masi Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Masi, Being compared to Paris and Nicole (of the fashionista fame) is a compliment....Iconic status yan!!! Better than Beavis and Butthead. But seriously..you guys really know what you are talking about. Mo doubt. I guess it takes time and money to get to that level of appreciation. Cheers!!!<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi LNPM, Great to hear from you again! I have to correct your impression on the appreciation and knowledge that we hold on wine. Frankly, I don't have much info except for what bods and agxo and the rest of the crew post as well as, the private research I do. Well, if you call reading magazine articles research ? The time and moolah spent in appreciating wine are determined by the passion you have for it. It is perhaps no different from girls wanting to have the latest in bags, shoes, clothes. I my case, just as everyone here, if I maybe allowed to speak for them, would be wines and (plus, a few other things). Thanks for the "Paris and Nicole" branding, altho watching them leaves really strong tannins, but still better than Beavis and Butthead which I would like to compare to really bad Chinese wines! I wonder what you would be calling the group if the group regulars have reached 5? Do you tag us the "Fab 5"? (Boy, I better learn a thing or 2 about branding, brand equity and advertising? Any teacher in the house?) Quote Link to comment
masi Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 (edited) good morning, folks!ok before we pop the first cork for the day, let me share with you this bit of a downright amusing news. Ever heard of a talking wine label? Seems an Italian firm has patented a microchip embedded ( I love that word!) in a wine label. It comes in its usual square or rectangular form and the plastic label can be removed and "read" in a special Walkman-like device ( which you also have to buy). The manufacturer or a person then tells you details about the wine - like vintage, region, the origin of the grapes in the wine, the winery, etc. Kinda stupefying, would you agree? hehehe It says this is the ultimate safeguard against fraud and counterfeit wines, which seems so rampant these days....Of course this would appear only on high-end brands.... cheers!<{POST_SNAPBACK}> this is good reading bods! Good morning! I guess as long as there are quality products in the market, trust that there are counterfeits shadowing it. I would still like to see traditional labelling. Maybe the "purist" in me. I hope those tags will be hidden and away from the labels. A good place to put them would be between the cork and the foil. Better yet, come up that technology to make flex circuits where the circuit is imbedded in the foil already. Edited July 12, 2005 by masi Quote Link to comment
masi Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 i am feeling better now..thanks. will do..will make sure i am updated on what is happening..see you hopefully in the forthcoming wine session....ebs doesnt sound good huh...yah? hehehe..have a good one ...too (i agree! as what pinoys would say... sounds family! wbehehehe)<{POST_SNAPBACK}> hi cutie... glad to know you are feeling well. ok when you attend our sessions, i will bring a bottle of sparking grape juice!!!! well, visually it could pass for sparkling wine. yeah, have a good 1! Quote Link to comment
igol ays Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 ...tells you details about the wine - like vintage, region, the origin of the grapes in the wine, the winery, etc. It says this is the ultimate safeguard against fraud and counterfeit wines, which seems so rampant these days....Of course this would appear only on high-end brands.... cheers!<{POST_SNAPBACK}>but most of that information is already on the label... Quote Link to comment
igol ays Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Wine label information: 1. Name of winery 2. Appellation - Name of the winegrowing region. 3. Name of the vineyard(s) 4. Varietal name - If there is no varietal name, the wine is probably a blend (cuvee). To be able to call a wine by the varietal name, it must contain at least 75% of wine from that grape. Traditional wines from France, Italy, and Spain, use the place of origin instead of the varietal. 5. Vintage - The year the grapes were grown. If there is no vintage, it is probably a mixture of wines made in different years. Some labels have other technical data such as percentage of varietals if it is a blend, residual sugar, percentage alcohol, etc. --- Other Information Found on Wine Labels --- "Cellared and Bottled By" means that the winery bought the wine and bottled it. "Made and Bottled By" means that the winery made at least 10% of the wine. "Produced and Bottled By" means that the winery made at least 75% of the wine. "Estate Bottled" means that the winery not only made 100% of the wine but also grew the grapes on land owned by the winery. "Vintner's Reserve," "Estate Reserve" or "Select" etc. - Terms like these have no set (or legal) meaning, although within certain wineries these terms may have specific meaning. Labeling laws and requirements will vary between countries. Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 but most of that information is already on the label... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yes but the point is that labels can be counterfeited - there's a lot of them now. Chances of coming up with a fake "talking label" is almost nil... remember the fake Moet Et Chandon made in Cuba - with fake labels, corks and all but with swill inside the bottle? Labels can be printed or obtained illegally and put on a bottle with swill inside. Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 speaking of fraud, 3 managers of Champagne Esterlin were recently indicted of fraud for labelling their wines under FALSE VINTAGES!!! could you imagine that! The investigation revealed that this has been going on at that Champagne house now for several years. as pareng agxo would say - What evil lurks behind the hearts of winemakers? Quote Link to comment
masi Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 speaking of fraud, 3 managers of Champagne Esterlin were recently indicted of fraud for labelling their wines under FALSE VINTAGES!!! could you imagine that! The investigation revealed that this has been going on at that Champagne house now for several years. as pareng agxo would say - What evil lurks behind the hearts of winemakers? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> this is the lowest form of counterfeiting... imagine a winery misdeclaring vintage ... what for? beef up the profit and loss statement? come on... :thumbsdownsmiley: Quote Link to comment
licknpokeme Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Masi, There is an image of you I have....please do not miscontrue and look at the obvious association...If the Phil. would have its version of the "Queer Eye for the straight Guy"...I think you would fit the gourmand role in it...I don't know why, but something feels right ???? Maybe the costly PEN you have in your avatar is andication of your finer tastes...My guess too, would be your handle MASI would be a brand of something expensive??? Let me try and find out. :-) The images of you an Bods 1000 and maybe the rest of the guys here at this forum is that of Metrosexuals... please... not to be taken as anything derogatory, but more as a compliment. Or maybe...I just know too many beer-guzzling, burping men. Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 this is the lowest form of counterfeiting... imagine a winery misdeclaring vintage ... what for? beef up the profit and loss statement? come on... :thumbsdownsmiley:<{POST_SNAPBACK}> it could be that if they had a wonderful vintage - say 1998 - then succeeding vintages would be also declared as 1998 knowing that people would buy it - that year being such a hit! Evil!!!...and I thought only us winedrinkers were evil :evil: Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 Masi, There is an image of you I have....please do not miscontrue and look at the obvious association...If the Phil. would have its version of the "Queer Eye for the straight Guy"...I think you would fit the gourmand role in it...I don't know why, but something feels right ???? Maybe the costly PEN you have in your avatar is andication of your finer tastes...My guess too, would be your handle MASI would be a brand of something expensive??? Let me try and find out. :-) The images of you an Bods 1000 and maybe the rest of the guys here at this forum is that of Metrosexuals... please... not to be taken as anything derogatory, but more as a compliment. Or maybe...I just know too many beer-guzzling, burping men.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> ugh!I'm as jologs as jologs can be... As Celine Lopez said - will anybody please strike off metrosexuals from the vocabulary? It's such a ludicrous word. The guy who coined that grossness should be mixed in in a vat fermenting Carlo Rossi :sick: Quote Link to comment
masi Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 (edited) Hehe and part of today's discovery is that some of the boys have some small crush on me. I wonder why???? *back read ulit*<{POST_SNAPBACK}> how come this comment comes to me with the same expectation i would have for any shiraz or a cabernet sauvignon.... *strikers ... no surprise, senorita!!!! Edited July 12, 2005 by masi Quote Link to comment
masi Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 (edited) Masi, There is an image of you I have....please do not miscontrue and look at the obvious association...If the Phil. would have its version of the "Queer Eye for the straight Guy"...I think you would fit the gourmand role in it...I don't know why, but something feels right ???? Maybe the costly PEN you have in your avatar is andication of your finer tastes...My guess too, would be your handle MASI would be a brand of something expensive??? Let me try and find out. :-) The images of you an Bods 1000 and maybe the rest of the guys here at this forum is that of Metrosexuals... please... not to be taken as anything derogatory, but more as a compliment. Or maybe...I just know too many beer-guzzling, burping men.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> HAHAHAHAHA!!! :boo: :boo: Never thought of it that way, though I like to cook. It's a passion that goes hand-in-hand with my liking for wine (which agxo and bods are helping me expand) and cigars (bods, I think you ought to open a thread on cigars, pipes and single malts!!! call it the tinder box!). I do not have fine taste rather, I have acquired things purposely as I go through life. MASI, is an open secret ! It's a brand of an Italian racing bike frame named after the the builder,Maximilliano Masi, which I owned before I took up a different sport. There is also a wine label known as Masi. Good thing you tagged me with the gourmand and not the fashion consultant!!!!! :sick: But, I would rather be my own. Hmmm, seems like you are an experienced profiler? Metrosexuals?!!! Please, no branding. As far as I know, the love for wine drives this thread and we are all here to share experiences, from green apple to wine expert. We chose to drink wine more than beer, albeit we, well I, could still drink it. Edited July 12, 2005 by masi Quote Link to comment
pinoy_strigoi Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Another thing that is NOT on a bottle of wine. - Best consumed by (your name here) Quote Link to comment
pinoy_strigoi Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Uy kailan na ang WEB? (Whisky eyeball or wine eyeball). This week ba? Kahit anong W pwede. Wine, Whisky, or Women or all! All intoxicating, all heady, and all very good. Sexual puns niot intended. Quote Link to comment
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