Supplements - to Take or Not to Take?

[hint-of-lime]

anong mga roids makukuha mo, PM me naman, last time i use is testo. enanthate, i didn't use any combination jus test E. only, may makukuha ka pa ba nito??? thanx

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Careful with the 'roids dudes! Those things are serious stuff with a lot of side effects!

 

Encyclopedia of Sports Medicine and Science

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ANABOLIC STEROIDS: Side Effects

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Harm Kuipers, M.D., Ph.D.

Department of Physiology

University of Limburg

P.O. Box 616

6200MD Maastricht

The Netherlands

 

Kuipers, H. (1998). Anabolic steroids: side effects. In: Encyclopedia of Sports Medicine and Science, T.D.Fahey (Editor). Internet Society for Sport Science: http://sportsci.org. 7 March 1998.

 

 

Anabolic steroids (AS) are effective in enhancing athletic performance. The trade off, however, is the occurrence of adverse side effects which can jeopardize health. Since AS have effects on several organ systems, a myriad of side effects can be found. In general, the orally administered AS have more adverse effects than parenterally administered AS. In addition, the type of AS is not only important for the advantageous effects, but also for the adverse effects. Especially the AS containing a 17-alkyl group have potentially more adverse affects, in particular to the liver. One of the problems with athletes, in particular strength athletes and bodybuilders, is the use of oral and parenteral AS at the same time ("stacking"), and in dosages which may be several (up to 40 times) the recommended therapeutical dosage. The frequency and severity of side effects is quite variable. It depends on several factors such as type of drug, dosage, duration of use and the individual sensitivity and response.

 

Liver Function

 

AS may exert a profound adverse effect on the liver. This is particularly true for orally administered AS. The parenterally administered AS seem to have less serious effects on the liver. Testosterone cypionate, testosterone enanthate and other injectable anabolic steroids seem to have little adverse effects on the liver. However, lesions of the liver have been reported after parenteral nortestosterone administration, and also occasionally after injection of testosterone esters. The influence of AS on liver function has been studied extensively. The majority of the studies involve hospitalized patients who are treated for prolonged periods for various diseases, such as anemia, renal insufficiency, impotence, and dysfunction of the pituitary gland. In clinical trials, treatment with anabolic steroids resulted in a decreased hepatic excretory function. In addition, intra hepatic cholestasis, reflected by itch and jaundice, and hepatic peliosis were observed. Hepatic peliosis is a hemorrhagic cystic degeneration of the liver, which may lead to fibrosis and portal hypertension. Rupture of a cyst may lead to fatal bleeding.

 

Benign (adenoma's) and malign tumors (hepatocellular carcinoma) have been reported. There are rather strong indications that tumors of the liver are caused when the anabolic steroids contain a 17-alpha-alkyl group. Usually, the tumors are benign adenoma's, that reverse after stopping with steroid administration. However, there are some indications that administration of anabolic steroids in athletes may lead to hepatic carcinoma. Often these abnormalities remain asymptomatic, since peliosis hepatis and liver tumors do not always result in abnormalities in the blood variables that are generally used to measure liver function.

 

AS use is often associated with an increase in plasma activity of liver enzymes such as aspartate aminotransferase (AST), alanine aminotransferase (ALT), alkaline phosphatase (AP), lactate dehydrogenase (LDH), and gamma glutamyl transpeptidase (GGT). These enzymes are present in hepatocytes in relatively high concentrations, and an increase in plasma levels of these enzymes reflect hepatocellular damage or at least increased permeability of the hepatocellular membrane.

 

In longitudinal studies of athletes treated with anabolic steroids, contradictory results were obtained on the plasma activity of liver enzymes (AST, AST, LDH, GGT, AP). In some studies, enzymes were increased, whereas in others no changes were found. When increases were found, the values were moderately increased and normalized within weeks after abstinence. There are some suggestions that the occurrence of hepatic enzyme leakage, is partly determined by the pre-treatment condition of the liver. Therefore, individuals with abnormal liver function appear to be at risk.

 

Anabolic Steroids and the Male Reproductive System

 

AS are derivatives of testosterone, which has strong genitotropic effects. For this reason, it will not be surprising that side effects include the reproductive system. Application of anabolic steroids leads to supra-physiological concentrations of testosterone or testosterone derivatives. Via the feed back loop, the production and release of luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle stimulation hormone (FSH) is decreased.

 

Prolonged use of anabolic steroids in relatively high doses will lead to hypogonadotrophic hypogonadism, with decreased serum concentrations of LH, FSH, and testosterone.

 

There are strong indications that the duration, dosage, and chemical structure of the anabolic steroids are important for the serum concentrations of gonadotropins. A moderate decrease of gonadotropin secretion causes atrophy of the testes, as well as a decrease of sperm cell production. Oligo, azoospermia and an increased number of abnormal sperm cells have been reported in athletes using AS, resulting in a decreased fertility. After stopping AS use, the gonadal functions will restore within some months. There are indications, however, that it may take several months.

 

In bodybuilding, where usually high dosages are uses, after stopping steroid use, often choriogonadotropins are administered to stimulate testicular function. The effectiveness of this therapy is unknown.

 

The various studies suggest that using more than one type of anabolic steroid at the same time ("stacking") causes a stronger inhibition of the gonadal functions than using one single anabolic steroid. After abstention from anabolic steroids these changes in fertility usually reverse within some months. However, several cases of have been reported in which the situation of hypogonadism lasted for more than 12 weeks.

 

A well known side effect of AS in males is breast formation (gynecomastia). Gynecomastia is caused by increased levels of circulating estrogens, which are typical female sex hormones. The estrogens estradiol and estrone are formed in males by peripheral aromatization and conversion of AS. The increased levels of circulation estrogens in males stimulate breast growth. In general, gynecomastia is irreversible.

 

AS may affect sexual desire. Although few investigations on this issue have been published, it appears that during AS use sexual desire is increased, although the frequency of erectile dysfunction is increased. This may seem contradictory, but sexual appetite is androgen dependent, while erectile function is not. Since sexual desire and aggressiveness are increased during AS use, the risk of getting involved in sexual assault may be increased.

 

Anabolic Steroids and the Female Reproductive System

 

In the normal female body small amounts of testosterone are produced, and as in males, artificially increasing levels by administration of AS will affect the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis. An increase in circulating androgens will inhibit the production and release of LH and FSH, resulting in a decline in serum levels of LH, FSH, estrogens and progesterone. This may result in inhibition of follicle formation, ovulation, and irregularities of the menstrual cycle. The irregularities of the menstrual cycle are characterized by a prolongation of the follicular phase, shortening of the luteal phase or amenorrhea. Although these changes are generally more pronounced in younger women, large inter-individual responsiveness to anabolic steroids exists. The effects of AS dosages as generally used in sport, on the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis in females are hardly studied.

 

Other side effects of anabolic steroid use in females are increased sexual desire and hypertrophy of the clitoris. The few systematic studies that have been conducted suggest that the effects are similar to the effects in patients, treated with anabolic steroids.

 

Anabolic steroid use by pregnant women may lead to pseudohermaphroditism or to growth retardation of the female fetus. Anabolic steroid use may even lead to fetal death. However, these side effects have not been studied systematically. It is likely that the severity of the side effects is related to the dosage, duration of use and the type of the drug.

 

Additional side effects of anabolic steroids specifically in women are acne, hair loss, withdrawal of the frontal hair line, male pattern boldness, lowering of the voice, increased facial hair growth, and breast atrophy. The lowering of the voice, decreased breast size, clitoris hypertrophy and hair loss are generally irreversible. Females using AS may develop masculine facial traits, male muscularity, and coarsening of the skin.

 

When anabolic steroids are administered in growing children side effects include virilization, gynecomastia, and premature closure of the epiphysis, resulting in cessation of longitudinal growth.

 

Serum Lipoproteins and the Cardiovascular System

 

AS also affect the cardiovascular system and the serum lipid profile. Relatively few studies have been done to investigate the effect of anabolic steroids on the cardiovascular system. No longitudinal studies have been conducted on the effect of anabolic steroids on cardiovascular morbidity and mortality.

 

Most of the investigations have been focused on risk factors for cardiovascular diseases, and in particular the effect of anabolic steroids on blood pressure and on plasma lipoproteins. In most cross-sectional studies serum cholesterol and triglycerides between drug-free users and non-users is not different. However, during anabolic steroid use total cholesterol tends to increase, while HDL-cholesterol demonstrates a marked decline, well below the normal range. Serum LDL-cholesterol shows a variable response: a slight increase or no change. The response of total cholesterol seems to be influenced by the type of training that is done by the athlete. When a great deal of the exercise consists of aerobic exercise, the increasing effect of AS is counterbalanced by an exercise-induced increasing effect, which may result in a net decline in total cholesterol. Aerobic training does not seem to be able to offset the steroid-induced decline in HDL-cholesterol and its subfractions HDL-2, and HDL-3.

 

The precise effect of anabolic steroids on LDL-cholesterol is unknown yet. It appears that anabolic steroids influence hepatic triglyceride lipase (HTL) and lipoprotein lipase (LPL). Males usually have higher levels of HTL, while females have higher LPL activity. HTL is primarily responsible for the clearance of HDL-cholesterol, while LPL takes care of cellular uptake of free fatty acids and glycerol. Androgens and anabolic steroids stimulate HTL, presumably resulting in decreased serum levels of HDL-cholesterol.

 

The effect of anabolic steroids on triglycerides is not well known. It is suggested that relatively low doses do not affect the serum triglyceride levels, while it cannot be excluded that higher doses elicit an increase.

 

No unanimity exists about the influence of anabolic steroids on arterial blood pressure. The response is most probably dose dependent. There is some data suggesting that high doses increase diastolic blood pressure, whereas low doses fail to have a significant effect on diastolic blood pressure. Increases in diastolic blood pressure normalize within 6-8 weeks after abstinence from anabolic steroids. It appears that repeated intermittent use of anabolic steroids does not affect diastolic blood pressure during drug free periods.

 

There is evidence that the use of anabolic steroids does elicit structural changes in the heart and that the ischemic tolerance is decreased after steroid use. Echocardiographic studies in bodybuilders, using anabolic steroids, reported a mild hypertrophy of the left ventricle, with a decreased diastolic relaxation, resulting in a decreased diastolic filling. Some investigators have associated cardiomyopathy, myocardial infarction, and cerebro-vascular accidents with abuse of anabolic steroids. However, a possible causal relationship could not been proved, because longitudinal studies that are necessary to prove such a relationship, have not been conducted yet. There is convincing evidence that oral administration of anabolic steroids has stronger adverse effects on the mentioned variables than parenteral administration.

 

Although the effects of anabolic steroids have an unfavorable influence on the risk factors for cardiovascular disease, no data are available about the long term effects. Most of the mentioned effects appear to reverse within 6-8 weeks after abstention. It is unknown, however, whether the structural changes as reported in the heart, are reversible as well.

 

Psychological Effects

 

Administration of AS may affect behavior. Increased testosterone levels in the blood are associated with masculine behavior, aggressiveness and increased sexual desire. Increased aggressiveness may be beneficial for athletic training, but may also lead to overt violence outside the gym or the track. There are reports of violent, criminal behavior in individuals taking AS. Other side effects of AS are euphoria, confusion, sleeping disorders, pathological anxiety, paranoia, and hallucinations.

 

Anabolic steroid users may become dependent on the drug, with symptoms of withdrawal after cessation of drug use. The withdrawal symptoms consist of aggressive and violent behavior, mental depression with suicidal behavior, mood changes, and in some cases acute psychosis. At present it is unknown which individuals are particularly at risk. It is likely that great individual differences in responsiveness may exist. Some individuals try to minimize the withdrawal affects by administration of human choriogonadotropins (hCG), in order to enhance endogenous testosterone production. However, it is unknown in how far the hCG administration is successful in ameliorating the withdrawal effects.

 

Additional Side Effects

 

In addition to the mentioned side effects several others have been reported. In both males and females acne are frequently reported, as well as hypertrophy of sebaceous glands, increased tallow excretion, hair loss, and alopecia. There is some evidence that anabolic steroid abuse may affect the immune system, leading to a decreased effectiveness of the defense system. Steroid use decreases the glucose tolerance, while there is an increase in insulin resistance. These changes mimic Type II diabetes. These changes seem to be reversible after abstention from the drugs.

 

There are some case reports suggesting a causal relationship between anabolic steroid use and the occurrence of Wilms tumor, and prostatic carcinoma. In the literature also sleep apnea has been reported, which has been associated with AS-induced increased in hematocrit, leading to blood stasis and thrombosis.

 

AS use may affect thyroid function. Administration of AS has been found to decrease thyroid stimulation hormone (TSH), and the products of the thyroid gland. In addition, thyroid binding globulin (TBG). These changes reversed within weeks after discontinuation of AS use.

 

A serious consequence of AS use may be the multiple drug abuse. On the one hand athletes use different kinds of drugs in an attempt to counterbalance the side effects: hCG, thyroid hormones, anti-estrogens, anti-depressants. On the other hand people try to support the anabolic effects of AS by using additional anabolic hormones as for instance: different types of AS at the same time, growth hormone, insulin, erythropoietine, and clenbuterol. Because most of this takes place outside the official medical circuit, it is likely that these practices may lead to serious conditions.

 

References

 

1. Alen, M., P. Rahkila. Anabolic-androgenic steroid effects on endocrinology and lipid metabolism in athletes. Sports Med. 6: 327-332, 1988

 

2. American College of Sports Medicine. Position stand on the use of anabolic-androgenic steroids in sport. Med. Sci. Sports Exerc. 19(5): 534-539, 1987

 

3. Bahrke, M.S., C.E. Yesalis, J.E. Wright. Psychological and behavioral effects of endogenous testosterone levels and anabolic-androgenic steroids among athletes; a review. Sports Med. 10(5): 303-337, 1990

 

4. Cohen, J.C., R. Hickman. Insulin resistance and diminished glucose tolerance in power lifters ingesting anabolic steroids. J. Clin. Endocrinol. Metab. 64: 960-963, 1987

 

5. De Piccoli, B., F. Giada, A. Benettin, F. Sartori, E. Piccolo. Anabolic steroid use in body builders: an echocardiographic study of left ventricular morphology and function. Int. J. Sports Med. 12(4): 408-412, 1991

 

6. Haupt, H.A. Anabolic steroids and growth hormone. Am. J. Sports Med. 21(3): 468-474, 1993

 

7. Wilson, J.D. Androgen abuse in athletes. Endocr. Rev. 9(2): 181-199, 1988

 

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[r0bin]

hi guys! i need your help!

 

Can you suggest any supplements that can help boost my appetite? I mean my eating habit is bad. Kumakain lang ako pag nagugutom. Which is really bad because im very thin alredy. Ive tried profan and various multivitamins and it seems to work in the beginning.. but once i get used to it, balik nanaman ako sa bad eating habits ko. Plus, im working in a callcenter so pabago bago ang work schedule. And to add to the problems i have, i havent really checked with a doctor but i think i have a really high metabilosm rating. I know for a fact that i need to take in more to gain more.. I mean i eat lots but i dont gain weight. Help!

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parehas tayo pre. medyo tamad ako kumain kelangan asikasuhin pa ni yaya hehehehe

 

ang ginawa ko eh bumili na lng ako ng weight gain powder. beverage to pre and ul be full dahil kakainom. sa gnc to

[Dreman]

parehas tayo pre. medyo tamad ako kumain kelangan asikasuhin pa ni yaya hehehehe

 

ang ginawa ko eh bumili na lng ako ng weight gain powder. beverage to pre and ul be full dahil kakainom. sa gnc to

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Thanks for the reminder. I need to punch myself in the head. I actually bought a huge weight gain powder bucket alredy at healthy options but i dont drink it. Maybe its a psychological problem. HAhaha. I guess the real question i should be asking is : what supplements do u recommend to boost my eating habits greatly? Except for cannabis. hehehe

[Guest k....]

anyone here heard of ZMA?

[Jack_ryan]

Does anyone experience being hungrier after taking ON 100% Whey ? Actually I stopped (got sick and couldn't do any weights training). But when i took it before, I'm always hungry. I take it 30 mins before breakfast, an hour and a half before workout (around 5:30 in the afternoon), within 30 mins. after workout and before going to bed. I noticed that i ate more at breakfast and lunch than when i wasn't taking ON.

I don't take heavy dinner. Just a fruit or cracker along with ON.

 

Nothing bad is happening. Mas gutom lang ako when I take it.

[r0bin]

Does anyone experience being hungrier after taking ON 100% Whey ?  Actually I stopped (got sick and couldn't do any weights training). But when i took it before, I'm always hungry.  I take it  30 mins before breakfast, an hour and a half before workout (around 5:30 in the afternoon),  within 30 mins. after workout and before going to bed. I noticed that i ate more at breakfast  and lunch than when i wasn't taking ON.

I don't take heavy dinner. Just a fruit or cracker along with ON.

 

Nothing bad is happening. Mas gutom lang ako when I take it.

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im also taking On's and i experienced the same gutom u r saying but i think it's primarily because of tiredness going to the gym. i dont think it's bec of On's whey in my case

[unzipme]

bka may recommend lang kau

I'm planning to buy supplement this weekend, d ko lang alam kung Cell tech or ONs or kung may iba pang ok n brand.

based s mga nabasa ko, almost the same lang, I'm just thinking kung ano mas effective, advantage or disadvantage of this two..

 

Actually bumalik ako s workout 2 weeks ago, en nkaka 4 sessions n ko.. last ko is 2 yrs ago? hehe

I know my body, en mabilis madevelop ang muscle ko, actually gatas lang iniino ko. I havnt tried supplement. for the record, try ko lang this time para malaman ko kung ano ang effect s body ko.. thats why Im thinking of this 2 products. ur ideas are very much welcome..

salamat po.

[wyvern]

Read somewhere that creatine nakaka pimples, totoo ba eto?

[Guest k....]

Read somewhere that creatine nakaka pimples, totoo ba eto?

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my derma told me the same thing, but for some reason i've never had any more pimples than the usual..the genes, i guess..i really just take the creatine for the effect on endurance, lets me do more reps than when im not "fueled"

[noah]

Read somewhere that creatine nakaka pimples, totoo ba eto?

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never heard of this...i've used 3 different brands for the past 2 years but my usage of them never resulted to pimples...but then different folks, get different reactions....just my 2-cents..

[noah]

anyone here heard of ZMA?

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yes...ZMA is a scientifically designed anabolic mineral formula. It contains Zinc Monomethionine Aspartate and Magnesium Aspartate plus vitamin B-6 and is an all-natural product that has been clinically proven to significantly increase anabolic hormone levels and muscle strength in trained athletes. According to a study I read, it increases strength by 20 to 30 percent...just my 3-cents...noah

[Batabatuta®]

What's the best multivitamin in the market these days? I've been using Radiance from Health Express but I really got no idea how it fares with the other multivitamins for men.

[jackson5]

any feedback on NO2?

[spitzky]

any feedback on NO2?

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NO2 is bullcrap

Edited August 9, 2005 by spitzky

[jackson5]

any further details why its bullcrap?

 

sabi kase ng mga friends ko sikat daw to sa US ngayon

[spitzky]

any further details why its bullcrap?

 

sabi kase ng mga friends ko sikat daw to sa US ngayon

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sikat yes, but THERE ARE NO SCIENTIFIC STUDIES WHATSOEVER PROVING NO2'S BENEFITS... if u can find one, id love to see it..........

[jackson5]

ok, so di ka talaga naniniwala sa NO2 pareng spitzky

 

u may be right...

 

mahal pa naman tong NO2 na to

 

tnx!

 

but i suppose u do take other supplements?

[r0bin]

what ae ypu drinking guys during workouts?

 

ok na ba gatorade? ano ba magandang energizer. minsan ang bilis ko mapagod sa gym eh. sayang yung workout

[Guest k....]

what ae ypu drinking guys during workouts?

 

ok na ba gatorade? ano ba magandang energizer. minsan ang bilis ko mapagod sa gym eh. sayang yung workout

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f**kin water pare. if you easily get tired, a serving of creatine 1 hour before you hit the weights. powdered creatine works better in the long run (recent reading materials say) pero, if your issue really is all psychological and water doesnt cut if for you, try sparkling water, it's 0 calories but you get the same softdrink kick (that's how i find it myself, at least). just remember to NOT take it WITH creatine; citric acid kills creatine right off the bat

 

lastly, dont even think about C2, please

[Guest k....]

By the way, anyone here tried Crea10 Tech? I like the taste, though it's a bit pricey (~P65/serving) in retail, the fact that it's a local company who makes it.. or anyone else tried it/knows where you can buy it in bulk?

 

Check it here

[spitzky]

ok, so di ka talaga naniniwala sa NO2 pareng spitzky

 

u may be right...

 

mahal pa naman tong NO2 na to

 

tnx!

 

but i suppose u do take other supplements?

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creatine... thats about it really, but off cycle ako now, im losing weight

 

what ae ypu drinking guys during workouts?

 

ok na ba gatorade? ano ba magandang energizer. minsan ang bilis ko mapagod sa gym eh. sayang yung workout

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gatorade is good, and a cup of black coffee an hour before workouts

 

f**kin water pare. if you easily get tired, a serving of creatine 1 hour before you hit the weights. powdered creatine works better in the long run (recent reading materials say) pero, if your issue really is all psychological and water doesnt cut if for you, try sparkling water, it's 0 calories but you get the same softdrink kick (that's how i find it myself, at least). just remember to NOT take it WITH creatine; citric acid kills creatine right off the bat

 

lastly, dont even think about C2, please

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try not to take creatine before workouts, coz it'll just go straight to ur pee (ive posted articles on creatine in here somewhere... backread)

take creatine AFTER training

 

By the way, anyone here tried Crea10 Tech? I like the taste, though it's a bit pricey (~P65/serving) in retail, the fact that it's a local company who makes it.. or anyone else tried it/knows where you can buy it in bulk?

 

Check it here

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from the site:

Using optimal levels of a high glycemic carbohydrate, 30g Dextrose, Crea10TECH stimulates insulin production which aids in uptake of creatine in to muscle cells. To further enhance this transport action, an insulin-mimicking vitamin, Alpha Lipoic Acid, is added. ALA may also help temper blood sugar levels to prevent the hyperglycemia experienced with other creatine-dextrose formulas. ALA is also a potent antioxidant which may reduce the oxidative damage caused by exercise.

 

im not a big fan of fancy creatine products... take good old creatine monohydrate powder instead...

why? coz the dextrose they added to "stimulate insulin production which aids in uptake of creatine in to muscle cells"??? well id say thats just wasting ur money right there... THE SAME EFFECT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY EATING WHITE BREAD OR JUST SUGAR WITH REGULAR CREATINE.. amen :goatee:

[r0bin]

tnx for the replies

 

so, what's the best creatine brand here?

 

if also taking whey powder? how? sabay? magkahiwalay? how many times a day?after? before? during workouts? pls help so i can use the powders properly

 

tnx guys

[kendrick01]

pre ung sinasabi mong effective na supplement saan ba me pwede bumili.pwede ba sau.?eto no. ko text mo naman me..gusto ko bumili

 

 

 

1. ang tinitira daw ang creatine ay ang liver (gee...umiinom pa naman ako...!!!)

kapag umiinom ka liver den tinitira mo nyan pre. even the simple paracetamol that you take is toxic to your liver. i recomend you take it in low dose lang.

2. magkakaroon ka daw ng too much acne (face and back) if u take creatine..

so far hinde ko pa ito na e-encounter. ive used different kinds of supplements and so far so good. no bad and harmful effects naman.

 

ano ba talga mga kuya? gusto ko na talagang magpalaki ng katawan...i do still have a lot of questions:

 

1. what is the best creatine and amino acid in the market? which is more effective?

IMHO its Creatine 6000-ES by Muscletech. Ive tried different brands before and didnt like it but this one is great. you could add it to water lang ok na. well to each his own.

2. in buying creatine, which is the best, in powder or capsule form?

I'm not so sure but i will go with powder form.

3. how to take those stuffs? how many caps per day? (especially for beginners..)

Read the directions on the label. i suggest you start with a low dose.

4. how do u take it? with an empty stomach or with filled stomach?

i take 5 grams of crea first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. it worked for me.

5. can i take whey protein at the same time while taking those stuffs?

Yes! Mas maganda yun if you have the budget. I take Whey, Glutamine, Creatine and BCAA sabay sabay.

6. whats the cheapest and most efective brand of creatine and amino acids?

cheapest crea i think is gr8. they sell at tobys. amino? sakin ka nalang kumuha!

7. what does creatine and amino acids do to ur muscles?

So, what is creatine? Our bodies naturally make the compound, which is used to supply energy to our muscles. It is produced in the liver, pancreas, and kidneys, and is transported to the body's muscles through the bloodstream. Once it reaches the muscles, it is converted into phosphocreatine (creatine phosphate). This high-powered metabolite is used to regenerate the muscles' ultimate energy source, ATP (adenosine triphosphate).

 

Unlike steroids or drugs, creatine is 100% natural and occurs naturally in many foods; therefore, it can never be banned from any sports or international competitions (unless they banned eating meat). Many foods especially herring, salmon, tuna, and beef contain some creatine. However, the very best source of creatine by far is creatine monohydrate because it contains more creatine per weight of material than any other source. Bodybuilding.com sells only high quality 99.9% pure pharmaceutical-grade creatine monohydrate.

 

Amino acids are the building blocks of protein. They come from protein rich sources such as meat, fish, dairy products, and vegetables such as legumes, peas, and grains. There are many types of amino acid supplements on the market. Some products claim to have a large quantity of amino acids, but come primarily from a weak protein source (such as milk). Unfortunately, people may have allergies associated with the protein source. Our supplement formula is comprised of the highest quality crystalline protein source.

8. can i drink alcohol/coffee while taking these supplements?

Yes

9. any diet program while taking these stuffs?

It depends on your goal if you wanna lose your "bilbil" mag diet ka. or try not to take carbs 4-5 hours before bedtime.

10. what is the diffrence between whey protein and creatine? whey and amino?

i think i explained this already..

11. any side effects of taking these supplements?

i had very bad tummy trouble when i took this brand of crea. very bad. after a week of use i gave it to a friend. hehe. now am taking muscletech creatine 6000-es. very effective.

12. what are the best abs excersise?

crunches, leg raise, knee tuck.. madami bro.

 

i hope that you can help me guys..especially to those experts on these...

rebel_heart

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whooo.. happy lifting!

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[Guest k....]

try not to take creatine before workouts, coz it'll just go straight to ur pee (ive posted articles on creatine in here somewhere... backread)

take creatine AFTER training

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hmm. i shouldve put that in perspective; my primary reason for taking creatine is for the performance boost I get when in the weights room, but i havent really focused so much on taking it regularly (i take it on *gulps air* workout days) and i've talked to the family doc about it; i guess that's how athletes take it during training when preparing for an event as well. i try to tread the waters carefully mainly because the family has a history of liver weakness, and i don't really take the stuff regularly, eg cycle it on and off. i guess it would all boil down to one's goals, and mine is primarily not size/bulk/bodybuilding per se (though in the back of my head i like seeing myself wicked ripped HAHAH) if anything i could be wrong though; oh well it gets me off anyways

[jackson5]

guys, i need ur opinion or ur expertise on this...

 

are the products of Base6(a local firm) reliable?

they have creatine, whey, glutamine, etc.

 

a friend told me kase na with regards to creatine, mas ok daw ung hindi galing ng asia

the reason is, mas maganda daw ang quality nung galing ng us o europe

nabasa daw nya to sa isang magazine

i this true?

 

i know kase na mas mura kase sana ung products ng Base6

pero if i will get less also, wala rin ako natipid

 

thanks.