Dc And Marvel Universe

[andrean48]

I spent my lunch break time in Robinson's Place.

 

I kinda enter Comics Odyssey store. To my surprise there were a lot of old school Comics being sold.

 

Also I saw new titles. New titles in which I'm not really familiar. What is the story behind the Fallen Son; Death of Captain America. Then there were a lot of Super heroes. Death of Captain America for Spiderman, then another Death of Captain of America for another super hero.

 

What is also the difference between Xman and Xmen, and Fantastic 4 and Fantastic 5.

[revi]

Also I saw new titles. New titles in which I'm not really familiar. What is the story behind the Fallen Son; Death of Captain America. Then there were a lot of Super heroes. Death of Captain America for Spiderman, then another Death of Captain of America for another super hero.

 

What is also the difference between Xman and Xmen, and Fantastic 4 and Fantastic 5.

 

Captain America (as we all know) died in issue #25.. The Fallen Son series were events after his death.. Events from Wolverine (Fallen Son: Chapter One), Avengers (Chapter Two), Captain America (Chapter Three) - Hawkeye played Cap, Spider Man (Chapter Four) and Iron Man (Chapter Five)..

 

Now, with XMan and XMen.. Well, for one, XMen is an on-going monthly series from Marvel.. While XMan has been already cut (medyo matagal-tagal na).. XMan is the son of Scott Summers (Cyclops) and Jean Grey from an alternate future.. His genes were controlled and manipulated by Mr. Sinister.. He came about after the events in the Age of Apocalypse event in the Mutant Universe of Marvel (mid 90's).. Forgot the storyline eh.. His name is Nate Grey.. He is already dead..

 

Fantastic Four is within the Marvel continuity.. While, Fantastic Five is part of an alternate universe of Marvel called MC2 (short for Marvel Comics 2).. Much like the ultimates or the what if scenarios.. The fantastic five is composed of the Human Torch, Psi Lord (Franklin Richards), the Thing, Lyja Storm (wife of the Torch - a skrull) also called Ms. Fantastic and Big Brain (a robot versio of ol stretcho)..

Edited August 1, 2007 by revi

[rdaq97]

Captain America (as we all know) died in issue #25.. The Fallen Son series were events after his death.. Events from Wolverine (Fallen Son: Chapter One), Avengers (Chapter Two), Captain America (Chapter Three) - Hawkeye played Cap, Spider Man (Chapter Four) and Iron Man (Chapter Five)..

 

Now, with XMan and XMen.. Well, for one, XMen is an on-going monthly series from Marvel.. While XMan has been already cut (medyo matagal-tagal na).. XMan is the son of Scott Summers (Cyclops) and Jean Grey from an alternate future.. His genes were controlled and manipulated by Mr. Sinister.. He came about after the events in the Age of Apocalypse event in the Mutant Universe of Marvel (mid 90's).. Forgot the storyline eh.. His name is Nate Grey.. He is already dead..

 

Fantastic Four is within the Marvel continuity.. While, Fantastic Five is part of an alternate universe of Marvel called MC2 (short for Marvel Comics 2).. Much like the ultimates or the what if scenarios.. The fantastic five is composed of the Human Torch, Psi Lord (Franklin Richards), the Thing, Lyja Storm (wife of the Torch - a skrull) also called Ms. Fantastic and Big Brain (a robot versio of ol stretcho)..

 

This is an example of Marvel's excellent job of managing continuities. You can actually explain which happened in what universe. Hindi convoluted yung storylines. People may hate Joe Q but I daresay he does a better job than Dan Didio in terms of dictating the way storylines go in their respective comic companies.

[Larry]

another great thing about Marvel now, is they're not afraid to shake things up

 

DC's countdown was good, but nothing really seemed to change.

 

Marvel on the other hand:

 

1) Killed Captain America - a definite A lister, and it looks like he won't be coming back soon.

 

2) Transformed The Hulk into a warrior king bent on destroying Earth, instead of just some brainless maniac jumping around in Nevada

 

3) Outed Spider Man

 

4) Outed Daredevil

 

5) Transformed Ironman into an unredeemable villain - another A lister, can you imagine DC doing the same thing to Batman? (who is the Ironman of DC)

 

6) Reduced the total number of mutants to 198

 

etc.

 

I hope they keep this up, it's nice to see the status quo challenged and see writers take risks just to keep the stories fresh.

[rdaq97]

another great thing about Marvel now, is they're not afraid to shake things up

 

DC's countdown was good, but nothing really seemed to change.

 

Marvel on the other hand:

 

1) Killed Captain America - a definite A lister, and it looks like he won't be coming back soon.

 

2) Transformed The Hulk into a warrior king bent on destroying Earth, instead of just some brainless maniac jumping around in Nevada

 

3) Outed Spider Man

 

4) Outed Daredevil

 

5) Transformed Ironman into an unredeemable villain - another A lister, can you imagine DC doing the same thing to Batman? (who is the Ironman of DC)

 

6) Reduced the total number of mutants to 198

 

etc.

 

I hope they keep this up, it's nice to see the status quo challenged and see writers take risks just to keep the stories fresh.

 

Yes a lot of things are changing in the Marvel U.

 

Don't forget the Skrulls are about to become major players in the Marvel U too.

 

The way things are shaping, Winter Soldier will take over as Cap. but I don't know if things are set in stone yet.

 

Hulk is definitely cooler now than he used to be. I liked it when he got smart but I like this incarnation even better.

 

I think Ironman will be revealed as a Skrull. they were hinting at that in the New Avengers storyline when they revealed Elektra to have been replaced by a Skrull warrior. and not to mention Jessica Drew's baby was also hinted to be a Skrull.

 

And this is what's made Marvel so successful over the years. DC keeps on leaning on their A List heroes. I think Bats is the only interesting character they have. Superman is nice but he's boring sometimes. Although the JLA stories seem to be pretty good, they need to establish some sort of consistency.

[TidusJanus]

The Skrull twist may not be farfetched. I think Marvel's planning another Skrull storyline. That Kree-Skrull storyline was, IMO, lame. edit: ok, just saw it on Wikipedia. The Skrull event is scheduled for 2008.

 

 

I hope they come up with more great events. I think the upcoming event for X-Men will be a great one. I read that Mr. Sinister will be playing a major role. weeee... I just love the guy. He's the best villain in my book.

Edited August 2, 2007 by TidusJanus

[Larry]

I think Ironman will be revealed as a Skrull.

 

if JQ does this

 

i will gut him

[rdaq97]

The Skrull twist may not be farfetched. I think Marvel's planning another Skrull storyline. That Kree-Skrull storyline was, IMO, lame. edit: ok, just saw it on Wikipedia. The Skrull event is scheduled for 2008.

I hope they come up with more great events. I think the upcoming event for X-Men will be a great one. I read that Mr. Sinister will be playing a major role. weeee... I just love the guy. He's the best villain in my book.

 

yep. the skrull event will pick up after World War Hulk i think although I'm not sure.

 

I just heard that countdown has been renamed to Countdown to Final Crisis.

 

FINAL?! really?

 

if JQ does this

 

i will gut him

 

 

well i may hate Ironman but all things considered, he's more interesting now as Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. but you have to wonder how long his tenure will be considering Nick Fury is still out there. Somehow I think Fury will have a major role in the upcoming Skrull storyline.

[andrean48]

Sorry, what is a skrull?

[rdaq97]

Sorry, what is a skrull?

 

green alien baddies who can shape shift. they are sworn enemies of the kree.

 

they played a significant role in annihilation if you've read it. (i haven't sorry)

 

most earthlings with heightened senses (a.k.a. wolverine, spidey) can usually detect disguised skrulls but according to the latest developments, di na sila ganun. they haven't explained why that is.

[orionpax]

they cant sniff out skrulls anymore?

 

BTW.. the FF2 movie wherein Johnny used the FF4 other abilities reminds me of the Super Skrull

 

green alien baddies who can shape shift. they are sworn enemies of the kree.

 

they played a significant role in annihilation if you've read it. (i haven't sorry)

 

most earthlings with heightened senses (a.k.a. wolverine, spidey) can usually detect disguised skrulls but according to the latest developments, di na sila ganun. they haven't explained why that is.

[hajime]

they cant sniff out skrulls anymore?

 

Apparently not. Since it was revealed that there was a skrull in their team (New Avengers) working right under their noses. Wolverine and Spiderman seemed to have no idea.

 

Unless they're skrulls too, since that would explain why they're featured in almost all of Marvels titles.

[khumpleetist]

if JQ does this

 

i will gut him

 

The Skrull concept is a real bold way to play out w/Iron Man but I think it would really hurt so much more. IM is now elevated to his current status just to be played out his a Skrull after a major event (Civil War)? C'mon!

[rdaq97]

they cant sniff out skrulls anymore? :DBTW.. the FF2 movie wherein Johnny used the FF4 other abilities reminds me of the Super Skrull

no they can't sniff out skrulls anymore. but you'll remember in Civil War Frontline, genetic alteration of Skrulls was one of the many subplots for Civil War. So the hints were there even then.

Apparently not. Since it was revealed that there was a skrull in their team (New Avengers) working right under their noses. Wolverine and Spiderman seemed to have no idea. Unless they're skrulls too, since that would explain why they're featured in almost all of Marvels titles.

nah. i think wolvie and spidey are just the most marketable characters in the Marvel U. Marvel will ride their asses to the bank as much as they can. it's business. personally, i think spidey and wolvie give the new avengers title a boost. that's why there are more avengers fans now because there are so many interesting heavyweights on the team.

The Skrull concept is a real bold way to play out w/Iron Man but I think it would really hurt so much more. IM is now elevated to his current status just to be played out his a Skrull after a major event (Civil War)? C'mon!

Let me just reiterate my hate for Iron Man. but I definitely agree, revealing him to be a Skrull will be a disappointing move to say the least. I like how they play him as an amalgam of bad/good/neutral. The fact that I want him to die is a sign that his character is very well written.

they cant sniff out skrulls anymore? :DBTW.. the FF2 movie wherein Johnny used the FF4 other abilities reminds me of the Super Skrull

no they can't sniff out skrulls anymore. but you'll remember in Civil War Frontline, genetic alteration of Skrulls was one of the many subplots for Civil War. So the hints were there even then.

Apparently not. Since it was revealed that there was a skrull in their team (New Avengers) working right under their noses. Wolverine and Spiderman seemed to have no idea. Unless they're skrulls too, since that would explain why they're featured in almost all of Marvels titles.

nah. i think wolvie and spidey are just the most marketable characters in the Marvel U. Marvel will ride their asses to the bank as much as they can. it's business. personally, i think spidey and wolvie give the new avengers title a boost. that's why there are more avengers fans now because there are so many interesting heavyweights on the team.

The Skrull concept is a real bold way to play out w/Iron Man but I think it would really hurt so much more. IM is now elevated to his current status just to be played out his a Skrull after a major event (Civil War)? C'mon!

Let me just reiterate my hate for Iron Man. but I definitely agree, revealing him to be a Skrull will be a disappointing move to say the least. I like how they play him as an amalgam of bad/good/neutral. The fact that I want him to die is a sign that his character is very well written.

[revi]

The Skrull concept is a real bold way to play out w/Iron Man but I think it would really hurt so much more. IM is now elevated to his current status just to be played out his a Skrull after a major event (Civil War)? C'mon!

 

Have to agree with you, bro..

 

I would really hate Marvel (again), if the Skrull storyline would just destroy what they have done in Civil War.. Maybe its to save Iron Man's character (as a lot of fans, do hate him nowadays).. But I sincerely hope that the storyline would not suck..

 

Coz if it does, mawawalan na naman ng interes ang mga nagbabasa.. Much like what they did to the clone saga of Spiderman.. Its as if the other storylines became all lies and deceptions.. The essence of the past storylines just faded away..

Edited August 6, 2007 by revi