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I think it is still possible for a couple to be in love and not have sex. Rare, but possible. It doesn't mean though, that one or both are not being driven crazy by horniness.

It's just a question of opportunity and how sexually active their couple-friends are.

women want men who can hear their unspoken words.

Kung ibabahay naman ang thera, either maitim ang balak ng benefactor or sadyang mabait lang na gustong makatulong.

it's still a good chance even if it's the easy way out for them.

There are a handful of exceptions as love comes from the most unexpected places. But money is still key in relationships like this, especially if it involves the retirement of the girl from the sex industry.

if a guy has a lot of money and is loved by the girl, she will retire.

if a guy has a lot of money, but is unloved by the girl, the girl may still retire. Tiis na lang iyong girl and try niya mahalin iyong guy.

If a guy has a little money but is loved truly by the girl, the girl may still retire. Tipid na lang kung kaya.

if a guy has no money, but is loved truly by the girl, it is unlikely that she will retire.

One thing that I have learned from my experiences with this kind of set up, is that in reality this kind of relationship is that it's based on emotions, and what's funny is that all emotions are fleeting, you're not sad all the time, you're not angry all the time, you're not happy all the time and you're not in love all the time..it may be best describe as a relationship that is based on something that is so fleeting..so kung masaya ka for the past few months it does not necessarily mean na magiging masaya ka pa din for the next few months, how to keep it that way is a big challenge.

 

The question is after ba mawala un feelings mo para sa kanya eh, kaya mo pa ba I maintain kung anong meron kayo considering the reality kung san at pano kayo nagkakilala???

We cannot anchor anything on feelings because feelings change. It's not binary where everything can be answered with a simple yes or a simple no. Or ones and zeroes.

As anyone who has truly been in love knows, logic alone cannot describe the feelings. You just know that you're in love. This is probably the case with smart women who choose to be with married men. Logic says don't. Society says don't. Even your instincts say don't. But you are happy in your misery and there's nowhere else you'd rather be.

It becomes exponentially more complex with relationships with women (and men) in the sex trade. Locke and Descartes may rise from the grave to convince you that it's wrong, that it's bound to fail, that there's just one chance in a million that your love will survive.

In the end you just focus on your relationship having a chance to succeed--even if it's just a million to one.

Hmmm no. I've had sex with women are impossible to be in love with me. Unless I was just a proxy for someone they're imagining.

bilmoko girls. and those who are rude to their servants or the waiters, cashiers, etc.

Usually no.

Unless the girl is obviously unhappy and am really attracted to the girl. Like trophy GFs--always on display, never at play.

 

 

 

If you wanna prove you are the ideal gentleman any woman would want, then get someone like.... Anne Curtis Halimbawa to introduce you to her family on a sunday barbecue. Yun bibilib pa ako

if you are expecting guys here to suddenly look for an Anne Curtis para bumilib ka, you will be disappointed. Nobody here is posting to impress you. Or me. Or most other people. Nobody here needs our approval.

Most will agree that the sex industry is the worst place to go and deliberately look for love. for both girl and boy. But love finds you whether you seek it or not. So what do you do if you're in such a messy situation? You can get drunk of course. Instead you can seek advice in a forum like this. And once they share their experience, what do we do? We can mock them or laugh at them. Or instead we can also help and guide them. We can pound the pulpit of moral indignation. Or instead we can offer empathy and hope.

I look at this thread as an informal support structure for those who found love in the spas or MPs or KTVs or with PSPs. There is no room for people who demand to be impressed.

Men go to these places for a variety of reasons, but love is rarely among them.

Some men go to a spa or MP to fulfil a fetish or experience a sexual act that their regular partner cannot or will not provide. Let's say his partner thinks oral sex is dirty, immoral even. He'll go to a place where he can get a blowjob. Or take the case of a prominent media person. He loves "handjobs" that don't involve hands. I don't think his wife or his GFs can even contemplate such an act.

These guys are neither desperate nor a bunch of losers. A friend doesn't mind paying 5 digits for a hook up, when given his good looks and confidence, he can easily pick up a girl from a bar. It's the quest to get something different. He maintains that sex with a real pro is still different, and not a level his innocent wife can reach. And I think there are still many spa-goers who have enough mojo and confidence to ask regular girls out. Successfully.

The real danger is when a man with zero romantic history starts to frequent these places. And the only way he can see and touch a naked woman's body is by paying. It is easy to confuse a woman's touch with love. Paid or free. After all, the dick, not the stomach is still the surest way to a man's heart.

women want someone who can make them feel vulnerable.

because their self-importance is only expressed through their fist. and they use aggression to hide their insecurities and weaknesses.

Oo. Marupok ako eh.

Not True

Tama. Di porket panget, loyal.

Minsan may mga magagandang nai-intimidate ang karamihan. Kaya walang nanliligaw sa kanila. Except iyong di masyadong guwapo.

Some guys will lump spa therapists with MPAs or PSPs, but there is a one key difference.

MPAs and PSPs offer ATW sex while therapists offer a range, an option to clients. It ranges from a simple HJ to, in some cases, all the way. This uncertainty on the services offered creates the most cruel mind games.

She'd probably assure you that she has her limits, and then you read a graphic FR stating otherwise. And then you read another. Would you believe her? For how long?

Then there's the nebulous acronym GFE. What does that mean to you? Does she do GF/BF things with random strangers? That your intimate moments are not unique--that they're shared with random strangers for a fee?

What about when she flirts on the threads? Do you believe her when she says it's just work?

Mahirap. The guy has to have the patience of a saint and a stomach made of steel. And he has to in love.

Sometimes it's not just for your own good, its for the theras good too. If for some reason she really likes you too, she will find it hard to do her job now that she's committed to someone. Even if you're okay knowing other men get to touch her, do things only you should be able to do, she may not be okay with. Your number one priority if you want to continue is get her out of that industry if you can't then just stop now.

Many years ago before spas sprouted everywhere, MPs were the main option if you wanted release.

It was in this environment where I met a girl, at that time just about a month in the industry. We clicked and hit it off and eventually became a couple. After a while, she said our intimate moments were guilt-filled as just a few hours she spent time with random strangers for a fee.

So she quit and I was ready to support her financially. After all, she needs an alternative to her lost income. To my surprise, she didn't ask for money--instead she worked as an admin in some company. Work was hard and pay was low, but she was happy. And our intimate moments were more intense as there was no more guilt.

It is easy to be cynical about women in the spa or MP industry. And rightly so. There are so many hustlers out there with their own brand of drama, but there are a still a decent few. The challenge is finding these "few."

magpakamatay..

Wow. Wag naman. Inom na lang. or get a haircut.

only if it comes naturally, and unplanned.

This is the thread that people think of when they see me on a date.

Too many people forget that it's not just about money, or the size of your tool, or the model of your car. Or even your height.

A guy has to connect with a girl on several levels: intellectually, maybe spiritually, and especially emotionally. Otherwise you'll both get bored.

There are many cases wherein taller guys are preferred, but If a girl really likes you height doesn't matter.

I've dated girls who are taller than me and since I cannot make myself taller, they adjust. They either don't wear heels when we're together, or they let me walk on the sidewalk while they do on the street. Or they wear clothes that make them seem less tall. And sometimes they're just oblivious about the height difference.

wala yata akong na experience na friends kong thera na ayaw magbigay na ng es. nagiging mas hot nga sila sa es kapag naging friend ko na sila haha. wala ng hiyaan kami.bigay hilig na kunbaga

I think kilala ko iyong ilan sa mga friends mong iyan. At least two of them naging ka-close ko rin at swerte ka bro.

May ilan kasi pag naging barkada mo na at nakasama mo sa maraming lakad, awkward na.

Kung ang lalaki naghahanap ng kaibigang babae, mas mainam na pumunta na lang siya sa McDonalds at makipagkilala sa mga kumakain dun. Kesa pumunta sa spa at maghanap ng friends.

Kasi di naman natin pag-aaksayahan ng sobrang oras ang isang therapist kung di tayo attracted sa kanila. At least, dun nagsisimula yun. At di natin sila kikilalanin ng mas malalim kesa normal.

Meron ba sa mga GMs na titingin sa mga larawan, pipili, at sasabihing itong girl na ito gusto kong maging kaibigan? Wala. Ganun din pag may showup. Attraction nurtures curiousity.

Ang mga lalaki nagpupunta sa spa para maghanap ng Ms. Universe. Hindi ng Ms. Friendship.

super pogi ata kayo 10 tears ago?? wala kasing ibang reason para tumangi ang babae ng tip.. kung hindi na pogian sa inyo..

I'm not pogi ten years ago. Or twenty years ago. I'm not handsome and neither am I rich. And no girl will confuse me with Ron J or James Deen.

My point is: When a girl in the industry starts to refuse to accept the tip, she wants something more than money. It can be time. It can be love. Or even a chance to feel like a normal girl again.

lakas ng appeal mo Bro. seldom can we find these theras even offering free sercice and even offer to "garahe" them. you are such a lucky guy.

Hahahaha! hindi noh. I know that you've also had your share of relationships with beautiful girls. Saka in my case, 15 years ago also means more than 50 lbs ago.

Plus you know me: I dress simply. so simply that some girls readily believe I'm just a jeepney driver.

Dito ka pala Bro. Makasagot na nga. I think it is very seldom that a thera even she is your gf will refuse the tip because she needed it badly. she may call the tip differently but still it is money we are talking about. if you like the person, you are happy when they are happy. as you have mentioned to me in the past, mas mahal pa ang service na libre kaysa may bayad which I agree. pero we need intimacy to give meaning to our lives which this relationship fills the void.

I've always had this "rule." If you visit her in the spa or MP or KTV, she has to accept the tip. Think of it as opportunity cost, simply because while you were inside the cubicle she could've gotten other clients. If you meet outside, of course no tip is necessary.

I say it's a "rule" because it's rarely followed as almost all the girls I've been close to has refused the tip. Or money from me in general.

In one case the girl refused the tip even if I knew she really really needed the money. She just told me the money will come elsewhere.

In another case from about 2000/2001 she was making so much that she once joked na "kaya niya akong ibahay." And she was right. Once in a while I still think of her explanation on why she chose a relationship with me. She was so beautiful, with the face of Marian Rivera but with gentler features. She could've chosen better looking or richer guys or those with more free time, but she chose me. She just told me that I made her feel normal and I could understand things just by looking at her eyes.

once she stops asking for money.. then she would ask for something you can least likely to give.. your undivided "love" and attention.. which would necessitate than you TRUST her unconditionally.. then deceit and misdirection may come into play.. THE KEY WORD ISN'T M O N E Y... IT IS THE A S K I N G.. once she stops asking.. and starts giving.. then there is a chance she might be for REAL..

Yes, free sex is more expensive that paid sex.