Larry Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 fedor? the best heavyweight? too damn overrated! list down all fedors opponent and list down randy's... by that you'll know who is the best between them! you cant be the best if you dont fight the best... I take it you haven't seen fedor fight? sino ba ang matchmaker ng ufc, parang unfair yung lesnar vs mir... don't blame the matchmaker, blame Lesnar's manager for agreeing to it. if he thinks he's that good then why does he keep on dodging UFC's offer to fight randy? fedor fought a 100yo mark coleman! so what? he fought and beat cro cop(another overrated fighter), mark hunt who has the toughest chin ive seen so far but randy can alsostand toe to toe w/ these guys! if he is the best like some of you may say, why are he dodging the said contract? it's been said before, that Dana White would not let Fedor fight Sambo when he is tied to a UFC contract, plus many other things that led to fedor not signing with the UFC. and no Randy can't go toe to toe with these guys. Mino would tear his arm off. And as far as ducking is concerned I can say that Randy is ducking Mino, he can't get to Fedor without fighting Nog. And he knows Nog has got his number, if he really wanted to fight Noguiera he'd have gotten back with the UFC already, and defended his belt. Randy has nothing for Nog, and he knows it. Quote Link to comment
HansSolo Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 I take it you haven't seen fedor fight? it's been said before, that Dana White would not let Fedor fight Sambo when he is tied to a UFC contract, plus many other things that led to fedor not signing with the UFC. and no Randy can't go toe to toe with these guys. Mino would tear his arm off. And as far as ducking is concerned I can say that Randy is ducking Mino, he can't get to Fedor without fighting Nog. And he knows Nog has got his number, if he really wanted to fight Noguiera he'd have gotten back with the UFC already, and defended his belt. Randy has nothing for Nog, and he knows it. need i say more???? :upside: :upside: :upside: Quote Link to comment
the_joker Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 don't blame the matchmaker, blame Lesnar's manager for agreeing to it. NOPE!!! I understand their decision to fight frank mir, pag tinanggihan nila ang laban sasabihin nila TAKOT si lesnar at namimili ng kalaban... NO CHOICE si lesnar at manager but to accept the offer... Quote Link to comment
sting07 Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 match maker si DANA WHITE... yata Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 NO CHOICE si lesnar at manager but to accept the offer... not quite. Lesnar CAN choose who he wants to fight, he's probably the highest paid fighter in the UFC today, he's the biggest money draw at the moment which is evidenced by his co-main event status in his debut fight. Nobody has gotten that kind of push, and pre-fight hype in the UFC ever. If you can bring in the big bucks, you can choose your fights, or at least decline a potentially bad fight. match maker si DANA WHITE... yata UFC's matchmaker is Joe Silva. Dana White is UFC President. Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 I take it you haven't seen fedor fight? do you think i'll say all that w/o even seeing him fight? i had some pride fc cds here and baed on what i saw, randy can fight toe to toe w/ these guys! it's been said before, that Dana White would not let Fedor fight Sambo when he is tied to a UFC contract, plus many other things that led to fedor not signing with the UFC. and no Randy can't go toe to toe with these guys. Mino would tear his arm off. And as far as ducking is concerned I can say that Randy is ducking Mino, he can't get to Fedor without fighting Nog. And he knows Nog has got his number, if he really wanted to fight Noguiera he'd have gotten back with the UFC already, and defended his belt. Randy has nothing for Nog, and he knows it. yes thats the agreement! better watch this guy's thought about fedor! we have the same sentiments regarding fedor... http://youtube.com/watch?v=fQuwGXgmRLQ and about nog fighting randy? well i think randy thinks nog isnt worthit enough for his return... IMHO Quote Link to comment
HansSolo Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 when ur #1 u will get haters... c'mon let randy beat nog 1st b4 we even consider whos better right now between cap and fedor... i think randy opted not to fight nog bec he knows he cant beat nog,, its a bad match up for randy... he knows that he needs to go back to the gym and practice his submission defense... :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 i had some pride fc cds here and baed on what i saw, randy can fight toe to toe w/ these guys! no he can't he lost to two pride veterans already in Barnett and Ricco. this isn't a diss to Randy but facts are facts. and the truth is he can't beat Nog. He'd have a better chance of beating Fedor (although I really can't see that happening) than beating Nog. and about nog fighting randy? well i think randy thinks nog isnt worthit enough for his return... IMHO incorrect Randy needs to fight Nog to legitimize his claim to Fedor. if Sylvia had won over Nog then it follows that Randy is the contender to Fedor, since he already beat Sylvia. but he hasn't fought Nog, he can't step over Nogueira and say that he deserves Fedor when he hasn't fought Nog yet. If Tim had won then he can say that's ok I still get Fedor because I beat Tim already, but with Minotauro winning he can't say that he still gets Fedor legitimately because he hasn't fought Nog yet. also Randy and Nog both have wins over Sylvia Randy lost to Barnett and Ricco Rodriguez Nog won over Barnett and Ricco Rodriguez Stylistically Randy has nothing for Nog, he can't take him down because that's what Nog wants, GNP? Even Fedor couldn't knock Nog out with his GNP, Bob Sapp planted Nog's head to the mat a couple of times and Mino just kept on coming, Crocop dazed him but Nog still found a way. So randy can forget about knocking him out. What will happen is that Randy has a choice between getting subbed or getting subbed. Randy is ducking Nog, and that's not the champion's way. Quote Link to comment
archiexarchie Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 http://youtube.com/watch?v=-GUD9QsXcAM found this on youtube, it seems Steve "Bigotilyo" Mazzagatti really saw something foul on brocks punches. just be the judge. Quote Link to comment
HansSolo Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 no he can't he lost to two pride veterans already in Barnett and Ricco. this isn't a diss to Randy but facts are facts. and the truth is he can't beat Nog. He'd have a better chance of beating Fedor (although I really can't see that happening) than beating Nog. incorrect Randy needs to fight Nog to legitimize his claim to Fedor. if Sylvia had won over Nog then it follows that Randy is the contender to Fedor, since he already beat Sylvia. but he hasn't fought Nog, he can't step over Nogueira and say that he deserves Fedor when he hasn't fought Nog yet. If Tim had won then he can say that's ok I still get Fedor because I beat Tim already, but with Minotauro winning he can't say that he still gets Fedor legitimately because he hasn't fought Nog yet. also Randy and Nog both have wins over Sylvia Randy lost to Barnett and Ricco Rodriguez Nog won over Barnett and Ricco Rodriguez Stylistically Randy has nothing for Nog, he can't take him down because that's what Nog wants, GNP? Even Fedor couldn't knock Nog out with his GNP, Bob Sapp planted Nog's head to the mat a couple of times and Mino just kept on coming, Crocop dazed him but Nog still found a way. So randy can forget about knocking him out. What will happen is that Randy has a choice between getting subbed or getting subbed. Randy is ducking Nog, and that's not the champion's way. unless randy can pull his arms out of nogs submission attempts like fedor does... hehe Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 no he can't he lost to two pride veterans already in Barnett and Ricco. this isn't a diss to Randy but facts are facts. and the truth is he can't beat Nog. He'd have a better chance of beating Fedor (although I really can't see that happening) than beating Nog. he was beaten by a much younger ricco and a rollin' hot barnett but i think randy can beat these guys anytime of the day.... incorrect Randy needs to fight Nog to legitimize his claim to Fedor. if Sylvia had won over Nog then it follows that Randy is the contender to Fedor, since he already beat Sylvia. but he hasn't fought Nog, he can't step over Nogueira and say that he deserves Fedor when he hasn't fought Nog yet. If Tim had won then he can say that's ok I still get Fedor because I beat Tim already, but with Minotauro winning he can't say that he still gets Fedor legitimately because he hasn't fought Nog yet. also Randy and Nog both have wins over Sylvia Randy lost to Barnett and Ricco Rodriguez Nog won over Barnett and Ricco Rodriguez Stylistically Randy has nothing for Nog, he can't take him down because that's what Nog wants, GNP? Even Fedor couldn't knock Nog out with his GNP, Bob Sapp planted Nog's head to the mat a couple of times and Mino just kept on coming, Crocop dazed him but Nog still found a way. So randy can forget about knocking him out. What will happen is that Randy has a choice between getting subbed or getting subbed. Randy is ducking Nog, and that's not the champion's way. i got you point there bro... but randy's way of winning/fighting! very unusual for a wrestler and i think nog never face a man w/ randy's caliber! but because barnett & rodriguez you can say nog got randy's number but you can never can tell what randy can do even if he's aging and all... Quote Link to comment
HansSolo Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 he was beaten by a much younger ricco and a rollin' hot barnett but i think randy can beat these guys anytime of the day.... a much younger rico??? cmon,, thats not even a valid excuse bec rico faced nog a year after he defeated randy... and w/ regards 2 josh bartnett,, bartnett was destroyed by cro crop not once,, not twice but 3x,, and randy loss to this so so guy hahaha :upside: i just dont think randy can beat nog,, specially fedor... why refuse to fight nog now,, its as if hes gonna get better,, hes not getting any younger... Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 i got you point there bro... but randy's way of winning/fighting! very unusual for a wrestler and i think nog never face a man w/ randy's caliber! but because barnett & rodriguez you can say nog got randy's number but you can never can tell what randy can do even if he's aging and all... exactly, randy's way of fighting doesn't match up very well with Nog. Randy is a beast, but his style will not work with Nog. this is MMA where styles make fights. Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 exactly, randy's way of fighting doesn't match up very well with Nog. Randy is a beast, but his style will not work with Nog. this is MMA where styles make fights. well, we'll see about that if randy will enter the octagon to face nog's challenge... he called out randy right? Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 (edited) we'll see about that if randy will enter the octagon to face nog's challenge... he called out randy right? I hope randy takes that fight, it's only going to be good for him. he'll avoid losing all his money fighting Zuffa's lawsuits, he gets back in the good graces of Dana White and the Fertittas, and (should he win) he makes his call to fight fedor much more legitimate now. I'm afraid if Randy refuses to fight Nog, and opt instead to wait out his contract, it will leave him broke. Edited February 6, 2008 by Larry Quote Link to comment
george_bungot Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 bad call tlga ung nangyari n un ky brock. mir was pounded in the head w/ big bombs ng biglang umepal ung ref. inexperienced n rin ang tumalo kc he walk right where mir wanted him. twice ytang ng attempt ng armber c mir b4 he opted for a kneebar. I agree, Brock should have won it from the start. Kung nde lang masyado mabait yung referee at naka-recover si Mir. Pero ang galing ng ground defense ni Mir BJJ expert tlga. Quote Link to comment
XTC Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Hello guys this thread is really interesting please keep up the good work. By the way, Larry and HansSolo, where do you guys train? Quote Link to comment
HansSolo Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 i dont really do MMA,, boxing lng,, b4 s redcorner s may club 650 pro ngyn d2 n lng s mikes pra mlapit,, pro i luv watching MMA more than boxing,, prang gusto q nga mag crosstrain b4 ewan q kung bkt di na2loy... astig ung avatar m sir.. where was that taken??? :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
riceb0i Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 randy is overmatched by big nog just because of nog's style and yeah cap has a bigger chance of beating fedor than bignogit doesn't mean that because fedor beat nog & randy didn't beat nog that randy can't beat fedor... c'mon its a fight anything can happen, but when you have cap & nog in the octagon, chances will look dim for cap. but who cares, it randy couture baby! hehehe Quote Link to comment
kuya willie Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Who do you think will win? Anderson Silva vs Dan Henderson Can't wait for this fight to happen Quote Link to comment
_eRon_ Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 damn, just watched the fights of marquardt winning over horn & minatauro winning over sylvia, the submissions done were outstanding Quote Link to comment
_eRon_ Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 damn, just watched the fights of marquardt winning over horn & minatauro winning over sylvia, the submissions done were outstanding Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I hope randy takes that fight, it's only going to be good for him. he'll avoid losing all his money fighting Zuffa's lawsuits, he gets back in the good graces of Dana White and the Fertittas, and (should he win) he makes his call to fight fedor much more legitimate now. I'm afraid if Randy refuses to fight Nog, and opt instead to wait out his contract, it will leave him broke. yes very true! but what was randy's aim was legit! he wants to fight what he think is well deserved for his last... lets just hope things are done immediately coz randy's not getting any younger! Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Who do you think will win? Anderson Silva vs Dan Henderson Can't wait for this fight to happen spider will win this great fight! no one in their weight div can match this guys talent! i think he'll hold that belt for a long time... muay thai clinch, knees to the head baby! :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
HansSolo Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 (edited) yeah,, i think silva's gonna win that fight,, but its gonna be close... hoping 4 an upset though so rich franklin can join the mix again coz as long as silva's the champ franklin will never have a chance at another title shot... cant wait for the rampage vs griffin match,, now thats gonna be a slambang affair,, hope the TUF 7 finishes quickly.. but ofcourse b4 that will be the rematch of GSP and matt serra,, GSP all the way baby... :thumbsupsmiley: Edited February 7, 2008 by HansSolo Quote Link to comment
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