sundaramahalingam Posted February 19, 2004 Share Posted February 19, 2004 huwag i shutdown ang extruder kung tails lang ang problema!!!!baka hindi mag start ulit gaya kagabi!!!!don't kick the sleeping dog( wika nga ni papa!!!!) Quote Link to comment
salvo Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 I cant stand my work anymore Quote Link to comment
Macy Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 NO NEED TO WAITJames McReynolds We need not wait to be robbed before we decide to be generous to others.We need not wait to be slaves before we decide to bear the burdens of others.We need not wait to be insulted before we decide to love or to hate others.We need not wait until we are treated the way we want, to be that way to others.Nor need we wait for a spark of love to freely choose the way of love for all others.Neither will God wait for us to choose before He freely chooses to love us. Quote Link to comment
Macy Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 (edited) SCIENCE vs GOD "LET ME EXPLAIN THE problem Science has with Jesus Christ." The atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand."You're a Christian, aren't you, son?""Yes, sir.""So you believe in God?""Absolutely.""Is God good?""Sure! God's good.""Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?""Yes.""Are you good or evil?""The Bible says I'm evil." The professor grins knowingly. "Ahh! THE BIBLE!" He considers for a moment."Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help them? Would you try?""Yes, sir, I would.""So you're good...!""I wouldn't say that.""Why not say that? You would help a sick and maimed person if you could...in fact most of us would if we could...God doesn't."[No answer.]"He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer even though he prayed to Jesus to help him. How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?"[No answer.]The elderly man is sympathetic. "No, you can't, can you?" He takes sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax. In philosophy, you have to go easy with the new ones. "Let's start again, young fella.""Is God good?""Er... Yes.""Is Satan good?""No.""Where does Satan come from?"The student falters. "From... God...""That's right. God made Satan, didn't he?" The elderly man runs his bony fingers through his thinning hair and turns to the smirking, student audience. "I think we're going to have a lot of fun this semester, ladies and gentlemen." He turns back to the Christian."Tell me! , son. Is there evil in this world?""Yes, sir.""Evil's everywhere, isn't it? Did God make everything?""Yes.""Who created evil?"[No answer.]"Is there sickness in this world? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All the terrible things - do they exist in this world?"The student squirms on his feet. "Yes.""Who created them?"[No answer.]The professor suddenly shouts at his student. "WHO CREATED THEM? TELL ME, PLEASE! The professor closes in for the k*ll and climbs into the Christian's face. In a still small voice: "God created all evil, didn't He, son?"[No answer.]The student tries to hold the steady, experienced gaze and fails. Suddenly, the lecturer breaks away to pace the front of the classroom like an aging panther. The class is mesmerized. "Tell me," he continues, "How is it that this God is good if He created all evil through all time?" The professor swishes his arms around to encompass the wickedness of the world. "All the hatred, the brutality, all the pain, all the torture, all the death and ugliness and all the suffering created by this good God is all over the world, isn't it, young man?"[No answer.]"Don't you see it all over the place? Huh?"[Pause.]"Don't you?" The professor leans into the student's face again and whispers, "Is God good?"[No answer.]"Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?"The student's voice betrays him and cracks. "Yes, professor. I do."The old man shakes his head sadly. "Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you?""No, sir. I've never seen Him.""Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?""No, sir. I have not.""Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus... in fact, do you have any sensory perception of your God whatsoever?"[No answer.]"Answer me, please.""No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't.""You're AFRAID... you haven't?""No, sir.""Yet you still ! believe in him?""...yes...""That takes FAITH!" The professor smiles sagely at the underling. "According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son? Where is your God now?"[The student doesn't answer.]"Sit down, please."[The Christian sits....defeated.]Another Christian raises his hand. "Professor, may I address the class?" The professor turns and smiles. "Ah, another Christian in the vanguard! Come, come, young man. Speak some proper wisdom to the gathering." The Christian looks around the room. "Some interesting points you are making, sir. Now I've got a question for you. Is there such thing as heat?""Yes," the professor replies. "There's heat.""Is there such a thing as cold?""Yes, son, there's cold too.""No, sir, there isn't." The professor's grin freezes. The room suddenly goes very cold. The second Christian continues. "You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We hit 458 degrees below zero, which is not heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold, otherwise we would be able to go colder than 458 degrees. - You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. WE cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not! the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it." [silence. A pin drops somewhere in the classroom.] "Is there such a thing as darkness, professor?" "That's a dumb question, son. What is night if it isn't darkness? What are you getting at...?" (the professor starting to be impatient)"So you say there is such a thing as darkness?""Yes...""You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something, it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word. In reality. Darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker and give me a jar of it. Can you...give me a jar of darker darkness, professor?" Despite himself, the professor smiles at the young effrontery before him. This will indeed be a good semester. "Would you mind telling us what your point is, young man?""Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with and so your conclusion must be in error...."The professor goes toxic. "Flawed...? How dare you...!""Sir, may I explain what I mean?" The class is all ears."Explain... oh, explain..." The professor makes an admirable effort to regain control. Suddenly he is affability itself. He waves his hand to silence the class, for the student to continue. "You are working on the premise of duality," the Christian explains. "That for example there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science cannot even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism but has never see, much less fully understood them. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, merely the absence of it."The young man hold up a newspaper he takes from the desk of a neighbor who has been reading it. "Here is one of the most disgusting tabloids this country hosts, professor. Is there such a thing as immorality?""Of course there is, now look...""Wrong again, sir. You see, immorality is merely the absence of morality. Is there such thing as injustice? No. Injustice is the absence of justice. Is there such a thing as evil?" The Christian pauses. "Isn't evil the absence of good?" The professor's face has turned an alarming color. He is so angry he is temporarily speechless.  The Christian continues. "If there is evil in the world, professor, and we all agree there is, then God, if he exists, must be accomplishing a work through the agency of evil. What is that work God is accomplishing? The Bible tells us it is to see if each one of us will, of our own free will, choose good over evil." The professor bridles. "As a philosophical scientist, I don't view this matter as having anything to do with any choice; as a realist, I absolutely do not recognize the concept of God or any other theological factor as being part of the world equation because God is not observable.""I would have thought that the absence of God's moral code in this world is probably one of the most observable phenomena going," the Christian replies."Newspapers make billions of dollars reporting it every week! Tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?""If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do.""Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?"The professor makes a sucking sound with his teeth and gives his student a silent, stony stare."Professor. Since no-one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a priest?""I'll overlook your impudence in the light of our philosophical discussion. Now, have you quite finished?" the professor hisses."So you don't accept God's moral code to do what is righteous?""I believe in what is - that's science!""Ahh! SCIENCE!" the student's face splits into a grin. "Sir, you rightly state that science is the study of observed phenomena. Science too is a premise which is flawed...""SCIENCE IS FLAWED...?" The professor splutters.The class is in uproar.The Christian remains standing until the commotion has subsided. "To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, may I give you and example of what I mean?"The professor wisely keeps silent.The Christian looks around the room. "Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's brain?"The class breaks out in laughter.The Christian points towards his elderly, crumbling tutor. "Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain... felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain?"No one appears to have done so.The Christian shakes his head sadly. "It appears no-one here has had any sensory perception of the professor's brain whatsoever. Well, according to the rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science, I DECLARE that the professor has no brain."The class is in chaos. The Christian sits... Because that is what a chair is for.********************************************************************When God created the heaven and the earth, the land and sea, animals, day and night, man and woman, and so many other things, the Bible ended with this same statement - And God saw that it was good (NIV)."God saw all that He had made and it was very good." (Gen 1:31 NIV)The choice of evil was made by man. Edited February 20, 2004 by Macy Quote Link to comment
lord_rochester Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 lately? that rumors are just that, rumors. i trust him and i believe in him. wish the rumors would stop though. i love him. that's all that matters. we are what we are. and we're happy now. Quote Link to comment
Z Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 (edited) Hey Macy! Mind if you post that in Dimension Z? What have I learned recently? Its a jumble of thoughts but I'll give it a go... It's not the number of posts but the content of what you say;not who you know but who you are;not what you know but how you are;not just what you say but what you do;not about falling but getting up again; not about failing but never giving up;not about perfection but living in excellence;not about being right but being forgiving and accepting; It's about being alone with each other;about being afraid yet choosing to love;about finding ourselves in everyone else;about being a mirror to and with everyone else;All about being perfect in our imperfection in living our lives. Just my thoughts Edited February 20, 2004 by Z Quote Link to comment
Chi-Chi Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004  wag kang mashadong mabait sa coworkers mo dahil babackstab ka nila afterwards! Quote Link to comment
pedro hilaga Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 i've learned that no matter how tough or independent a woman projects herself to be, she still has a craving to be loved, respected, and appreciated. Quote Link to comment
Zerreit Posted February 20, 2004 Share Posted February 20, 2004 That women can be very very very vicious. :evil: Quote Link to comment
Optimus_Prime Posted February 20, 2004 Author Share Posted February 20, 2004 I cant stand my work anymore Just curious ano work mo? Quote Link to comment
spot Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 this week, i learned that...........Dont push yourself beyond the limits of your sensibilities..... :heart: Quote Link to comment
bel Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 ...that you should never expect someone to change for you. to hope that he would change is a different matter altogether. ...that you shouldnt be too idealistic to think that maybe this time, things would be different, that maybe because of you, he would be better....that when you enter a relationship, you should always remember that above everything else, you're friends.... na baka there's no such thing as changing because we cant change who we are... then how do we grow up? Quote Link to comment
pedro hilaga Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 i just validated again something i learned some years ago: that there are no intimidating women, only intimidated men. Quote Link to comment
irshes Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 That women can be very very very vicious. :evil: ... especially when someone's messing with their friends. Quote Link to comment
irshes Posted February 22, 2004 Share Posted February 22, 2004 I have learned that trust should be earned, not freely given. "There's nothing more humiliating than finding the object of your love unworthy." Quote Link to comment
DELISYUS Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 ... especially when someone's messing with their friends. especially if they've been made to appear as LIARSÂ in front of their friends Quote Link to comment
Zerreit Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 That men flirt blatantly and if they tell you it is just harmless flirting, it is not. There is no such thing. Quote Link to comment
irshes Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 That men flirt blatantly and if they tell you it is just harmless flirting, it is not. There is no such thing. And so I've learned that blind trust is bad. Quote Link to comment
bogusmobile Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 that sometimes saying you're taken isn't enough of a deterrent Quote Link to comment
maximusmeridius Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 i've learned to be less agrressive, and be more patient, although i don't know why and for what reason Quote Link to comment
gurltalker Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 LOVE is a Choice... ------------------------- Quote Link to comment
Z Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Life is a matter of preference Quote Link to comment
gate_crasher Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 ako ntutunan ko kung paano umibig ng lubusan nsaktan pti narin napahiya pero naisip ko na marami nman isda sa dagat malalaki at mas magaganda pa minsan lang ako nadapa pro di mna mauulit yun Quote Link to comment
salvo Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 I learn that you need to accept the fact kahit masakit Quote Link to comment
Zerreit Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 That the truth will always come out and that friendship matters above all. Quote Link to comment
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