gryphon Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 uh, no, eat right first. no magic pills here again. if you can afford to exert the effort preparing and the time to do it with real protein sources most likely you wouldnt find protein powder of much use, Methinks everyone will agree<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I do agree with your statement with one exception. Most of us don't have that extra time in preparing 6 meals a day, nor are we looking at consuming the extra items in reaching 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight in real food. I believe most of us are just trying to keep healthy and to look better. Cutting out supplements in reaching that goal maybe a little short sided. Let’s look at a best case scenario. Ex. Tuna in spring water (Chicken of the sea brand)Calories: 60.00 Calories from Fat: 5 Total Fat: 0.50 g. Saturated Fat: 0 g. Cholesterol: 30.00 mg. Sodium: 250.00 mg. Total Carbohydrates: 0 g. Sugars: 0 g. Protein: 13.00 g. Ex. Optimum Nutrition 100% Gold Standard Whey ProteinCalories - 120 Calories from Fat - 10 Total Fat - 1g - Saturated Fat - 0.5g Cholesterol - 30mgTotal Carbohydrate - 3gSugars - 1gProtein - 24gPotassium - 220mgCalcium - 140mgSodium - 60mg Tuna: close to 3lbs a day13 grams protein = 2oz of tuna = 60 calories200 lb person (1.5 grams/protein) = 300 grams = 46oz of tuna (23 servings) = 1380 calories Cholesterol 690mg (290% USDA daily recommended) Sodium 5750mg (290% USDA daily recommended) Protein Powder:200 lb person (1.5 grams/protein) = 300 grams = 12.5 servings = 1500 calories Cholesterol 375mg (120% USDA daily recommended) Sodium 720mg (36% USDA daily recommended) Quote Link to comment
Guest k.... Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I do agree with your statement with one exception. Most of us don't have that extra time in preparing 6 meals a day, nor are we looking at consuming the extra items in reaching 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight in real food. I believe most of us are just trying to keep healthy and to look better. Cutting out supplements in reaching that goal maybe a little short sided.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sorry bro, I didnt mean to say that they should be cut out; I was only pointing out that he should consider developing the discipline in getting his eating habits straightened out before even thinking about supplements; I've seen way too many guys in my gym chug down bottle after bottle of protein shake in the course of a workout only light up a cancer stick right outside the gym minutes after. It just irks me to unusual proportions. Similarly, eating sh*t food destroys the very premise of working out/healthy living. Quote Link to comment
Big Al Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 im currently taking 15mg of Reductil* daily.. it worked; i lost 20 pounds in less than a month.. pero sinabayan ko nang 30 mins on threadmill, 5 days a week.. no softdrinks / sweets.. and less rice (minsan NO RICE) pag kumakain.. im still taking the pill hanggang ngayun.. Reductil doesnt burn fats; it just controlls ur appetite.. para kang laging busog.. side effects: dry mouth and insomia (note: sa 1st week nyo lang ma e experience yung side effects).. Quote Link to comment
dj_flip03 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 (edited) I've achieved my goal which is to lose weight (from 144lbs to 125lbs in 4 mos!!!!) using Extreme Ripped Fuel. Although, yes, I still notice some fats hanging around my belly pero di na sya halata tulad ng dati (from 33 in to 29 waistline!!!). Now I'm kinda curious coz while i'm working out I noticed some parts of my body started to define like my chest, triceps, biceps, back and I would like to define it more without gaining too much weight. Napapansin ko din na parang hanggang dun na lang ang paglaki ng mga muscles ko (plateu stage???) siguro I'm not taking enough protein. Here's my main question: If I use AMINO ACID this time as my supplement, will it help me get what I want to happen? I dont want a bulky kinda body, but a nice slim and defined one (yung tipong rock star kind of physique). I've read about CLA (conjugated linoleic acid) and it seems its target is to loose fat located around the tummy. Can this do the trick? Or maybe I should just stick with Extreme Ripped Fuel..? Thanks!!! Edited September 23, 2005 by dj_flip03 Quote Link to comment
r0bin Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Creatine Loading and Creatine Use - Proper Creatine Cycling Creatine cycling, a.k.a., something-i've-never-attempted-doing-because-of-liver-weakness; <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i thought loading phase needs only 5gms a day? bakit dun sa site na yun eh eh 20gms? Quote Link to comment
KeniPo Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 just wanna ask.. where can i buy a good source of CREATINE MONOHYDRATE? and what brand should i buy?!? oh, and another thing, about the post above ^... cguro kaya 20g ung nakalagay dun kasi pang super heavy weight body builders un! ung mga tipong wrestler.. ehhe. just a thought. hehe. ngaun pa lang ako susubok ng creatine.. sana gumana sakin.. Quote Link to comment
crazykalbo Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Hi, Im new here. Been working out for more than 4 years. Ive never been serious with supplementation although I have seen my body develop, especially my pecs and my back. my friend is advising me to use what he uses: anabolic and growth hormone releasers. Im not sure if it works though... anyone heard of such things? Quote Link to comment
spitzky Posted September 25, 2005 Share Posted September 25, 2005 Hi, Im new here. Been working out for more than 4 years. Ive never been serious with supplementation although I have seen my body develop, especially my pecs and my back. my friend is advising me to use what he uses: anabolic and growth hormone releasers. Im not sure if it works though... anyone heard of such things?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> hmmm... are we talking tribulus terrestris (good) or some other fancypants supp (bad)? Quote Link to comment
gryphon Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 ... Steroids are serious drugs taken only for serious diseases and monitored closely by a doctor. Taken on its own, it provides no health benefit. Sure you build up muscles fast, but at the risk of what? You look good at the peak of your life then at 30-40 years old, you get hip pain and your doctor tells you you have avascular necrosis of the hip for which you need a hip replacement (papalitan ng bakal ang balakang), a surgery which costs in the hundred of thousands of pesos. Or a person can't figure out why he and his wife can't have a baby - the doctor says the sperm count is really low because his testicles have atrophied. These are only a few of the many documented problems with steroids! This is why in the field of medicine, systemic steroids are always a last resort! Peace my friends! I don't mean to antagonize anyone, it's just that I feel obligated to share my knowledge on medical matters as serious as this. Like I always tell my patients, they are the masters of their bodies and have the option not to follow a single word I have told them, but so long as they know the risks involved, so choose wisely! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> hint-of-lime, Thank you for your research into this matter. The abuse of steroids can lead to a lot of unwanted side-effects. But what does your research say on healthy adult males cycling steroids? The US has banned steroids and even made them illegal to posses without a doctor’s prescription. What they don't tell you is the American Medical Association, Dept of Health and Human services and Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) all oppose such a move. I have not found a long term study that can point distinctly to the negative side-effects of anabolic steroids when taken in a responsible manner, ie. cycling the drug in healthy adult males. If you can find such a study I would really like to see it. Peace Quote Link to comment
pogingpogi Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 mga bros narinig niyo na ba yung nutrafit or nutrifit it helps in digestion daw and good fat burner anybody na nagtatake sa inyo? info naman.... Quote Link to comment
Jack_ryan Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Hi,Me tanong lang ako.. pwde bang e-stack ang creatine pati tribulus ? Effective ba ang swole v.2 ng syntrax ? Quote Link to comment
joshua_sx1 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 ...question, how did these ladies got those muscles? Quote Link to comment
dj_flip03 Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Is there anyone out here sells TWINLAB CLA FUEL? How much yung 60 caps? Thanks! Quote Link to comment
Google Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 ...question, how did these ladies got those muscles? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> steroids yan bro. Quote Link to comment
probpt Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 question...whats better for fat loss xenadrine or ripped fuel? hydroxycut doesnt work for me and im using xenadrine. but i want to try something new and i was wondering if ripped fuel is better... thanks! Quote Link to comment
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