We Are Awesome Thread

[punkee]

"I AM SORRY".

 

on national tv. what did she mean by that?

 

the neck brace off during her convenient dinner of fundraisers for Digong and off now that the verdict favored her. that doesnt tell you anything?

 

you really think she is clean?

[camiar]

"I AM SORRY".

 

on national tv. what did she mean by that?

 

the neck brace off during her convenient dinner of fundraisers for Digong and off now that the verdict favored her. that doesnt tell you anything?

 

you really think she is clean?

Yes.

[Edmund Dantes]

Dito naman sa thread na ito hehehe

 

http://www.rappler.com/nation/140718-duterte-signs-executive-order-freedom-of-information?utm_content=buffer61fd3&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

 

Ayan pirmado na FOI bill. Pero dahil hindi within 7 days bugok pa din si Duterte. Impeach Duterte nyahahahah

 

Anyway nakakaaliw lang pakinggan kasi yun mga araw araw nagdadasal sumablay ang administrasyon para pumunta lang dito at me maisumbat.

 

 

O dali sumbat na! Dali na! Anong sumbat nyo nanaman!!!

[haroots2]

Plus points dahil napirmahan

 

Stage 2- ano yung excemptions? Executive priviledge? Ibig sabihin di siya covered? Ganun ba yun? Hehehe

 

Negative assumptions agad.

[haroots2]

 

yan na ba ang sinasabi ko eh ... now killing is just but a statistics.

 

Hindi issue ang krimen na pumatay (which is different kung napatay sa legal na operasyon) as long as maliit na porsiyento lamang ito.

 

Well Duterte did declare war on drugs. May ultimatum pa nga. So in any kind of war may mamamatay talaga. If we are not in deep sh*t regarding drugs this won't happen anyways and we don't need Duterte to clean this up. Pinalala ito ng mga dating gobyerno at pinabayaan ng mamamayang pilipino kaya tayo mayroon ganitong kalalang problema sa droga. Now that it reach a saturation point cleaning it up on conventional means will not work anymore.

[punkee]

Yes.

Why am I not suprised? You have been consistent.

 

I guess she said I AM SORRY on national tv for nothing. really.

[punkee]

 

Yung mga sanctimoniously self-righteous, di talaga makaka move-on dito sa release order kay GMA.

 

But wait, There's more.

 

She may file a case against the Aquino government for restitution and compensation.

Republic Act 7309 of 1992 grants compensation for victims of unjust imprisonment or detention. “A person who was unjustly accused, convicted and imprisoned and subsequently released by virtue of a judgment of acquittal,” the law says, is one of the conditions for compensation grants.

One doesn't have to be sanctimoniously self-righteous (whew!) to disagree with the verdict. Common sense lang is needed and a desire to have less questionable characters in government.

 

Wala kasing nakita ang majority ng SC na may binulsa si GMA. Tama nga naman.

[rooster69ph]

 

Well Duterte did declare war on drugs. May ultimatum pa nga. So in any kind of war may mamamatay talaga. If we are not in deep sh*t regarding drugs this won't happen anyways and we don't need Duterte to clean this up. Pinalala ito ng mga dating gobyerno at pinabayaan ng mamamayang pilipino kaya tayo mayroon ganitong kalalang problema sa droga. Now that it reach a saturation point cleaning it up on conventional means will not work anymore.

 

intindihin ninyo nga ang issue ko at hindi depensa kayo ng depensa ...dahil paikot-ikot lang tayo.

 

uulitin ko wala akong issue sa napatay sa legal o legit na operasyon ... sangayon ako diyan

 

ang issue ko yun pagtaas ng krimen na pinalalabas ay parang kasama sa kampanya sa droga o yun mga pinalalabas na vigilante killings pati na rin vigilante killings dahil illegal ito. Kahit sabihin mong addict, kailan pa nagkaroon ng karapatan pumatay ang isang ordinaryong mamamayan ng addict o pusher ng naayon sa batas? Naging legal na siya ngayon dahil sinabi ni Duterte sagot niya sila?

[Edmund Dantes]

 

Well Duterte did declare war on drugs. May ultimatum pa nga. So in any kind of war may mamamatay talaga. If we are not in deep sh*t regarding drugs this won't happen anyways and we don't need Duterte to clean this up. Pinalala ito ng mga dating gobyerno at pinabayaan ng mamamayang pilipino kaya tayo mayroon ganitong kalalang problema sa droga. Now that it reach a saturation point cleaning it up on conventional means will not work anymore.

 

Lets wait and see kung ano muna gusto nyang sulusyun kasi. For someone who complains a lot, wala naman malinaw na sulusyon yun tao. Puro reklamo. Lahat naman ng sulusyon na isuggest mo ayaw, kulang, sablay.

 

So lets hear it muna from him

[Edmund Dantes]

rooster!

 

Inaantay ko pa din sulusyon na gusto mo. Panay ka reklamo sa patayan na yan. Lahat naman ng ialok sayong pamamaraan para tugunan ito sablay para sayo. We are waiting sa sulusyon na mas maganda mong maisu-suggest. Dali na.

[camiar]

One doesn't have to be sanctimoniously self-righteous (whew!) to disagree with the verdict. Common sense lang is needed and a desire to have less questionable characters in government.

 

Wala kasing nakita ang majority ng SC na may binulsa si GMA. Tama nga naman.

 

Sinabi nga ng Supreme Court, walang batayan ang mga paratang.

 

Supreme Court na ang nag-husga. It is the court of last appeal. Kung ano ang desisyon ng Korte Suprema, yun na. Final na.

 

Kung sa tingin mo mas marami kang common sense kesa sa Supreme Court, eh di wow.

 

Move on na kasi....

[rooster69ph]

walang sagot sa tanong ko si rooster69ph.

 

Yan na nga ba sinasabi eh. Madali mambatikos. Madali maghanap ng butas. Madali magreklamo. Pero pag hihingian mo naman ng sulusyon sa problema wala naman maisagot!

 

Ill say it. The cases of salvaging, vigilantism, and extra judicial killings is AN ISSUE, BUT NOT AS SERIOUS AS HOW THE MEDIA AND HUMAN RIGHTS ADVOCATES MAKE IT APPEAR TO BE. If one simply does the math, wala pang 1% sa mga drug personalities ang napapatay. The arrests and voluntary surrenders outweigh the number of killings.

 

Now ano kamo naging tugon ng PNP at law enforcement dito.

 

1. Nangako mga pulis na iimbestigahan mga kaso ng salvaging at papanagutin mga gumawa

2. Lahat ng operations ay documented naman, me SOCO pagkatapos, at me NAPOLCOM pa na pwede magimbestiga sa kapulisan

3. While the president has made aggressive statements, he also said he will not tolerate police officers who will abuse their authority

4. The PNP chief has repeatedly said extra judicial killings must stop

5. Them media is welcome to cover police operations, infact a reality show in partnership with the PNP formatted similar to the show "cops" from the US is being planned.

6. The CHR has been invited to witness police operations

7. New units of body cams for the raiding teams have been purchased, pero syempre hindi pa available ito sa buong bansa, but at least its on the works

8. The PNP will welcome any probes on police operations by any governing body

9. Bagong step, yun ibang lungsod nagsasama na ng Fiscal sa operation, kahit man lang dun sa pagkalap ng ebidensya para me transparency

 

O ayan. Ano pa kulang para matigil kayo kakareklamo?

 

Ayaw na sana kitang patulan dahil paikot-ikot lang tayo ... ayaw mong intindihin ang sinasabi ko kasi. so one last time.

 

Naghahanap ka ng sagot? Bakit wala ba sa SOP ng kapulisan ang sagot sa tanong mo kung ano ang dapat? It's a matter of following the rule of law or not. Pwede rin naman cover up kung tutuusin. Kung walang itinatago then issue ba ang mag tell all sa harap ng senado?

 

Nakakatawa ka naman at ang denominator mo is kasama yun mga kusang sumuko. Nakakapanliit nga naman ng numero.

 

Now all you've been yakking about are "solutions" on legitimate operations....sa tingin mo kung gagawa at gagawa ng katarantaduhan ang pulis gagawin niya yan in broad daylight yun tipong may mata/camerang nakasubaybay. Use your common sense please ... and yet lahat ba ng police operations kayang may sumamang CHR/Press? Pwedeng sabihin unplanned operation ito at nagkataoon nakita ang suspect na nun huhuliin nanalaban di po ba? But then sasabihin mo naninira lang ako. AMEN.

 

 

Hindi mo pa rin ba naiintindihan ang pinupunto ko? Alam kong may legit at di legit operations. I have no problems on legit operations. What about those illegitimate operations or baka talagang krimen na hindi related na pinalalabas lang ng gumawa na drug related para ma-divert?

 

Kaninang umaga lang may nabalita dating pusher pinatay. Hindi ito legitimate police operations, walang labanan nangyari, pero itinumba lang ng riding in tandem, Is this drug related or not we both don't know. But definitely not a police operation if you ask me. Ngayon yan solusyon mo ang sabihin mo sa pamilya nun napatay kung katanggap-tanggap.

 

Yun pinatay na iniwan sa isang di mataong lugar a few days/weeks ago may isa na naman naitapon sa parehon lugar ayon sa balita last night. Police suspect na baka iisang lang ang gumawa ng krimen dahil same style ...may karatula at nakatali. Are these legit operations? Are these covered by the solutions you mentioned? These figures are on the rise right? And yet are these merely "collateral damage"?

 

My point is this ... don't tell me these are merely collateral damage. We both agree that some of these cases maybe involve higher ups in the PNP or big time syndicates and should not be treated as simply "good riddance" kasi addict o pusher naman. These crimes could actually lead to catching the bigger fish.

 

Sometimes, we are too fixated with the numbers...but there are instances that what matters most is not the quantity but the quality.

Edited July 27, 2016 by rooster69ph

[Edmund Dantes]

 

Ayaw na sana kitang patulan dahil paikot-ikot lang tayo ... ayaw mong intindihin ang sinasabi ko kasi. so one last time.

 

Naghahanap ka ng sagot? Bakit wala ba sa SOP ng kapulisan ang sagot sa tanong mo kung ano ang dapat? It's a matter of following the rule of law or not. Pwede rin naman cover up kung tutuusin. Kung walang itinatago then issue ba ang mag tell all sa harap ng senado?

 

Nakakatawa ka naman at ang denominator mo is kasama yun mga kusang sumuko. Nakakapanliit nga naman ng numero.

 

Now all you've been yakking about are "solutions" on legitimate operations....sa tingin mo kung gagawa at gagawa ng katarantaduhan ang pulis gagawin niya yan in broad daylight yun tipong may mata/camerang nakasubaybay. Use your common sense please ... and yet lahat ba ng police operations kayang may sumamang CHR/Press? Pwedeng sabihin unplanned operation ito at nagkataoon nakita ang suspect na nun huhuliin nanalaban di po ba? But then sasabihin mo naninira lang ako. AMEN.

 

 

Hindi mo pa rin ba naiintindihan ang pinupunto ko? Alam kong may legit at di legit operations. I have no problems on legit operations. What about those illegitimate operations or baka talagang krimen na hindi related na pinalalabas lang ng gumawa na drug related para ma-divert?

 

Kaninang umaga lang may nabalita dating pusher pinatay. Hindi ito legitimate police operations, walang labanan nangyari, pero itinumba lang ng riding in tandem, Is this drug related or not we both don't know. But definitely not a police operation if you ask me. Ngayon yan solusyon mo ang sabihin mo sa pamilya nun napatay kung katanggap-tanggap.

 

Yun pinatay na iniwan sa isang di mataong lugar a few days/weeks ago may isa na naman naitapon sa parehon lugar ayon sa balita last night. Police suspect na baka iisang lang ang gumawa ng krimen dahil same style ...may karatula at nakatali. Are these legit operations? Are these covered by the solutions you mentioned? These figures are on the rise right? And yet are these merely "collateral damage"?

 

My point is this ... don't tell me these are merely collateral damage. We both agree that some of these cases maybe involve higher ups in the PNP or big time syndicates and should not be treated as simply "good riddance" kasi addict o pusher naman. These crimes could actually lead to catching the bigger fish.

 

Sometimes, we are too fixated with the numbers...but there are instances that what matters most is not the quantity but the quality.

 

Ikaw ang nagpapaikot lang ng usapan. Kasimple simple tinatanong sayo, kung ano ano na sinabi mo. Tinatanong ka namin kung ano bang sulusyon gusto mo para tugunan yun problema ng mga kaso na napapatay sa kadudadudang paraan. Yun lang! Me quality over quantity ka pa na nalalaman.

 

But thank you for proving my point! You do not have any solution yourself to the problem! Its that simple! Now take note boys and girls this is the difference between whinning and complaining.

 

Ngayon me excuse naman na di makakasama CHR at media. Aysus, sorry kelangan pala itiming ng PNP na tama sa schedule nila pagraid para naman makasama sila.

 

Sino ba nagtatago sa senado? Ang sinasabi ko, kung interesado senado imbestigahan kaso ng extra judicial killings na yan, di yun mismong operation at operatives tignan nila. Sila mas makakabigay ng factual basis sa mismong kaso! Parang kung medical malpractice yan, yun doctor ang tawagin mo at imbestighan. Bat mo iimbestigahan Sec. Of health?

 

tsaka in aid of legislation lang naman ang senado di ba? Hindi naman nila mapapanagot me sala. lol. Ano bang batas gusto mo kasi gawin ng senado tungkol dyan? Ay huwag na nga, wala ka naman isasagot sigurado

 

At oo, yan talaga sasabihin ko sa biktima. Magfile kayo ng tamang reklamo. Kasi kung puro ngawa tulad ng ginagawa mo, eh wala tayong masusulusyonan.

 

If you can not present a clear and specific solution to the problem, then why do you even bother whinning about it?

[rooster69ph]

 

 

If you can not present a clear and specific solution to the problem, then why do you even bother whinning about it?

 

 

Paulit -ulit na ako iba pa rin pinupunto mo... hayz ang solusyon ay sa tamang pagpapatupad ng batas. kung gagawa at gagawa ng kababalaghan dahil sa may basbas, magagawa pa rin yan.

 

So sino ang magfa-file ng reklamo yun patay na? sabi mo nga diba walang umaangkin ng bangkay.

 

Besides, hindi ba alam ng kapulisan na krimen ang may pumatay sa isang addict na hindi naman police operation? Bakit kailangan pang may magreklamo para umaklsiyon?

 

 

 

anyway on what you said above ... if that's the case then,

 

so the poor should not bother whining about being poor if they don't have any solution to their problem pala. But if they have, they they wouldn't be poor and whining now. LOL

Edited July 27, 2016 by rooster69ph

[Edmund Dantes]

 

 

Paulit -ulit na ako iba pa rin pinupunto mo... hayz ang solusyon ay sa tamang pagpapatupad ng batas. kung gagawa at gagawa ng kababalaghan dahil sa may basbas, magagawa pa rin yan.

 

So sino ang magfa-file ng reklamo yun patay na? sabi mo nga diba walang umaangkin ng bangkay.

 

Besides, hindi ba alam ng kapulisan na krimen ang may pumatay sa isang addict na hindi naman police operation? Bakit kailangan pang may magreklamo para umaklsiyon?

 

 

 

anyway on what you said above ... if that's the case then,

 

so the poor should not bother whining about being poor if they don't have any solution to their problem pala. But if they have, they they wouldn't be poor and whining now. LOL

 

Aysus, sige palusot pa more! Hahahahaha. Napakaspecific yun tanong na binigay sayo di ba? Anong sulusyon na gusto mo para tugunan yun problema ng mga "inaaakla" mong paglampas sa hanganan ng autoridad? Bibigyan mo ako ng napaka general at walang katuturang sagot na ipatupad ng tama batas. Di ba ang pinaguusapan natin dito yun specific na problema ng extra judicial killings? Di ba sabi mo walang kwenta lahat ng hakabng ng PNP. GIVE US A SPECIFIC SOLUTION THEN.

 

Anong pagpapatupad ba ng batas na gusto mo? Pag e nasalvage eh di imbestigahan para mahanap yun gumawa nito. Ano pang kulang dun? Sampahan ng reklamo kung me mahanap na ebidensya. Aysus.

 

Kung patay na bikitima, di yun kamaganak? Yun CHR? Ano ba, nakaklimutan na ata gamitin ang common sense eh.

 

Yes the poor should just shut up kung puro reklamo na pero wala naman maihain na mas maayos na sulusyon para tugunan problema nila. Kaya nga, there is a difference between whining and complaining. If you complain about a problem, present a better solution.

 

Which you can't, because you have none!

 

You remind me of that typical guy in a crisis meeting who does nothing but whine all the time. Humahaba na meeting, lahat hindi pa nakakakain, lahat naman ng pwedeng sulusyon binibigay na, panay pa din reklamo na kulang o mali yun sulusyon, pero ni mas magandang suggestion wala naman maibigay.