Duterte's Presidency : Expectations, Controversies, Rants, Etc.

[Jasonkidd]

 

Hirap i-respeto ang tao na hindi marunong rumespeto ano?

 

 

 

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sa mga nagsasabi na mas maganda ang present admin sa past admin.

 

Dapat lang mas mahigitan pa ng present admin ang past admin. Dahil kapag ang present admin eh hindi nahigitan ang past admin eh nagsayang lang ng boto ang 16million followers ni duterturd.

Well said. Don't compare the two. Im really disappointed in the past admin. Im not really sure if his brain is working or not sometimes. Actually ny expectation with this admin is very high. Right now I could say he is still in the passing grade. Pasang awa ika nga.

[rooster69ph]

Hirap i-respeto ang tao na hindi marunong rumespeto ano?

 

 

 

_____________________________________________________

 

sa mga nagsasabi na mas maganda ang present admin sa past admin.

 

Dapat lang mas mahigitan pa ng present admin ang past admin. Dahil kapag ang present admin eh hindi nahigitan ang past admin eh nagsayang lang ng boto ang 16million followers ni duterturd.

Well tama yan sinabi mo ... Parang ganito lang yan, sa iba sasabihin nila halimbawa bakit palagi kang nega samantalang wala naman silang ibang bukang bibig kundi puros positives naman sa pangulo. Yan yun mga hardcore pro Duterte. Sa totoo lang yun mga reklamo lagi ng mga nasa grupong ito dun sa mga ginagawa supposedly ng mga dilawan eh ganun din naman ginagawa nila pero di nila nakikita ang sarili nilang pinaggagawa.

 

At essentially dalwang klase ang hardcore pro duterte ngayon ... The original 16m (kung hindi pa ito nalagas) who voted for him and yun mga "bandwagoners" eto un mga anti PNoy forever na di naman si Duterte na ang binoto pero ngayon eh maka-duterte na rin dahil nga talo ang manok nila. Tapos nandiyan din naman din ang mga taong sumusuporta na lang kasi tanggap naman nila na siya na ang pangulo. Kung pagsasamahin mo ang lahat ng ito, ito yun komposisyon kung bakit napakalaking percentage ng pilipino ang nainiwala sa pangulong duterte sa simula. Ngunit kung makikita natin ngayon bumababa na ang bilang nito specially dun sa isyu kung sa tingin ba nila kaya ng pangulo maideliver ang mga pangako nito. Sa tingin ko ito'y dahil nagbago ang tingin nun mga nasa 3rd group.

[rooster69ph]

Well said. Don't compare the two. Im really disappointed in the past admin. Im not really sure if his brain is working or not sometimes. Actually ny expectation with this admin is very high. Right now I could say he is still in the passing grade. Pasang awa ika nga.

Were you disappointed with the PNoy admin just one year into his presidency?

 

If you had very high expectations initially and suddenly it drop to moderate expectations in just a year's time what does it tells you on your confidence level on his ability to deliver?

[Bolj]

Even a former dilawan like myself was sooooo disappointed with Pnoy even before when he was just in congress and senate for that matter what more when he became president. All i remember about his presidency is "anti wang-wang". Too much difference in a 1 year period for duterte, don't turn blind, deaf and s*****.

[rooster69ph]

Even a former dilawan like myself was sooooo disappointed with Pnoy even before when he was just in congress and senate for that matter what more when he became president. All i remember about his presidency is "anti wang-wang". Too much difference in a 1 year period for duterte, don't turn blind, deaf and s*****.

I think the proper word is dislike not disappointed.

 

You never had hopes nor expectations on him to begin with when he became president to be disappointed.

 

Did you remember our gdp was over 7% within his second year in office? Were you happy then? Not a lot of people remember and make a big deal of that but many are ecstatic that we achieved 6.9% just recently under digong. Did anyone care to look into what he did solely for us to achieve that 6.9% ... lahat ba ng credit goes to him? could it be possible that yun iba naman ay mga programang ipinagpatuloy mula sa nakaraang admin?

 

What about the numerous credit rating upgrades we got during the term of the past admin bec of how they handled our fiscal and monetary policy that lead to a lower intetest rate scenario/environment? Dahil dito the business sector was able to take advantage of lower cost of money to finance expansions which help in the growth of the nation. Does anyone remembers? Pinansin ba ng masa yan in the first place?

Edited November 23, 2017 by rooster69ph

[haroots2]

I think the proper word is dislike not disappointed.

 

You never had hopes nor expectations on him to begin with when he became president to be disappointed.

 

Did you remember our gdp was over 7% within his second year in office? Were you happy then? Not a lot of people remember and make a big deal of that but many are ecstatic that we achieved 6.9% just recently under digong. Did anyone care to look into what he did solely for us to achieve that 6.9% ... lahat ba ng credit goes to him? could it be possible that yun iba naman ay mga programang ipinagpatuloy mula sa nakaraang admin?

 

Maganda naman yung 7% GDP growth rate ni Pnoy. So we are all happy na na achieve na yun. Pero itong 6.9 ngayon ware you happy about it? Konti lang naman ang difference. And yung sinasabi mong possible naman programa ng nakaraang admin yung pwede naman yun ang nagyari so its the same question din sa last admin. Posible din naman na GMA admin ang nakatulog sa 7% GDP growth diba?

[Bolj]

I think the proper word is dislike not disappointed.

You never had hopes nor expectations on him to begin with when he became president to be disappointed.

Did you remember our gdp was over 7% within his second year in office? Were you happy then? Not a lot of people remember and make a big deal of that but many are ecstatic that we achieved 6.9% just recently under digong. Did anyone care to look into what he did solely for us to achieve that 6.9% ... lahat ba ng credit goes to him? could it be possible that yun iba naman ay mga programang ipinagpatuloy mula sa nakaraang admin?

What about the numerous credit rating upgrades we got during the term of the past admin bec of how they handled our fiscal and monetary policy that lead to a lower intetest rate scenario/environment? Dahil dito the business sector was able to take advantage of lower cost of money to finance expansions which help in the growth of the nation. Does anyone remembers? Pinansin ba ng masa yan in the first place?

Your question about pinansin ng masa yan? Ang question is mapapansin ba ng masa yan? GDP growth in the 2nd year of Pnoy? One could attribute it kay GMA for that matter same as for the 6.7 of dutertz ngayun. One must talk about inclusive growth in order for the "masa" to get into the equation. I'm quite sure 1 "accomplishment" you say here - dutertards will equal it with 10 or maybe more. JFK and daphne post quite a lot of them yet rather anti dutertz people rather post one liner troll statements with matching ad hominems without substance whatsoever.

[rooster69ph]

 

Maganda naman yung 7% GDP growth rate ni Pnoy. So we are all happy na na achieve na yun. Pero itong 6.9 ngayon ware you happy about it? Konti lang naman ang difference. And yung sinasabi mong possible naman programa ng nakaraang admin yung pwede naman yun ang nagyari so its the same question din sa last admin. Posible din naman na GMA admin ang nakatulog sa 7% GDP growth diba?

Did you see me complaining or feeling unhappy about it?

 

Now this is a classic case as you said why people like me get into trouble with the admin ... there are people like you trying to join the fray but don't get kung ano ba yun punto ng pinaguusapan tapos kung saan saan dadalhin. Like asking di ka ba masaya on the 6.9% gdp.

 

Yun context is given na na achieve din naman ni PNoy yun mataas na GDP in fact higher pa nga di ba may nakaalala ba nun? Kasi sabi nga wala naman naalalang nagawa daw si PNoy. Si duterte ang galing! And yes maaring PNoy was also reaping the benefits of the previous admin in fact not only from pgma. still does not change the premise kung walang ginawa eh di duterte won't reap anything from the previous admin. Common sense lang yun. Pero hindi ba na cite ko yun ginawang fiscal and monetary policy to prove kahit paano may nagawa but definitely di napansin. Ilan ba sa mga masa nakakaintindi kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng mga policies na yan.

 

Btw may pending question ako sa iyo abt dun sa proposal mo on the mega rehab center. Tagal na ako naghihintay to be enlightened by you. Paki lang pls.

[haroots2]

Did you see me complaining or feeling unhappy about it?

 

 

Btw may pending question ako sa iyo abt dun sa proposal mo on the mega rehab center. Tagal na ako naghihintay to be enlightened by you. Paki lang pls.

 

That's why I asked para sigurado di ba kung ano ang saloobion mo. Baka sabihin mo nag aasume naman ako.

 

On the mega rehab,anything physical can be renovated on its intended purpose. HIndi naman complicated ang infra na ginawa doon. Kaya na yan ng mga architect and engineers natin dito.

HIndi naman total waste yung mega rehab center, kung ako mag TVC sila ng successful rehab patient para maka entice na magpa rehab dito.

[tk421]

On the mega rehab... as I understand it, is a donation.

 

So... pag ni renovate natin para ma re-purpose sya, ibig sabihin gagastos na tayo?

[Jasonkidd]

I think the proper word is dislike not disappointed.

 

You never had hopes nor expectations on him to begin with when he became president to be disappointed.

 

Did you remember our gdp was over 7% within his second year in office? Were you happy then? Not a lot of people remember and make a big deal of that but many are ecstatic that we achieved 6.9% just recently under digong. Did anyone care to look into what he did solely for us to achieve that 6.9% ... lahat ba ng credit goes to him? could it be possible that yun iba naman ay mga programang ipinagpatuloy mula sa nakaraang admin?

 

What about the numerous credit rating upgrades we got during the term of the past admin bec of how they handled our fiscal and monetary policy that lead to a lower intetest rate scenario/environment? Dahil dito the business sector was able to take advantage of lower cost of money to finance expansions which help in the growth of the nation. Does anyone remembers? Pinansin ba ng masa yan in the first place?

Yup correct. Dislike. I didn't expect anything to change in his term, well maybe much worst. He took the words out of my mouth. Ang pinangako lang ni Pnoy NO WANGWANG e. Though pati un hindi din nasunod hehe. For the GDP thing. A simple Filipino citizen won't feel any change or any improvement just because the GDP grows. Mararamdaman lang natin ang wage increases, price reduction of basic commodities, improvement in goverment services, more jobs, and safety in the environment. Other than that mga GDP GDP na yan some might not even know what GDP is. Because they dont care. Maybe because our expectations with the president is very high that is why some are disappointed (aside from people who just want him to fail and be in power). They think that he is the "savior" or the "answer" to our country. Sadly, he is not. Not beccause he is incable, but because we ourselves don't and won't accept change. Because sanay na tayo. We really need DISCIPLINE.

[rooster69ph]

Your question about pinansin ng masa yan? Ang question is mapapansin ba ng masa yan? GDP growth in the 2nd year of Pnoy? One could attribute it kay GMA for that matter same as for the 6.7 of dutertz ngayun. One must talk about inclusive growth in order for the "masa" to get into the equation. I'm quite sure 1 "accomplishment" you say here - dutertards will equal it with 10 or maybe more. JFK and daphne post quite a lot of them yet rather anti dutertz people rather post one liner troll statements with matching ad hominems without substance whatsoever.

I did not use "masa" which have a different connotation. I said people ...general classification yan pwedeng masa pwedeng yun tulad mo kasi alam kong nakakaintindi ka kung ano ang gdp at yun ibang sinasabi ko.

 

Kaya nga ikaw mismo ang tinanong ko. sa iyo pag magada gdp hindi ba achievement yun? Well kung hindi bakit may nagcocongratulate sa pangulo dito. In that sense tinatanong nga kita mismo kung naalala mo ba na kahit wala kamong ginawa ay nahigitan pa ni PNoy yun 6.9% na gdp natin ngayon. At yun sa mga nagbunyi sa resultang ito na pro duterte ipinagbunyi di ba nila yun dati nun kapanahunan ni PNoy at nag post din sila ng congrats PNoy. O baka dahil ayaw kay PNoy deadma sa 7.3% at di nga maalala pero big deal yun 6.9%. If so then good.

Edited November 23, 2017 by rooster69ph

[rooster69ph]

 

That's why I asked para sigurado di ba kung ano ang saloobion mo. Baka sabihin mo nag aasume naman ako.

 

On the mega rehab,anything physical can be renovated on its intended purpose. HIndi naman complicated ang infra na ginawa doon. Kaya na yan ng mga architect and engineers natin dito.

HIndi naman total waste yung mega rehab center, kung ako mag TVC sila ng successful rehab patient para maka entice na magpa rehab dito.

I share tk421's view and i have explained na before. Ang sabi ko nga evaluate natin sa orig na plano kasi kung drug rehab ang purpose at yun ang structural design tapos dahil di ma utilized sige pwede namn ibahin uli structural design pero gagastos tayo hindi ba sabi ko mga kung limited resources ng gobyerno yun gagastusin sa repair eh can be use for other projects kung sa umpisa pa lang eh napagplanuhan talaga at naisip di pala 10000 ang kailangan na capacity at dapat joint use ang purpose kaya ganun na agad ang plinano at pinatyo.

 

 

Pero more than that ang main issue is tama bang ipagsama ang rehab ng criminal at ng addict. Iyan ang gusto kong makuhang paglilinaw

[haroots2]

I share tk421's view and i have explained na before. Ang sabi ko nga evaluate natin sa orig na plano kasi kung drug rehab ang purpose at yun ang structural design tapos dahil di ma utilized sige pwede namn ibahin uli structural design pero gagastos tayo hindi ba sabi ko mga kung limited resources ng gobyerno yun gagastusin sa repair eh can be use for other projects kung sa umpisa pa lang eh napagplanuhan talaga at naisip di pala 10000 ang kailangan na capacity at dapat joint use ang purpose kaya ganun na agad ang plinano at pinatyo.

 

 

Pero more than that ang main issue is tama bang ipagsama ang rehab ng criminal at ng addict. Iyan ang gusto kong makuhang paglilinaw

Kaya nga sinabi ko i renovate para mahiwalay sila physically at hindi sila magkitakita. Malaki naman yung lagar para hatiin. Ang sa akin lang is nandyan na yun glugar eh, may infra nang naka set so imaximize na lang natin.

Kung hindi talaga nag click sa tao eh, kahit naman malalaking business may plans yan and studues pero may times din na hindi kinakagat ng mga tao. E paano kung condition ng nag donate ganyan ang ipagawa, isang malaking mega drug center para may legacy siya at nakapangalan sa kanya yung bldg. Ganyan kasi rin hilig ng mga Chinese na nakapangalan sa kanya yung isang malaking infra kasi siya ang nag pondo nito.

[Bolj]

I think the proper word is dislike not disappointed.

You never had hopes nor expectations on him to begin with when he became president to be disappointed.

Did you remember our gdp was over 7% within his second year in office? Were you happy then? Not a lot of people remember and make a big deal of that but many are ecstatic that we achieved 6.9% just recently under digong. Did anyone care to look into what he did solely for us to achieve that 6.9% ... lahat ba ng credit goes to him? could it be possible that yun iba naman ay mga programang ipinagpatuloy mula sa nakaraang admin?

What about the numerous credit rating upgrades we got during the term of the past admin bec of how they handled our fiscal and monetary policy that lead to a lower intetest rate scenario/environment? Dahil dito the business sector was able to take advantage of lower cost of money to finance expansions which help in the growth of the nation. Does anyone remembers? Pinansin ba ng masa yan in the first place?

Nope not dislike, its disappointed. No need to play word usage here.

 

We are clearly talking about those things that directly affect the ordinary people so that GDP isn't in the contention by any means.