Falling For A Therapist - Merged Thread

[BRAIN FOR HIRE]

Met this Thera, who was rather intelligent and is graduating from her course, she got into the trade to put her sister through school as well as herself. She related to me her experience with a guest who got "obsessed" with her and made posts on FB about her for all and sundry to see. She was thankfully able to limit the damage, but she was quite upset. She says that there are times she goes home feeling "laspag" and cries through the night while reviewing for class the next day. She says she has turned down propositions to "house" her since she would rather be independent but miserable than being in a gilded cage. Interesting.

[temurlenk]

Met this Thera, who was rather intelligent and is graduating from her course, she got into the trade to put her sister through school as well as herself. She related to me her experience with a guest who got "obsessed" with her and made posts on FB about her for all and sundry to see. She was thankfully able to limit the damage, but she was quite upset. She says that there are times she goes home feeling "laspag" and cries through the night while reviewing for class the next day. She says she has turned down propositions to "house" her since she would rather be independent but miserable than being in a gilded cage. Interesting.

Yup, madaming ganyan and we shouldn't judge them for their choice of profession, Madaming factors at iba ibang dahilan ang nagtulak sa kanila para pumasok sa ganyang industria. The trouble is, the kind of experience they go through can have a huge emotional toll on them and it takes a special kind of understanding and patience to be able to have a succesful relationship with them. Hindi lang yan pera pera, on the other hand hindi rin enough ang love.

[thespywhoshags]

Sometimes, no not sometimes. Always! The problem of the industry, are lonely and defeated men. Lonely and defeated in a way that they can't do the "Messiah complex" thing they do for theras with mature, independent, and financially capable women.

[thespywhoshags]

Many years ago before spas sprouted everywhere, MPs were the main option if you wanted release.

 

It was in this environment where I met a girl, at that time just about a month in the industry. We clicked and hit it off and eventually became a couple. After a while, she said our intimate moments were guilt-filled as just a few hours she spent time with random strangers for a fee.

 

So she quit and I was ready to support her financially. After all, she needs an alternative to her lost income. To my surprise, she didn't ask for money--instead she worked as an admin in some company. Work was hard and pay was low, but she was happy. And our intimate moments were more intense as there was no more guilt.

 

It is easy to be cynical about women in the spa or MP industry. And rightly so. There are so many hustlers out there with their own brand of drama, but there are a still a decent few. The challenge is finding these "few."

Sir Dibdba, if it's not the thera then its the client with the issue. Lonely and defeated men.

[Edmund Dantes]

Met this Thera, who was rather intelligent and is graduating from her course, she got into the trade to put her sister through school as well as herself. She related to me her experience with a guest who got "obsessed" with her and made posts on FB about her for all and sundry to see. She was thankfully able to limit the damage, but she was quite upset. She says that there are times she goes home feeling "laspag" and cries through the night while reviewing for class the next day. She says she has turned down propositions to "house" her since she would rather be independent but miserable than being in a gilded cage. Interesting.

 

Tama yun. Its a smart decision if you will ask me. Kasi ganun ka pa din naman pag binahay ka eh. Pagaari ka na ng iba. Ano kakalabasan mo? Kabit? Eh kung maeskandalo ka pa ng pamilya nung lalake, for sure talo ka. Isa pa, what if the guy turns out to be an abusive jerk? Tsaka papano ka kakalas ngayon kung napakalaki ng utang na loob mo dun sa lalake. Tama nga naman, magiging pagaari at alipin ka lang. Eh di mas mabuti pa na ikaw na lang mismo pagsumikapan mo na maialis sarili mo dyan, that way makakaumpisa ka ng bagong buhay on your own terms. Ng hindi mo kinakailangan isipin utang mo sa prince charming mo sana. This is why I don't support the idea na lalake dapat maglabas sa babae sa ganitong hanapbuhay. Its a romantic idea that works best on a screenplay, but it will not really give you that much freedom. You are just trading shackles

 

 

Yup, madaming ganyan and we shouldn't judge them for their choice of profession, Madaming factors at iba ibang dahilan ang nagtulak sa kanila para pumasok sa ganyang industria. The trouble is, the kind of experience they go through can have a huge emotional toll on them and it takes a special kind of understanding and patience to be able to have a succesful relationship with them. Hindi lang yan pera pera, on the other hand hindi rin enough ang love.

 

Eto sana bukas isip ng magbabasa. Para kasi sakin, kahit ano pa dahilan, problema o hinaharap, pwede kang mabuhay ng parehas kung talagang gugustuhin mo. Di mo naman kelangan ibenta sarili mo at isakripisyo yung dignidad mo. I knew this single mom who works almost 3 to 4 jobs to make both ends meet pwera pa sidelines. Diskarte lang talaga at sakripisyo. Halos 3 hours na lang tinutulog nung tao. May itsura naman sya and her friends invited her to try escorting kahit mga ilang labas lang, pero talagang ayaw nya. Kaming mga kaibigan nya, lagi kami tumutulong naman sa pangangailangan nya. Kahit di na nga binabayaran ok lang. Ayun napagtapos naman sarili nya.

 

Sometimes, no not sometimes. Always! The problem of the industry, are lonely and defeated men. Lonely and defeated in a way that they can't do the "Messiah complex" thing they do for theras with mature, independent, and financially capable women.

 

That is why, you should never go to these places to deal with whatever issues you have. You should never be with this women if you feel emotionally vulnerable. Makikita natin sa mga thread, ang advice ng mga GM pag brokenhearted, pumunta sa mga ganitong lugar para magparaos. IMO, this is the worst advice you can give a guy na depressed kasi nga emotionally vulnerable sila. Lets forget for one second na kasama sa trabaho nila mangbola, lets forget the reality that some are really hustlers. Lets say OK mabait yung babae. Pero what happens when she can't make the guy emotionally secure sa nature ng trabaho nya? O di panibagong cycle nanaman ng depression na mas malalala? And what does it solve? Wala

 

Sex is something you should enjoy when you have that manly confidence di ba?

 

Kaya nga yung isang katropa, simple lang ang rule nya. Never ever hire the same attendant twice. He does not even bother getting their number.

[temurlenk]

 

Tama yun. Its a smart decision if you will ask me. Kasi ganun ka pa din naman pag binahay ka eh. Pagaari ka na ng iba. Ano kakalabasan mo? Kabit? Eh kung maeskandalo ka pa ng pamilya nung lalake, for sure talo ka. Isa pa, what if the guy turns out to be an abusive jerk? Tsaka papano ka kakalas ngayon kung napakalaki ng utang na loob mo dun sa lalake. Tama nga naman, magiging pagaari at alipin ka lang. Eh di mas mabuti pa na ikaw na lang mismo pagsumikapan mo na maialis sarili mo dyan, that way makakaumpisa ka ng bagong buhay on your own terms. Ng hindi mo kinakailangan isipin utang mo sa prince charming mo sana. This is why I don't support the idea na lalake dapat maglabas sa babae sa ganitong hanapbuhay. Its a romantic idea that works best on a screenplay, but it will not really give you that much freedom. You are just trading shackles

 

 

 

Eto sana bukas isip ng magbabasa. Para kasi sakin, kahit ano pa dahilan, problema o hinaharap, pwede kang mabuhay ng parehas kung talagang gugustuhin mo. Di mo naman kelangan ibenta sarili mo at isakripisyo yung dignidad mo. I knew this single mom who works almost 3 to 4 jobs to make both ends meet pwera pa sidelines. Diskarte lang talaga at sakripisyo. Halos 3 hours na lang tinutulog nung tao. May itsura naman sya and her friends invited her to try escorting kahit mga ilang labas lang, pero talagang ayaw nya. Kaming mga kaibigan nya, lagi kami tumutulong naman sa pangangailangan nya. Kahit di na nga binabayaran ok lang. Ayun napagtapos naman sarili nya.

 

 

That is why, you should never go to these places to deal with whatever issues you have. You should never be with this women if you feel emotionally vulnerable. Makikita natin sa mga thread, ang advice ng mga GM pag brokenhearted, pumunta sa mga ganitong lugar para magparaos. IMO, this is the worst advice you can give a guy na depressed kasi nga emotionally vulnerable sila. Lets forget for one second na kasama sa trabaho nila mangbola, lets forget the reality that some are really hustlers. Lets say OK mabait yung babae. Pero what happens when she can't make the guy emotionally secure sa nature ng trabaho nya? O di panibagong cycle nanaman ng depression na mas malalala? And what does it solve? Wala

 

Sex is something you should enjoy when you have that manly confidence di ba?

 

Kaya nga yung isang katropa, simple lang ang rule nya. Never ever hire the same attendant twice. He does not even bother getting their number.

Well, we definitely can't stop all of them from entering this age-old industry and many of them don't know any better or don't have any support from friends or have friends like you. Lalo na pagnakatikim na sila nung kita at nabibili na nila ung gusto nila para sa kanila at pamilya nila, it's all just a means to an end for them. Some people and even whole cultures have different perceptions on morality especially when it comes to the sex industry. In Thailand, one of the most prolific in terms of ladies working in clubs and spas, they are not ashamed of it. In fact, according to their religion which is Buddhism, even if they work in the sex trade they can still gain good karma or "merit" as long as they do it for their parents and family. Magtataka ka, because many of them are university graduates and have worked in multinational companies BUT they say they sacrifice themselves to have a higher income for their family in this lifetime so that in the next one they will be reborn with better lives. But when they marry, they quit, and ultimately for many of them, they live normal lives. It's not like they don't have a choice, yes they do, everyone has a choice. Sa Pinas at sa madaming lugar, pag pera na ang issue at pano kumita ng mabilisan hindi rin ganon kadami ang options lalo na sa madaming probinsya, or gaya nung sa Thailand nagkaron pa sila ng lusot na hindi immoral at hindi masama ang ginagawa nila.

[Edmund Dantes]

Well, we definitely can't stop all of them from entering this age-old industry and many of them don't know any better or don't have any support from friends or have friends like you. Lalo na pagnakatikim na sila nung kita at nabibili na nila ung gusto nila para sa kanila at pamilya nila, it's all just a means to an end for them. Some people and even whole cultures have different perceptions on morality especially when it comes to the sex industry. In Thailand, one of the most prolific in terms of ladies working in clubs and spas, they are not ashamed of it. In fact, according to their religion which is Buddhism, even if they work in the sex trade they can still gain good karma or "merit" as long as they do it for their parents and family. Magtataka ka, because many of them are university graduates and have worked in multinational companies BUT they say they sacrifice themselves to have a higher income for their family in this lifetime so that in the next one they will be reborn with better lives. But when they marry, they quit, and ultimately for many of them, they live normal lives. It's not like they don't have a choice, yes they do, everyone has a choice. Sa Pinas at sa madaming lugar, pag pera na ang issue at pano kumita ng mabilisan hindi rin ganon kadami ang options lalo na sa madaming probinsya, or gaya nung sa Thailand nagkaron pa sila ng lusot na hindi immoral at hindi masama ang ginagawa nila.

 

Well it is what it is. Its not a pretty business. It takes a toll on you, and its well.... for a lack of better word to describe it.... dirty. Surely wala naman sigurong babae na ito pinangarap pasukin. Kapit ito sa patalim. Hindi ko kinukutya o hinuhusgahan ang mga babaeng pumapasok sa ganitong trabaho. Hinid ko rin naman sinasabi na talagang masama sila. Ang sakin lang, tama ka na many of them don't know any better. Na kung talagang didiskarte ka lang, pwede naman hindi ito ang pasukin. It never is one way.

 

At the same time andyan na yan kasi. Kaya dapat pagsumikapan nila makaalis. On their own terms. At hindi yung umaasa sila sa prince charming na darating para sagipin sila.

 

Masama pa kasi nito meron yung mga labas pasok sa ganitong trabaho at di na makaalis. Parang di na makaiba ng linya naman.

[thespywhoshags]

 

Tama yun. Its a smart decision if you will ask me. Kasi ganun ka pa din naman pag binahay ka eh. Pagaari ka na ng iba. Ano kakalabasan mo? Kabit? Eh kung maeskandalo ka pa ng pamilya nung lalake, for sure talo ka. Isa pa, what if the guy turns out to be an abusive jerk? Tsaka papano ka kakalas ngayon kung napakalaki ng utang na loob mo dun sa lalake. Tama nga naman, magiging pagaari at alipin ka lang. Eh di mas mabuti pa na ikaw na lang mismo pagsumikapan mo na maialis sarili mo dyan, that way makakaumpisa ka ng bagong buhay on your own terms. Ng hindi mo kinakailangan isipin utang mo sa prince charming mo sana. This is why I don't support the idea na lalake dapat maglabas sa babae sa ganitong hanapbuhay. Its a romantic idea that works best on a screenplay, but it will not really give you that much freedom. You are just trading shackles

 

 

 

Eto sana bukas isip ng magbabasa. Para kasi sakin, kahit ano pa dahilan, problema o hinaharap, pwede kang mabuhay ng parehas kung talagang gugustuhin mo. Di mo naman kelangan ibenta sarili mo at isakripisyo yung dignidad mo. I knew this single mom who works almost 3 to 4 jobs to make both ends meet pwera pa sidelines. Diskarte lang talaga at sakripisyo. Halos 3 hours na lang tinutulog nung tao. May itsura naman sya and her friends invited her to try escorting kahit mga ilang labas lang, pero talagang ayaw nya. Kaming mga kaibigan nya, lagi kami tumutulong naman sa pangangailangan nya. Kahit di na nga binabayaran ok lang. Ayun napagtapos naman sarili nya.

 

 

That is why, you should never go to these places to deal with whatever issues you have. You should never be with this women if you feel emotionally vulnerable. Makikita natin sa mga thread, ang advice ng mga GM pag brokenhearted, pumunta sa mga ganitong lugar para magparaos. IMO, this is the worst advice you can give a guy na depressed kasi nga emotionally vulnerable sila. Lets forget for one second na kasama sa trabaho nila mangbola, lets forget the reality that some are really hustlers. Lets say OK mabait yung babae. Pero what happens when she can't make the guy emotionally secure sa nature ng trabaho nya? O di panibagong cycle nanaman ng depression na mas malalala? And what does it solve? Wala

 

Sex is something you should enjoy when you have that manly confidence di ba?

 

Kaya nga yung isang katropa, simple lang ang rule nya. Never ever hire the same attendant twice. He does not even bother getting their number.

True, for the younger generations. But this industry has clientele dominated by middle aged, blue collar and white collar class men. What I'm trying to say is, it's an ego booster for them knowing they can pay to see a girl, talk to her in a secluded room and get his service. You see what I mean? Most men like this have the tendency to be the opposite in the real world, shy, secluded. When it comes to approaching mature, independent, and financially capable women, they wouldn't stand a chance. I guess mababaw lang talaga ibang lalake, I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about this guy with all his spakol achievements, I came to him after my problem with my thera but when he started talking about his life which almost only revolved the flesh industry, I realized it's a very shallow way to live life. I'm too young to start acting like a DOM, I have places to go, people to meet, have lots of game still for free and willing sex with women my age. Your life is sad if all you do is move from one thera relationship to the next. Even if we say these theras are mature, (mature in a different sense) these women will never be independent and financially capable and will always be in a way emotionally scarred and thats what some clients's prey on thats how they get in to the emotions of girls like this. They look for vulnerable young and good looking theras to have relationships with, what a sad life. Pag binigyan mo ng babaeng alam ginagawa niya sa buhay at kaya ang sarili wala tong mga ganyang klase ng clients, their existence wont even be acknowledged. As man your wallet is thick but your ego is misplaced.

 

And one other thing, madaming thera ngayon are not what they seem, ewan ko ba I guess mababaw talaga ibang lalake nakitang lang maputi, bata, maganda katawan pede na sa kanila. Most of these theras didn't look like that before the industry. Ever heard of gluta? Would you really like this girl if you saw what she looked like before. Kababawan lang talaga.

Edited March 3, 2015 by hooplos

[Edmund Dantes]

True, for the younger generations. But this industry has clientele dominated by middle aged, blue collar and white collar class men. What I'm trying to say is, it's an ego booster for them knowing they can pay to see a girl, talk to her in a secluded room and get his service. You see what I mean? Most men like this have the tendency to be the opposite in the real world, shy, secluded. When it comes to approaching mature, independent, and financially capable women, they wouldn't stand a chance. I guess mababaw lang talaga ibang lalake, I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about this guy with all his spakol achievements, I came to him after my problem with my thera but when he started talking about his life which almost only revolved the flesh industry, I realized it's a very shallow way to live life. I'm too young to start acting like a DOM, I have places to go, people to meet, have lots of game still for free and willing sex with women my age. Your life is sad if all you do is move from one thera relationship to the next. Even if we say these theras are mature, (mature in a different sense) these women will never be independent and financially capable and will always be in a way emotionally scarred and thats what some clients's prey on thats how they get in to the emotions of girls like this. They look for vulnerable young and good looking theras to have relationships with, what a sad life. Pag binigyan mo ng babaeng alam ginagawa niya sa buhay at kaya ang sarili wala tong mga ganyang klase ng clients, their existence wont even be acknowledged. As man your wallet is thick but your ego is misplaced.

 

And one other thing, madaming thera ngayon are not what they seem, ewan ko ba I guess mababaw talaga ibang lalake nakitang lang maputi, bata, maganda katawan pede na sa kanila. Most of these theras didn't look like that before the industry. Ever heard of gluta? Would you really like this girl if you saw what she looked like before. Kababawan lang talaga.

 

 

Sabagay, naalala ko sa Japan, maraming clubs na nag-o-offer ng ganitong services. Parang GRO services na may halong GFE pero most of the time clean fun lang. Walang sex na kasama. At huwag ka, kung merong para sa lalake, merong din club para sa mga babae. May mga boyfriend for hire din sila. Pero yun nga, kadalasan clean fun lang naman ino-offer nila. Boost ng ego ng costumer. Maglalambing lambing, pero may rule yung establishment na walang sex.

[temurlenk]

 

 

Sabagay, naalala ko sa Japan, maraming clubs na nag-o-offer ng ganitong services. Parang GRO services na may halong GFE pero most of the time clean fun lang. Walang sex na kasama. At huwag ka, kung merong para sa lalake, merong din club para sa mga babae. May mga boyfriend for hire din sila. Pero yun nga, kadalasan clean fun lang naman ino-offer nila. Boost ng ego ng costumer. Maglalambing lambing, pero may rule yung establishment na walang sex.

diba mga Geisha yan if I'm not mistaken? sa culture nila accepted yata un ganyang klaseng entertainment lalo na sa mga male professionals na naghahanap ng aliw after working so hard in the office. Stress relief kung baga. Prone din sila (geisha) ma inlove kahit sabihin na strikto sila and nagaantay din sila ng patrons na mayaman na inaasahan din nilang pakasalan sila in the future. There is also a standing dispute if what they are doing can be considered prostitution when they perform paid sex (Mizuage) where the girl loses her virginity to a patron.

[temurlenk]

Also, I don't belive na nasusunod ung no sex policy nila sa libog nila, lol, malamang kahit pano nailalabas ng ibang piling clients ung girl of their choice, under the table nga lang ang usapan at very discreet. Sa Japan pa, walang imposible sa underworld nila, pera pera lang din jan. Same here sa KL, pagtinanong mo sa club manager kung pede maglabas ng babae initially sasabihin nila sayo hindi pwede, pero pagmadalas ka na pumumpunta at kilala ka na ng manager sasabihin na nila sayo depende sa babae at sila pa mismo mag convince sa babae na sumama sayo at a price, lol.

[thespywhoshags]

 

 

Sabagay, naalala ko sa Japan, maraming clubs na nag-o-offer ng ganitong services. Parang GRO services na may halong GFE pero most of the time clean fun lang. Walang sex na kasama. At huwag ka, kung merong para sa lalake, merong din club para sa mga babae. May mga boyfriend for hire din sila. Pero yun nga, kadalasan clean fun lang naman ino-offer nila. Boost ng ego ng costumer. Maglalambing lambing, pero may rule yung establishment na walang sex.

Pero diba?! Misplaced ang ego! Kahit ba sabihin mong after ng next meetings ng person for hire ay hindi na sa loob ng establishment, even if you dated her outside from that point on. It still comes down to that point that you met him/her in the establishment, meaning during the first time you met, you payed. You payed for her time and services. Why? because men like these couldn't hack it in the real world. Thats how DOMs work, and I don't want to grow up like that. it's shallow and not healthy.

[temurlenk]

Pero diba?! Misplaced ang ego! Kahit ba sabihin mong after ng next meetings ng person for hire ay hindi na sa loob ng establishment, even if you dated her outside from that point on. It still comes down to that point that you met him/her in the establishment, meaning during the first time you met, you payed. You payed for her time and services. Why? because men like these couldn't hack it in the real world. Thats how DOMs work, and I don't want to grow up like that. it's shallow and not healthy.

Ideally I wouldn't encourage guys to ply this route, na masanay sila sa ganitong klaseng pagpaparaos but the fact remains, it is the most convenient way for many, especially for married and busy guys, to have sex without strings attached. As long as no strings attached, meaning walang ligawan, walang syotaan, at business lang in the purest sense, at pag uwi mo sa bahay mahal mo pa din asawa mo at mga anak nyo (wag mo lang sya hawaan ng sakit). Kung binata ka naman at sociable, masmaganda siguro na matuto ka muna mang hunting sa labas ng club at dun mo itesting ung prowess nyo sa chicks. Take note- social skills. Hindi mo kelangan ng social skills sa mp or clubs kase usually ung babae ang mag poprovide nun para sayo. Tama ka, hindi magandang venue maghanap ng karelasyon sa club or spa dahil nagkapalitan ng pera sa umpisa which is too convenient and malicious and hindi mo din maikwento sa mga kamaganak nyo in the future kung pano kayo nagkakilala.

[thespywhoshags]

Ideally I wouldn't encourage guys to ply this route, na masanay sila sa ganitong klaseng pagpaparaos but the fact remains, it is the most convenient way for many, especially for married and busy guys, to have sex without strings attached. As long as no strings attached, meaning walang ligawan, walang syotaan, at business lang in the purest sense, at pag uwi mo sa bahay mahal mo pa din asawa mo at mga anak nyo (wag mo lang sya hawaan ng sakit). Kung binata ka naman at sociable, masmaganda siguro na matuto ka muna mang hunting sa labas ng club at dun mo itesting ung prowess nyo sa chicks. Take note- social skills. Hindi mo kelangan ng social skills sa mp or clubs kase usually ung babae ang mag poprovide nun para sayo. Tama ka, hindi magandang venue maghanap ng karelasyon sa club or spa dahil nagkapalitan ng pera sa umpisa which is too convenient and malicious and hindi mo din maikwento sa mga kamaganak nyo in the future kung pano kayo nagkakilala.

Yeah true. true, I'm just venting. It's just these men talaga espescially the one I've been in contact with. Parang the way he said his experiences, so I'm supposed to be wowed by his spakol achievements. "Achievements". Under normal circumstances, young women who don't need money won't even give these guys the time of day. I wish I could say more. But I don't want to start an internet brawl.

 

Okay lang yung pupunta ka ng spa, you want release eh. Sige lang try mo lahat ayos din daming choices, pero yung sa spa industry ka na lang naghahanap ng relationship ah iba na yon. Ang baba ng tingin ko sa ganon, sige sabihin ko na lang okay na rin mainlove ka sa isa for the experience, after non, look for love with a normal girl. Pero yung after your thera/client relationship, at dahil spakol ka ng spakol wala ka ng ibang makilalang babae kungdi thera, no matter what age you are, ay ibang usapan na yan. Kung dian tumataas ang ego mo at dian ka sa tingin mo masaya, tsk. thera na lang ng thera. pshhh. Misplaced ang pagkalalake mo. I look down on guys like these.

[Edmund Dantes]

diba mga Geisha yan if I'm not mistaken? sa culture nila accepted yata un ganyang klaseng entertainment lalo na sa mga male professionals na naghahanap ng aliw after working so hard in the office. Stress relief kung baga. Prone din sila (geisha) ma inlove kahit sabihin na strikto sila and nagaantay din sila ng patrons na mayaman na inaasahan din nilang pakasalan sila in the future. There is also a standing dispute if what they are doing can be considered prostitution when they perform paid sex (Mizuage) where the girl loses her virginity to a patron.

 

 

Also, I don't belive na nasusunod ung no sex policy nila sa libog nila, lol, malamang kahit pano nailalabas ng ibang piling clients ung girl of their choice, under the table nga lang ang usapan at very discreet. Sa Japan pa, walang imposible sa underworld nila, pera pera lang din jan. Same here sa KL, pagtinanong mo sa club manager kung pede maglabas ng babae initially sasabihin nila sayo hindi pwede, pero pagmadalas ka na pumumpunta at kilala ka na ng manager sasabihin na nila sayo depende sa babae at sila pa mismo mag convince sa babae na sumama sayo at a price, lol.

 

Iba naman talaga ang Geisha. Its more of cultural appreciation sya. Tsaka ang geisha dapat expert sa traditional japanese performing arts. Wala naman talagang sex innuendo services nila. They will serve you drinks, perform for you, and thats pretty much it. Its expensive din maghire ng geisha for a private show. Kelangan mayaman ka talaga o may kapit ka sa mga circles dun. Hirap din humuli ng geisha sa Kyoto kasi. Nung may na-ispotan kami, nagtatago sila sa mga cam namin.

 

As for host/hostess clubs and the no sex policy, of course di naman maiiwasan siguro na may lumabag sa policy na yan. Palihim na lang siguro. In fact nung nagaaral ako I had Filipina friends who worked in this kind of place. Most lang naman is aakbayan ka other than that wala na. Mababaw lang kasi happiness ng mga hapon. Ipamper mo lang konti, serve them drinks, samahan mo kumanta ng konti masaya na sila.

 

Kung talaga kasi sex hanap ng mga hapon, hindi sila pupunta sa ganitong lugar. Dun sila sa mga tinatawag na soapland, which is the equivalent of MP satin, and pinakamalapit siguro sa spa is the pink salons

[Edmund Dantes]

Pero diba?! Misplaced ang ego! Kahit ba sabihin mong after ng next meetings ng person for hire ay hindi na sa loob ng establishment, even if you dated her outside from that point on. It still comes down to that point that you met him/her in the establishment, meaning during the first time you met, you payed. You payed for her time and services. Why? because men like these couldn't hack it in the real world. Thats how DOMs work, and I don't want to grow up like that. it's shallow and not healthy.

 

 

Ideally I wouldn't encourage guys to ply this route, na masanay sila sa ganitong klaseng pagpaparaos but the fact remains, it is the most convenient way for many, especially for married and busy guys, to have sex without strings attached. As long as no strings attached, meaning walang ligawan, walang syotaan, at business lang in the purest sense, at pag uwi mo sa bahay mahal mo pa din asawa mo at mga anak nyo (wag mo lang sya hawaan ng sakit). Kung binata ka naman at sociable, masmaganda siguro na matuto ka muna mang hunting sa labas ng club at dun mo itesting ung prowess nyo sa chicks. Take note- social skills. Hindi mo kelangan ng social skills sa mp or clubs kase usually ung babae ang mag poprovide nun para sayo. Tama ka, hindi magandang venue maghanap ng karelasyon sa club or spa dahil nagkapalitan ng pera sa umpisa which is too convenient and malicious and hindi mo din maikwento sa mga kamaganak nyo in the future kung pano kayo nagkakilala.

 

 

On this I will agree with you guys 200%. Kaya nga nakakainis dyan yung mga sumosobra na talaga ang yabang na kung magkwento at manermon akala mo kung sino ng napaka expert sa babae... Na tipong modern-day Rico Suave Y Cassanova. Marami na daw sila "friends" sa ganitong lugar. Kilalalng kilala paguugali nila. Pero malamang mga di naman makalapit sa babae kung di naman kelangan bigyan ng tip. Malamang din kung sobrang high class yung babae at kaya mamili ng guest, hindi naman sila pipiliin.

 

Isa pang nakakairita kung magtanggol sa mga babae sa thread na ito, akala mo kung sinong white knight cavalry na pababa ang tingin. Pero pag nasa MP threads naman, panay kwento ng maruruming detalye ng mga serbisyo nila at ineendorso pa sa mga kapwa nila manyakis. Kung idescribe yung babae, parang sariwang karne lang na gusto ipatikim sa iba.

 

Kaya nga ako, I have respect for men na kahit may edad na nagagawa pa din makauto ng babae na mas bata bata sa kanila, kahit di naman MP/GRO/Thera. Yung imbes na sinasayang lagi pera para maghanap ng babaeng bobola sa kanila, mas pinili na lang maginvest sa sarili nila. Tipong talagang hindi nagpatubo ng bilbil at inalagaan mabuti sarili nila so they age gracefully. Higit sa lahat, hindi kiss and tell. Yan ang mga totoong idol

[temurlenk]

To tell you the truth, I only started paying for sex later in my youth, not so much as para magparaos but just to experience how it works and out of curiosity na din ika nga and because some of my friends wanted to go. At first I hesitated because natatakot ako mahawaan ng sakit and I didn't feel comfortable having sex with a girl na diko naman kilala. So we went to Caloocan and there's a bar there (I forgot the name) and as we entered the small swinging doors na parang sa western movies I immediately saw tables with guys drinking with gros and what not under dim red lights. So my friend who's familiar with the place talked to the waiter and we were asked to choose a lady from a lineup. Then we were brought upstairs and asked to wait in small rooms na may gamit pa nung girl na napili namin, as if dun din sila natutulog because I can see their personal stuff lying around. The bed was more like a wooden cot with a thin mattress, maliit lang na good for 1 person. As I sat there someone came in and I saw it was her, the lady I chose. I could see that she was wasted and she smelled like an ashtray as she handed me the condom and asked me to strip. It was a terrible experience for me but I pounded her until makaraos ako kahit hindi ako nag enjoy dahil nanghinayang din ako sa binayad ko. For me the feeling was strange. She was attractive naman kahit pano, and sexy, pero walang dating sakin kase inside my head alam ko hindi sya nakipag sex sakin dahil gusto nya ako. I knew it wasn't the point, I knew it's all just about sex and money but I just couldn't get over the thought na wala akong effort na ginawa para maikama ko sya. I wasn't used to that scenario, My uncle always taught me "money for nothing, chicks for free", so all the while nasa isip ko un and I felt I was betraying myself. Hindi ako nagmamalaki na matinik ako sa chicks at hindi ako mukang artista na para pagkaguluhan nila pero I can hold my own naman kahit pano, kahit mejo torpe ako. The point of the story is, we are men and as men we should be able to tell the difference between haviing sex for fun or relaxation as opposed to having sex for love and attraction.

[kali7]

To tell you the truth, I only started paying for sex later in my youth, not so much as para magparaos but just to experience how it works and out of curiosity na din ika nga and because some of my friends wanted to go. At first I hesitated because natatakot ako mahawaan ng sakit and I didn't feel comfortable having sex with a girl na diko naman kilala. So we went to Caloocan and there's a bar there (I forgot the name) and as we entered the small swinging doors na parang sa western movies I immediately saw tables with guys drinking with gros and what not under dim red lights. So my friend who's familiar with the place talked to the waiter and we were asked to choose a lady from a lineup. Then we were brought upstairs and asked to wait in small rooms na may gamit pa nung girl na napili namin, as if dun din sila natutulog because I can see their personal stuff lying around. The bed was more like a wooden cot with a thin mattress, maliit lang na good for 1 person. As I sat there someone came in and I saw it was her, the lady I chose. I could see that she was wasted and she smelled like an ashtray as she handed me the condom and asked me to strip. It was a terrible experience for me but I pounded her until makaraos ako kahit hindi ako nag enjoy dahil nanghinayang din ako sa binayad ko. For me the feeling was strange. She was attractive naman kahit pano, and sexy, pero walang dating sakin kase inside my head alam ko hindi sya nakipag sex sakin dahil gusto nya ako. I knew it wasn't the point, I knew it's all just about sex and money but I just couldn't get over the thought na wala akong effort na ginawa para maikama ko sya. I wasn't used to that scenario, My uncle always taught me "money for nothing, chicks for free", so all the while nasa isip ko un and I felt I was betraying myself. Hindi ako nagmamalaki na matinik ako sa chicks at hindi ako mukang artista na para pagkaguluhan nila pero I can hold my own naman kahit pano, kahit mejo torpe ako. The point of the story is, we are men and as men we should be able to tell the difference between haviing sex for fun or relaxation as opposed to having sex for love and attraction.

 

That's the easiest scenario where the girl just want to get it on and be over with also. There are some girls that are really super GFE that they hook you up to make you come back for more. Those are the dangerous ones because they are the one that make you fall in love. Its still a case to case basis in term of connections between you two but its better not to give your cp# to them.

[Edmund Dantes]

To tell you the truth, I only started paying for sex later in my youth, not so much as para magparaos but just to experience how it works and out of curiosity na din ika nga and because some of my friends wanted to go. At first I hesitated because natatakot ako mahawaan ng sakit and I didn't feel comfortable having sex with a girl na diko naman kilala. So we went to Caloocan and there's a bar there (I forgot the name) and as we entered the small swinging doors na parang sa western movies I immediately saw tables with guys drinking with gros and what not under dim red lights. So my friend who's familiar with the place talked to the waiter and we were asked to choose a lady from a lineup. Then we were brought upstairs and asked to wait in small rooms na may gamit pa nung girl na napili namin, as if dun din sila natutulog because I can see their personal stuff lying around. The bed was more like a wooden cot with a thin mattress, maliit lang na good for 1 person. As I sat there someone came in and I saw it was her, the lady I chose. I could see that she was wasted and she smelled like an ashtray as she handed me the condom and asked me to strip. It was a terrible experience for me but I pounded her until makaraos ako kahit hindi ako nag enjoy dahil nanghinayang din ako sa binayad ko. For me the feeling was strange. She was attractive naman kahit pano, and sexy, pero walang dating sakin kase inside my head alam ko hindi sya nakipag sex sakin dahil gusto nya ako. I knew it wasn't the point, I knew it's all just about sex and money but I just couldn't get over the thought na wala akong effort na ginawa para maikama ko sya. I wasn't used to that scenario, My uncle always taught me "money for nothing, chicks for free", so all the while nasa isip ko un and I felt I was betraying myself. Hindi ako nagmamalaki na matinik ako sa chicks at hindi ako mukang artista na para pagkaguluhan nila pero I can hold my own naman kahit pano, kahit mejo torpe ako. The point of the story is, we are men and as men we should be able to tell the difference between haviing sex for fun or relaxation as opposed to having sex for love and attraction.

 

 

Unfortunately some men are just emotionally immature and insecure. They can't tell the difference. In fact they can't even tell the difference between love and infatuation. Marami talagang ganyan na basta nakasex lang at medyo may konting lambing pa, mahal na agad at lahat hahamakin na. Mahirap pa dyan lagi kasi inuuna ang puso bago ang utak eh. Which I have consistently said na mali talaga. Under no circumstances na dapat mangibabaw puso sa pagiisip.

[oninpo]

 

 

Sabagay, naalala ko sa Japan, maraming clubs na nag-o-offer ng ganitong services. Parang GRO services na may halong GFE pero most of the time clean fun lang. Walang sex na kasama. At huwag ka, kung merong para sa lalake, merong din club para sa mga babae. May mga boyfriend for hire din sila. Pero yun nga, kadalasan clean fun lang naman ino-offer nila. Boost ng ego ng costumer. Maglalambing lambing, pero may rule yung establishment na walang sex.

after graduating from college yan ang unang work ko male host sa japan. we entertain them girls/women/gays poured them some drinks. basically the goal is make them spend more money sa club and create a good relationship for them to comeback.

[temurlenk]

 

That's the easiest scenario where the girl just want to get it on and be over with also. There are some girls that are really super GFE that they hook you up to make you come back for more. Those are the dangerous ones because they are the one that make you fall in love. Its still a case to case basis in term of connections between you two but its better not to give your cp# to them.

Totoo yan and it's an art form on its own. Parang sa tingin ko pinag aaralan talaga nila weakness ng mga lalake para mahulog loob sa kanila, after all, mawawalan sila ng client kung pasuplada effect sila. In some places, ung mga star na babae ok lang magsuplada kase alam nila maganda sila at babalikbalikan for their looks alone. Ung mga average looking naman at di kagandahan sila naman ung masyadong welcoming at accommodating dahil alam nila na un lang laban nila sa mga masmagandang babae. Sila ung masdelikado at mas matamis magsalita at kukunin nila talaga cp mo para itext sayo mga promos at pabalikin ka. Bato-bato sa langit tamaan wag magalit, lol.

[temurlenk]

after graduating from college yan ang unang work ko male host sa japan. we entertain them girls/women/gays poured them some drinks. basically the goal is make them spend more money sa club and create a good relationship for them to comeback.

Eh bro, from a male standpoint sa ganyang profession kung mamarapatin mo, have you ever fallen inlove with a client or vise versa? Would you recommend it? If so, how do you deal with it?

[fgelo]

Very intelligent discussion ito

 

*thumbs up to all posters*

[oninpo]

Eh bro, from a male standpoint sa ganyang profession kung mamarapatin mo, have you ever fallen inlove with a client or vise versa? Would you recommend it? If so, how do you deal with it?

multiple times on the clients side. never pa sakin because sa dami nila naooverwhelm ako parang kasing semi celeb and dating. as long as its mutual madami akong kasama na kinasal na dun and happy pa rin naman sila. sa mga clients ko? Ill date them a few times and all the time naman hinde ako ang nagbabayad so walang financial damage sakin and later one theyll realize that im unavailable habang lumalabas kami kasi lagi kong ikwekwento na may anak ako kunyare bread winner ako kunyare just to make them think that i have different priorities. some are stubborn enough to offer me financial support. it was so tempting that I almost said yes one time but most of the time ill just answer that i dont want to take advantage of them.

[temurlenk]

multiple times on the clients side. never pa sakin because sa dami nila naooverwhelm ako parang kasing semi celeb and dating. as long as its mutual madami akong kasama na kinasal na dun and happy pa rin naman sila. sa mga clients ko? Ill date them a few times and all the time naman hinde ako ang nagbabayad so walang financial damage sakin and later one theyll realize that im unavailable habang lumalabas kami kasi lagi kong ikwekwento na may anak ako kunyare bread winner ako kunyare just to make them think that i have different priorities. some are stubborn enough to offer me financial support. it was so tempting that I almost said yes one time but most of the time ill just answer that i dont want to take advantage of them.

No offense dun sa mga kasama mong kinasal and good for them na happy sila pero sakin, ikaw na, ikaw na idol! Strictly professional and no strings attached and focused ka sa goals mo. Madami kaseng clients na hindi naintindihan or nagpapadala masyado sa emotion pag mabait sa kanila ang host or gro and it's up to people like you to control the situation and make sure na alam ng client kung bakit ka nila kasama. Madami kase sa kanila ang emotionally vulnerable and naghahanap lang ng makakausap and it's not right to take advantage of them. Thanks for sharing!