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#41 rooster69ph

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Posted 06 November 2015 - 08:51 PM

Who cares about the Philippone Travel Guide? My question is if it has any use. If the bust of Marcos has no use, then there is also no use for that Aquino statue.


Uulitin ko ha ... Ang sabi para raw sa pag commemorate ng slain of Ninoy. Eh yun marcos bust ano bang silbi kaya pinagawa?

Nahihiya pa kayong sabihin na isa lang ito sa mga walang kwentang pinagaksayahan ng pera ng bayan para sa kanyang pansariling kapakanan.

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Posted 06 November 2015 - 09:04 PM

This convoluted post does not even remotely discredit my source.  Pano ba yan?  :lol:

  

May ganun? Eh di wow!


So tell me, how is my source inconsistent? Because it does not agree with your source? Just because your source does not agree with my source doesn't mean it is inconsistent. Your source is an opinion. My source gives the numbers that prove that Marcos won the 1986 elections.


Sa pananalita mo pa lang halatang wala ka kamuwangmuwang kung ano ang sinasabi ko. Halatang di mo sinuri/binasa maige un article pati na rin yun pinakitang reference nun article na pinagkunan mo.


My source? My source is namfrel mismo...si JoCon pa ang nagsabi. Official statement from namfrel

Yun pinagcopy paste mo ang may problema...sabi niya ayon sa namfrel panalo si makoy pero un reference na pinakita niya sabi si cory ang panalo sa namfrel. Next time wag basta copy paste pag may nakita ka sa tingin mo papabor sa argumento mo. Check mo rin nang di ka nadadale. In short the what is being stated in the article you posted does not jive even with what's written from the reference of the one who wrote it.

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Posted 06 November 2015 - 09:06 PM


It's a matter of opinion. If you think it is "walang kwenta", that is your opinion. At the end of the day, who would care about your opinion?


So anong kwenta? Wala naman kayong masabi.

O baka naman para gawing pader na ihian ng mga ibaloy?

Edited by rooster69ph, 06 November 2015 - 09:24 PM.


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Posted 06 November 2015 - 09:07 PM

My question in the post that you quoted was "Bakit ni isa sa kanila wala sa kulungan?" The conviction was overturned by the SC. Bakit hindi mo din pakita?

Ikaw ang magpakita. Hanap ka ng source mo.

 

Ang lagay eh ako uutusan mo maghanap ng material para sayo? Asa.  :lol:


Edited by Eddy Syet, 06 November 2015 - 09:08 PM.


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Posted 06 November 2015 - 09:16 PM

Another convoluted and nonsensical post. Another post which does not, not even remotely, discredit my source. Gibberish.  :lol:

 

Sinong source ba sinasabi mo? Yung link na pinost mo dito about the NAMFREL and COMELEC counts? Si Tanodra ba yun? Who the hell is he? Care to share?  :lol:

 

Will he hold a candle to Raissa Robles? Or Beth Day-Romulo? 



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 09:34 PM

The way I see it, it is you who does not understand the essence of my source. Stop projecting. 

Yeah sure. A guy who became the first trade secretary of Aquino. He really is a credible source.  :lol:

Speaking of projecting...its none other but you. Buta na hihirit pa. Sabi ng source mo marcos won pero dun sa reference na ipinapakita mismo sa same article pagbinasa mo ang sabi si cory ang nanalo sa namfrel.

E ano ? Huwag mong kalimutan na ikaw ang naglabas at nag post ng supposed namfrel count na yan ... Wag mo rin kalimutan na dun sa ipinost mo sinulat din na may disclosure about jocon being trade secretary of Cory and yet you posted it to support your argument.

Unfortunately you didn't do your due dilligence ayun ang nangyare ...nadale

The OFFICIAL vote count by the NAMFREL(after Marcos left Malacañang and went directly to Paoay, Ilocos Norte. Yes, NOT Hawaii) which was headed by Jose Concepcion, Jr. (rewarded later by Mrs. Aquino to become her Trade Secretary) are as follows:
Ferdinand E. Marcos: 10, 635, 458 votes
Corazon C. Aquino: 9, 853, 456 votes

Edited by rooster69ph, 06 November 2015 - 09:37 PM.


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Posted 06 November 2015 - 09:37 PM

Who the hell is Raissa Robles?  :lol:

 

 

 

Eh di i-research mo. To borrow from your own words. Marami namang search engine dyan.  :lol:

 

Bakit di mo itanong kung sino si Beth Day-Romulo na isa sa mga sumulat ng mga popular na anti-Marcos books? Kasi kilala mo? HAHAHA!  ;)



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 09:38 PM

Speaking of projecting...its none other but you. Buta na hihirit pa. Sabi ng source mo marcos won pero dun sa reference na ipinapakita mismo sa same article pagbinasa mo ang sabi si cory ang nanalo sa namfrel.

E ano ? Huwag mong kalimutan na ikaw ang naglabas at nag post ng supposed namfrel count na yan ... Wag mo rin kalimutan na dun sa ipinost mo sinulat din na may disclosure about jocon being trade secretary of Cory and yet you posted it to support your argument.

Unfortunately you didn't do your due dilligence ayun ang nangyare ...nadale

The OFFICIAL vote count by the NAMFREL(after Marcos left Malacañang and went directly to Paoay, Ilocos Norte. Yes, NOT Hawaii) which was headed by Jose Concepcion, Jr. (rewarded later by Mrs. Aquino to become her Trade Secretary) are as follows:
Ferdinand E. Marcos: 10, 635, 458 votes
Corazon C. Aquino: 9, 853, 456 votes

 

Pag wala nang maisagot sayo yan, uutusan ka na nyan mag-research. HAHAHA!  :lol:



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 09:39 PM

Another nonsensical post which still does not discredit the article that I posted. :lol:  

 

Pati nga sarili nyang comment kina copy-paste na nya eh. RAWR!  :lol:



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 09:41 PM

There is a reason for the laughing smiley.  :wacko:

 

I-research mo na din kung bakit may "Hahaha!" na ako, may smiley pa!  :lol:

 

Madaming namang search engine dyan!  B)



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 09:43 PM

Don't tell me your into nonsensical posts too?  :lol:

 

Nauna ka with all your, "Bakit hindi mo i-research" replies.

 

Oh wait... syet... did you mean asking people to do their research is uhhhh... nonsensical?  :unsure: 

 

And it's "you're," Bud. Not "your." ;)
 


Edited by Eddy Syet, 06 November 2015 - 09:44 PM.


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Posted 06 November 2015 - 09:43 PM

Kahit di niya ako utusan nagreresearch ako...

Kaya nga nakita ko na iba yun sinasabi ng naiquote niya dun sa supposed reference ng sumulat nun ikinote niya.

Remember...siya ang nagyayabang na panalo si marcos sa namfrel.

Pero ayon sa namfrel mismo si cory ang panalo.

Di kaya na dagdag bawas scam yun source niya? Bwahahaha

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Posted 06 November 2015 - 09:56 PM

@ES

It is really easy to nullify something when you're the one in power, especially, nullifying the winners to legitimize your presidency. The nations can recognize any person they want but the fact remains that Marcos won the 1986 elections. Aquino could not legitimize her presidency by doing a recount because she was the real loser of that election.

 

I said you may correct me if I'm wrong. Since you did not correct anything from my post - that means you agree with all of them.

 

Now, the only thing you're pointing out is it's easy for Cory Aquino to nullify the results of the 1986 Elections because she was already in power then?

 

How do you think that would apply to the context that Marcos was in power when his (I say "his" because like I said in my post, it was dominated by Marcos loyalists) Batasang Pambansa declared him the winner even if the tallying of the votes was not finished due to the computer analysts walkout? 

 

Papayag ka ba na yung logic na ia-apply natin kay Cory ay gagamitin din natin kay Marcos? Para fair di ba?  :lol:

 

And stop downplaying that the leaders of other nations supported the Aquino presidency. If Marcos was really great for the country, why the hell would other leaders support Cory's presidency? Ano yun? Tanga lang sila kasi hindi nila nakita yung nakikita mo?  ^_^ 

 

Ano mas paniniwalaan namin? Yung ipinipilit mong magaling si Marcos? Or yung suportang ibinigay ng mga lider ng ibang bansa kay Cory Aquino na nagpapakita ng suporta nila sa PAGBABAGO sa Pilipinas?


Edited by Eddy Syet, 06 November 2015 - 09:59 PM.


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Posted 06 November 2015 - 10:10 PM

I explained that Aquino was the leader of a revolutionary government. The only way to legitimize her presidency was by nullifying the results of the elections which Marcos glaringly won. If she were really the legitimate winner in the elections, she would have ordered a recount. She didn't because she lost. 

 

You can name all the leaders of all nations who supported Aquino but it does not change the fact that Marcos won the 1986 elections. 

 

It seems like you missed the part in my post that the 1986 Elections tally was NEVER finished. Marcos "won" because he was declared as winner by "his" Batasang Pambansa. Now is that incorrect? 

 

So yung sinasabi mong nanalo si Marcos? Yun eh ayun sa mga taong kontrolado nya. Mali ba ako dito? 

 

Bakit walang recount? Natural, umalis na si Marcos eh. Tumakas na. Kung ako si Cory - ang magiging unang utos ko ba eh ipabilang ulit ang mga boto eh malinaw na naman na ako na ang Pangulo? At alam kong hawak ko ang suporta ng BUONG MUNDO? Hindi ba kabobohan yung magpa-recount ka sa panahon na marami kang dapat isaayos dahil sa mga kaguluhan at mga pangungurakot sa loob ng 20 taon ng sinundan mo?

 

Recount? Eh di malamang isa sa mga isisigaw mo ngayon na kabobohan ni Cory yan nung panahon nya kung ginawa nya yan.  :lol:



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 10:26 PM

No, Marcos won because he won in the Comelec count which is the official count. He was rightfully declared the president. Regarding your saying that it was "his" BP, that is your opinion. 

 

You're wrong. Hindi pa tapos ang bilangan nung dineklarang panalo si Marcos ng Batasang Pambansa.

 

I can post a line-up of the members of the BP nung dineklara nilang panalo si Marcos. (all you have to do is ask ;) )  Ito ay para ipakita na ang BP ay dino-domina ng mga miyembro ng political party ni Marcos.

 

Pwede mong sabihing opinyon ko lang na may impluwensiya si Marcos sa desisyon nila. But really... anyone can read between the lines. :)


Marcos was the rightful winner of the 1986 elections. That is an indisputable fact. Namfrel or Comelec, they have the same winner. 

 

You're wrong again. Joe Concepcion himself declared that Aquino won sa bilang ng NAMFREL.

 

Who is Joe Concepcion? Ahhh... hindi mo naman siguro itatanong ito. :)



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 10:30 PM

Excuses, excuses. If Aquino won the 1986 elections, she would legitimize her presidency by ordering a recount. However, she could not do that since she legitimately lost the 1986 elections. 

 

She CAN do that. Any president (or public official) can. 

 

She won't however for obvious reasons.

 

Besides, ano man ang sabihin mo about sa pagsuporta ng mga lider ng ibang bansa kay Cory Aquino, sa ayaw mo man o sa gusto mo eh... LEGAL YUN. :lol:


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Posted 06 November 2015 - 10:31 PM

Yada, yada, yada :lol:

 

^ Ito po ba yung example ng sinasabi mong nonsensical post? ;)



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 10:33 PM

You focus too much on personalities. Try focusing on the facts. Masyado kang nasisilaw sa mga sumusuporta kay Cory.  :lol:

 

And that obvious reason is she lost legitimately to Marcos. 

 

I am trying to focus on facts.

 

So let's talk about facts - when Cory legitimized her government through the support of other nations, is that legal? 



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 10:35 PM

Yan ang reply ko sa mga nonsensical post tulad ng post mo. 

 

Are you saying na mas may sense ang "Yada, yada, yada." kesa sa comment ko which you quoted?

 

When I said, (And Ï quote) "Recount? Eh di malamang isa sa mga isisigaw mo ngayon na kabobohan ni Cory yan nung panahon nya kung ginawa nya yan."

Fact: Hindi ba mas may sense naman yung sinabi ko kesa sa yada, yada, yada mo? :)
 



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 10:39 PM

Now balik tayo sa paborito mong facts.

 

Nung dineklara ng Batasang Pambansa si Marcos as winner ng 1986 Snap Elections - para sayo panalo si Marcos. Tama? Sabi ng BP eh!

 

Pero nung ni-nullify ng the same Batasang Pambansa na null and void ang resulta ng 1986 Snap Elections at si Cory Aquino ang totoong nanalo - para sayo si Marcos pa din ang panalo?  :lol:

 

Kumbaga sa basketball eh, pag lamang kayo patas ang referee sa mata mo pero pag natalo - luto? May tawag sa ganyan eh.  :lol:







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