Apo Marcos : Facts And Myths

JonKartero · January 11, 2022

On 12/17/2021 at 3:07 PM, lee sawyer said:

Speaking of recent history, has there been a presidential candidate who had a commanding lead like BBM's this early?

Nope. But BBM also had a commanding lead up until election day in 2016. We all saw what happened then.

lee sawyer · January 19, 2022

On 1/11/2022 at 2:42 PM, JonKartero said:

Nope. But BBM also had a commanding lead up until election day in 2016. We all saw what happened then.

A 5% lead in the surveys leading to election day isn't exactly commanding. You can label a 30%-40% lead, depending on which current survey you're looking at as commanding. Yes, we all saw what happened. Massive cheating and this is evidenced by the ongoing electoral protest.

lee sawyer · January 19, 2022

On 12/16/2021 at 12:09 PM, JonKartero said:

Even Publicius data (which is inherently ??? due to their use of "purposive sampling") shows a decrease of around 5% preference for Marcos and an equivalent increase for Robredo. All other candidates are have statistically negligible movement. It's a question of sustainability.

"Only covert intervention by foreign superpower(s) can derail the popular mandate." Uh, sure, if you say so.

" And you think BBM/Du30 camps don't know how to counter that?" Bold of you to assume that they are in fact on the same page. Then again your comment was made before Duterte and Go withdrew their respective candidacies. I'm sure you'll find a way to spin it and make it something positive for Marcos and Inday, so please go right on ahead.

Where did you get the 5% decrease for BBM? In Publicus Asia's 2021 Quarter 3 survey, BBM got a 49.3% survey rating and in the 2021 Quarter 4 survey, BBM's survey rating increased to 51.9% so that's a 2.6% increase. Meanwhile, Robredo got a 21.3% survey rating in the 2021 Quarter 3 survey and decreased to 20.2% in the 2021 Quarter 4 survey or a decrease of 1.1%. Where are you getting your figures?

Edited January 19, 2022 by lee sawyer

JonKartero · January 20, 2022

14 hours ago, lee sawyer said:

A 5% lead in the surveys leading to election day isn't exactly commanding. You can label a 30%-40% lead, depending on which current survey you're looking at as commanding. Yes, we all saw what happened. Massive cheating and this is evidenced by the ongoing electoral protest.

"Ongoing"

Um, tapos na yung electoral protest. Talo si Boingboing.

A complaint of cheating is not itself evidence of cheating. That's not how complaints work. Convictions that have achieved finality, however, is sufficient basis to say that a person is a criminal.

JonKartero · January 20, 2022

On 12/27/2021 at 3:05 PM, plug said:

Nang natapos ang term ni Abnoy natunaw din ang yellow kaya wala na rin. Mga basang papel na lang. Ang naiwan ay ang katotohanan na sila ang nagpalayas sa diktador. Bakit nga naman siya at kanyang pamilya ay palalayasin sa palasyong kanyang ipinagawa. Litong lito at wala sa matinong pagiisip kaya hindi niya akalain na sa Hawaii siya dinala. Kaya itong anak magtatangkang mabalik sa palasyong ipinagawa ng kanyang ama. History may repeats itself.

Ikuwento mo yan sa mga taong nilusob ang Malacanang habang umeeskapo si Marcos. Tignan mo kung di ka pagtawanan.

plug · January 20, 2022

Tallano gold? Dati naman may mining ang mga Marcoses. This is mine, that is mine, those are mine, these are mine.......

lee sawyer · January 22, 2022

On 1/20/2022 at 5:43 PM, JonKartero said:

"Ongoing"

Um, tapos na yung electoral protest. Talo si Boingboing.

A complaint of cheating is not itself evidence of cheating. That's not how complaints work. Convictions that have achieved finality, however, is sufficient basis to say that a person is a criminal.

And you actually believe the fake vice president will win with BBM having that kind of lead? Hahaha! But hey, if you think hopes springs eternal, so be it. Haha!

Natapos? Kelan? The last time I checked, there is still a motion for reconsideration.

The fact of the matter is the electoral protest is not done yet and until the PET declares Robredo the legitimately elected VP, her legitimacy is questionable at best.

Edited January 22, 2022 by lee sawyer

jimjim21 · February 10, 2022

Bbm lezzgo

neville · February 10, 2022

DQ cases dismissed by the COMELEC First Division.

Duel of Fate · February 10, 2022

1 hour ago, neville said:

DQ cases dismissed by the COMELEC First Division.

kahit anti BBM ako, wouldve been stupid for comelec to DQ him. pinatakbo nyo ng Gov and Senator tas idi-DQ nyo.

plus, doing so will make him a martyr. magcocomeback yon stronger for 2028 if ever.

Guanzon was off her rocker if taxation was a moral terpitude clause. esp by someone who doesnt really do his or her own taxes.

either way, if Bongbong or Leni wins, pag si Sara nanalo for VP expect a tumultuous presidency.

kilroy*was*here · March 16, 2022

Guanzon imo saw the clock ticking and fired off everything she could. Can't see anyone other than BBM or Leni winning, either.

Monsy · May 7, 2022

Well kahit sino manalo bantayan ng taong bayan. Kaya puro nakawan ang govt dahil di marunong magbantay ang tao. At maraming tanga na di natatandaan ang history.marahil dahil hindi din tinuro ng nakatatanda sa mga bata. At napakaraming mukhang pera na nagpapagamit.