personal attacks on other members aren't. Quote Link to comment
james_bandido Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006  referring to sir lomex32 post, nasaktan ang aking damdamin sa kanyang nasabi na ang FILIPINA ay katumbas nang DOMESTIC HELPER ... ganyan na po ba kababa ang tingin ninyo sa kapwa filipino nyo ? pag paumanhin po ninyo sir lomex32, pero ang mga tulad po ninyo ang nagbaba sa tingin nang ating mga kababayan na nagtratrabaho nang marangal sa ibang bansa para lamang ipagtaguyod ang kanilang mga anak at pamilya ...  hindi po como karamihan sa kanila ay mga walang pinag aralan o kapos sa kaalaman ay ganun na po sila kababa sa ating komunidad ... meron rin po silang dignidad na naitatabi ...  pasensya na po ... dati rin po kasi akong OFW sa middle east ...  humihingi po ako nang paumanhin na rin sa ating mga admins/mods kung medyo naiba na ang tema nang "thread" na eto ...  gusto ko lamang po i-tama ang pananaw nang ating mga kababayan at itaas ang antas nang ating mga kapwa pilipinong nagtra trabaho sa ibang bansa ...  Quote Link to comment
fourtyounce48 Posted August 7, 2006 Author Share Posted August 7, 2006 You people need to relax. Dont take things so personally. Rather be open minded in that theres a different side to everything. One of you soley dwells on the negatives of being a balikbayan and another prefers to see the positive qualities of living abroad. Both can co-exist and the same time. Quote Link to comment
fourtyounce48 Posted August 7, 2006 Author Share Posted August 7, 2006 If I can make a small request. If its not to much trouble, can we communicate in english? Unfortunately Ive lost my native tongue and would appreciate it so that i can comprehend whats going on in here. Quote Link to comment
lomex32 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 (edited) Sadeeq, Mansour James I am not so sure what post of mine you refer.... But before you burst that bubble .... i want to say that I just equally pitty those who downsize our fellow kababayans aborad FYII have been active volunteer for Consul/Embassies/Labor Attache to where i have been to...... nations of which majority are FILIPINA domestic helpersFund Raising, community gathering, counselling <-- not like those socialized OFW events  Moreso i have personally defended ON THE SPOT Filipinas who were downsized by any sheethead which some lame Pinoys would have not done so  ----------------------------------------------------- I may have seen perhaps what you may have misunderstood TRY READING THE CONTEXTThis is the effect of entertaining a poster trying to catch attention .... by barging and argument over a WIKIPEDIA definition of a blikbayan ..... Obviously the exchanges i have was with another friend of ours I made an WEBSTER who made GRUESOME definition of a FILIPINO .... just like this WIKI WIKI's.... in short i just Dont Buy It....I hope this clears this up with u Did you know that WEBSTER (Yes the dictionary) sometime back defined FILIPINA = Domestic Helper? Your limited brain may have easily agreed to this.Now you are giving us this wiki wiki of yours   referring to sir lomex32 post, nasaktan ang aking damdamin sa kanyang nasabi na ang FILIPINA ay katumbas nang DOMESTIC HELPER ... ganyan na po ba kababa ang tingin ninyo sa kapwa filipino nyo ? pag paumanhin po ninyo sir lomex32, pero ang mga tulad po ninyo ang nagbaba sa tingin nang ating mga kababayan na nagtratrabaho nang marangal sa ibang bansa para lamang ipagtaguyod ang kanilang mga anak at pamilya ...  hindi po como karamihan sa kanila ay mga walang pinag aralan o kapos sa kaalaman ay ganun na po sila kababa sa ating komunidad ... meron rin po silang dignidad na naitatabi ...  pasensya na po ... dati rin po kasi akong OFW sa middle east ...  humihingi po ako nang paumanhin na rin sa ating mga admins/mods kung medyo naiba na ang tema nang "thread" na eto ...  gusto ko lamang po i-tama ang pananaw nang ating mga kababayan at itaas ang antas nang ating mga kapwa pilipinong nagtra trabaho sa ibang bansa ...  Edited August 8, 2006 by lomex32 Quote Link to comment
james_bandido Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 sir lomex32, i may have read your post wrongly, and i stand corrected on that ... all points taken and with due respect, but that doesn't mean "i have a limited brain" ... Â ADMINS/MODS : if you see fit that this post does not warrant to be in this thread please delete it ... thank you ... Quote Link to comment
lomex32 Posted August 8, 2006 Share Posted August 8, 2006 (edited) My apologies as well ...... Someone here used that "Limited" term and now it is all over this thread ====================================================Sad but true some individuals belittle OFW's DH and alike .... Those who think that only Professional middle class Pinoys are OFWs or BALIKBAYANS  are like those who would likely belittle them .... Take note "Likely" Allow me to share some -----------------------------Flight from Taipei Taiwan going back after my brief trip on a Christmas week ....I was seated next to a Filipina DH on my left who had a bad experience over her employer and has to return back after only 4 months.. On the far left was also a Filipina DH going for a vacation back home...They were so happy looking at their faces ..... and they once in a while go to the lavatory.. I noticed that a veteran Pinay Flight attendant was impolite to the 2 and others... she actslike a prison guard commanding the ladies to stand in line blah blah .... with an appropriate voicefor a FA .... I just have the urge then that this FA must have something to hear When she passed by me on the aisle I politely told her and softly ..." I know your job is tough but the jobs these ladies have perhaps are tougher than ours .... they perhaps deserve some nice treatment... after all its Christmas" She mellowed down since then... as my eyes followed her around the aircraft ....... the Filipina noticed that I said something to MADAM HELGA ... and she had idea what it was by giving me a smile and a shaking head------------------------------ It was a Sunday morningThere were 2 lady kababayans enjoying a take-out meal on a public park .....They were so kind to offer me what they were having ... I gave them my thanksand said that i love to but i have to go .... Just before i would ... I noticed an Indian looking fellow was SWEEPING at this park, right on the direction of the ladieseven right under the tables that they were eating ... There were 2 things on my mind1. The fellow was trying to be nice or to get closer to the ladiesor2. He seemed disturbed by the ladies at the tables on the park he is cleaning After the dust an leaves came flying out ... almost to the food they were having I wasted no time accosting the sweeping fellow and ask him what the hell he was doing ....I did not understand what he said but i knew he uttered something unpleasant to the hearing.. and give him a 2-hand slap which almost popped his eyes out of his sockets... and just before I go i told him to respect Filipinas or any individuals at that parkonwards... so much for a sunday morning   sir lomex32, i may have read your post wrongly, and i stand corrected on that ... all points taken and with due respect, but that doesn't mean "i have a limited brain" ...  ADMINS/MODS : if you see fit that this post does not warrant to be in this thread please delete it ... thank you ... Edited August 8, 2006 by lomex32 Quote Link to comment
rudepnoy4 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 hey face out. im not sizing you up hiphop guys. im just adding here my own personal view regarding balikbayans. dont you point your fingers at someone else baka bumalik yan sayo. dont you see, opinion page ito. nanisis ba ako? nag blame ba ako? did i say i hate you? learn how to read and analize mr peace out! sinasabi ko lang ho ang sa palagay ko ay dahilan kung bakit naimpluwensyahan ng hiphop style ang mga batang balikbayan. ok ho ba peace out?this fool is trippin well then its best for you trick to get your facts straight before you post your own personal view, you clownin on us because the way we dress? and you tellin me how to read and analyze you got to be trippin peace out but i still think your an idiot Quote Link to comment
luckystrike Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 i dont see anything wrong with DH or katulong they are right terms and I dont look down at them knowing how hard they work just to earn a living they deserve MUCH MORE appreciation pls Quote Link to comment
lomex32 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Nobody said they are/were i dont see anything wrong with DH or katulong they are right terms and I dont look down at them knowing how hard they work just to earn a living they deserve MUCH MORE appreciation pls Quote Link to comment
abellana Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 View on Balikbayans.. Hmm.. Being one, I would say someone who longs to come back and visit, recharge and reconnect with the motherland.. Â More Power guys!! Quote Link to comment
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