sickness Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Yeah, I'm really disappointed with Rua's performance. Quote Link to comment
hardtohandle Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 i'm a Lyoto fan myself thanks to you chief, all that i'm saying is in MMA everyone can be beat so saying that Lyoto will win against anyone is really a large pill for me to swallow... take for example how Royce Gracie dominated the first UFCs and then Dan Severn figured out that he could strike his opponents when he takes them down instead of just pulling an americana or a keylock, after that GnP was invented by Mark Coleman, then everything else followed all that i'm saying is, it is premature to say that Lyoto can beat anyone in any given fight, i mean i won't do the MMA math anymore as there are a lot of variables in a fight & sumakit na ulo ko dati dito i'm not saying that Lyoto is boring, but he fights to win though... to quote Kenflo after he beat Alvin Robinson in UFC73 "I finish fights!" i'm still a Lyoto fan but i don't agree with you about Lyoto Thats OK chief. We may disagree on things but we may still be on the same plane, thats how forums go... But in case you didnt know, Royce, The Beast and The Hammer were all God-like in status in UFC or the MMA until their enigma were deciphered... Its just a matter of style begets style. Gracie's wizardry on the ground was solved with that rematch with Ken Shamrock, The Beast and The Hammer's opponents found a way to beat them by emptying their gas tanks... What Im saying here is, once a fighter is exposed with his weaknesses or a style that negates his style, its just a matter of time before he will go down the drain. And we cannot say the same thing about Lyoto "The Dragon" Machida. Ever wonder why so many MMA enthusiasts (those true blue MMA fanatics, not those mainstream MMA fans who find his style boring) wonder in awe at Machida's wizardry on the ring/cage? It is because he is "the anti-thesis" of MMA. How many "MMA analysts" downplayed his skills because he is supposed to be weak in striking and wrestling? But he levelled down each and every fighters who is supposed to be superior in the department where he is weak, with a style that even tacticians of the sport can seem to find a flaw... And now, the same pundits are critiquing him again because he doesnt finish fights and he plays a boring fight... The thing is, with Machida's hybrid style of fighting, only a machine gun can stop him, and you can say that that statement is nut-hugging, but I will bet all my money with the Dragon regardless of who his opponent is, be it Fedor or Barack Obama, heheheheh! Like what I have posted here some pages ago, people will just realize how great Machida is once he mowed down the 205-division. Anyway, I watched the UFC this morning and Rich Franklin was robbed... He clearly won rounds 1 and 3, what the F!?!?! And Shogun is out of shape, if he really is the feared PRIDE fighter of yore, an old and broken Hammer should not last the first round. That fight speaks volume of Rua's capability as a fighter... I bet even Tank Abbott can pull an upset on him, heheheh! Quote Link to comment
ixnay Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 haters would probably take what Penn said the wrong way... he is correct in a sense that once he's inside the octagon with GSP on the other side, thinking about anything else aside from annihilating the other guy is a major no no. at the same time give Penn credit, his cardio has been good after he rededicated himself to his sport... i've seen videos of Penn training really hard as well it actually depends if they will literally take what penn said. BJ is in a different mode or persona when he talks about his upcoming fights. cant wait for his fight against GSp for it will be a great match. still, i'll be rooting for GSP on this one. Quote Link to comment
riceb0i Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Ayus panalo si Henderson...Nakakainis yung laban ni Rua-Coleman, parehong out of shape.i can't say the same thing about Coleman bro since he is known to really gas out... but Shogun gassing is a different story, he may have won the fight be he lost a lot of respect in that fight in my opinion... Thats OK chief. We may disagree on things but we may still be on the same plane, thats how forums go... But in case you didnt know, Royce, The Beast and The Hammer were all God-like in status in UFC or the MMA until their enigma were deciphered... Its just a matter of style begets style. Gracie's wizardry on the ground was solved with that rematch with Ken Shamrock, The Beast and The Hammer's opponents found a way to beat them by emptying their gas tanks... What Im saying here is, once a fighter is exposed with his weaknesses or a style that negates his style, its just a matter of time before he will go down the drain. And we cannot say the same thing about Lyoto "The Dragon" Machida. Ever wonder why so many MMA enthusiasts (those true blue MMA fanatics, not those mainstream MMA fans who find his style boring) wonder in awe at Machida's wizardry on the ring/cage? It is because he is "the anti-thesis" of MMA. How many "MMA analysts" downplayed his skills because he is supposed to be weak in striking and wrestling? But he levelled down each and every fighters who is supposed to be superior in the department where he is weak, with a style that even tacticians of the sport can seem to find a flaw... And now, the same pundits are critiquing him again because he doesnt finish fights and he plays a boring fight... The thing is, with Machida's hybrid style of fighting, only a machine gun can stop him, and you can say that that statement is nut-hugging, but I will bet all my money with the Dragon regardless of who his opponent is, be it Fedor or Barack Obama, heheheheh! Like what I have posted here some pages ago, people will just realize how great Machida is once he mowed down the 205-division. Anyway, I watched the UFC this morning and Rich Franklin was robbed... He clearly won rounds 1 and 3, what the F!?!?! And Shogun is out of shape, if he really is the feared PRIDE fighter of yore, an old and broken Hammer should not last the first round. That fight speaks volume of Rua's capability as a fighter... I bet even Tank Abbott can pull an upset on him, heheheh!while watching the fight i was like damn, Dan Henderson was getting his takedowns and pretty much even yung striking nila with a slight advantage toRich franklin of course, i think nanalo si Henderson kasi he had those takedowns and Rich wasn't really able to get a takedown... anyways good win for Hendo as he really wanted to coach for the upcoming TUF9 USA VS UK and Rich was having 2nd thoughts about the gig... Congratulations to Dan Henderson for the win it actually depends if they will literally take what penn said. BJ is in a different mode or persona when he talks about his upcoming fights. cant wait for his fight against GSp for it will be a great match. still, i'll be rooting for GSP on this one.yep if you've seen the promos for their fight Penn is really on a warpath, just the way he says to the death brings a shiver down my spine... i'm really expecting a great fight come the 31st WAR PENN!!! Quote Link to comment
textickles Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) Rampage-Jardine Booked for UFC 96 Former UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton “Rampage” Jackson will lock horns with Keith Jardine in a showdown pairing two top 10 fighters at UFC 96 on March 7 at the Nationwide Arena in Columbus, Ohio. The UFC announced the matchup -- which adds some much-needed star power to the show -- on Saturday. The bout comes as a bit of a surprise since many see Jackson as the No. 1 contender for Rashad Evans’ UFC light heavyweight crown. Affiliated with the Wolfslair Academy, the 30-year-old Jackson (29-7) has posted seven wins in eight fights, a disputed decision loss to Forrest Griffin at UFC 86 the lone blemish. He knocked out longtime nemesis Wanderlei Silva at UFC 92 in December, launching himself back into title contention. Earlier this month, Jackson pleaded guilty to felony and misdemeanor charges associated with a high-speed chase that ended in his arrest in July; the plea deal will likely allow him to avoid jail time. Jardine (14-4-1), based out of Jackson’s Submission Fighting in Albuquerque, N.M., last fought at UFC 89 in October, when he earned a split decision against Brandon Vera. He also holds victories against former UFC light heavyweight champions Griffin and Chuck Liddell. The 33-year-old former bounty hunter staked his claim in the 205-pound division with an unorthodox style and vicious leg and body kicks. UFC 96 will also feature a bout pairing one-time heavyweight title challenger Gabriel Gonzaga with unbeaten Shane Carwin and a welterweight match pitting Dustin Hazelett against American Top Team’s Ben Saunders. Quinton Jackson vs. Keith JardineGabriel Gonzaga vs. Shane CarwinDustin Hazelett vs. Ben SaundersMatt Hamill vs. Mark MunozGray Maynard vs. Jim MillerKendall Grove vs. Jason DayBrandon Vera vs. Michael PattPete Sell vs. Matt BrownAaron Riley vs. Shane Nelson Liddell-Shogun to Carry UFC 97 Chuck Liddell may be in the twilight of his career, but he still packs quite a box office punch. And the UFC appears willing and able to milk it for all it’s worth. The former light heavyweight champion will toe the line against Mauricio “Shogun” Rua in the featured bout at UFC 97 on April 18 at the Bell Centre in Montreal. UFC President Dana White announced the matchup on Saturday. Once the dominant figure in the 205-pound division, Liddell (21-6) has lost much of his luster in the past two years. He has dropped three of his last four fights, including his knockout loss to current UFC light heavyweight king Rashad Evans in September. Liddell turns 40 in December, and his days as an elite fighter appear numbered, if not finished completely. Still, his resume ranks among the sport’s most impressive, with victories against Randy Couture (twice), Tito Ortiz (twice), Wanderlei Silva and Alistair Overeem. Rua (17-3), meanwhile, has not looked like the same fighter who battered Quinton “Rampage” Jackson, Ricardo Arona and Overeem en route to the 2005 Pride middleweight grand prix title. The dynamic 27-year-old Brazilian submitted to Forrest Griffin in his Octagon debut and struggled to put away Mark Coleman at UFC 93 on Saturday. Conditioning has become a significant concern for Rua, who has fought past the first round only six times in 20 career bouts. Liddell and Rua were originally scheduled to meet at UFC 85 last June, but both men were forced to withdraw from the event with injuries. UFC 97 will also feature the return of reigning middleweight king Anderson Silva, as he defends his belt against Brazilian upstart Thales Leites. A middleweight matchup pitting David Loiseau against Ed Herman will also be included on the card, as the UFC ventures north of the border for the first time in 2009. Edited January 19, 2009 by textickles Quote Link to comment
King Nothing Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I'm so surprised at the hammer actualy i thought he could no longer pull the trigger as compared to golden boy who never was able to pull a trigger... Coleman was still able to execute what he does most...which is take the guys down and pumell them with punch... he was able to do this...the only thing different from the previous hammer to the present hammer is he lost his power and stamina... matanda na masyado eh... 44 yrs old vs. 27 yrs old. Coleman may have lost his "machine guns", still he was able to pull the trigger of his remaining pair of "hand guns" not that bad for a 44 yr old... i would like to think he lost via old age... I take may hats off to coleman. @ ace vs hendo... Im happy to see hendo win... Ganda ng laban it was like a combination of lighweigh match and heavyweight match... mabili gumalaw walang minuto inaksaya bakabakan to the bones! this fight would be the best fight for 2009! @ horns vs. palhares...amazing... its was a show of how a small guy can defeat a big guy...I as a small guy have to learn palhares so much! Quote Link to comment
ixnay Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) here are my thoughts on the last UFC event... on shogun's win against coleman, it was clear that he still have cob webs of the last time he was inside the octagon. on the gassing out factor it was obvious that he lacks the cardio to go toe 2 toe against an aging coleman. in some exchanges the hammer had the better end when he hit shogun with 2 body punch. as for coleman its still good to see how the godfather of GNP do his thing. but clearly he lacks the checking for those leg kicks. next opponent for rua now is a big fight against the iceman. this will be truly a great match to watch. kudos for hendo in winning his match against franklin. its a very very exciting fight to watch except for the accidental headbutt & poke in the eye by hendo. he got a breather on that one. mejo nkagulang din sya dun. ahehe.. actually its the match between chris lytle & marcus davis that i really enjoyed watching.. if you guys saw how the 2 fighter bring it on and exchanging simultaneously. i took notice of the much improved kicks & knees of davis that made the difference in the fight. now im looking forward for the GSP vs Penn on the 31st!.. Edited January 19, 2009 by ixnay Quote Link to comment
King Nothing Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 the lytle vs. davis was more of a brawl for me... Quote Link to comment
riceb0i Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 ahehehe great use of knees and kicks by Marcus Davis although he was absorbing a lot of power punches from Chris Lytle during the fight, the punches weren't "clean" enough to register a score in the judges cards... although fight of the night should have gone to Hendo VS Ace instead of Davis VS Lytle and Coleman VS Rua... the Talent showed why he is in the UFC, Kang won the 1st round and was winning the 2nd until that uneventful takedown which Belcher was able to stuff and then he pulled guard and guillotined Kang for the tap out i was really expecting Kang to win the fight but he got beat in his own game, lucky break for the Talent bawi na lang next time si Kang Palhares was damn strong! grabe ibang klase siya grabe yung mga pagbuhat nya kay Gumby parang hindi 185 na malaki eh... great show of class for Jeremy Horn as well he raised Palhares' hand after the fight and was pointing to Palhares while the winner was being announced as if indicating that Palhares won the match Quote Link to comment
maddromeo Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Why the Shogun Rua Hate!? Alway knew Rua will win but I never expected it to be an easyone againt Coleman. Give Rua a break, its his first fight after his lost to Forrest and that about a year and he had 2 knee surgeries. His ground game was awesome! Sayang lang yung Omoplata he didnt get the sub but his guard and tranistions were very good! His striking was a bit off, but he was able to clinch and land knees to Colemans body and the KO at round 3 finally paid off. Him gassing? Man try to grapple with Mark Coleman, who wouldnt get tired huh?! Give credit to Mark Coleman for putting up a Good Fight(Godfather of GnP)! taking down and pumelling Rua, thou he got KO'd on the 3rd round. He may lost the fight but he showed alot of heart and alot of Fight in him! The hell with the old age, Randy's 45 and Coleman's 44! And they still kick ass. Randy vs. Coleman! Dana Make it happen! Lets see whos the better 40 year old fighter! Yan wala na excuses for old age pag natalo! Hehehe Davis vs. Lytle definitely a stand up War! And Fight of the Night! Rousimar Palhares! Dominating Performance over Jeremy Horn! Watch out for this guy! Good thing Hendo won the decision! We dont get to watch Franklin for another season of coaching in TUF! Hehehe... but that judge who gave Franklin a 30-27, that was really off. Fight was close to call but Hendo did got those takedowns. Sayang lang hindi decisive yung Win kaya marami parin di makakilala kay Hendo. Hendo vs. Bisping! Hendo via GnP KO! BJPenn future LW and WW UFC Champ of the World! WarPEnn!!! :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
kuya willie Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 sana maibalik ni shogun yung lupit nya nun naglalaro pa sya sa pride! Quote Link to comment
berserker15 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Yeah, I'm really disappointed with Rua's performance.me too. really bad performance. he should improve his conditioning if he will fight Chuck Liddell. Quote Link to comment
twentysix Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 if shogun will not put his acts together, we might see him geting ktfo by chuck. Quote Link to comment
King Nothing Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 The hell with the old age, Randy's 45 and Coleman's 44! And they still kick ass. Randy vs. Coleman! Dana Make it happen! Lets see whos the better 40 year old fighter! Yan wala na excuses for old age pag natalo! HeheheActually i dont think theres alot of rau hte here... is just they give more respect to the godfather of GnP... after at look at him, dela hoya is no match to this guy interms of will to win.. sana maibalik ni shogun yung lupit nya nun naglalaro pa sya sa pride! I doubt it with two knee surgey and an elbow problem during pride... i think its not gonna happen that the shogun will get back to his very old form... if shogun will not put his acts together, we might see him geting ktfo by chuck. well rua still has the upper hand... interms of age... ewan ko lang kapag naisahan ni chuck si rua ng tipong malakas na tira malamang manlambot si rua dito... one more think this is another unfair match up ... young v.s old obviously the young has the advantage... Quote Link to comment
The_Blade Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 sana maibalik ni shogun yung lupit nya nun naglalaro pa sya sa pride! never mangyari sa UFC, he looks good sa Pride dahil sa mga knees to the head while the opponent is down or football kick to the head ( ginawa nya kay rampage)... kaya nga naoperahan na 2 tuhod nya. at di nya pwede gawin ang mga diving punch nya kundi bali bali braso nya... regarding sa last fight in the first 2 rounds mukhang tinamaan si rua ng awa. otherwise pwede nya putulin yung tuhod ni coleman via legkicks lang. Quote Link to comment
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