Poll: Bongbong Marcos Vs Leni Robredo

[dencio]

im an I.T. Professional definitely what has transpired makes us raise our eye brows ... sa i.t. world may ilang stages bago mo ilagay sa production or what we call final product.. during development our developer make their own unit testing with accordance to the clients requirements/business needs/scope and after that we have Q.A. the true Testing stage the unit/software/website has to pass the long list of test script and upon passing Q.A. stage we have User Acceptance Testing stage where in the client has to use it and evaluate it first hand and check if the system is working properly , if theres some changes we go back to development stage again then Q.A. then U.A.T .... if all the approving levels have agreed to pass it, and then we proceed to production the final product phase 1,. any changes on phase 1 is called phase 2.... phase 1 is definitely not phase 2... so the system is never be the same again...

And this is all the more applicable if you are introducing a code change that is as complex as vote alteration. So many variables to consider - number of total votes, potential lead of the frontrunner (in this case BBM), who that frontrunner will be, which ERs to manipulate, etc. - that you would really have to go through all those stages. On the other hand, an alleged cosmetic change may not need to go through the same development life cycle and can be introduced into the system quicker and easier.

[haroots2]

And this is all the more applicable if you are introducing a code change that is as complex as vote alteration. So many variables to consider - number of total votes, potential lead of the frontrunner (in this case BBM), who that frontrunner will be, which ERs to manipulate, etc. - that you would really have to go through all those stages. On the other hand, an alleged cosmetic change may not need to go through the same development life cycle and can be introduced into the system quicker and easier.

 

What cruzada was pointing is it is the SOP of an IT System. A company or agencies may change the SOP because of convenience or any other reason but it is our universal SOP.

About the alleged cosmetic change, who else will know if its the only thing done in the server. That is also why I pointed out before that the I.T. team of Comelec is weak. Smartmatic should not have any access directly to the main (production) server before May 9 to avoid any unauthorized changes. Now it comes a big deal to a closely contested VP race.

[Simikiel]

Dapat by 8pm kagabi nag insist si BBM na itigil na canvassing sa pagka VP. Almost 2M na lamang nya by that time, dapat ipinagsigawan nya ulit na daya na lang talo nya.

[camiar]

im an I.T. Professional definitely what has transpired makes us raise our eye brows ... sa i.t. world may ilang stages bago mo ilagay sa production or what we call final product.. during development our developer make their own unit testing with accordance to the clients requirements/business needs/scope and after that we have Q.A. the true Testing stage the unit/software/website has to pass the long list of test script and upon passing Q.A. stage we have User Acceptance Testing stage where in the client has to use it and evaluate it first hand and check if the system is working properly , if theres some changes we go back to development stage again then Q.A. then U.A.T .... if all the approving levels have agreed to pass it, and then we proceed to production the final product phase 1,. any changes on phase 1 is called phase 2.... phase 1 is definitely not phase 2... so the system is never be the same again...

 

I agree with this. Our company specializes in developing and integrating mission-critical industrial control systems. We follow strict procedures for Acceptance Tests. Once you have completed the Acceptance Test and you have to make a change, however minor, a change notice has to be reviewed and approved first by the accepting party BEFORE you make the actual changes, and you have to have the revised acceptance test procedure reviewed and approved first. If the accepting party is strict in doing their job, they will ask for a complete round of test, to make sure the revisions did not affect any other function within the program.

 

The VCM system is a mission critical system. Smartmatics' procedure in making the changes are highly irregular.

 

 

 

What cruzada was pointing is it is the SOP of an IT System. A company or agencies may change the SOP because of convenience or any other reason but it is our universal SOP.

About the alleged cosmetic change, who else will know if its the only thing done in the server. That is also why I pointed out before that the I.T. team of Comelec is weak. Smartmatic should not have any access directly to the main (production) server before May 9 to avoid any unauthorized changes. Now it comes a big deal to a closely contested VP race.

 

Comelec's IT Team is weak, and are liable if the investigation finds evidence of fraud in the revised program.

 

 

Question? What protocols/stages(if you will) did Smartmatic did prior to the elections? Do you have any credible source or a hypothesis backed with proof to back up your claim?

 

I'm not discrediting you or anything but a credible source/s will shed more light into the situation. IT experts have different views on this matter and it would make you qquestion if their claim doesn't have any bias.

 

If Duterte were to reply to you, here's how eh would have said it:

 

You son of a whore, shut up. You don't know what you're talking about. Di ka man makasabot sa usapan, sawsaw ka pa....

 

Joke lang....

Edited May 27, 2016 by camiar

[Misteryotao]

 

I agree with this. Our company specializes in developing and integrating mission-critical industrial control systems. We follow strict procedures for Acceptance Tests. Once you have completed the Acceptance Test and you have to make a change, however minor, a change notice has to be reviewed and approved first by the accepting party BEFORE you make the actual changes, and you have to have the revised acceptance test procedure reviewed and approved first. If the accepting party is strict in doing their job, they will ask for a complete round of test, to make sure the revisions did not affect any other function within the program.

 

The VCM system is a mission critical system. Smartmatics' procedure in making the changes are highly irregular.

Same. While i work in a somewhat small financial institution. Nothing related to IT profession. The company I work with made some changes several years ago. As internet became more accessible. The company decided to unify the software used in all departments. So i had first experience on the steps it took to develop a system. And cruzada post coincide on how a software development works.

 

Going back to the proposed system audit. The audit is must. Whoever is proclaim as winner, the opposing side will call from fraud. The audit will put to rest any accusations of fraud. They really need to get an independent IT analysis. I suggest they get people outside of the country. Foreigners who respectable reputation and has no interest on either side on the VP race.

[hellyeah1]

O tapos na ang canvassing at si Leni ang nanalo! Asaan ang mga ebidensiya ni Bobong Marcos? Wala! Puro ngawa lang! Ang mga de kampanilya niyang Abogado tameme rin! Bwekekekekeke! Lalo na si Dilangalen! Bwekekekekeke!

 

Samakatuwid ang COC na hawak ni Bobong at COC ni Leni ay Parehas lang ng COC na binilang ng Kongreso! Bwekekekekeke! Mapait ang pakbet! Ampalaya pa more!

[hellyeah1]

Kung slogan nga ng Pepsi pinaghinalaan mo pati yung mga ibang posters dito tamang hinala ka rin hinde na nakakapagtaka tatang na ma-praning ka sa plan b na pinalulutang ng kampo ni Bobong! Bwekekekekeke!

 

Kung hinde magiging maingat si Pres. Duterte sa mga sinasabi nya siya mismo ang sisira sa kanyang administrasyon! Natural na gagawing isyu ng oposisyon ang magiging palpak ng administrasyon! Yan ang esensiya ng demokrasyang bansa.

 

 

To me, PDP-Laban, NP, and NPC are making a coalition specifically to get take the Senate Presidency away from LP.

 

Don't insist that there's no Plan B. I don't buy that.

 

LP's Plan B will exploit Duterte's weakness -- his penchant to do or say something without thinking it through (or simply, his lack of a master plan, which is becoming more obvious as days pass)

 

LP would be naive not to have something like it up their sleeves.

Edited May 27, 2016 by hellyeah1

[rooster69ph]

[dos8dos]

its OVER & OFFICIAL, the last man standing is a WOMAN

[azraelmd]

Congrats to Leni the Lackey....

[jerrysantos0922]

tingin ko meron eh

[rooster69ph]

Congrats to Leni the Lackey....

Isa na namang biyuda ang nakadale sa marcos ... #MarcosJinx

[red60]

 

To me, PDP-Laban, NP, and NPC are making a coalition specifically to get take the Senate Presidency away from LP.

 

Don't insist that there's no Plan B. I don't buy that.

 

LP's Plan B will exploit Duterte's weakness -- his penchant to do or say something without thinking it through (or simply, his lack of a master plan, which is becoming more obvious as days pass)

 

LP would be naive not to have something like it up their sleeves.

 

Well there's a problem in the so called "Plan B" theory reportedly concocted by LP. First of all many of the LP congressmen have already abandoned ship. If there was indeed a plan to overthrow Duterte from the beginning then LP should have been united considering Robredo already won in the transparency survey. Plan B is a myth like the other conspiracy theory spreading prior to election. I even remember reading that Mar will send someone to Luneta para magpabugbog or even going so far to bomb Luneta park. Pati yung "Pink ballot" wala rin naman. The way I see it many of the LP members and former members have already accepted the Duterte win and have no plans of overthrowing him for now. Many have already embraced him by switching to Duterte's camp.

 

I think Marcos seriously underestimated Leni. When Marcos overtook Chiz in the survey he temporarily stopped airing ads in ABS, GMA, TV5 when Leni was closing in, he started airing his ads again. The VP debate IMHO also damaged Marcos' campaign, this is the reason why he opted out of the 2nd debate. He was pummeled by Cayetano, Robredo, and Escudero.

Edited May 27, 2016 by red60

[IDGAF]

NONE whatsoever.

 

leni won FAIR and SQUARE!

 

if GONG GONG won then we may have some issue there

[rooster69ph]

The VP debate IMHO also damaged Marcos' campaign, this is the reason why he opted out of the 2nd debate. He was pummeled by Cayetano, Robredo, and Escudero.

 

Well marcos loyalist just could face this reality thus they have to spin it and make it look like they are always on the upperhand.

 

At least kay "lackey" ang huling halakhak...