howard_the_duck Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 well at least nakabawi din sa pac-man noong draw nya dati... dapat siya panalo kasi doon Quote Link to comment
ZO9zaa Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Pac got "robbed" of his victory four years ago, so this is possibly poetic justice. hehehehe Quote Link to comment
stormgray Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 One of the better write-ups about the match (http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=14851&more=1). See, foreigners like Manny. It's a shame some Filipinos are embarrassingly crab-minded: Pac-Man-Marquez II - Whoever You Think Won, One Thing Is Clear; As Boxing's Most Exciting Fighter Pacquiao Is Back! 16.03.08 - by James Slater: The argument as to just who deserved the decision after Saturday's instant classic between Manny Pacquaio and Juan Manuel Marquez, in their superb rematch, will no doubt go on for some time. Yet one thing the fight proved beyond any doubt is the fact that Pac-Man is once again boxing's number one most thrilling operator. In his last two bouts, against Jorge Solis and Marco Antonio Barrera, it was clear Manny was not firing on all cylinders. As a result, both fights did not produce the pulsating action Pacquiao fights normally do. Well, guess what - Pac-Man is back to doing what he does best, namely putting the fans attending his fights through absolutely pulse quickening drama. Last night's return bout, four years in the making and all, was nothing short of a majestic and glorious battle.. The fight also asked a number of questions, not least, who actually won? Also, the following posers were put forth; can Pacquiao really go any further up in weight? Will there be a third Pacquiao-Marquez bout, was the rematch even better than March 1st's Vazquez-Marquez rubber match? And, finally, can we simply stop talking about a Pacquiao-Ricky Hatton fight? Now to answer these questions one by one. Firstly, for what it's worth, this writer had last night's fight scored as a one point win for Juan Manuel Marquez. The fight was desperately close, however, so the question of who won can only come down to a case of take your pick. One does hope that there are no cries of robbery, though. This fight was too good to be spoiled, at least partially, by any complaints of that nature. The action was dead close, let's leave it at that. Can Pac-Man go up any further in weight? For a guy who made his pro debut down at a mere 106 pounds, the Filipino superstar has already achieved plenty. But to go up to lightweight? That may be biting off a little more than Manny can chew. Super-featherweight looks, to this writer, anyway, about as successfully high as the 29-year-old can go. As it is, Manny has already earned himself the accolade of being the first boxer from his country to win as many as four world titles in different divisions. In short, Pacquaio doesn't need to take risks by going up any higher, his legacy is already cemented beyond any doubt. Will there be a third fight? How can there not be? The fights, both one and two, were absolute barnburners, and it could be argued (indeed, it almost certainly will be) that we have yet to see a clear winner in either fight between the two men. As great as fights one and two were, last night's return especially, there will surely be a third clash. Hopefully this year. Was last night's great fight even better than March 1st's rubber match war between Israel Vazquez and Rafael Marquez? Again, it's down to individual opinion, but I say yes. The drama was absolutely agonising last night, and the action more than delivered. Sure, the March 1st fight between Juan Manuel's brother and the magnificent Israel Vazquez delivered big style too, but for me Pacquaio-Marquez II topped it. Just. Whatever the case, though, we have almost certainly seen 2008's fight of the year - whether or not you think it took place two weeks ago, or just last night. How about talk of a Pac-Man-Ricky Hatton clash? No. In a word, no. This fight should not happen. Yes, I know Manny enters the ring at around 144 pounds or so, but he is just too small for Hatton. There is no shortage of other, equally intriguing fights out there for Pacquaio, so why go after a natural light-welterweight like "The Hitman?" Such a fight would no doubt prove incredibly lively and dramatic for a while, but it wouldn't be a long while. Manny is not the hardest guy in the world to hit, and get hit hard and often he would by Hatton. Against a man so much naturally bigger, it would simply not be fair. Pacquiao is fearless, and would take the fight in a heartbeat, without question, but this particular mountain would be one too high to climb. For the time being, however, whatever path he chooses to follow in the coming months, let's all congratulate, not only Manny Pacquaio, but also the equally superb Juan Manuel Marquez, on a fight exceedingly well fought last night at The Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. Without any question, Pacquiao-Marquez II was a fight for the ages! Quote Link to comment
revi Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 anyway, i think nakahinga ng maluwag si gma/malacanang people. time to celebrate. UNITY WALK photo-ops galore! hahaha... Nice one! Suddenly, because of this win, the Filipino people are now pro-government? hehehe.. Nakalimutan na ang lahat? I hope not.. Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 @stormgray & Legionnaire. ganyan din ang nakikita ko at naririnig. pareho tayo ng mga sinsasabi.. at ako may HBO-PVP ako na video dito saakin ngayon. i watch it again and again and again. then ako nag score. mas biased yung score nung unang judge na 115-112 for JMM. 115-112 for MP is OK! pero mas ok ang 114-113 for MP! sa totoo lang try to watch it again. tignan nyo kung gaano ka diin ang suntok ni MP. kung gaano kalakas ang suntok ni MP. unlike yung punch ni JMM. mas busy si pacman. mas marami pinakawalan suntok. Quote Link to comment
PreventerWind Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 whats funny about us filipinos is were TOO PROUD hahaha,may hati kb sa panalo ni pacqiao? or ung kasikatan nya? kahit manalo siya panget parin ang tingin sa pilipinas,no amount of his glory can change our countrys image to the perspective of other nations. in short parang nakikisawsaw tayo sa walang laman na baso.pacqiao WAS a good boxer...BEFORE he involved himself with politics,etc.now hes not the peoples champion except for those who still fantasize about him...he WAS the people champion...but not anymore. maybe lito atienza's champion or GMA's champion but definitely NOT this country's' looking at the scoring of every round...it was LUCK and maybe influence that won pacqiao that match... hindi na cya tulad dati...people champ amp Mexicano ka no? haha! Wala akong pakialam sa naging desisyon ng judges. Ilang taon nang dinadaya ang Pilipinas sa larangan ng Boxing kaya kahit sabihing daya o chamba ung panalo ni Pacman ok lang un kasi Pilipino un eh natural dun ako kakampi. Tama si Legionnaire nakakahiya ung mga Pilipinong kagaya mo :thumbsdownsmiley: Quote Link to comment
jumpman611 Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Mexicano ka no? haha! Wala akong pakialam sa naging desisyon ng judges. Ilang taon nang dinadaya ang Pilipinas sa larangan ng Boxing kaya kahit sabihing daya o chamba ung panalo ni Pacman ok lang un kasi Pilipino un eh natural dun ako kakampi. Tama si Legionnaire nakakahiya ung mga Pilipinong kagaya mo :thumbsdownsmiley: i must agree that it kinda surprised me a bit that yesterday's split decision went OUR way... honestly, i couldn't even remember the last time a filipino won on the score cards in a close fight like this. i am not one of the ring judges so it doesn't matter how i scored the fight... after the 12th round, like most of us here, i was just hoping that pacquiao will strap the wbc super featherweight belt around his waist. well, he did... and that just brightens up everybody's weekend, does it? Quote Link to comment
jumpman611 Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 off topic rant... i don't know what's going through the minds of people sending out text messages about the fight's outcome even before gma 7's / solar's coverage started (which spurs another lengthy topic, by the way)... i don't care if you have your pay-per-views or you have somebody from the states feeding you the details... next time, please shut the f#&k up and just keep the results to yourselves. Quote Link to comment
pogingpogi2x Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 (edited) nakaktuwa din talaga dito mag basa, sa probinsya 2 ang live mga bro! Solar All Access & Super Sports! para sakin yung 115-112 na score malayo... yung 114-113 para kay para kay pacman yun ang close talaga! Kita nyo naman nung na knock down ni pacman si marquez yung pag bagsak nya pero pinakita nya kung gaano sya katibay. Kita nyo din nung isang mata ang guamgana kay pacman at inakala ng lahat na matatalo na sya ng bigla nyang binaligtad ang laban. Ang ganda ng laban gang sa huli at kay Manny talaga ang panalo. Nga lang kung aakyat talaga sya e di nya mapagbibigyan c marquez hehehe. at Isa pa kaya yung iba di maganda ang commnets kasi mas gusto natin pakita e knock out! A win is a Win! Edited March 16, 2008 by pogingpogi2x Quote Link to comment
zuliatardis Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 off topic, they mispelled Ciara Sotto's name with Sierra Soto... the girl who sang the Star Spangled Banner is Fil-Am Mexican named Jasmine Villegas... di ko yata nakita si jinky... galing ng timing ni singson magpunas ng mukha ni pacman...sinadya nung nasa camera na...malinis naman mukha ni manny...napaghahalata... si manny magsasalita pa sana sa mic pero in-interview na si JMM agad..."i also want to thank the..........." Quote Link to comment
rahlptoh Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 A win is a win! but then Im not convince hehhe, y?? I expect more highlights and more pacman's round than marquez! and napapanood ko un practices nya and interviews na nabibilib ako dahil anloopet ng training nya,and sabi pa ni roach my bago technique na dinidevelop si pacman. wala ako nakitang bago! and ung knock down sa 3rd round? dapat nun 4th round nasundan un sabi pa nga ng commentator sa GMAnun hindi ciado nagba bounce paa ni marquez which is a sign na hilo pa si marquez but pacman did not get that oppurtunity eh di sana 4th round palang TAPOS na laban, whose Agree with me?? but then its just a viewer comment, it my own point of view as a espectator of the GREAT PACMAN. uhm un lang hehhehe hindi ako happy hahhah.. Quote Link to comment
Igniz Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Dapat si Marquez ang panalo. Quote Link to comment
LYCHEE Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 (edited) hair-line win for pacman...some may not be convinced, but truly a classic battle in its own right. for the right price, the business may still remain "un-finished" & accept a re-match in the offing... otherwise, time for manny to go up to 136lbs and train his sights vs. diaz. either way, pacman's corner stands to win big bucks--big time. :thumbsupsmiley: Edited March 17, 2008 by LYCHEE Quote Link to comment
rub120 Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 It was not a convincing win by MP but the fight exposed the weakness in MP's fighting style.Against technically superior fighters he would always have a hardtime beating them. He never body punched, he's always head hunting. Lucky for him, he could take the best punch JMM could dish out. The next fighter could be different. It was not a convincing win by MP but the fight exposed the weakness in MP's fighting style.Against technically superior fighters he would always have a hardtime beating them. He never body punched, he's always head hunting. Lucky for him, he could take the best punch JMM could dish out. The next fighter could be different. Quote Link to comment
DJTranz Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 galing ng timing ni singson magpunas ng mukha ni pacman...sinadya nung nasa camera na...malinis naman mukha ni manny...napaghahalata... tsk tsk tsk at dami talagang usap usapan sa questionable win ni manny (money) pac-man pacquiao pero ang talagang FEELING-FEELINGan na "WINner" ang yung isang ungas dito :grr: asa ka pa kumag ka ha sa 2010 buuuusssssseeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttttttttt !!!!! Quote Link to comment
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