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Help me understand, is this a form of addiction? Why not stop na lang? I am just curious.

 

 

I wouldn't say it is a form of addiction... rather, a way to wean ourselves from nicotine dependency that was imbued to us by long-time cigarette use

 

instead of getting our nicotine fix from cigs, we get it from vaping, and unlike smoking, we can taper down our nicotine fix bit by bit using vaping... unlike smoking

 

also, unlike nicotine patches and gums, vaping also addresses a psychological factor, which is the hand-to-mouth action derived from smoking, and also the pyschological factor of "blowing smoke to destress and re-focus"

 

quitting is the ideal scenario, and vaping is a tool to help us ex-smokers get to that scenarion :)

 

quitting cold-turkey is not something we can do, due to a variety of reasons, so we choose the alternative

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Hi silverclaw, so did you established a timeline until when you will vape? I know someone who was able to totally stop smoking cause he no longer had a choice (he had a heart attack though he was just in his late 30's). Why does one need to undergo being rushed to ICU before deciding that it is really bad to one's health? If it's like an outlet, why not find an outlet that will make you healthy? Like running, gym, etc.

 

I just wanted to understand where a smoker is coming from (cigarette or vaping.. it's still smoking pa din, mali ba?)

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Hi silverclaw, so did you established a timeline until when you will vape? I know someone who was able to totally stop smoking cause he no longer had a choice (he had a heart attack though he was just in his late 30's). Why does one need to undergo being rushed to ICU before deciding that it is really bad to one's health? If it's like an outlet, why not find an outlet that will make you healthy? Like running, gym, etc.

I just wanted to understand where a smoker is coming from (cigarette or vaping.. it's still smoking pa din, mali ba?)

Sorry for the intrusion.

 

Smoking is similar to substance abuse/dependency. Our drug of choice nicotine.

 

From what you wrote, seems like you never smoked a stick in your life. There are smokers who run, go to the gym and do the healthy stuff. But, as I've mentioned we are just like other substance abusers when it comes to getting our nicotine fix.

 

Like what Silverclaw said, vaping is our way to slowly wean ourselves away from the more harmful cigarettes. Quitting at once as if we never smoked in our life may result to withdrawal symptoms similar to those experienced by other abusers when they stop suddenly.

 

Vaping is not the same as smoking. Though the actions and reactions are the same.

 

In vaping, we use what we call e-liquid or e-juice that has lesser nicotine content compared to one stick of cigarette. It also does not contain all thr harmful ingredients of an ordinary cig. The liquid is mainly composed of food grade propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin.

 

And if we can't quit totally, we always have the choice of buying e-liquid that does not have nicotine. We still satisfy the craving both physical and psychological.

 

HTH.

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ahahahahaha e kasi naman, e... nawala na knowledge sa vaping, puro porma

 

ganun na nga..puro porma lang. lahat na lang spoon fed sa mga bagong vapers,

 

nagvape tayo nuon para mabawasan ang yosi, ngayon dami nagvevape para magpasikat pakapalan ng usok.

nuon nagmumulti tester tayo, ngayon inclusive na sa mod ang tester,

 

nuon kuntento na tayo sa 3.6volts/low resistance atty 1.5ohms, ngayon lahat na lang variable na tapos may cloud check pa

 

nuon karayom lang ang guide sa pag rebuild, ngayon kumpleto na sa gadgets

 

nuon nagtutulungan ang mga vaper, ngayon mas madalas pa yabangan kaya andaming nababash

 

ang tao walang kakuntentohan, nawawala na purpose ng vaping. kaya nasabayan pa ng katangahan at kayabangan..ayun, iyak pag nasabugan

 

at nuon ang mahal ng juice, buti ngayon mura na.lol

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Sorry for the intrusion.

 

Smoking is similar to substance abuse/dependency. Our drug of choice nicotine.

 

From what you wrote, seems like you never smoked a stick in your life. There are smokers who run, go to the gym and do the healthy stuff. But, as I've mentioned we are just like other substance abusers when it comes to getting our nicotine fix.

 

Like what Silverclaw said, vaping is our way to slowly wean ourselves away from the more harmful cigarettes. Quitting at once as if we never smoked in our life may result to withdrawal symptoms similar to those experienced by other abusers when they stop suddenly.

 

Vaping is not the same as smoking. Though the actions and reactions are the same.

 

In vaping, we use what we call e-liquid or e-juice that has lesser nicotine content compared to one stick of cigarette. It also does not contain all thr harmful ingredients of an ordinary cig. The liquid is mainly composed of food grade propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin.

 

And if we can't quit totally, we always have the choice of buying e-liquid that does not have nicotine. We still satisfy the craving both physical and psychological.

 

HTH.

 

Also if I may add.... as HarleyQueen mentioned yes vaping does not have the other harmful elements that the cigarrete has (though I am personally not sure if there is something more than nicotine within the e-liquids) regardless its non/less harmful compared to regular cigarettes.

 

In addition, vaping does not produce second hand smoke unlike the regular ones which can harm non smokers as well.

 

Personally I went back to vaping since I find smoking does not taste good anymore. (additional advantages: you wont smell like am ashtray) B)

 

 

 

ganun na nga..puro porma lang. lahat na lang spoon fed sa mga bagong vapers,

 

nagvape tayo nuon para mabawasan ang yosi, ngayon dami nagvevape para magpasikat pakapalan ng usok.

nuon nagmumulti tester tayo, ngayon inclusive na sa mod ang tester,

 

nuon kuntento na tayo sa 3.6volts/low resistance atty 1.5ohms, ngayon lahat na lang variable na tapos may cloud check pa

 

nuon karayom lang ang guide sa pag rebuild, ngayon kumpleto na sa gadgets

 

nuon nagtutulungan ang mga vaper, ngayon mas madalas pa yabangan kaya andaming nababash

 

ang tao walang kakuntentohan, nawawala na purpose ng vaping. kaya nasabayan pa ng katangahan at kayabangan..ayun, iyak pag nasabugan

 

at nuon ang mahal ng juice, buti ngayon mura na.lol

 

True mas maraming options na ngayon, pero honestly its convenience din naman (lalo na yung temp control feature) personally for me mas sanay ako sa VV since I started with one waaay way long time ago.

 

Although nakagamit din ako nang CCPV (At buhay pa naman siya actually) pero nung time na yun wick pa gamit hindi pa cotton, susko kada palit pati coil damay.

 

Pero agree ako na marami ngayon nag vevape para pampaporma lang at padamihan lang nang usok.

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ganun na nga..puro porma lang. lahat na lang spoon fed sa mga bagong vapers,

 

nagvape tayo nuon para mabawasan ang yosi, ngayon dami nagvevape para magpasikat pakapalan ng usok.

nuon nagmumulti tester tayo, ngayon inclusive na sa mod ang tester,

 

nuon kuntento na tayo sa 3.6volts/low resistance atty 1.5ohms, ngayon lahat na lang variable na tapos may cloud check pa

 

nuon karayom lang ang guide sa pag rebuild, ngayon kumpleto na sa gadgets

 

nuon nagtutulungan ang mga vaper, ngayon mas madalas pa yabangan kaya andaming nababash

 

ang tao walang kakuntentohan, nawawala na purpose ng vaping. kaya nasabayan pa ng katangahan at kayabangan..ayun, iyak pag nasabugan

 

at nuon ang mahal ng juice, buti ngayon mura na.lol

 

 

hahaha panalo yung last part...

 

but sadly, most of your points are correct...

 

kaya nga pinipilit namin ibalik yung essence ng vaping

 

 

Also if I may add.... as HarleyQueen mentioned yes vaping does not have the other harmful elements that the cigarrete has (though I am personally not sure if there is something more than nicotine within the e-liquids) regardless its non/less harmful compared to regular cigarettes.

 

In addition, vaping does not produce second hand smoke unlike the regular ones which can harm non smokers as well.

 

Personally I went back to vaping since I find smoking does not taste good anymore. (additional advantages: you wont smell like am ashtray) B)

 

 

 

True mas maraming options na ngayon, pero honestly its convenience din naman (lalo na yung temp control feature) personally for me mas sanay ako sa VV since I started with one waaay way long time ago.

 

Although nakagamit din ako nang CCPV (At buhay pa naman siya actually) pero nung time na yun wick pa gamit hindi pa cotton, susko kada palit pati coil damay.

 

Pero agree ako na marami ngayon nag vevape para pampaporma lang at padamihan lang nang usok.

 

 

ako, actually, I prefer regulated mods

 

back up ang mechs, and yes, I cloud chase, pero pag me tao, iwas hehehehe

 

and I still know how to stealth vape

 

 

to miss black cat

 

a lot of athletes also still smoke, albeit in hiding, so even if we try other strenous activities, the urge to smoke is still tthere

 

this may sound cliche, but I feel like you haven't smoked, so I doubt my words will make a semblance of sense, since people who have smoked will understand what I am saying... apologies if the statement offered any slight, I did not mean it to

 

and of course, we want to stop smoking, but since it is not easily done, we switched to vaping

 

 

and you asked if I have a timeline? not really, I will give up vaping, when I feel like I have weaned myself from nicotine, which I am well on my way, having been a heavy nicotine vaper to a very light one

 

I will not force myself to quit vaping, especially if it lets me meet like-minded people... but all good things will end, and I intend to fully enjoy the ride :)

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I tried smoking before.. you know, peer pressure while drinking.. everybody is smoking so might as well. I noticed I get drunk more easily whenever I smoke. I also tried even when I wasn't drinking just to look cool.

 

I never liked it, reason why it didn't became a habit.

 

I just wanted to understand how you got attached to nicotine even if you're aware that it's bad for one's health. As I've said, a friend of mine has the same reasoning as most here but he stopped cause he realized he doesn't wanna die young.

 

Thank you all for the replies. ;)

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I tried smoking before.. you know, peer pressure while drinking.. everybody is smoking so might as well. I noticed I get drunk more easily whenever I smoke. I also tried even when I wasn't drinking just to look cool.

 

I never liked it, reason why it didn't became a habit.

 

I just wanted to understand how you got attached to nicotine even if you're aware that it's bad for one's health. As I've said, a friend of mine has the same reasoning as most here but he stopped cause he realized he doesn't wanna die young.

 

Thank you all for the replies. ;)

 

 

good for you, you weren't hooked... means you weren't that stressed out :)

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Oh I guess we just have different ways of managing stress. I'm an executive in a big company so please don't discount the stress level I am goin through. :)

i meant no disrespect by the previous statement, and i do agree on the point that we have different means of stress management. :) good morning

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Where do you guys get your juices and what flavors do you recommend? My go to flavors currently are:

Magnum by japajuice

Bavarian th4 and vanilla gelato by Cloud chaser

Capacino

Hercules and medusa by ambrosia

Mistwood in Libis:

 

NitroLabs - Eclipse or Camarro

Cloud Chaser - Apple Pie

Japa/HS - Itchigo MMM

 

Vape or Crave Cubao:

 

Hamog - Pepe or Tiyago

Holy Smokes -MMM

GD - Strawberry

 

All of them @3mg

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Where do you guys get your juices and what flavors do you recommend? My go to flavors currently are:

 

Magnum by japajuice

Bavarian th4 and vanilla gelato by Cloud chaser

Capacino

Hercules and medusa by ambrosia

 

As for mine:

 

Vaper's Pass Congressional:

 

RIX: Strawberry Yougurt

 

Space Vapors: Goat's Milk and Goat's Milk Strawberry

 

Drip Matic: G's Milk

 

Chimney Fogs: Trix and Berries on Cream

 

Oraaayt!: Karamelot

 

Mist - A - Vape: Funky Monkey, Rogue, and Peach Iced Tea

 

Ambrosia: Hercules

 

Also all 3MG

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