Duterte's Presidency : Expectations, Controversies, Rants, Etc.

[tk421]

The current administration is a far cry from the inept past administration that you idolized.

 

It doesn't take to be a rocket scientist to figure out where all those garbage in Manila Bay are coming from -- the esteros and rivers flowing down Manila Bay.

 

The recent-clean up drive is only to show the people what it would be like if our waterways and shorelines are clean of pollutants and solid wastes

The part of Manila Bay they show in the pictures that they cleaned up is only a small portion. It remains to be seen if the rest of the bay area is as clear of garbage as they show.

 

As I said the question I posed cannot be answered at this time, we will only know the true answer once the May polls has passed, if this is something that they will sustain or it was just one of many publicity stunts to get more votes.

[camiar]

The part of Manila Bay they show in the pictures that they cleaned up is only a small portion. It remains to be seen if the rest of the bay area is as clear of garbage as they show.

 

As I said the question I posed cannot be answered at this time, we will only know the true answer once the May polls has passed, if this is something that they will sustain or it was just one of many publicity stunts to get more votes.

Yes, a small portion of the entire Manila Bay shoreline.

 

But look at the positive reaction of the people.

 

It reinforces their belief that Du30 can lead them to a better and cleaner Manila Baywalk just as effectively as Boracay achievement.

 

Boracay clean-up was done in holistic, total-system approach where the source of pollutants are addressed.

 

The people believe in the political will, competence, and leadership of the current administration to solve the problem.

 

That will translate into votes this coming May.

Edited February 11, 2019 by camiar

[tk421]

Yes...votes... that could just be what they’re after. What remains to be seen is the follow-through after the election. Will Manila Bay remain clean afterwards or will it come back to the way it was, as has been the cycle everytime the Bay gets “cleaned up”?

 

Another theory going around is that they may have cleaned it up in order to sell it to investors. That could be why PD transferred the power of approval of reclamation projects to his office.

[haroots2]

^Another ridiculous theory that only proves there are people would like the president fails in expense of the country para lang makabanat and makaupo yung preferred candidate nila. Ganyan din pinagsasabi nila before the cleanup of Boracay pero after the success no comment na lang, just waiting for another program that wanting to fail.

[camiar]

Yes...votes... that could just be what they’re after. What remains to be seen is the follow-through after the election. Will Manila Bay remain clean afterwards or will it come back to the way it was, as has been the cycle everytime the Bay gets “cleaned up”?

 

Another theory going around is that they may have cleaned it up in order to sell it to investors. That could be why PD transferred the power of approval of reclamation projects to his office.

 

Clean up the bay shore to sell it? The only person I know who would be gullible enough to buy any part of Manila Bay waters is you.

 

But a clean bay shore area would get the interest of property developers to join the urban renewal and redevelopment plan around Binondo, Ermita, Intramuros, Malate, Paco, Pandacan, Sta Mesa, Tondo, Port Area, the Bay Area all the way to Pasay and Cavite.

 

We're talking about a redevelopment plan on the national level. That is why the power of approval has to be elevated to the Office of the President.

 

The plan is to renew and redevelop Manila to make it again the center of trade, finance, commerce, and cultural heritage, fitting to it's being the country's Capital City.

 

The Bay Area in particular, is getting attention due to a memorandum of understanding (MoU) recently signed by the Philippine and Dutch governments seeking the sustainable development and management of the entire area. The clean-up drive is just one of the sustaining programs that is part of the Manila Bay Sustainable Development Master Plan.

 

TK, your ignorance is appalling. Mag-research ka naman para di ka palaging sablay sa mga banat mo.

Edited February 13, 2019 by camiar

[MykG2G]

 

Clean up the bay shore to sell it? The only person I know who would be gullible enough to buy any part of Manila Bay waters is you.

 

But a clean bay shore area would get the interest of property developers to join the urban renewal and redevelopment plan around Binondo, Ermita, Intramuros, Malate, Paco, Pandacan, Sta Mesa, Tondo, Port Area, the Bay Area all the way to Pasay and Cavite.

 

We're talking about a redevelopment plan on the national level. That is why the power of approval has to be elevated to the Office of the President.

 

The plan is to renew and redevelop Manila to make it again the center of trade, finance, commerce, and cultural heritage, fitting to it's being the country's Capital City.

 

The Bay Area in particular, is getting attention due to a memorandum of understanding (MoU) recently signed by the Philippine and Dutch governments seeking the sustainable development and management of the entire area. The clean-up drive is just one of the sustaining programs that is part of the Manila Bay Sustainable Development Master Plan.

 

TK, your ignorance is appalling. Mag-research ka naman para di ka palaging sablay sa mga banat mo.

 

 

The plan is to renew and redevelop Manila to make it again the center of trade, finance, commerce, and cultural heritage, fitting to it's being the country's Capital City." - you believe this? Lol.

 

When you have Local Chief is the like of Erap, it will never happen!

[tk421]

 

Clean up the bay shore to sell it? The only person I know who would be gullible enough to buy any part of Manila Bay waters is you.

 

But a clean bay shore area would get the interest of property developers to join the urban renewal and redevelopment plan around Binondo, Ermita, Intramuros, Malate, Paco, Pandacan, Sta Mesa, Tondo, Port Area, the Bay Area all the way to Pasay and Cavite.

 

We're talking about a redevelopment plan on the national level. That is why the power of approval has to be elevated to the Office of the President.

 

The plan is to renew and redevelop Manila to make it again the center of trade, finance, commerce, and cultural heritage, fitting to it's being the country's Capital City.

 

The Bay Area in particular, is getting attention due to a memorandum of understanding (MoU) recently signed by the Philippine and Dutch governments seeking the sustainable development and management of the entire area. The clean-up drive is just one of the sustaining programs that is part of the Manila Bay Sustainable Development Master Plan.

 

TK, your ignorance is appalling. Mag-research ka naman para di ka palaging sablay sa mga banat mo.

Sustainable development ba kamo thru reclamation? When all environment advocates agree it would be disastrous? Without proper research, theyve already approved numerous reclamation projects that havent even been reviewed by DENR yet. And theyve relegated the DENR to mere advisors to said projects.

 

Property developers to develop binondo, intramuros ba kamo? By building commercial areas and residential condos in cultural heritage sites? Obviously you lack the capacity to understand things beyond what your god tells you to.

[camiar]

 

 

The plan is to renew and redevelop Manila to make it again the center of trade, finance, commerce, and cultural heritage, fitting to it's being the country's Capital City." - you believe this? Lol.

 

When you have Local Chief is the like of Erap, it will never happen!

The plan will be implemented by the national government, not by the city mayor.

 

The Manila Bay Sustainable Development Master Plan is the National Government's plan. The approval authority in the implementation is the Office of the President.

 

Which part of the "...redevelopment plan on the national level..." did you fail to understand?

Edited February 13, 2019 by camiar

[camiar]

Sustainable development ba kamo thru reclamation? When all environment advocates agree it would be disastrous? Without proper research, theyve already approved numerous reclamation projects that havent even been reviewed by DENR yet. And theyve relegated the DENR to mere advisors to said projects.

 

Property developers to develop binondo, intramuros ba kamo? By building commercial areas and residential condos in cultural heritage sites? Obviously you lack the capacity to understand things beyond what your god tells you to.

Do you know the difference between the words I used: "urban renewal" and "redevelopment" vs. your words "reclamation"?

 

Do you know how to use Google to learn the meaning of those words? Better start learning how.

 

You're totally clueless about what's being discussed in this thread. You're a laughing stock of readers here. Maawa ka naman sa sarili mo.

[tk421]

Do you know the difference between the words I used: "urban renewal" and "redevelopment" vs. your words "reclamation"?

 

Do you know how to use Google to learn the meaning of those words? Better start learning how.

 

You're totally clueless about what's being discussed in this thread. You're a laughing stock of readers here. Maawa ka naman sa sarili mo.

Then youre the one who is out of context. You quoted my post and I was specifically referring to reclamation and it was that very phrase that you highlighted. If other people are talking about redevelopnent or renewal, take it up with them.

 

Butting in my topic and changing the context just to make it seem youre right is pathetic. Tsk tsk.

 

Back to the original train of thought: it remains to be seen if this is indeed based on a benevolent masterplan or if its just a product of a drinking session or if it just a way to generate good publicity for the upcoming elections.

[camiar]

Then youre the one who is out of context. You quoted my post and I was specifically referring to reclamation and it was that very phrase that you highlighted. If other people are talking about redevelopnent or renewal, take it up with them.

 

Butting in my topic and changing the context just to make it seem youre right is pathetic. Tsk tsk.

 

Back to the original train of thought: it remains to be seen if this is indeed based on a benevolent masterplan or if its just a product of a drinking session or if it just a way to generate good publicity for the upcoming elections.

Back read on your own posts and see for yourself. We were talking cleanup, not reclamation.

 

Bayshore clean up has nothing to do with reclamation. And reclamation has nothing to do with Manila's urban renewal and redevelopment. But the cleanup has sparked interest in urban renewal and redevelopment.

 

Aminin mo na. Hindi mo alam ang ibig sabihin ng "reclamatiion", "urban renewal", at "redevelopment".

 

The sooner you do that, the less you suffer.

Edited February 14, 2019 by camiar

[daphne loves derby]

Daming batas na bago, halos walang veto

 

[tk421]

Back read on your own posts and see for yourself. We were talking cleanup, not reclamation.

 

Bayshore clean up has nothing to do with reclamation. And reclamation has nothing to do with Manila's urban renewal and redevelopment. But the cleanup has sparked interest in urban renewal and redevelopment.

 

Aminin mo na. Hindi mo alam ang ibig sabihin ng "reclamatiion", "urban renewal", at "redevelopment".

 

The sooner you do that, the less you suffer.

 

Then you have trouble following the logic: let me give it to you more clearly.

 

Nilinis ang Manila Bay, papagandahin ito (dito papasok ang rehab, renewal, redevelopment mo). Ibebenta sa investors. Tapos gagawa ng reclamation dahil may buyer na nga dahil malinis na ang Bay. Then ibebenta yun reclaimed lands parang yun ginawa kung saan nakatayo ngayon ang mga Casino na pag aari ng Chinese.

 

Of course, isa lang ito sa possible scenerio.

[juan t]

Daming batas na bago, halos walang veto

 

 

 

Hindi natin problema ang kakulangan ng batas. Ang problema natin ay yung implementation at enforcement ng mga batas.

[daphne loves derby]

 

 

Hindi natin problema ang kakulangan ng batas. Ang problema natin ay yung implementation at enforcement ng mga batas.

 

idagdag mo pa ang edukasyon at disiplina ng bawat isa

[camiar]

 

Then you have trouble following the logic: let me give it to you more clearly.

 

Nilinis ang Manila Bay, papagandahin ito (dito papasok ang rehab, renewal, redevelopment mo). Ibebenta sa investors. Tapos gagawa ng reclamation dahil may buyer na nga dahil malinis na ang Bay. Then ibebenta yun reclaimed lands parang yun ginawa kung saan nakatayo ngayon ang mga Casino na pag aari ng Chinese.

 

Of course, isa lang ito sa possible scenerio.

 

anong pinagsasabi mong ibebenta sa investors? Ang investors ang gagawa ng renewal at redevelopment projects. The government will set the rules and guidelines on how to preserve the heritage sites and the compliance to zoning rules.

 

Ang reclamation projects, on the other hand ay "development", hindi "redevelopment".

 

Magkakaroon ng reclamation sa Sangley Point para sa new International Gateway Airport. Meron ding new city development planned on an area to be reclaimed near the Harbor area (hindi sa bay shore). Tatagal pa yan.

 

Mag-research ka kasi muna bago ka bumanat. Halatang di mo alam ang sinasalihan mong discussion. Palagay ko, base sa mga banat mo, di ka pa college level. Hindi puede ang Grade School student sa discussion dito.

[tk421]

 

anong pinagsasabi mong ibebenta sa investors? Ang investors ang gagawa ng renewal at redevelopment projects. The government will set the rules and guidelines on how to preserve the heritage sites and the compliance to zoning rules.

 

Ang reclamation projects, on the other hand ay "development", hindi "redevelopment".

 

Magkakaroon ng reclamation sa Sangley Point para sa new International Gateway Airport. Meron ding new city development planned on an area to be reclaimed near the Harbor area (hindi sa bay shore). Tatagal pa yan.

 

Mag-research ka kasi muna bago ka bumanat. Halatang di mo alam ang sinasalihan mong discussion. Palagay ko, base sa mga banat mo, di ka pa college level. Hindi puede ang Grade School student sa discussion dito.

 

Matuto ka kaya muna mag basa. Sinabi ko bang at the same time yun redevelopment at reclamation sa post ko?

 

People should seriously stop devolving to Duterte's IQ level...

[camiar]

 

Matuto ka kaya muna mag basa. Sinabi ko bang at the same time yun redevelopment at reclamation sa post ko?

 

People should seriously stop devolving to Duterte's IQ level...

 

First of all, you have already clearly proven to all of us reading your post that you don't know the difference between reclamation and redevelopment, until I pointed it out to you.

 

Now you resort to ad hominem because your ignorance got yourself cornered.

 

Try coming back after you graduate Grade 12. You're totally outclassed here.

[tk421]

Nope. I never equated redevelopment (improving on existing properties) with reclamation (creating new lands). Those two are clearly different.

 

But... enjoy your gaslighting, anyways.

[camiar]

Nope. I never equated redevelopment (improving on existing properties) with reclamation (creating new lands). Those two are clearly different.

 

But... enjoy your gaslighting, anyways.

Now you know. Good for you.

 

Learn and move on.

[daphne loves derby]

Universal Health Care Bill and Extended Maternity now certified laws

 

Another milestone in this presidency.

 

Extended Maternity Law 10 years in the making.

Edited February 21, 2019 by daphne loves derby

[camiar]

Universal Health Care Bill and Extended Maternity now certified laws

 

Another milestone in this presidency.

 

Extended Maternity Law 10 years in the making.

 

I have a few issues on the extended maternity leave (increased to 105 days):

1. 105 days is almost half of employee's total working days in a year. If an employer would have to choose between a male and a female job applicant, both of them in their prime reproductive age, and they have equal qualification and merits, it would make more sense to hire the male applicant on the basis of on-the-job availability alone. This law actually puts women in a less competitive position vs. men in the job market.
2. While on maternity leave, they are paid in SSS-designated pay rate. There are many cases where they are paid much less than their regular salaries.

But having said that, I guess family and children comes first. But at what price?

Edited February 22, 2019 by camiar

[Yoda18]

Universal Health Care Bill and Extended Maternity now certified laws

 

Another milestone in this presidency.

 

Extended Maternity Law 10 years in the making.

 

 

Add to this the Philippine sports training center bill as well which has always been neglected by the past administrations.

[haroots2]

 

I have a few issues on the extended maternity leave (increased to 105 days):

1. 105 days is almost half of employee's total working days in a year. If an employer would have to choose between a male and a female job applicant, both of them in their prime reproductive age, and they have equal qualification and merits, it would make more sense to hire the male applicant on the basis of on-the-job availability alone. This law actually puts women in a less competitive position vs. men in the job market.
2. While on maternity leave, they are paid in SSS-designated pay rate. There are many cases where they are paid much less than their regular salaries.

But having said that, I guess family and children comes first. But at what price?

 

In our office, they can come in early to work so they can also have a salary aside from the SSS money they got.

[daphne loves derby]

 

I have a few issues on the extended maternity leave (increased to 105 days):

1. 105 days is almost half of employee's total working days in a year. If an employer would have to choose between a male and a female job applicant, both of them in their prime reproductive age, and they have equal qualification and merits, it would make more sense to hire the male applicant on the basis of on-the-job availability alone. This law actually puts women in a less competitive position vs. men in the job market.
2. While on maternity leave, they are paid in SSS-designated pay rate. There are many cases where they are paid much less than their regular salaries.

But having said that, I guess family and children comes first. But at what price?

 

agreed on both points.

 

but in such industries like manufacturing, women are still the preferred employees/applicants. The ones that are affected now in this kind of industry are those "married" applicants because of this expanded maternity leave. But i guess, they earn it, after all in SEA, we are the only ones left giving only 60 days.

 

For the SSS maternity benefit, that would also mean additional cost for the employers.

 

But in reality, IMHO, women at work specially those who are in need will likely return to their jobs once they got clearance from their OB even without spending the entire 105 days.