jopoc Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 ewan ko sa yo. ikaw lang atang ganyan. noong natalo ung talk n text mo sa ginebra sinabi mo dinaya kayo hahaha. ibang klase ka rin dre. pagka nanalo magaling pagka natalo dinaya or natsambahan. ano ba talaga kung lahat ng pinoy ganyan ang thinking e im sorry to say pero kinahihiya kong maging pinoy. why can't you accept it as a man that pacman lost. hindi naman sya dyos para hindi matalo. human being din sya.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> yan naman ang masama sa iyo. ayaw mo tanggapin ang katotohanan. ganyan tayong mga pinoy, hindi natatalo, dinadaya lang. tingnan mo yung ke onyok. yung pacquiao-marquez, yung mga resulta ng elections, hindi naman ako nagsabi na nadaya ang TnT. sabi ko, kinampihan lang sila nina eala. parang wwe lang yun. SCRIPTED. (since OT, i will stop on this matter at this point) as for the newspapers, ano nakalagay? Head-butt sinks Pacquiao - philstar haay, pinoy nga naman. :thumbsdownsmiley: Quote Link to comment
howard_the_duck Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 A Filipino never loses, he either wins or is cheated.Peace Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Head-butt sinks Pacquiao - philstar <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It was a head butt. the commentators said so and it was visible in tv. it was purely accidental given the way that both fighters were fighting. and it did sink him since the gash caused him to not see clearly with his right eye. and any boxing fanatic knows that if you have a cut on your eye, you have a big disadvantage. his cut was targetted time and time again by morales. but to morales' credit, he fought a perfect fight. pacquiao lost and that is also a fact. so what is wrong with that headline? Quote Link to comment
noziuK Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 morales was the better boxer in that fight. the most important thing for manny is to learn. he is still young, for sure he will have another chance. :goatee: Quote Link to comment
Brian® Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 It was a fair loss... Hats off pa din ako kay Manny matibay talaga... maybe Eric is just better of his league talaga... sana lang hindi naging cocky si Manny during the early rounds, yung tipong minomock niya pa si Morales na hindi siay nasasaktan sa suntok nito... and sana hindi na siya nag comment na bad decision nung natalo siya... sana mas hinangaan siya for being humble . Ok so yung cut was a bad call, headbutt talaga pero hindi maiiwasan 'yun eh, it was an honest mistake on the referee's part... Ang sama tuloy ng teaser ni Manny sa diyaryo ngayon.. ALL SOUND. NO FURY!!! Pero as a filipino CHAMPION KA PA RIN SAKIN PACMAN!!! :cool:<{POST_SNAPBACK}> oo nga dapat tumahimik na lang si manny eh. pero ok din kasi bilib na bilib sa kanya yung mga commentator :thumbsupsmiley: . kapag tinatamaan daw si manny ng suntok ni morales parang nakukuryente at nabubuhayan. naging careless lang si manny. mautak pa din si morales. sa rematch dapat iba na ang apporach ni manny sa kanya. OT: mas magandang laban yung undercard! yung mexicanong basag ang mukha pa ang nanalo. galing! :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
Brian® Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 (edited) Head-butt sinks Pacquiao - philstar haay, pinoy nga naman. :thumbsdownsmiley:<{POST_SNAPBACK}> natawa nga ako nung nabasa ko itong headline na ito. :boo: sa boxing website ko pa nabasa ito! nakakahiya talaga. :thumbsupsmiley: Edited March 21, 2005 by briannx Quote Link to comment
stone21 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 let us just accept that pacquiao was defeated by morales....eventhuogh pacquiao lost to morales we should be proud op him coz he fight all the way...he was not knockdown by morales...i know manny will fight him again as soon as possoble..rematch s d solution...go pacquiao..go pinoy Quote Link to comment
newbie182 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 well i dun thinks he's careless. with all the facotrs against him...hard fight to win against...thicker gloves,can only see with one eye..it's the best manny can do is keep on charging hoping he can land the big left...i dun blame him for doing that....GREAT FIGHT THOUGH IT'S ONLY 2 POINTS MORALES....U GOT LUCKY.....!!!!!! GOOOOOOO PINOYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MANNY URE A HERO WIN OR LOSE Quote Link to comment
ruud Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 other than the things already mentioned ... i think manny can't handle popularity. it gets into his head and thinks that the fight is just formality. then when he realizes it, its too hard to reorganize his thoughts, and then he losses his concentration. confused like, ... "what's happening? i'm suppose to win here right?" he doesnt look very determined compared to his fight with barrera. his punches are rock solid. i guess, he wasnt mentally prepared like morales. morales had his plan in his head clear, he did it well. after all, its boxing... so... he boxed his way to victory. i believe manny will have to think and bounce back from this frustrating defeat. learn from it and move forward. a rematch is possible. we have a confusing boxing story now: 1. pacquiao def barrera2. pacquiao draw marquez3. barrera def morales4. morales def pacquiao (pac > bar) and (pac = mar) and (bar > mor) and (mor > pac) who's the best now?????? Quote Link to comment
scott_summers Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 erik morales was just simply too big for him. and judging from the fight,he really lost that one... im not counting him out though... he'll be back for sure Quote Link to comment
Clinks Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Kaya nya eh..kaya nya yun...pero magaling si Morales eh...if Pac barraged him in the first few rounds, he may have won. Problem is, nag strategize sya agad...malay mo na puruhan nya sana si Morales...pero sana may rematch... Quote Link to comment
kanto-terrorist Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Manny is still the most popular despite of the lost. got it from tigerboxing.com IS PACQUIAO THE LEADER OF THE PACK? Matthew Sanderson03/16/2005 - United Kingdom Not since the late ‘70s to the early ‘80s have we seen so many outstanding combatants gathered together in the 122-130 pound region. Salvador Sanchez, Wilfredo Gomez, Carlos Zarate, Azumah Nelson, Lupe Pintor. The list goes on. Classic fights such as Salvador Sanchez v Azumah Nelson, Wilfredo Gomez against Lupe Pintor, and Danny Lopez v Mike Ayala resulted, and can never be replaced. But already, the Barrera-Morales trilogy, the first Brodie-Chi fight and the Marquez-Pacquiao draw have more than lived up to them. The excitement won’t stop there, however, not when Manny Pacquiao and Erik Morales step up to face one another, in what should be the most dangerous fight of both men’s careers. Morales, Marquez, Barrera and Pacquiao are a formidable line up. But is Manny Pacquiao the leader of the pack? While his distinguished contemporaries are Mexican, Pacquiao is from the Philippines. And whereas the Mexican legends (OK, Marquez hasn’t got that far yet) have exhibited silky skills to refine their violence, Manny is raw aggression personified. This has made him the most popular current boxer in the world. His endless stamina, combined with his formidable hand speed and perpetual two-fisted attacks, distinguishes him from the pack. Pacquiao, indeed, reminds one of the great Thai fighters of the 1980s, such as Sot Chitalada and Khaosai Galaxy who secured their legacies in the lower weight classes with similar styles. It is a relentless style that forces opponents out of a comfortable pace, and can cause even the best to cave in. What makes “Pac Man” even more of a handful is his tendency to throw needle sharp combinations, from unexpected angles out of the southpaw stance. It is a difficult style to deal with, and has carried Manny to early success. Pacquiao won the WBC flyweight belt from Chartchai Sasakul in 1998 at the age of 20 and made one successful defence. Manny then lost his belt on the scales, and was stopped in three by Medgoen Singsurat before moving up three divisions (seven pounds) to super bantamweight. Moving up a few pounds might not seem like much, but it can be a huge factor in the lower weight classes. It is a factor that can decide the outcome of evenly matched fights, and is at least partly responsible for 118 pounder Lupe Pintor’s cave in against Wilfredo Gomez back in 1982 at super bantamweight and Gomez’ thrashing at the hands of featherweight Salvador Sanchez a year earlier. Pacquiao’s power, so crucial to his aggressive style, remarkably moved up with him. After stopping Reynante Jamili in two for the WBC International belt, he made five defences of his lightly regarded title before stopping Lehlohonolo Ledwaba in 2001 for the IBF’s more legitimate super bantamweight championship. The Ledwaba fight was Manny’s first in the States, and he promptly hooked up with distinguished trainer Freddie Roach. Roach added several nuances to the champion’s all out aggressive style, such as lateral movement and combination punching, and prepared him for three more title defences (all by knockout) that took him into 2003 and the biggest fight of his career. Moving up to featherweight, he was offered a shot at “People’s Champion” Marco Antonio Barrera, a man now acknowledged as one of the all time great Mexicans. Barrera was on a roll; having beaten both Naseem Hamed and Erik Morales in recent fights, but Manny gave him no respect and drew him into a war. Fighting the best opponent of his entire career, Manny used his superior speed and reflexes to nail his man with rapid combinations before using his quick feet to carry him out of range. It was a clever tactic - every time Pacquiao landed, a frustrated Barrera was unable to come back with counters. Pacquiao repeated the exercise - for 11 whole rounds. In a massive surprise, Manny dominated throughout. He knocked Barrera back with head jarring combinations, hurt him several times, and knocked him over in the third and eleventh. A battered Marco appeared discouraged throughout, and was feeling very sorry for himself before his corner saved him in round 11. It was a superlative performance that endeared Manny to the mainstream public and established him as one of the biggest stars and most dangerous fighters in the sport. The momentum of the win carried him straight into another big fight, against WBA/IBF king Juan Manuel Marquez; a friend of Barrera’s who vowed revenge. Marquez was an excellent fighter and had been the number 1 contender for Naseem Hamed’s WBO title (before Barrera beat him) who avoided his mandatory for a couple of years. Although highly skilled, he always fought off the back foot and many felt that he’d wait too long for Manny to punch and get simply get overwhelmed. It appeared that way in the opening round, when Pacquiao floored him three times with long left hands. After the third knockdown Marquez looked finished, but he survived the round and went on to give Manny severe problems. Marquez, if nothing else, is a master counter puncher whose style ultimately adjusted to Manny’s aggression. By the third round he could see Pacquiao’s deadly left coming, and used deft upper body movements to slip the shot before planting hard right hooks to the body and slashing crosses to the face. Manny’s pressure tactics were then thwarted throughout. Frustrated, he abandoned his busy style and combinations and gave Marquez too much time to think. The Mexican boxed brilliantly throughout the middle stages. A late Pacquiao rally earned the draw, but it should have been a devastating knockout win. Every style has a weakness and “Pac Man’s” flaws became magnified. Like many aggressive types, he is vulnerable to smart boxers. When his aggressive rhythm is messed with, he has difficulty adjusting. And when he throws single shots rather than combinations, he is vulnerable to counters. In spite of this, Manny has claimed that certain factors prevented him from “showing up”. In the first round he claimed to have injured his left hand, which he was unable to use effectively afterward, and suffered painful blisters in his feet that prevented him from cutting off the ring properly. One of the key problems of that fight was Pacquiao’s decision to throw only one punch at a time - perhaps because he hurt his hand, or maybe that he had Marquez down early and often. Despite being a puncher, he can’t just go looking for the one big shot, but needs the more reliable route of throwing combinations. This has been addressed in Manny’s preparation, which his trainer Freddie Roach has been keen to focus on. As such, one hopes to see Manny at his devastating best against Morales, a fierce warrior who nonetheless has never been difficult to hit Quote Link to comment
kanto-terrorist Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 Pacman the aggresive-type pucher/slugger usually will have trouble with smart boxers like morales,marquez and barrera. its good thing naunahan nya si barrera dati kaya nanalo sya. but if based on pure speed and power and brutal aggression, pacquiao will definitely make these mexicans eat lots of rubber and will look like an old rotten punching bags. sna mapagaralan na rin ni pacquiao ang maging smart boxer and not totally rely on his brute power. Quote Link to comment
stone21 Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 pacquiao,ya isa lang sa mga sikat na pilipino boxer, sa ngayon cya ang pinakasikat,pacquiao is a good fighter but because of his high/too much ambition he was lost to morales..pro ok lang yong charge as experience nalang yon ni pacquiao, bawi nalang cya sa rematch... Quote Link to comment
kanto-terrorist Posted March 22, 2005 Share Posted March 22, 2005 (edited) if pac can help, he should fix the backroom issues behind his back. Trainer Fred Roach and Murad Muhammad had been on open rift and throw word war against each other and nasa iisang camp lang sila. pati sa camp ni manny pinopolitika siya. that made me believe that the issue about the gloves are real unlike the socks in the darlington commercial. Edited March 22, 2005 by kanto-terrorist Quote Link to comment
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