edc Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Napanuod ko sa news.....nasa vigas si pacquiao....Naka-Segway ah Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 sa Vigas? anu ginagawa nya dun? Quote Link to comment
edc Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 sa Vigas? anu ginagawa nya dun? with Chavit Singson....."Adopted Child ng Vigan"....... Kasi dati adopted child daw sya ng manila nung nandun pa si atienza......nung wala na si atienza di ba dinedma nya si Mayor Lim.....nagalit mga manileno sabi eh manila naman pupuntahan mo eh hindi si lim....Sagot naman ni pacquiao eh adopted daw sya ni atienza hindi daw ng manila Pero astig yung Segway nya.....ang mahal nun sa states.....Kung pwede nga lang magdala dito nun itago sa maleta para hindi ma-tax..... Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Baka gusto nya rin maging adopted son ng pampanga? Anyway, I think its about time that he squares of with JMM. Tama na kasi ang mga pashowbiz na laban. MBB and EM were great mexican boxing legends, but arguably he fought them at the time when their boxing careers were already loosing its prime. Its time for him to fight for a title. He has been the top contender for the wbc superfeather weight world title, and its about time that he works his butt off so that he could wear that belt on his weight. I understand na hindi masyado kasi maganda pasok ng pera with a JMM fight, but I think his market value would increase once he is already wearing that belt. It would add up to the number of WBC world title that he has. Mas dadami ang magagandang laban sa kanya pag nag-world champion na siya uli Quote Link to comment
boygenpact Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 New golden era launched by Filipino featherweight superstarBy Conrad Cariño, Senior Desk Editorhttp://www.manilatimes.net/national/2007/n...071104top2.html The birth of a golden era in a boxing division requires a three- or four-cornered fight, with the triumphant fighter gaining the right to be proclaimed the greatest boxer of the era—even if he is not from the heavyweight division. Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier and George Foreman battled it out for supremacy in what is considered the most competitive era in the heavyweight division’s history. In the end, it was Ali who was proclaimed “The Greatest.” In reality, Ali owed a lot to having Frazier and Foreman for his rivals. They were, like Ali, world champions and Olympic gold medalists. After Ali’s heavyweight golden era, it was the turn of the welterweight-middleweight division to give boxing another golden era. It happened because four superstars—Sugar Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns, Roberto Duran and Marvin Hagler—vied to be No. 1. No one ever expected that after the magnificence of Ali and Leonard, boxing’s next golden era would be launched in the featherweight-superfeatherweight division. Much less did anyone ever think a Filipino named Manny Pacquiao would emerge as the sport’s new supernova. A phenomenon Pacquiao’s bouts—whether with pugilists also of superstar status or with lesser lights—invariably dominate the box-office ticket sales and TV viewership. The praises he gets from critics and specialists are phenomenal, considering that he actually does not hold a world title belt from any of the ruling boxing organizations. His only title is that of World Boxing Council (WBC) international superfeatherweight champion. Even without a world title, Pacquiao is the “universally recognized” superfeatherweight champion. This is a first in boxing history. The prestigious Ring Magazine for the longest time has been ranking him as the top boxer in his division. Pacquiao’s popularity rose sharply after he defeated Lehlo Ledwaba in June 2001, to win the IBF superbantamweight championship. He went on to challenge Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales, the dominant figures in the division before the Filipino arrived. Future hall of famers Barrera has four titles in different divisions and his greatest fight was against featherweight champion Naseem Hamed, a flamboyant fighter who was actually a 3-1 favorite to win over the Mexican. Morales was also a champion in four divisions. Both fighters never suffered knock out losses before facing Pacquiao. The three-cornered rivalry between Pacquiao, Barrera and Morales remarkably eclipsed the drama of what was happening in the welterweight-middleweight divisions. There, Oscar de la Hoya failed to avenge his losses to Shane Mosley and Felix Trinidad, who retired after being knocked out by middleweight champ Bernard Hopkins, who in turn knocked out de la Hoya. Meanwhile, the heavyweight division turned into a circus when Mike Tyson started acting like a clown in the ring. Pacquiao established his supremacy in the featherweight-superfeatherweight division with an exclamation point in every match. Pacquiao won two of his three matches with Morales, two by a knockout. Nobody had ever done that to Morales. In late 2003, in his first fight against Barrera, Pacquiao won the first fight with such brutality that the referee had to stop the fight in the 11th round. On October 6, in their second fight, the Filipino did not need to knock Barrera out. The whole world saw who the undisputed master was—a judgment punctuated by the foul blow the Mexican gave Pacquiao while the referee was talking to them. Pacquiao even did better than Ali in establishing his domination in his division. Ali had to go through hell to beat Frazier in their third fight, the “Thrilla in Manila.” Ali was even knocked down by Frazier in their first fight, and his second fight with Foreman was also aborted (some believe Foreman could have beaten him). Even Leonard’s supremacy in the welterweight-middleweight wars of the 1980s is not as well-established as Pacquiao’s. Leonard only drew in his second bout with Hearns. And, to this day, some sports historians doubt Leonard’s decision win over Hagler. Leonard even failed to knock out Duran (which Hearns did easily). Pound for pound the bestIf there is one fighter whose dominance in his division excites boxing fans almost as much as Pacquiao does, it would be super welterweight Roger Mayweather, who is ranked number one in the pound-for-pound ranking (on the list of best fighters today). On this list Pacquiao occupies second place. While Mayweather’s fight against de la Hoya got the most pay-per-views in boxing history, he has never figured in a fierce three or four-cornered fight for supremacy, as Ali, Leonard and Pacquiao did. If Mayweather retires now, he may end up like Rocky Marciano—with a great fight record and a championship reign. But he would not rate among the all-time greats because he did not have formidable and accomplished rivals. Even Joe Louis is ranked higher than Marciano for the simple reason that Louis took on tough opposition. Notably, Marciano has a knock out win against an aging Louis. Ricky Hatton is set to test Mayweather when the former challenges him for the superwelter-weight title. Hatton is touted to be the best boxer ever produced by Great Britain. But he is not yet regarded as a future hall of famer—like Pacquiao’s Barrera and Morales. Hatton has not also gained the stature where he can strike fear in his opponent’s hearts, the way Hearns and Duran did. Likewise, Mayweather’s boxing style pales in comparison with Leonard, who also took risks and did not mind getting hit just to land his combinations. Have you ever wondered why Mayweather’s face is regarded as “pretty?” Mayweather’s cautiousness (witnessed most graphically in his fight with de la Hoya) may not also sit well with fans who want more excitement. Boxing fans will always want a knockout, the way basketball fans crave for the dunk, and baseball fans for a home run. And Pacquiao delivers the exciting knockouts on a good night. Quote Link to comment
don juan casanova Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Manny should fight Juan Manuel Marquez and not waste time for fighters like Edwin Valero he who wants to challenge Manny, he still young at the age of 28 years old he's still the top of his game, he should fight the best of his division. Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I understand na hindi masyado kasi maganda pasok ng pera with a JMM fight It's not really that Dragonei, the real reason is because JMM is a "difficult" fighter. I saw the fight this weekend. Hayop talaga ang skills ni JMM. He is not a knock-out artist, but he is the consumate boxer. A Pacman vs JMM fight would be the bull fighting the matador. As a fight fan, I want JMM to win. But as a Filipino, I want Pacman to win. Medyo hati ang puso ko dito. But, loyalty to country/man wins in the end. Hehehehe... PACMAN pa rin. I'm sure Pacman himself is dying to get his hands on JMM. He wants to prove himself (IMHO, he lost the first fight to JMM... though it was adjudged a draw). The fighter in Manny wants to settle the score once and for all. But his managers, wisely, would rather take this DIFFICULT fight somewhere later in the day. Perhaps 2-3 fights more (for both fighters) and if neither one loses, then this fight becomes INEVITABLE! At ang good side nito, dahil hinog sa puno ang laban, siguradong MEGA-DOLLAR BLOCKBUSTER EVENT ITO... there would be no need to even drum-up interest. This is the fight real fight fans want to see. ---------- P.S. f#&k you again DYAN CASTILLEJO... SHET, even in a fight not involving Osacr dela Hoya, you had to go out of your way to mention him. Putang inang hayskul crush yan... pakantot ka na lang kay golden boy para matigil ka na... stop ruining good fights with your inane color commentary... Argh, and I thought boxing is the last refuge of us men to escape the kikayness of women... again, f#&k you DYAN! Quote Link to comment
MRyoso Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 pacman should face jmm! stop ducking. if you really want to prove that you are the best in the division, you should fight the best. go for the title! another excuse that pacman and his camp will make is that a fight with jmm has no money! WTF! the people are asking for it!fight JMM before moving up to fight the diaze's. Quote Link to comment
don juan casanova Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Well it all comes down with money and popularity not the legacy which is full of s@%t... there are lot of good fighters outder who have what it takes but can't prove it. Quote Link to comment
dragonei Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 It's not really that Dragonei, the real reason is because JMM is a "difficult" fighter. I saw the fight this weekend. Hayop talaga ang skills ni JMM. He is not a knock-out artist, but he is the consumate boxer. A Pacman vs JMM fight would be the bull fighting the matador. As a fight fan, I want JMM to win. But as a Filipino, I want Pacman to win. Medyo hati ang puso ko dito. But, loyalty to country/man wins in the end. Hehehehe... PACMAN pa rin. I'm sure Pacman himself is dying to get his hands on JMM. He wants to prove himself (IMHO, he lost the first fight to JMM... though it was adjudged a draw). The fighter in Manny wants to settle the score once and for all. But his managers, wisely, would rather take this DIFFICULT fight somewhere later in the day. Perhaps 2-3 fights more (for both fighters) and if neither one loses, then this fight becomes INEVITABLE! At ang good side nito, dahil hinog sa puno ang laban, siguradong MEGA-DOLLAR BLOCKBUSTER EVENT ITO... there would be no need to even drum-up interest. This is the fight real fight fans want to see. ---------- P.S. f#&k you again DYAN CASTILLEJO... SHET, even in a fight not involving Osacr dela Hoya, you had to go out of your way to mention him. Putang inang hayskul crush yan... pakantot ka na lang kay golden boy para matigil ka na... stop ruining good fights with your inane color commentary... Argh, and I thought boxing is the last refuge of us men to escape the kikayness of women... again, f#&k you DYAN! Grabe ha sobra galit kay dyan. O easy lang easy lang Anyway Marquez is obviously an outside fighter, he boxes with finesse and calculated rhythm. He usually starts out slow but works like a steam engine. At talagang ang galing ng footing nya. Manny will definetly have his hands full. I thought that JMM won that first square off with MAnny. Manny got a little confident after that knockdown points he got. He will definetly have his hands full with JMM. Brawling wont work here Pero un na nga, stop ducking and making excuses. Now is the perfect time na labanan nya na si Marquez. If I am not mistaken WBC is already pressuring manny to fight for that title. Ilang taon na siyang number 1 contender tapos di naman lumalaban for the title. Ok pera pera nga lang ang boxing. But the good fights is where the money is at. A lot of people got disappointed with that Solis fight. Mas tataas market value ni Manny once matalo niya si Marquez, because a lot more will challenge him in his division Quote Link to comment
jerzz Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 (edited) pacman should face jmm! stop ducking. if you really want to prove that you are the best in the division, you should fight the best. go for the title! another excuse that pacman and his camp will make is that a fight with jmm has no money! WTF! the people are asking for it!fight JMM before moving up to fight the diaze's. Boxing nowadays is ALL ABOUT MONEY The big money fight would be Pacquiao vs David Diaz (WBC Lightweight Champion) or Manny vs Juan Diaz (WBO, IBF, WBA Lightweight Champion) Both Lightweight Champs are brawlers and will not give an inch. Walang urungan dito matira ang matibay, tulog kung tulog. That is what the people wants and Manny wants to challenge for the Lightweight Crown as he is having a hard time with 130lbs. We know that JMM will not mixed it out, he will counterpunch but will not engage in a fight to finish brawl. Ayoko na makakita nung kagaya ng Pacquaio & Barrera na ayaw lumaban yung isa. Edited November 5, 2007 by jerzz Quote Link to comment
edc Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Palusot lang ni pacquiao yan yung pera.....Pag iba boxer sya pa nanghahamon....pero pag dating kay Juan Manuel eh negotiation daw.... Quote Link to comment
boy anis Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 sino na ba makakalaban ni pacman? any news? Quote Link to comment
hardtohandle Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Basta ang Pacquiao-Marquez 2, bad for the business para kay Manny yan, hehehehhe! Di man sya matalo ni JMM siguradong mae-expose ang weaknesses nya... Quote Link to comment
MRyoso Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Boxing nowadays is ALL ABOUT MONEY The big money fight would be Pacquiao vs David Diaz (WBC Lightweight Champion) or Manny vs Juan Diaz (WBO, IBF, WBA Lightweight Champion) Both Lightweight Champs are brawlers and will not give an inch. Walang urungan dito matira ang matibay, tulog kung tulog. That is what the people wants and Manny wants to challenge for the Lightweight Crown as he is having a hard time with 130lbs. We know that JMM will not mixed it out, he will counterpunch but will not engage in a fight to finish brawl. Ayoko na makakita nung kagaya ng Pacquaio & Barrera na ayaw lumaban yung isa. fyi, the marquez and pacquiao fight will be more marketable than the pacquaio vs david diaz fight man, ano pa palusot ni pacman ngayon?! the people are asking for it, and pbviosuly it will generate a lot of PPV sharesBasta ang Pacquiao-Marquez 2, bad for the business para kay Manny yan, hehehehhe! Di man sya matalo ni JMM siguradong mae-expose ang weaknesses nya... bad for business even if the people are asking for it? bad for manny coz he might lose! show your balls money! fight marquez! Quote Link to comment
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