Poll: Bongbong Marcos Vs Leni Robredo

[haroots2]

kung sasabihin na nandaya si Leni

dapat din sabahin na posibleng nandaya din si digong

 

 

remember iisang Comelec, PCOS and Smartmatice lang ang ginamit sa pagpapanalo sa kanila.

 

Baka nga dumagdag pa nga boto di Digong at mabawasan si Mar kung imbestgahan and mag recount.

 

If the lead of Leni wasn't too narrow there may not be any protest sat all.

[2WarningPoints]

Marcos was cheated last election... that's clear

[camiar]

kung sasabihin na nandaya si Leni

dapat din sabahin na posibleng nandaya din si digong

 

 

remember iisang Comelec, PCOS and Smartmatice lang ang ginamit sa pagpapanalo sa kanila.

 

May mga nagsasabi na kung walang dayaan, baka 20 million ang boto kay Duterte at hindi 16 million lang.

[red60]

We have an interesting development Marcos family will return ill-gotten wealth (Gold and Cash). This is according to Duterte ewan ko lang kung magkatotoo.

[rooster69ph]

I've heard on the radio (dzBB) na ang mga gold na daw na un ay kinuha ng mga Marcos for "safekeeping" para sa ating pabagsak na economy that time. Nice.... play of words para hindi sila magmukhang magnanakaw... with the statement ni digong na gagamitin ang ibabalik na ginto para sa magiging deficit ng budget.. it makes me think na mukhang nararamdaman na nila na hindi kakayanin ng current tax collection ang proposed budget nila.

 

Kung titignan mo, naghahanda na eh.. Comelec Chair may impeachment case.. SC CJ may impeachment case din.. Sino pa kaya... lawyers ni leni.. malamang kakasuhan din for disbarment.. aabangan ko ito..

 

You "donate" things you own and "return" what is not rightfully yours....ganun lang ka simple yun. Add to that yun sinabing the Marcoses will return part of their unexplained wealth.

 

At sinong nagbigay pahintulot na sila ang mag "safekeep" ng mga kinuha nila? Aba'y kay tagal nang hinihingi yan na ibalik di ba panay ang deny nila na may kinuha sila sabay ngayon may ibabalik sila?

 

Alam na this ...

[rooster69ph]

Bbm magsosoli na raw kayo ng mga pagaaring di naman sa inyo. Bakit ngayon lang? Kasama ba yan sa plano para sa pagbabalik sa 2022

[red60]

Pansin ko lang tahimik mga Marcos loyalist ah. Asan na yung mga nagsasabi na walang ninakaw yung mga Marcos? Gawa gawa lang daw yung kaso laban sa kanila (kahit pinapasoli na ng US, Swiss court sa Phil Gov).

[daphne loves derby]

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SC junks Marcos' motion questioning integrity of 2016 polls

https://www.rappler.com/nation/181182-sc-upholds-integrity-automated-election-system-2016?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nation

 

 

SC RULING. The SC junks former senator Bongbong Marcos' motion questioning the integrity of the 2016 automated polls. File photo by Jasmin Dulay

MANILA, Philippines (UPDATED) – The Supreme Court (SC) has upheld the integrity of the automated election system, which former senator Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos Jr questioned in his electoral protest against Vice President Leni Robredo.

The SC, sitting as the Presidential Electoral Tribunal (PET), junked Marcos’ first cause of action for the electoral protest.

The SC decision was dated August 29, but Robredo lawyers Romulo Macalintal and Maria Bernadette Sardillo released a copy of the document on Tuesday, September 5.

“Even if protestant succeeds in proving his first cause of action, this will not mean that he has already won the position of Vice President as this can only be determined by a manual recount of all votes in all precincts,” read the decision.

“And if this is a relief protestant has clearly stated he is not praying for, then, allowing the first cause of action to continue would be an exercise in futility and would have no practical effect,” it added.

Defeated vice presidential bet Marcos had accused Robredo’s Liberal Party of electronic cheating following the surge the latter’s votes during the unofficial canvassing, and the unauthorized script change in the system. (READ: TIMELINE: Marcos-Robredo election case)

Since Marcos questioned the credibility of the whole elections, the PET included the Commission on Elections as a party to the case.

The same August 29 decision ruled that ballot boxes will only be retrieved in the 3 provinces Marcos identified where initial recounting of votes will be held to determine if his protest has merit. These are Camarines Sur, Iloilo, and Negros Oriental. (READ: SC forms teams for revision of ballots in Marcos-Robredo election case)

Marcos originally wanted ballot boxes to be retrieved in 22 provinces and 5 highly-urbanized cities for the vote recount.

The decryption and printing of ballot images will only be conducted in the 3 provinces as well.

The PET also deferred action on Marcos’ request to conduct a technical and forensic examination of all ballots from the provinces of Basilan, Maguindanao, and Lanao del Sur. These are the provinces where he wants votes nullified due to alleged election fraud. (READ: 2016 Bongbong vs Leni poll protest: What ARMM 'election fingerprints' say)

Macalintal welcomed the latest PET ruling, saying it proves that Marcos’ protest “has no basis” and he is “only fishing for evidence.”

“We are very, very happy with the results of this resolution of the PET, because from this resolution of the tribunal, it only shows that indeed, the protest of Mr Marcos has no basis. It is only based on some speculations and conclusions,” said Macalintal.

‘We look forward for an early dismissal of the case of Mr Marcos,” he added.

Edited September 5, 2017 by daphne loves derby

[rooster69ph]

Kaya ba biglang willing na magsauli ng nakaw na yaman dahil sa hindi pinaboran ng sc ang pagkuwestiyon sa integridad ng halalan. Ayun compromise agreement na lang para papogi.

 

Wala atang silbi un paulit-ulit na binabanggit na 20,000 indices. Hahaha...kaya pala di ma-explain pag tinatanong

Edited September 5, 2017 by rooster69ph

[rooster69ph]

this is interesting ... dami daw evidence na ipapakita para magpapatibay sa kaso niya tapos sa oras ng labasan na ng ebudensiya ayun sa huli he waived the presentation. ano yan parang poker panay bluff but when someone calls then you fold.

 

“It was Marcos who first asked the PET to first resolve the issue of defective election system and his vaunted claim that he would be presenting voluminous documents and evidence to prove his case,” Macalintal pointed out.

Almost one year after the first preliminary hearing, Macalintal said Marcos agreed to dismiss the issue on regularity of the automated election system and waived the presentation of his alleged voluminous evidence.

 

 

Read more: https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/964380/bongbong-to-blame-for-delay-in-poll-protest-robredo-camp#ixzz55bwJI7ih

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anyway, and the countdown to the pautot continues ...

 

1 wk and 3 days ... 1 wk and 3 days

[Guest]

let wait

[rooster69ph]

Caretaker nga lang daw kc sila.

the bsp has always been the caretaker of our gold reserves. kailang pa naging sila ang caretaker nito at sino nag authorize na sila ang maging caretaker?

 

at kung ito’y simpleng pagturn-over ng mga pagmamayaring ipinagkatiwala lang naman pala sa kanila then bakit may kailangang hinging compromise agreement?

[will robie]

Maybe I should inject some life into this thread:

 

 

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/06/18/sotto-bares-alleged-irregularities-in-2016-polls

In the peace and order arena, Dela Rosa has been implementing "Oplan Double Barrel"

 

In the judicial arena, Sereno seems to be staring at an "Oplan Double Barrel" as she is facing an impending impeachment while, at the same time, dealing with a quo warranto proceeding.

 

In the political arena, those who benefited from election cheating, I would opine the yellowtards, are facing in impending investigation by the senate on alleged election irregularities plus an electoral protest by BBM. Double Barrel din.

Edited March 11, 2018 by will robie

[will robie]

 

http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2018/03/10/robredo-seeks-urgent-probe-Sotto-poll-fraud-allegations.html

 

 

 

 

"Ang apektado dito iyong buong electoral process — mula kay Pangulo hanggang sa pinakamaliit na councilor sa pinakamaliit na munisipyo. Kapag kinuwestiyon mo iyong integridad ng 2016 elections, kinukuwestiyon mo iyong pagkapanalo ng lahat na pinagbotohan noong 2016," she said.

If this were so, why don't Poe, Roxas, and the other presidential candidates file an electoral protest against Duterte? They can file an electoral protest and I would opine that in a recount, Duterte's lead would swell compared to the votes counted in the elections.

 

As for Robredo, I don't doubt that BBM won. My question is: by how much?

[JeanLucPicard]

Drama could have been resolved if they just recounted the votes if Robredo is so sure of her victory. Problem is, Robredo and Macalintal keep dodging the issue by filing delaying motions after delaying motions and keeps exhorting Bongbong to just run for the Senate in 2019, probably to frustrate Bongbong so that when he runs, the PET will consider he had abandoned his protest like the ruling for Miriam before.

[will robie]

Like BBM said, he will not abandon this. His sister is probably running for the Senate. If his Manang Imee runs and I am of the opinion she will, the question is not if she will win but what place she'll be in the Magic 12. Kaya Robredo, humanda ka na sa recount.

[tk421]

Paano kaya kung pagkatapos ng recount, ma vindicate yun votes ni Robredo? Tatanggapin niyo kaya o sasabihin niyo pa din may dayaan sa recount?

[camiar]

Paano kaya kung pagkatapos ng recount, ma vindicate yun votes ni Robredo? Tatanggapin niyo kaya o sasabihin niyo pa din may dayaan sa recount?

Whatever the reaction of either side will be after the recount is not relevant.

 

Basta mag recount. Panalo kung panalo. Talo kung talo.

[will robie]

Pagkatapos ng recount at ako ay sigurado na matatalo si Robredo, ano kaya ang reaction ng mga dilawan?

 

They can delay all they want just like the delay in the decision of the Marcos burial but it is inevitable that there will be a recount and I am of the belief that BBM routed Robredo in the 2016 elections.

Edited March 14, 2018 by will robie

[tk421]

Kung sigurado ka agad sa result, that must mean may daya na agad yun gagawing recount.

 

For me, its still 50/50.

 

Although Im hoping Leni would win again as I would prefer anyone than a Marcos for VP.

[will robie]

Paano nagkaroon ng daya ang recount? Kaya nga may recount kasi may daya yung 2016 elections sa VP post.

Edited March 14, 2018 by will robie

[tk421]

Paano nagkaroon ng daya ang recount? Kaya nga may recount kasi may daya yung 2016 elections sa VP post.

Kasi sigurado ka na agad sa result. Eh kaya nga recount para malaman ang totoong bilang tapos sure ka na agad sa result bago pa mag recount? Eh para saan pa ang recount?

[will robie]

Kasi sigurado ka na agad sa result. Eh kaya nga recount para malaman ang totoong bilang tapos sure ka na agad sa result bago pa mag recount? Eh para saan pa ang recount?

I am not the only one with that opinion. The reason that there is a recount was that the PET found probable cause for cheating.

[tk421]

 

Key word here is probable... meaning still not sure. Kaya nga iri recount diba? So its still 50/50.

 

I am not the only one with that opinion. The reason that there is a recount was that the PET found probable cause for cheating.

[will robie]

Key word here is probable... meaning still not sure. Kaya nga iri recount diba? So its still 50/50.

Key word here is probable... meaning still not sure. Kaya nga iri recount diba? So its still 50/50.

Yoi can opine whatever you wanna opine but I am convinced that BBM will win the recount.