agxo3 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 I came across this article on palate profile. I really helps wine afficionados this part of the globe who are not accustomed to berries and other fruits from the west. It as make appreciation easier... Palate profiles are frequently used by our winemakers to depict visually the nature of the wine that they are trying to achieve during the final blending of barrels prior to bottling; or to illustrate the differences that exist between wines of the same variety grown in different vineyards or regions. The concept is simple and highly effective: without use of emotive or descriptive words, the winemakers simply graph the intensity of flavour as they taste the wine on initial impact ('front palate'); as it fills the mouth ('mid palate'); and as they spit - or, in polite company, swallow the wine ('back palate'). From there, they then trace the intensity of the wine as it gradually fades away in the after taste, or 'finish'. The results are remarkable in that, without fuss, fine words or fanfare, the nature of a wine is revealed to the observer. This can then be used by wine professionals as a 'ready reckoner' through which to gauge their needs, contrasting the palate profile of the wine against the style of food they are serving.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sounds like a really interesting approach, and sounds likeit would be a more universal language for wine. Where'd you see the article? Can you post a link to it? Quote Link to comment
agxo3 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 Wine is often described using words we know from other tastes and smells.This is because wine is made of chemical compounds similar to those found in fruits, vegetables and spices. Different grapes are associated with different aromas/tastes of different compounds.The following is a wine flavor profile of common grape varieties. I have purposely omitted those fruits which are not familiar to us here: White Grapes:Chardonnay - butter, melon, apple, pineapple, vanilla (if oaked)Sauvignon blanc - asparagusSemillon - honey, orange, limeRiesling - citrus fruits, honeyGewurtztraminer - lychees, spiceViognier - peaches, pear Red Grapes:Cabernet Sauvignon - chocolate, mint, tobaccoPinot Noir - cherry, raspberryZinfandel - mint, mixed spices, black cherryShiraz - tobacco, pepperGrenache - smoky, pepperTempranillo - vanilla, strawberry, tobaccoSangiovese - herbs, leathery, earthyMerlot - plums, pepper, coffeeCabernet franc - tobacco, grass<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Great summary bods! But can you post the full set of flavors? Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 Same here - it took a while for me to get over the "what's cheap that I can get drunk with?" syndrome. Famous quote (and I can't remember who said it!! Anyone know?) - "Life is too short to drink bad wine". Now that I'm over the "cheap is good" phase of my life, I am now drinking wht I can fit into my budget and buying less to get better quality. I'm fiding that I get mroe enjoyment from good wine in less quantities than from bad wine in copious amounts. I also discovered that "class" has little to do with wine except for those who are just plain trying hard to impress and are highly impressionable. Does this sound like I'm finally maturing? I hope so! It's about time! So - what are your favorites? Post your tasting notes, your favorites, your latest great buys! Makes bods green with envy.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> so pagtutulungan nyo pa pala ako!yes..."class"...if you would notice those who are so into wine couldn't care less if they impress or not...they just drink away..they also try to stay away from those they know who are only trying to impress by drinking wine...but they do try to help out those who they think are serious enough to know more about wine...cheers! and stop giving private5star some ideas on how to make me green Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 I came across this article on palate profile. I really helps wine afficionados this part of the globe who are not accustomed to berries and other fruits from the west. It as make appreciation easier... Palate profiles are frequently used by our winemakers to depict visually the nature of the wine that they are trying to achieve during the final blending of barrels prior to bottling; or to illustrate the differences that exist between wines of the same variety grown in different vineyards or regions. The concept is simple and highly effective: without use of emotive or descriptive words, the winemakers simply graph the intensity of flavour as they taste the wine on initial impact ('front palate'); as it fills the mouth ('mid palate'); and as they spit - or, in polite company, swallow the wine ('back palate'). From there, they then trace the intensity of the wine as it gradually fades away in the after taste, or 'finish'. The results are remarkable in that, without fuss, fine words or fanfare, the nature of a wine is revealed to the observer. This can then be used by wine professionals as a 'ready reckoner' through which to gauge their needs, contrasting the palate profile of the wine against the style of food they are serving.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> is this approach being used now, pare? I deduce by wine professionals, they might mean sommeliers, as they are trying to match it up with food... Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted March 4, 2005 Author Share Posted March 4, 2005 Great summary bods! But can you post the full set of flavors?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> there's not much I omitted, pare, but here are the others:Sauvinon blanc - gooseberriesGewurtztraminer - rose petalsViognier - nutmeg, apricotChenin blanc - wet wool, beeswax, almondMarsanne - honeysuckle, marzipan Pinot noir - raspberry, violetsZinfandel - black cherryShiraz - blackberryGrenache - raspberry'Sangiovese - black cherryMerlot - black cherryCabernet franc - raspberryCabernet sauvignon - blackcurrants Quote Link to comment
agxo3 Posted March 4, 2005 Share Posted March 4, 2005 there's not much I omitted, pare, but here are the others:Sauvinon blanc - gooseberriesGewurtztraminer - rose petalsViognier - nutmeg, apricotChenin blanc - wet wool, beeswax, almondMarsanne - honeysuckle, marzipan Pinot noir - raspberry, violetsZinfandel - black cherryShiraz - blackberryGrenache - raspberry'Sangiovese - black cherryMerlot - black cherryCabernet franc - raspberryCabernet sauvignon - blackcurrants<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks - hey is there some way to pin this at the beginning of the thread so it's easy to find? Quote Link to comment
masi Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 http://www.rosemountestates.com/wine/range...rve/shiraz.html Sounds like a really interesting approach, and sounds likeit would be a more universal language for wine. Where'd you see the article? Can you post a link to it?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment
heavygatin_but_cutie Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 hmmm...so interesting to see the exchanges here about wine....too bad i cant share any thoughts...whew!!! i cant consume anything with alcohol eh..i have allergies..nevertheless..this thread is very informative..keep the exchanges... by the way, will you guys invite me to your wine tasting event? hmmm ok for me not to taste...just be in the event and see how it goes... hehehehe hi bods...hi masi... Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted March 5, 2005 Author Share Posted March 5, 2005 Thanks - hey is there some way to pin this at the beginning of the thread so it's easy to find?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> ...dunno how to pin but that's a good idea! Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted March 5, 2005 Author Share Posted March 5, 2005 hmmm...so interesting to see the exchanges here about wine....too bad i cant share any thoughts...whew!!! i cant consume anything with alcohol eh..i have allergies..nevertheless..this thread is very informative..keep the exchanges... by the way, will you guys invite me to your wine tasting event? hmmm ok for me not to taste...just be in the event and see how it goes... hehehehe hi bods...hi masi...<{POST_SNAPBACK}> hi! nice to see you here...we really do need some ladies around here By all means, yes...the thing is wala pang natutuloy sa mga balak naming EB...pag meron, you're in, ok? too bad you can't imbibe, but just imbibe the atmosphere na lang here...read on! Quote Link to comment
Guest PinkGraffiti Posted March 5, 2005 Share Posted March 5, 2005 i dont really drink dat much coz i easily get drunk. isang bottle pa nga lang ng SanMig Light, kamatis na buong mukha ko.. di ko mapigilang masuka. but for the sake of an important event, i drink at times. pero mas okay sana kung wine kasi hindi naman lahat mataas ang alcohol content. hanggang mild ladies drink lang ata ang kaya ng katawan ko.. Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted March 5, 2005 Author Share Posted March 5, 2005 i dont really drink dat much coz i easily get drunk. isang bottle pa nga lang ng SanMig Light, kamatis na buong mukha ko.. di ko mapigilang masuka. but for the sake of an important event, i drink at times. pero mas okay sana kung wine kasi hindi naman lahat mataas ang alcohol content. hanggang mild ladies drink lang ata ang kaya ng katawan ko..<{POST_SNAPBACK}> hi!well I think beer has about 5% alco content while wine ranges from 12% to 16%, so higher alcohol content ang wine - better think twice But you see, as compared with beer, wine has is supposedly more beneficial to health. Aside from having more calories, I have an uncle who used to work for 25 years in San Miguel and he said that the sugar content in a bottle of beer is the equivalent of 5 tablespoons So nung nag-retire siya he found out that he is diabetic - he cannot drink beer anymore - puro spirits na lang... And I daresay, misnomer yang sinasabi mong ladies drink ang wine hehehe.....pwede kang tumumba dito sa wine, or barring that, you get more libidinous ooopss hehehe... cheers!would you want to join any future wine EB's? (read: fishing, fishing hehehe) Quote Link to comment
Raintribe Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Hola! CCL and I just got off the phone and he says that he will put together a despedida for me. I leave for Iceland soon. Can we have a "cheap wine" despedida. Take it as a challeng really. How about we all bring bottles of wine for P150 or less. The trick is to find drinkable wine of that price range. I'm sure there should be a few. We ought to pair this with good food? To prove that your wine costs that much only..you should not tear off the price sticker or the receipt. Game? Please.... Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted March 6, 2005 Author Share Posted March 6, 2005 Hola! CCL and I just got off the phone and he says that he will put together a despedida for me. I leave for Iceland soon. Can we have a "cheap wine" despedida. Take it as a challeng really. How about we all bring bottles of wine for P150 or less. The trick is to find drinkable wine of that price range. I'm sure there should be a few. We ought to pair this with good food? To prove that your wine costs that much only..you should not tear off the price sticker or the receipt. Game? Please....<{POST_SNAPBACK}> uhhm I doubt you could get a tolerable wine for P150... the drinkable ones start at P300.... have a nice trip, ms. rain Quote Link to comment
cebucitylocal Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 uhhm I doubt you could get a tolerable wine for P150... the drinkable ones start at P300.... have a nice trip, ms. rain <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hi RaintribeWell I am ready with my chinese wines Seriously Bods,you can get a drinkable chilean wine for about one hundred pesos.Bulgarian is also not too bad also.Game ako.I will provide a venue and matching foods like Magnolia cheese ,Tastee bread,tinapa :upside: .Seriously Real matching foods Quote Link to comment
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