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Mam Sitti, I'm confused... which great guy are you talking about? I've back read and your recent post indicates a new guy that you just met. Is this the guy your talking about? Or is this the old guy that is great. If its the old guy is great then kawawa naman yung new guy. Hmmm....

May binanggit lang na ibang lalaki parang salawahan na ang pinalalabas mo. Hindi pwede na may old at new? Kailangan sabay?

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In my case I go to the spa because I probably feel lonely, I am single right now, well single and horny, heheh..

I read your story maam sitti, well you just fell for the wrong guy.. question is how did you fall for him? I mean of course I sure you are initially closed off to him, how did he get your trust? If you dont mind me asking?

Just be true. Just be you. No pretentions. No pakulo. Kasi how can you trust someone na simula palang nag li-lie na sayo diba? And he. He never lie. As in. Even if masasaktan ako sinasabi nia sakin harapan. Naging sobrang totoo nia sakin. I dont consider him as 'the wrong guy' kasi di naman sia wrong... :) tsaka madami naman ako natutunan sa kanya. Sabi ko nga diba wala naman ako pagsisisihan sa mga ginawa ko for him. Hindi lang talaga kami uubra. And tanggap ko na yun. No hard feelings. No bitterness. afterall I just want him to be happy ;)

and maybe im not his happiness ;)

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Mam Sitti, I'm confused... which great guy are you talking about? I've back read and your recent post indicates a new guy that you just met. Is this the guy your talking about? Or is this the old guy that is great. If its the old guy is great then kawawa naman yung new guy. Hmmm....

May binanggit lang na ibang lalaki parang salawahan na ang pinalalabas mo. Hindi pwede na may old at new? Kailangan sabay?

I am trully sorry for this post I made about Mam Sitti and I apologize for any offense or hurt I my have caused. I know Mam Sitti is the kindest and most fun poster sa forums. She's real and never was salawahan. I'm so sorry....

 

I still regret this one because this changed everything...

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I really think a thera and a client relationship is indeed possible. Like I said, I was really smitten with this girl. And I would like to know her better, waiting has not really been my strong suit since I was a kid, my motto in life has always been take what you want. But I guess if I can wait for the right time with this girl, maybe my feelings for her is true. I just hope ganun dn cya.. well the crazy things we do for L---.

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I will try to answer for him:

 

1. Why try to get with a therapist? ---Because like any other REGULAR GIRL, they're human too. Just because their line of work is like that, doesn't mean that they're not entitled to be liked by someone.

 

2. You generalize these girls way too much. These REGULAR GIRLS you are talking about can do the same things you said these THERAPISTS "would" do. It's just that things being offered to the REGULAR GIRLS isn't directly presented as money. If a guy decides to pursue a THERAPIST over the REGULAR GIRL, he must be aware that these ladies have seen different types of men in their work. It will take more than looking at the surface just to see whether they're being REAL with you or NOT. After all, it's your choice.

 

3. Maybe if a guy can try to create an environment where this girl would feel that she's not doing her job when she's with him, there may be chances that she'll reveal her true self to him.

 

4. “As such, there is no one-size-fits-all approach that anyone can offer you. The hot water that softens a carrot will harden an egg.”

 

#goodvibeslang

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Nope not all naman. Hindi lahat ng client or lahat ng pumupunta sa spa eh babaero o di mapagkakatiwalaan.. some of them are just lonely. Looking for an escape sa "mundo" nila..

Yes... as in my case... I'm just lonely and looking for an escape... Sa mundong hinuhusgahan ka at sa kung ano pa man, na minsan pinagduduhan mo ang pagkatao mo at sa kung sino ka talaga... (sorry sa hugot, just wanted to express myself really..)

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I will try to answer for him:

 

1. Why try to get with a therapist? ---Because like any other REGULAR GIRL, they're human too. Just because their line of work is like that, doesn't mean that they're not entitled to be liked by someone.

 

2. You generalize these girls way too much. These REGULAR GIRLS you are talking about can do the same things you said these THERAPISTS "would" do. It's just that things being offered to the REGULAR GIRLS isn't directly presented as money. If a guy decides to pursue a THERAPIST over the REGULAR GIRL, he must be aware that these ladies have seen different types of men in their work. It will take more than looking at the surface just to see whether they're being REAL with you or NOT. After all, it's your choice.

 

3. Maybe if a guy can try to create an environment where this girl would feel that she's not doing her job when she's with him, there may be chances that she'll reveal her true self to him.

 

4. “As such, there is no one-size-fits-all approach that anyone can offer you. The hot water that softens a carrot will harden an egg.”

 

#goodvibeslang

 

 

 

Number 1. I'm not saying they don't deserve love. I'm saying that because of that job, they are already stigmatized and have become social pariahs. That's the reality they have to deal with. Anybody can go ahead and say that it's stereotyping all of that, but that's how society views people in this line of work isn't it? Remember, we live in a country that is culturally, molded to live our lives by the Catholic Church and its values. And according to the Church, what these girls do is against those rules and is considered sinful. I am totally 99% sure and i've only confirmed this with some therapists that i know exclusively, that they keep their jobs to their loved ones, parents, kids and others a secret. They know that once their families find out they will be forever looked upon differently and that won't change. Will the guest, go to all the trouble of letting his family and her family that he met their daughter at this joint and tell them honestly that she pleasures numerous men everyday? Is the guy willing to go through all that stigma, become a social pariah himself? I'm just simplifying it, between going through all that trouble, emotionally, physically, mentally. I'd rather be with a person not in this type of situation and make it easier for myself than go to all that trouble. In short, I'm just stating what the guy will have to go through in order to make it work as opposed to the other option.

 

 

Number 2. I am merely stating the social views of people towards the women who work these types of jobs. And you made a generalized statement that regular girls will do the same things that therapists would do. I don't think so. I don't see regular girls pleasuring men every hour or every 2 hours of everyday. Not to mention different kinds of men as you pointed out. Unless the regular girl you speak of has some form of medical condition of being addicted to it, i just don't see these regular girls doing the same thing the therapists would be doing on a daily basis. These regular girls I believe have other things on their daily activities than what these therapists do.

 

Number 3.This doesn't make sense. What was the purpose of going there in the first place if you paid for a massage but not really going there to get a massage? Because you want to "create an environment where this girl would feel that she's not doing her job? How is she supposed to do that with her being naked while massaging you and stroking you? I would totally comprehend this if you were eating out or she is not at her job and you guys talking but if you were with her while she is at work then its impossible to "create" that environment you're talking about. If you went there to try to do that then she has you hook line and sinker already. You have wasted your money by making the spa richer and she has already got the tip in the bag at the end of that 1 hour environment you want to make by letting her "reveal her true self"

 

 

My points are just to weigh the situation and compare them fully. To me, i don't want to go through all that trouble, looking at it from all angles. It is taxing on the mind, the body and soul. Like i mentioned you will have to deal with the moral, religious, and social repercussions of being in a relationship with a therapist.

 

Of course it falls on the decision of the men if they want to pursue these women. Let's say they want to do this and they are willing to go through all the consequences of their actions. But that's half the battle. What about the girl? Is she willing to go through these tribulations of being stigmatized by society and all those other baggages that come with it? The guy will literally be swallowing not only their pride but their dignity as well by getting into this relationship because whatever the thera is going to encounter the guy will also encounter, with his own family and not only hers.

 

Take what the previous poster has said. He makes a compelling argument.

 

If it were up to me, personally i'd rather see these women not working in this type of industry and this industry shouldn't exist at all in order to have none of these arguments because i would like for these women to be working regular jobs instead of this.

 

I am good friends with them but i would never get in a relationship with them. To me, its simply not worth the migraine it will bring.

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The funny thing about love is you never know who was meant for you. I remember reading this thread here about the sexual history of your partner, is it important. Well mind you some actors or models were escort service, and well probably of you dated them you would marry them right away if you were given the chance. Or this girls they did get married and they did have a happy life.

I guess, the whole concept of love is indeed a mystery, you may say you will never fall for a girl who is taller than you but you end up marrying a girl who is. It is indeed a predicament when you fall for a therapist, (if it were not this would be a none issue and there would be no thread like this). If you have felt REAL LOVE, I guess it a guy falling for a therapist is not that impossible.

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Number 1. I'm not saying they don't deserve love. I'm saying that because of that job, they are already stigmatized and have become social pariahs. That's the reality they have to deal with. Anybody can go ahead and say that it's stereotyping all of that, but that's how society views people in this line of work isn't it? Remember, we live in a country that is culturally, molded to live our lives by the Catholic Church and its values. And according to the Church, what these girls do is against those rules and is considered sinful. I am totally 99% sure and i've only confirmed this with some therapists that i know exclusively, that they keep their jobs to their loved ones, parents, kids and others a secret. They know that once their families find out they will be forever looked upon differently and that won't change. Will the guest, go to all the trouble of letting his family and her family that he met their daughter at this joint and tell them honestly that she pleasures numerous men everyday? Is the guy willing to go through all that stigma, become a social pariah himself? I'm just simplifying it, between going through all that trouble, emotionally, physically, mentally. I'd rather be with a person not in this type of situation and make it easier for myself than go to all that trouble. In short, I'm just stating what the guy will have to go through in order to make it work as opposed to the other option.

 

>>> Oo tama ka na that's how MOST PEOPLE OF THE SOCIETY views people in this line of work. At doon nga kasi may pagkakamali ang karamihan. Masyadong nadala sa STEREOTYPING dahil HINDI NA KELANGAN MAG-ISIP, HINDI NA KELANGAN INTINIDIHIN pa ang mga babae na nasa ganitong sitwasyon. Doon nag-AGREE ang karamihan sa mga tao, kaya doon na lang din ako kasi mas madali iyon. Mas konti pa ang kokontra sa akin. BAWAS SAKIT SA ULO.

 

>>> Oo nga we live in a country that is culturally molded to live our lives by the Catholic Church and its values. And according to the Church, what these girls do is against those rules and is considered sinful. BUT THAT DIDN'T PREVENT SOME PEOPLE TO ACCEPT THESE GIRLS. SABI NGA NUNG ISANG GUY SA KABILANG THREAD, SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS.

 

>>> Kung hindi ako nagkakamali ng pag-intindi, you are only 99% sure. And that 99% only belongs to those SOME THERAPISTS that you exclusively know. So how about those therapists that I exclusively know? I am also totally 99% sure na they are UPFRONT ON THE JOB THAT THEY ARE DOING TO THEIR LOVED ONES. WHY? BECAUSE SILA NA NGA LANG ANG PEDE MONG PAGKATIWALAAN SA MUNDONG ITO DAHIL SILA ANG MAS NAKAKAINTINDI SAYO AT MAY CONCERN SAYO, TAPOS MAGSISINUNGALING KA PA SA KANILA? AGAIN, SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS. AND SOME OF THESE WOULD CHOOSE TO TELL THE TRUTH TO THEIR LOVED ONES, AND CHOOSE TO KEEP IT TO THOSE NA HINDI IMPORTANTE SA KANILA. TO TELL NA "THEY WILL BE FOREVER LOOKED UPON DIFFERENTLY & THAT WON'T CHANGE" IS TOO GENERAL. BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT UPON THEM DIFFERENTLY, BUT IN AN ACCEPTING WAY.

 

>>> Yes, some guests will willingly go the trouble of letting their families, etc. etc. If I see that the GOOD IN THESE GIRLS is WORTH TAKING the BAD IN THEM, then why would I not tell my family etc. etc. about her and her work? But syempre, may cases na ayaw din nga ng girl ipaalam, so ang kelangan nyo dito is MUTUAL AGREEMENT - most likely kung alin ang makakabuti. And yung MAKAKABUTI na iyon eh hindi pdeng i-GENERALIZE. Hindi porke ganito ganyan ang trabaho, wala nang tatanggap sa kanila. I do understand that you are just concerned (THANK YOU FOR THAT) with some of these guys not to get into complex situations such as this. But there are certain, few number of men, who would willingly accept all the burden that will come along in this complicated situation - thus ACCEPTING THE STIGMA. I leave the reasons to them na lang.

 

Number 2. I am merely stating the social views of people towards the women who work these types of jobs. And you made a generalized statement that regular girls will do the same things that therapists would do. I don't think so. I don't see regular girls pleasuring men every hour or every 2 hours of everyday. Not to mention different kinds of men as you pointed out. Unless the regular girl you speak of has some form of medical condition of being addicted to it, i just don't see these regular girls doing the same thing the therapists would be doing on a daily basis. These regular girls I believe have other things on their daily activities than what these therapists do.

 

>>> And tama ka, the REGULAR GIRL I was speaking of is the kind of girl who f#&ks a guy because she likes to f#&k (without money as an exchange - but a BOOST IN THEIR EGOS). I'm sorry kung hindi ko na-elaborate nang husto.

 

Number 3.This doesn't make sense. What was the purpose of going there in the first place if you paid for a massage but not really going there to get a massage? Because you want to "create an environment where this girl would feel that she's not doing her job? How is she supposed to do that with her being naked while massaging you and stroking you? I would totally comprehend this if you were eating out or she is not at her job and you guys talking but if you were with her while she is at work then its impossible to "create" that environment you're talking about. If you went there to try to do that then she has you hook line and sinker already. You have wasted your money by making the spa richer and she has already got the tip in the bag at the end of that 1 hour environment you want to make by letting her "reveal her true self"

 

>>> Well their are cases na some of these girls would not allow you to see them outside their workplace. For what reasons?

1. They don't know that guy yet.

2. I have this rule not to see guests outside of work.

3. I don't like him.

4. etc. etc.

 

And take note, there certain guys who pay just to SIMPLY SPEND TIME with these girls. Ibig sabihin noon, para lang makasama, makausap, at makilala pa nila yung babae. Some men willingly pay just to do that. Eh ano nga naman ba ang magagawa nila kung walang tiwala sa kanila yung babae. In the first, tama nga naman yung mga girls, nagpunta sila sa ganitong lugar, syempre expected nila na these guys are not looking for anything serios. And para naman dun sa mga guys, if you know that your intentions are real and sincere, then ikaw na ang mag-adjust para doon sa babae. It will take a lot of PATIENCE, CONSISTENCY and PERSEVERANCE on your part though kung gusto mong mabago ang tingin nila sayo. But still, you are lucky if you come across a girl who is MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS.

 

To Mr. Number 1. I'm not saying they don't deserve love. I'm saying that because of that job, they are already stigmatized and have become social pariahs. That's the reality they have to deal with. Anybody can go ahead and say that it's stereotyping all of that, but that's how society views people in this line of work isn't it? Remember, we live in a country that is culturally, molded to live our lives by the Catholic Church and its values. And according to the Church, what these girls do is against those rules and is considered sinful. I am totally 99% sure and i've only confirmed this with some therapists that i know exclusively, that they keep their jobs to their loved ones, parents, kids and others a secret. They know that once their families find out they will be forever looked upon differently and that won't change. Will the guest, go to all the trouble of letting his family and her family that he met their daughter at this joint and tell them honestly that she pleasures numerous men everyday? Is the guy willing to go through all that stigma, become a social pariah himself? I'm just simplifying it, between going through all that trouble, emotionally, physically, mentally. I'd rather be with a person not in this type of situation and make it easier for myself than go to all that trouble. In short, I'm just stating what the guy will have to go through in order to make it work as opposed to the other option.

 

>>> Oo tama ka na that's how MOST PEOPLE OF THE SOCIETY views people in this line of work. At doon nga kasi may pagkakamali ang karamihan. Masyadong nadala sa STEREOTYPING dahil HINDI NA KELANGAN MAG-ISIP, HINDI NA KELANGAN INTINIDIHIN pa ang mga babae na nasa ganitong sitwasyon. Doon nag-AGREE ang karamihan sa mga tao, kaya doon na lang din ako kasi mas madali iyon. Mas konti pa ang kokontra sa akin. BAWAS SAKIT SA ULO.

 

>>> Oo nga we live in a country that is culturally molded to live our lives by the Catholic Church and its values. And according to the Church, what these girls do is against those rules and is considered sinful. BUT THAT DIDN'T PREVENT SOME PEOPLE TO ACCEPT THESE GIRLS. SABI NGA NUNG ISANG GUY SA KABILANG THREAD, SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS.

 

>>> Kung hindi ako nagkakamali ng pag-intindi, you are only 99% sure. And that 99% only belongs to those SOME THERAPISTS that you exclusively know. So how about those therapists that I exclusively know? I am also totally 99% sure na they are UPFRONT ON THE JOB THAT THEY ARE DOING TO THEIR LOVED ONES. WHY? BECAUSE SILA NA NGA LANG ANG PEDE MONG PAGKATIWALAAN SA MUNDONG ITO DAHIL SILA ANG MAS NAKAKAINTINDI SAYO AT MAY CONCERN SAYO, TAPOS MAGSISINUNGALING KA PA SA KANILA? AGAIN, SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS. AND SOME OF THESE WOULD CHOOSE TO TELL THE TRUTH TO THEIR LOVED ONES, AND CHOOSE TO KEEP IT TO THOSE NA HINDI IMPORTANTE SA KANILA. TO TELL NA "THEY WILL BE FOREVER LOOKED UPON DIFFERENTLY & THAT WON'T CHANGE" IS TOO GENERAL. BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT UPON THEM DIFFERENTLY, BUT IN AN ACCEPTING WAY.

 

>>> Yes, some guests will willingly go the trouble of letting their families, etc. etc. If I see that the GOOD IN THESE GIRLS is WORTH TAKING the BAD IN THEM, then why would I not tell my family etc. etc. about her and her work? But syempre, may cases na ayaw din nga ng girl ipaalam, so ang kelangan nyo dito is MUTUAL AGREEMENT - most likely kung alin ang makakabuti. And yung MAKAKABUTI na iyon eh hindi pdeng i-GENERALIZE. Hindi porke ganito ganyan ang trabaho, wala nang tatanggap sa kanila. I do understand that you are just concerned (THANK YOU FOR THAT) with some of these guys not to get into complex situations such as this. But there are certain, few number of men, who would willingly accept all the burden that will come along in this complicated situation - thus ACCEPTING THE STIGMA. I leave the reasons to them na lang.

 

Number 2. I am merely stating the social views of people towards the women who work these types of jobs. And you made a generalized statement that regular girls will do the same things that therapists would do. I don't think so. I don't see regular girls pleasuring men every hour or every 2 hours of everyday. Not to mention different kinds of men as you pointed out. Unless the regular girl you speak of has some form of medical condition of being addicted to it, i just don't see these regular girls doing the same thing the therapists would be doing on a daily basis. These regular girls I believe have other things on their daily activities than what these therapists do.

 

>>> And tama ka, the REGULAR GIRL I was speaking of is the kind of girl who f#&ks a guy because she likes to f#&k (without money as an exchange - but a BOOST IN THEIR EGOS). I'm sorry kung hindi ko na-elaborate nang husto.

 

Number 3.This doesn't make sense. What was the purpose of going there in the first place if you paid for a massage but not really going there to get a massage? Because you want to "create an environment where this girl would feel that she's not doing her job? How is she supposed to do that with her being naked while massaging you and stroking you? I would totally comprehend this if you were eating out or she is not at her job and you guys talking but if you were with her while she is at work then its impossible to "create" that environment you're talking about. If you went there to try to do that then she has you hook line and sinker already. You have wasted your money by making the spa richer and she has already got the tip in the bag at the end of that 1 hour environment you want to make by letting her "reveal her true self"

 

>>> Well their are cases na some of these girls would not allow you to see them outside their workplace. For what reasons?

1. They don't know that guy yet.

2. I have this rule not to see guests outside of work.

3. I don't like him.

4. etc. etc.

 

And take note, there certain guys who pay just to SIMPLY SPEND TIME with these girls. Ibig sabihin noon, para lang makasama, makausap, at makilala pa nila yung babae. Some men willingly pay just to do that. Eh ano nga naman ba ang magagawa nila kung walang tiwala sa kanila yung babae. In the first, tama nga naman yung mga girls, nagpunta sila sa ganitong lugar, syempre expected nila na these guys are not looking for anything serios. And para naman dun sa mga guys, if you know that your intentions are real and sincere, then ikaw na ang mag-adjust para doon sa babae. It will take a lot of PATIENCE, CONSISTENCY and PERSEVERANCE on your part though kung gusto mong mabago ang tingin nila sayo. But still, you are lucky if you come across a girl who is MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS.

 

To Mr. Number 1. I'm not saying they don't deserve love. I'm saying that because of that job, they are already stigmatized and have become social pariahs. That's the reality they have to deal with. Anybody can go ahead and say that it's stereotyping all of that, but that's how society views people in this line of work isn't it? Remember, we live in a country that is culturally, molded to live our lives by the Catholic Church and its values. And according to the Church, what these girls do is against those rules and is considered sinful. I am totally 99% sure and i've only confirmed this with some therapists that i know exclusively, that they keep their jobs to their loved ones, parents, kids and others a secret. They know that once their families find out they will be forever looked upon differently and that won't change. Will the guest, go to all the trouble of letting his family and her family that he met their daughter at this joint and tell them honestly that she pleasures numerous men everyday? Is the guy willing to go through all that stigma, become a social pariah himself? I'm just simplifying it, between going through all that trouble, emotionally, physically, mentally. I'd rather be with a person not in this type of situation and make it easier for myself than go to all that trouble. In short, I'm just stating what the guy will have to go through in order to make it work as opposed to the other option.

 

>>> Oo tama ka na that's how MOST PEOPLE OF THE SOCIETY views people in this line of work. At doon nga kasi may pagkakamali ang karamihan. Masyadong nadala sa STEREOTYPING dahil HINDI NA KELANGAN MAG-ISIP, HINDI NA KELANGAN INTINIDIHIN pa ang mga babae na nasa ganitong sitwasyon. Doon nag-AGREE ang karamihan sa mga tao, kaya doon na lang din ako kasi mas madali iyon. Mas konti pa ang kokontra sa akin. BAWAS SAKIT SA ULO.

 

>>> Oo nga we live in a country that is culturally molded to live our lives by the Catholic Church and its values. And according to the Church, what these girls do is against those rules and is considered sinful. BUT THAT DIDN'T PREVENT SOME PEOPLE TO ACCEPT THESE GIRLS. SABI NGA NUNG ISANG GUY SA KABILANG THREAD, SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS.

 

>>> Kung hindi ako nagkakamali ng pag-intindi, you are only 99% sure. And that 99% only belongs to those SOME THERAPISTS that you exclusively know. So how about those therapists that I exclusively know? I am also totally 99% sure na they are UPFRONT ON THE JOB THAT THEY ARE DOING TO THEIR LOVED ONES. WHY? BECAUSE SILA NA NGA LANG ANG PEDE MONG PAGKATIWALAAN SA MUNDONG ITO DAHIL SILA ANG MAS NAKAKAINTINDI SAYO AT MAY CONCERN SAYO, TAPOS MAGSISINUNGALING KA PA SA KANILA? AGAIN, SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS. AND SOME OF THESE WOULD CHOOSE TO TELL THE TRUTH TO THEIR LOVED ONES, AND CHOOSE TO KEEP IT TO THOSE NA HINDI IMPORTANTE SA KANILA. TO TELL NA "THEY WILL BE FOREVER LOOKED UPON DIFFERENTLY & THAT WON'T CHANGE" IS TOO GENERAL. BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT UPON THEM DIFFERENTLY, BUT IN AN ACCEPTING WAY.

 

>>> Yes, some guests will willingly go the trouble of letting their families, etc. etc. If I see that the GOOD IN THESE GIRLS is WORTH TAKING the BAD IN THEM, then why would I not tell my family etc. etc. about her and her work? But syempre, may cases na ayaw din nga ng girl ipaalam, so ang kelangan nyo dito is MUTUAL AGREEMENT - most likely kung alin ang makakabuti. And yung MAKAKABUTI na iyon eh hindi pdeng i-GENERALIZE. Hindi porke ganito ganyan ang trabaho, wala nang tatanggap sa kanila. I do understand that you are just concerned (THANK YOU FOR THAT) with some of these guys not to get into complex situations such as this. But there are certain, few number of men, who would willingly accept all the burden that will come along in this complicated situation - thus ACCEPTING THE STIGMA. I leave the reasons to them na lang.

 

Number 2. I am merely stating the social views of people towards the women who work these types of jobs. And you made a generalized statement that regular girls will do the same things that therapists would do. I don't think so. I don't see regular girls pleasuring men every hour or every 2 hours of everyday. Not to mention different kinds of men as you pointed out. Unless the regular girl you speak of has some form of medical condition of being addicted to it, i just don't see these regular girls doing the same thing the therapists would be doing on a daily basis. These regular girls I believe have other things on their daily activities than what these therapists do.

 

>>> And tama ka, the REGULAR GIRL I was speaking of is the kind of girl who f#&ks a guy because she likes to f#&k (without money as an exchange - but a BOOST IN THEIR EGOS). I'm sorry kung hindi ko na-elaborate nang husto.

 

Number 3.This doesn't make sense. What was the purpose of going there in the first place if you paid for a massage but not really going there to get a massage? Because you want to "create an environment where this girl would feel that she's not doing her job? How is she supposed to do that with her being naked while massaging you and stroking you? I would totally comprehend this if you were eating out or she is not at her job and you guys talking but if you were with her while she is at work then its impossible to "create" that environment you're talking about. If you went there to try to do that then she has you hook line and sinker already. You have wasted your money by making the spa richer and she has already got the tip in the bag at the end of that 1 hour environment you want to make by letting her "reveal her true self"

 

>>> Well their are cases na some of these girls would not allow you to see them outside their workplace. For what reasons?

1. They don't know that guy yet.

2. I have this rule not to see guests outside of work.

3. I don't like him.

4. etc. etc.

 

And take note, there certain guys who pay just to SIMPLY SPEND TIME with these girls. Ibig sabihin noon, para lang makasama, makausap, at makilala pa nila yung babae. Some men willingly pay just to do that. Eh ano nga naman ba ang magagawa nila kung walang tiwala sa kanila yung babae. In the first, tama nga naman yung mga girls, nagpunta sila sa ganitong lugar, syempre expected nila na these guys are not looking for anything serios. And para naman dun sa mga guys, if you know that your intentions are real and sincere, then ikaw na ang mag-adjust para doon sa babae. It will take a lot of PATIENCE, CONSISTENCY and PERSEVERANCE on your part though kung gusto mong mabago ang tingin nila sayo. But still, you are lucky if you come across a girl who is MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS.

 

Yeah it's great not to see these women working in this kind of environment or this environment shouldn't exist at all. But gaya ng isang CORRUPT GOVERNMENT, hindi madaling burahin ang ganitong INDUSTRY. It's the oldest profession the world has and considering our that our country is still in a THIRD WORLD status - a substantial amount of people don't live good lives.

 

To Mr. Louis Roederer, I understand your concerns. Ako rin naman, alam ko na hindi madali ang pumasok sa ganitong sitwasyon. But gaya nga ng sinabi, may iba lang kasi talaga na mas WILLING sumabak sa ganitong mga bagay. If ang payo mo sa mga guys is wag ng simulan kasi mahirap nga talaga, siguro ang maipapayo ko na lang sa mga guys na nakapag-simula na (at walang pang balak sumuko at the moment), just think if this situation is slowling destroying you as a person. Kung nagloloko ka na sa buhay dahil hindi mo na alam ang gagawin eh tingin ko nga dapat ka nang tumigil. But if you can still go through life's challenges while simultaneously taking this kind of situation into account, then good luck.

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Number 1. I'm not saying they don't deserve love. I'm saying that because of that job, they are already stigmatized and have become social pariahs. That's the reality they have to deal with. Anybody can go ahead and say that it's stereotyping all of that, but that's how society views people in this line of work isn't it? Remember, we live in a country that is culturally, molded to live our lives by the Catholic Church and its values. And according to the Church, what these girls do is against those rules and is considered sinful. I am totally 99% sure and i've only confirmed this with some therapists that i know exclusively, that they keep their jobs to their loved ones, parents, kids and others a secret. They know that once their families find out they will be forever looked upon differently and that won't change. Will the guest, go to all the trouble of letting his family and her family that he met their daughter at this joint and tell them honestly that she pleasures numerous men everyday? Is the guy willing to go through all that stigma, become a social pariah himself? I'm just simplifying it, between going through all that trouble, emotionally, physically, mentally. I'd rather be with a person not in this type of situation and make it easier for myself than go to all that trouble. In short, I'm just stating what the guy will have to go through in order to make it work as opposed to the other option.

 

>>> Oo tama ka na that's how MOST PEOPLE OF THE SOCIETY view people in this line of work. At doon nga kasi may pagkakamali ang karamihan. Masyadong nadala sa STEREOTYPING dahil HINDI NA KELANGAN MAG-ISIP, HINDI NA KELANGAN INTINIDIHIN pa ang mga babae na nasa ganitong sitwasyon. Doon nag-AGREE ang karamihan sa mga tao, kaya doon na lang din ako kasi mas madali iyon. Mas konti pa ang kokontra sa akin. BAWAS SAKIT SA ULO.

 

>>> Oo nga we live in a country that is culturally molded to live our lives by the Catholic Church and its values. And according to the Church, what these girls do is against those rules and is considered sinful. BUT THAT DIDN'T PREVENT SOME PEOPLE TO ACCEPT THESE GIRLS. SABI NGA NUNG ISANG GUY SA KABILANG THREAD, SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS.

 

>>> Kung hindi ako nagkakamali ng pag-intindi, you are only 99% sure. And that 99% only belongs to those SOME THERAPISTS that you exclusively know. So how about those therapists that I exclusively know? I am also totally 99% sure na they are UPFRONT ON THE JOB THAT THEY ARE DOING TO THEIR LOVED ONES. WHY? BECAUSE SILA NA NGA LANG ANG PEDE MONG PAGKATIWALAAN SA MUNDONG ITO DAHIL SILA ANG MAS NAKAKAINTINDI SAYO AT MAY CONCERN SAYO, TAPOS MAGSISINUNGALING KA PA SA KANILA? AGAIN, SOME PEOPLE ARE MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS. AND SOME OF THESE WOULD CHOOSE TO TELL THE TRUTH TO THEIR LOVED ONES, AND CHOOSE TO KEEP IT TO THOSE NA HINDI IMPORTANTE SA KANILA. TO TELL NA "THEY WILL BE FOREVER LOOKED UPON DIFFERENTLY & THAT WON'T CHANGE" IS TOO GENERAL. BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT UPON THEM DIFFERENTLY, BUT IN AN ACCEPTING WAY.

 

>>> Yes, some guests will willingly go the trouble of letting their families, etc. etc. If I see that the GOOD IN THESE GIRLS is WORTH TAKING the BAD IN THEM, then why would I not tell my family etc. etc. about her and her work? But syempre, may cases na ayaw din nga ng girl ipaalam, so ang kelangan nyo dito is MUTUAL AGREEMENT - most likely kung alin ang makakabuti. And yung MAKAKABUTI na iyon eh hindi pdeng i-GENERALIZE. Hindi porke ganito ganyan ang trabaho, wala nang tatanggap sa kanila. I do understand that you are just concerned (THANK YOU FOR THAT) with some of these guys not to get into complex situations such as this. But there are certain, few number of men, who would willingly accept all the burden that will come along in this complicated situation - thus ACCEPTING THE STIGMA. I leave the reasons to them na lang.

 

Number 2. I am merely stating the social views of people towards the women who work these types of jobs. And you made a generalized statement that regular girls will do the same things that therapists would do. I don't think so. I don't see regular girls pleasuring men every hour or every 2 hours of everyday. Not to mention different kinds of men as you pointed out. Unless the regular girl you speak of has some form of medical condition of being addicted to it, i just don't see these regular girls doing the same thing the therapists would be doing on a daily basis. These regular girls I believe have other things on their daily activities than what these therapists do.

 

>>> And tama ka, the REGULAR GIRL I was speaking of is the kind of girl who f#&ks a guy because she likes to f#&k (without money as an exchange - but a BOOST IN THEIR EGOS). I'm sorry kung hindi ko na-elaborate nang husto.

 

Number 3.This doesn't make sense. What was the purpose of going there in the first place if you paid for a massage but not really going there to get a massage? Because you want to "create an environment where this girl would feel that she's not doing her job? How is she supposed to do that with her being naked while massaging you and stroking you? I would totally comprehend this if you were eating out or she is not at her job and you guys talking but if you were with her while she is at work then its impossible to "create" that environment you're talking about. If you went there to try to do that then she has you hook line and sinker already. You have wasted your money by making the spa richer and she has already got the tip in the bag at the end of that 1 hour environment you want to make by letting her "reveal her true self"

 

>>> Well their are cases na some of these girls would not allow you to see them outside their workplace. For what reasons?

1. They don't know that guy yet.

2. I have this rule not to see guests outside of work.

3. I don't like him.

4. etc. etc.

 

And take note, there certain guys who pay just to SIMPLY SPEND TIME with these girls. Ibig sabihin noon, para lang makasama, makausap, at makilala pa nila yung babae. Some men willingly pay just to do that. Eh ano nga naman ba ang magagawa nila kung walang tiwala sa kanila yung babae. In the first, tama nga naman yung mga girls, nagpunta sila sa ganitong lugar, syempre expected nila na these guys are not looking for anything serious. And para naman dun sa mga guys, if you know that your intentions are real and sincere, then ikaw na ang mag-adjust para doon sa babae. It will take a lot of PATIENCE, CONSISTENCY and PERSEVERANCE on your part though kung gusto mong mabago ang tingin nila sayo. But still, you are lucky if you come across a girl who is MORE ACCEPTING THAN OTHERS.

 

Yeah it's great not to see these women working in this kind of environment or this environment shouldn't exist at all. But gaya ng isang CORRUPT GOVERNMENT, hindi madaling burahin ang ganitong INDUSTRY. It's the oldest profession the world has and considering our that our country is still in a THIRD WORLD status - a substantial amount of people don't live good lives.

 

To Mr. Louis Roederer, I understand your concerns. Ako rin naman, alam ko na hindi madali ang pumasok sa ganitong sitwasyon. But gaya nga ng sinabi, may iba lang kasi talaga na mas WILLING sumabak sa ganitong mga bagay. If ang payo mo sa mga guys is wag ng simulan kasi mahirap nga talaga, siguro ang maipapayo ko na lang sa mga guys na nakapag-simula na (at walang pang balak sumuko at the moment), just think if this situation is slowly destroying you as a person. Kung nagloloko ka na sa buhay dahil hindi mo na alam ang gagawin eh tingin ko nga dapat ka nang tumigil. But if you can still go through life's challenges while simultaneously taking this kind of situation into account, then good luck.

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Kung sira ng buhay, in fairness naman sa mga thera, maraming ibang babae ang pwedeng sumira ng buhay mo.

1. Babae na may illegal na gawa (aside from prostitution). Mga addict, pusher, mga may under the table sa company.

2. Babae na spender. Ung mga tingin sa credit card e libre.

3. Babae na sadyang malandi or kung hindi naman nakikipag sex sa iba e mga babaeng tease. Ung flirt sa lahat. Nakatago sa "close lang ako talaga sa mga lalaki kasi im one of the boys"

4. Babae na may baggage sa family. Like a prostitute, pero would go the way na himdi mag prostitute. Ung mga may pinpaaral, ung meron may sakit sa family nila, ung may utang na malaki ang family nila.

5. Babae na sobrang lakas ng dating. Mga tipong ang tingin sa yo dahil hindi ka kasing galing nya e panakip butas lang. Ung ikaw ngyn until someone better comes along.

6. Mga gold digger

7. Mga social climber.

See you dont have to date a thera to come in contact with these type of girls. Personnaly, mas gusto ko nang makasama habang buhay ang thera na marunong humawak ng pera kesa sa babae na may konting pera lang e puro lustay ang ginagawa.

From my experience, dont close anything. If someone makes you happy and you think you love her, dont limit yourself to what you can see. After all love is about acceptance. I dont see anything wrong with falling for a thera as long as you love and accept her, period. Pero kung madami kang issues e wag nlng hindi dahil para syo kung hindi para sa kanila, kawawa nmn cla kung lolokohin mo lang sila.

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'' falling for a client...? naku !!! wag na!! mga babaero yan.. they are cheating nga sa mga love ones nila, well love nga ba nila..? some of them are married and in a relationship, tapos iclaclaim na mahal daw kami.. tapos after ng ilang araw ibang therapist naman yung 'mahal'.. yung totoo ilan ba puso ng mga gms na yan..? sasabihin ang ganda ganda namin, same bola sa iba ibang nagiging thera. tsk. mahal mahal. gusto lang umiskor. naku naku.. piece of meat daw kami. pero pag nasa loob naman ng cubicle, kung makasamba aysus much!! tsk tsk.., ''

 

 

... this is what some theras are thinking.. see..? sa industry hirap magtiwala. may mga theras naging 'monster' dahil din naman sa gms. but. may nababasa ba kayo sa thread na to na sinusumpa namin yung mga gms..? na ginegenaralize namin kayo..? bat parang mas malawak pa isip karamihan ng mga theras sa ilan sa mga gms. yung iba kung makapagsalita samin parang binili na buong pagkatao namin eh no..?

 

... but still.. my stand is yes. its possible... :) and if ever may dumating na worth it i surely will consider.

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'' falling for a client...? naku !!! wag na!! mga babaero yan.. they are cheating nga sa mga love ones nila, well love nga ba nila..? some of them are married and in a relationship, tapos iclaclaim na mahal daw kami.. tapos after ng ilang araw ibang therapist naman yung 'mahal'.. yung totoo ilan ba puso ng mga gms na yan..? sasabihin ang ganda ganda namin, same bola sa iba ibang nagiging thera. tsk. mahal mahal. gusto lang umiskor. naku naku.. piece of meat daw kami. pero pag nasa loob naman ng cubicle, kung makasamba aysus much!! tsk tsk.., ''

 

 

... this is what some theras are thinking.. see..? sa industry hirap magtiwala. may mga theras naging 'monster' dahil din naman sa gms. but. may nababasa ba kayo sa thread na to na sinusumpa namin yung mga gms..? na ginegenaralize namin kayo..? bat parang mas malawak pa isip karamihan ng mga theras sa ilan sa mga gms. yung iba kung makapagsalita samin parang binili na buong pagkatao namin eh no..?

 

... but still.. my stand is yes. its possible... :) and if ever may dumating na worth it i surely will consider.

 

 

ang lupit naman ng response na to.. (applause..) :D

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I saw this topic and wanted to read about the point of views of thera/mpa/gro ladies in MTC, kaso ang GM's pa rin lamang dito sa mga posts at comments. Guys konting respeto naman sa ladies, wag naman mag post dito kung balak niyo lang gawin tong thread about your own point of view. This topic was purposely created for the Thera's/MPA's ladies to share their own experiences. Sabi nga ni mod na sila ang bida dito. GM's meron din tayo similar topic falling for a thera why not post there instead, nawala na kasi sa purpose itong topic ang haba pa ng mga comments.

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I saw this topic and wanted to read about the point of views of thera/mpa/gro ladies in MTC, kaso ang GM's pa rin lamang dito sa mga posts at comments. Guys konting respeto naman sa ladies, wag naman mag post dito kung balak niyo lang gawin tong thread about your own point of view. This topic was purposely created for the Thera's/MPA's ladies to share their own experiences. Sabi nga ni mod na sila ang bida dito. GM's meron din tayo similar topic falling for a thera why not post there instead, nawala na kasi sa purpose itong topic ang haba pa ng mga comments.

Contrary to what you think, I believe some of us just wanted to defend these girls from those guys who mock them here. I don't see any disrespect on that. It's not that we want to own these thread, may mga ibang nga lang kasi dito na mapanghamak.

 

Pero if forum rules ang paguusapan, I guess tama ka. Dapat nga doon mag post sa kabila.

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