hobby Dog Lovers Thread

[preacher]

I have a female Chow-chow champ line and a Boston Terrier. My wife wants to get a Shihtsu and a Jack Russels terrier. PM naman ng contact kung sino may binebenta. Tnx!

[juanito_boy]

chiuaua ayaw mo??

[Flash Sentry]

Anyone here selling Doverman or German Shepherd pups? Preferably less than 3 months. Okay lang without papers. I'm not after show types, just a dog I can bond and walk around with.

[razrramon]

anyone here familiar with the parvo virus? my gf's collie terrier mix was victimized by this virus. she took it pretty hard. want to know how to prevent such. and is anyone selling any puppies?

[dj_flip03]

Can somebody help me too?

 

I just bought a Beagle pup (2mos old) and her stool is soft/wet and has a lil blood with it. What is wrong with her?

[MasterM]

anyone here familiar with the parvo virus? my gf's collie terrier mix was victimized by this virus. she took it pretty hard. want to know how to prevent such. and is anyone selling any puppies?

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my rottweiler suffer the same faith before, buti na lang nabuhay.

 

have your dog vaccinated n give the dog vitamins.

[MasterM]

Can somebody help me too? 

 

I just bought a Beagle pup (2mos old) and her stool is soft/wet and has a lil blood with it.  What is wrong with her? 

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take your dog to the vet ASAP, to have the stool examine.

[Neo34]

anyone here familiar with the parvo virus? my gf's collie terrier mix was victimized by this virus. she took it pretty hard. want to know how to prevent such. and is anyone selling any puppies?

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you may bring your gf's dog to the nearest vet. if you can't afford a vet or have no time to visit one, you may try the following steps:

 

STEPS TO TAKE:

o If you have confirmed that your puppy has one (or more) of these diseases, you must keep the pup indoors at all times - and I would recommend that it be the bathroom or the kitchen, as most likely the floors are tiled or made of linoleum - and, since your puppy will be vomiting and defecating profusely, you want to be able to clean it quickly and completely. Yes, it will be smelly and disgusting, but the smell will go away - death, however, will not - so clarify your values. If your puppy has parvo, and you leave it outside, especially at night when it cools down, I assure you it will die.

o Once you've found the appropriate spot in the house in which to keep the pup, make sure that the temperature is comfortable: not too cool nor too warm - comfortable. It is then imperative that you obtain the following supplies:

o At least 4 Bags of Lactated Ringers (IV fluids) plus the catheter set ups and needles. YOU WILL NOT BE RUNNING THESE FLUIDS IN YOUR DOG IV (INTRAVENEOUSLY), BUT SUB-Q [sUBCUTANEOUSLY (UNDER THE SKIN)]. a) Ask your vet to provide you with the ringers. If your vet will not, he is a money-grubber, and I would advise you to go to another vet. In fact, I would clearly establish with your vet whether or not he or she would provide you with such supplies before it ever becomes necessary. Don't wait until there is a life-threatening emergency before you find out that your vet won't help you. When you first get your pup ask your vet straight-up "If my dog ever caught parvo, and I couldn't afford the treatment, would you supply me with fluids?" If your vet says no, find a new vet. If you can get the ringers, try to keep a supply on hand before such an emergency. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." If you are in an emergency situation, or if you can't find a vet who will say "Yes" to the above question, ask yourself if you know anyone in the nursing or medical profession, either as suppliers or as administrators. Try to get the fluids in this way. But you need to get the fluids.

o The next step is to get 4 Bottles of Pedialyte. You can obtain this at any supermarket or drugstore. Pedialyte is a fluid/electrolyte replacement drink for babies who have had chronic diarrhea and vomiting, and it is absolutely essential to the recovery of your pup. This is another good item always to have on hand.

o Get a Bottle of Immodium AD, or any other anti-diarrhea medication.

o Get an anti-nausea medication.

o Get a Bottle of Injectable Penicillin. You can get this at a feed store or order through a catalogue [see my Save Money Tips]. You should always have a bottle of penicillin on hand.

o Get a 5cc or a 10 cc syringe. Always have these on hand.

o Get a box of 100 3cc syringes. Always have these on hand.

o Buy a box of 100, 1" long, 22 gauge Needles. Always have these on hand.

o Buy some cotton balls (or gauze pads).

o Buy a bottle of Betadine, or some other topical disinfectant.

o Buy some Nutri-Cal, or some other calorie-replacement supplement at your pet or feed store.

o Buy some White Rice.

o Buy (or make) some Chicken Broth.

 

HOW TO USE THIS STUFF

o Immediately administer about 50 ccs of Ringers, per 10 lb. of body weight, subcutaneously (under the skin) of your pup. DO THIS EVERY TWO HOURS UNTIL YOUR PUP IS BETTER. Make sure the Ringers are body temperature. You do not want either to chill, or to overheat, your pup. Remember: BODY TEMPERATURE!

o Make sure you have installed the catheter to the bag of fluids properly, and that all of the air bubbles have been washed out of the tubing. Give it a test to see if it works. When you're sure it does, use a cotton ball and some Betadine to disinfect the puppy's skin, and then insert the needle you've placed at the end of the catheter tube under the puppy's skin. [You do not stick the needle directly into the puppy's back, or stick it in his spine. You simply lift the puppy's skin with the fingers of one hand, and then gently push the needle just under the surface of the skin with the other at an angle]. Start at the base of your puppy's neck, to the left of the spine, and administer the appropriate amount of fluids into your pup by releasing the valve on the catheter at full tilt. When the appropriate amount of fluids has gone into your pup, withdraw the needle and again disinfect the skin - and also pinch the hole left by the needle for a few seconds so the fluids don't run back out of the pup. (There will be a large swelling under the puppy's skin which will be about gone, absorbed into the pup, by the time the two hours are up, and his next administration is due.) [Remember to insert the needle subcutaneously (or sub-q for short)]. NOTE: If your puppy has been vomiting and or has had profuse diarrhea prior to his first administration of fluids, give him twice the recommended amount on his first dose, and then go back to the recommended amount for his next dose two hours later. IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS UNDERSTANDING ANY OF THIS, CONSULT A VETERINARIAN FOR ADVICE BEFORE YOU WORK ON YOUR PUP.

o Continue to give your pup the recommended dose, every two hours, until your puppy has recovered. With each administration of fluids, you should insert the needle about an inch lower than where you put it in the last time, but on the other side of the spine, alternating sides with each dosage - until you get close to being 3 inches from the puppy's tail. On the next dosage, go back up to the level of the base of your puppy's neck, but start on the opposite side of the spine from where you first began. Follow this same procedure, every two hours, until your puppy is better. Again, each dosage is under the skin.

o After you administer the first dose of ringers, it is time to use the Pedialyte. Take your 5 or 10 cc syringe (no needle, just the syringe) and withdraw pedialyte into it. You want to give the pup 5ccs of Pedialyte, per 10 lb. of body weight, every 2 hr., orally (in his mouth) right after you run the fluids under his skin. Sit the puppy down between your legs, with his back to you, and then tilt his head back so he's looking up. Put the syringe in his mouth (again, without a needle) and gradually disperse the appropriate amount of Pedialyte, until it's swallowed. Be careful of gagging or choking the pup. If your puppy vomits the Pedialyte back out, withdraw some more out of the bottle and put some more right back in the pup's mouth, until he keeps the proper amount down. Yes it can be messy, but it is absolutely essential to his life that he retain fluids. Sometimes you can just pour Pedialyte into a bowl and let the pup lap it up to his heart's content. Remember, if he throws it up, he doesn't have it in him, so you've got to withdraw more and put it back, until he keeps it down. Do this every two hours until your pup is better.

o Give your pup ½ cc of Nutri-Cal (per 10 lb. of body weight), orally, every two hours after his dose of Pedialyte. This will give your pup some rich nutrients that, believe me, he really is going to need.

o Give your pup ¼ cc of Immodium AD anti-diarrhea orally, per 10 lb. of body weight (using a 3cc syringe without a needle), every other two hours, right after you've given him his oral dose of Nutri-Cal. Again, if he throws it up, put it back in. Sometimes, however, this can irritate the dog's stomach. If you notice your pup keeps down the Pedialyte, but vomits right after you give him the Immodium AD, then you should probably forget about using the Immodium. It is much more critical that your dog get the fluids and nutrients, so if your dog reacts to the Immodium (or Pepto Bismol, or whatever), stop using it.

o Give your pup ¼ cc anti-nausea medication, right after, and in exactly the same way, as with the above. Again, if your pup seems to be reacting to this too, forget about using it, and just concentrate on the fluids - the fluids are the most important part.

o Give your pup a shot of penicillin. ONLY GIVE THIS SHOT EVERY OTHER DAY. Use your 3 cc syringe, with the 1", 22-gauge needle, and withdraw ½ cc of penicillin into the syringe (for every 10 lb. of body weight). Point the needle upwards and flick your finger against the syringe so that all of the air bubbles go to the top. Depress the plunger of the syringe, with the needle still pointed upward, until all of the air has been removed. Then deliver an intra-muscular injection. To do this, disinfect the skin of the meaty portion of one of the pup's rear legs, and insert the needle just to the rear of the center of the meatiest part. (There is a large nerve that runs down the centerline, and you want to avoid damaging this nerve - ASK YOUR VET IF YOU ARE UNSURE AS TO WHAT YOU ARE DOING). Push the needle in about half-way and depress the plunger all the way to deliver the penicillin. The penicillin does not harm the parvovirus (or corona, coccidia, or whatever). What it does is prevent secondary infection. Again, only give the penicillin every other day, and switch back and forth between each of the pup's rear legs, with each injection, to allow healing. Vigorously rub a cotton ball with disinfectant over the injection site when you're done with each injection.

o Mix the cooked white rice with a little chicken broth and see if your pup will eat it. If he doesn't eat it, throw the rice away and make a new batch six hours later, and try again. Keep trying every six hours until the pup begins to nibble at it. NEVER GIVE UP ON YOUR PUP UNTIL IT EITHER DIES OR EATS. KEEP TRYING AND DON'T LOSE HOPE. SPEAK KINDLY AND LOVINGLY TO YOUR PUP, AND STAY WITH HIM AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE TO GIVE HIM MORAL SUPPORT. [Remember when you were a child, how much better it felt to have your parent(s) close to you when you were sick? Your puppy's spirits are raised too when you're around to comfort him. NEVER underestimate the power of LOVE in healing the very sick...]

o IF YOUR PUP BEGINS TO EAT YOU'VE MADE IT. Do not feed your pup his regular meal at this point, as his stomach lining is much too sensitive to tolerate it, but you can add some Nutri-Cal to the rice and chicken broth. Feeding the pup rice will do two things: 1) it will give him some nutrition, and 2) it will begin to firm-up his stool. As the pup's stool begins to firm up, you can begin to add some of his regular kibble to the rice after about two days, gradually increasing the amount of kibble, until his stool is completely firm again, and his rice is completely replaced by his regular food.

[Olympus]

I'm happy with my two adorable basset hounds

[Flash Sentry]

you may bring your gf's dog to the nearest vet. if you can't afford a vet or have no time to visit one, you may try the following steps:

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Interesting that a vet (ironically) does not recommend to have the dog given intravenous liquid for parvo, as his observation says it is more likely to cause the puppy to die than to let the disease run its course: http://forum.dog-tracker.com/YaBB.cgi?boar...;num=1125041562 I will post one of his observations here:

 

give injectable fluids to a parvo case and the diarrhea worsens. The dog would pass out fluid stool almost immediately after you take it off the fluids, sometimes even during the fluid therapy.

 

Other veterinarians and dog owners will simply attribute such diarrhea to the disease, but it's not so. I had several cases where owners are not willing to spend for fluid therapy, and I also had similar experience with my own pups, that if no injectable fluids are given, the pup recovers within 2 days, many within one day. (Pups given fluids take a minimum of 5 days to recover, all the time passing out fluid stool.)

 

Possible mechanism: IV dextrose is known to cause fever if given to normal dogs. Fever is a prostaglandin mechanism. Diarrhea in viral enteritis is also a prostaglandin mechanism. Thus, diarrhea is worsened by injectable fluids, particularly if these contain dextrose.

 

Ever since I avoided giving injectable fluids to parvo cases, mortality observed has decreased, I would say, to about only 20%. Deaths and recoveries are seen within a couple of days.

 

Of course, some may argue that the deaths might have been prevented by giving fluids, but observations do not bear this out. A lot more deaths are observed if fluids are injected. That's why you still hear a lot of veterinarians thinking that parvo is a high mortality disease -- because they still keep injecting fluids. To me, parvo is not that fatal. But show me a case where fluids are injected, and I could assure you that animal will not recover within 5 days, suffer diarrhea in that period, and may even die.

 

This, of course, goes against the norm, and many veterinarians have belittled me for bringing this up. But the observations are consistent. If only other veterinarians would dare to observe what happens if no fluids are injected.

 

I recall there were similar threads about this in the past, and several members of this board also observed what I did when their pups came down with parvo and they did not get fluids injected.

 

And just to clarify: Fluids are needed and can be helpful, but they should be given orally, and NOT by injection. (If the dog vomits it out, then it's a sign that the body could not take it at the moment. Try later, and/or give smaller amounts at a time.)

[razrramon]

thanks everyone for all the info. sadly our pup just died and it's breaking everyone's heart. i can't talk with my gf right now, coz she just took it pretty hard. if only i have seen this thread before. thanks again! hey guys let me know if you have pups for sale. thanks!

[Flash Sentry]

Finally bought an 8 week old male Doberman puppy which I promptly named Kenshin. First time to have a Dob, so any advice here on how to handle him? He already got his first shots.

[razrramon]

hey lord zagato; my advise is to keep him away from other dogs feces until he is at least 6mos. to keep him safe from parvo, it was very traumatic for me and everyone in my family. good luck!

[3some]

i have a 3y/o dalmatian, regalo nun wedding namin ni misis and i bought us a golden retriever a year after... ngayon hanap po me ng female dalmatian and/or golden retriever kasi matagal ng ready for stud mga alaga ko... i am not asking for financial payment or whatsoever, except for a female puppy (just one) upon birth of "that girl dog"... any takers!?! thanks....

[BlackWizard]

I had a Malamute that died last year because of heat...

[Flash Sentry]

i have a 3y/o dalmatian, regalo nun wedding namin ni misis and i bought us a golden retriever a year after... ngayon hanap po me ng female dalmatian and/or golden retriever kasi matagal ng ready for stud mga alaga ko... i am not asking for financial payment or whatsoever, except for a female puppy (just one) upon birth of "that girl dog"... any takers!?! thanks....

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Where you from? I have a female Dalmatian that's never been "taken". I'm from Paranaque.

[The Humps]

mga dudes , baka me alam kayo stud ng pitbull help me naman. showtype pitbull ko, sana pure breed ang mag stud and sana malapit lang here in sta ana manila. i prefer puppies ( pag nanganak na) as payment.

thanks....

[presentedby]

mga sir. pano ba kumha ng papers for ur dog? tagal at magastos na proseso ba po ito? ty

[Flash Sentry]

mga dudes , baka me alam kayo stud ng pitbull help me naman. showtype pitbull ko, sana pure breed ang mag stud and sana malapit lang here in sta ana manila. i prefer puppies ( pag nanganak na) as payment.

thanks....

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Actually, neighbor ko may stud pitbull. Just PM me your place.

[TodoBigay]

i have 2.

1 standard female Poodle "Shanti"

1 miniature male Poodle "Rocket"

both are black.

 

always been a Poodle lover, grew up around Poodles, but I ain't 1. hehehe

[pitbull69]

mga sir. pano ba kumha ng papers for ur dog? tagal at magastos na proseso ba po ito? ty

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anong aso ba yung palalagyan mo ng papers? dapat yung mga magulang nya eh may papers rin para malaman yung lineage nya, pure bred lang. sa PCCI kumukuha ng papers ng aso.

 

www.pccionline.org

[Flash Sentry]

Kenshin, my Doberman pup I got last week. He's 8 weeks old (going nine):

[pedrupenduku]

sino may alam sa inyo na binibenta rottweiler? magkano ba ang cheapest nun? kahit walang papers basta pure breed... balak ko kasing bumili and hindi ko alam kung magkano ang dapat na budget for that... please help... thanks..

[Flash Sentry]

sino may alam sa inyo na binibenta rottweiler? magkano ba ang cheapest nun? kahit walang papers basta pure breed... balak ko kasing bumili and hindi ko alam kung magkano ang dapat na budget for that... please help... thanks.. 

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http://forum.dog-tracker.com/YaBB.cgi?board=Rottweiler Yan, dami dyan nagbebenta ng Rot pups. Ayaw mo Dob?

Edited May 28, 2006 by Lord Zagato

[pedrupenduku]

http://forum.dog-tracker.com/YaBB.cgi?board=Rottweiler Yan, dami dyan nagbebenta ng Rot pups. Ayaw mo Dob?

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tnx dude, i'll check it out; mas prefer ko kasi ang rottie mas mascular ang katawan...maganda rin ang dobberman...alin ba ang mas mura?