BoySungkit Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 That Jordan Clarkson dunk though... Quote Link to comment
totoygwapo Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Clarkson/Randle/D'Lo... Bright Future for the Lakers + Budget after Kobe Retires... Quote Link to comment
direstraits94 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Great win against the Suns, hope they win vs the defending champ. nxt game 👏 Quote Link to comment
Greenboy27 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 naka 3-0 na lakers , still hoping makapasok pa din sa playoff kahit pang 8 Quote Link to comment
GrandGM Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 oo, playoffs lang masaya na ako Quote Link to comment
BoySungkit Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Parang mas okay na kulelat nalang sila for this year... Kung Long Term ang titingnan... Simmons... Quote Link to comment
paowee24 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Jc + jr + dr = future lakers big 3 Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Jc + jr + dr = future lakers big 3 isa o dlawa dito eh pangtrade daw sa isang legit Superstar FA Quote Link to comment
BoySungkit Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Russel di daw naglari dahil may Sore Throat? Quote Link to comment
Greenboy27 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 oo nag laro olat na naman sayang di maka directcho manlang Quote Link to comment
Guiness Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/42499/execs-weigh-in-on-kobes-place-in-all-time-laker-ranksExecs weigh in on Kobe's place in all-time Lakers ranks As Kobe Bryant works his way around the league on a farewell tour, he is being celebrated as one of the greatest players of all time.But is Kobe even the greatest Laker? ESPN asked NBA executives and coaches who they believed was the greatest Laker of all time, and it wasn’t close. Magic Johnson, who along with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar formed arguably the greatest duo to ever play the game, received 69 percent of the votes. Of the 65 respondents, 45 said Johnson was the greatest Laker ever. “Magic without a doubt," said one executive who also played in the league. “I love Kobe, but Magic brought more to the table."Bryant and Abdul-Jabbar tied for second with seven votes apiece, and Jerry West, who followed his terrific Lakers playing career with an unparalleled career in the team's front office, received five votes. Wilt Chamberlain, the greatest statistical force the game has ever known, played only five seasons with the Lakers and was named by one voter.Those who voted for Bryant were surprised the final tally was so lopsided.“Kobe won two titles without Shaq," said an executive. “Magic didn’t win any titles without Kareem. I thought Kobe would get more love for his five titles."Both Johnson and Bryant won five championships in Los Angeles -- same as Abdul-Jabbar. However, Abdul-Jabbar won a title in Milwaukee before joining the Lakers in 1975.In addition to his six championships, Abdul-Jabbar, the leading scorer in NBA history, won a league-record six MVP awards, but only three of them came with the Lakers, leaving him tied with Johnson for the most in franchise history. Some executives said they consider Abdul-Jabbar the greatest player to ever wear a Lakers uniform and arguably the greatest player in league history, even as they consider Johnson the greatest Laker. Others said they believe the two superstars’ contrasting personalities -- Johnson's gregarious, Abdul-Jabbar's grouchy -- play a role in the perceptions of them. “If people didn’t factor in Kareem’s personality, he would be much more in the mix [for greatest Laker]," said one longtime executive. “It’s hard to argue with either Kareem or Magic, but Kareem’s personality impacts the vote." West, who may have better statistics -- 27 points, 6.7 assists, 5.8 rebounds per game for his career -- than either Johnson or Bryant, was also in the mix. The Los Angeles Angeles Lakers boast the second most titles in NBA history, their 16 championships second only to the 17 claimed by their arch-rival Boston Celtics. The next closest team is the Chicago Bulls with their six NBA titles of the Michael Jordan era. The Lakers have spoiled their fans with success over the years. The Lakers have attained that level of success mostly by being fortunate enough to almost always have teams stacked with great players. 21 Hall-of-Famers have spent at least part of their careers suiting up for the purple and gold, and the team has retired 9 players' jersey numbers to the rafters, never to be worn again in honor of those players' accomplishments.Both of those numbers are set to increase within the next few years after Kobe Bryant retires at the conclusion of the Lakers' 2015-16 season. The five-time champion who won an MVP in 2008 and was MVP of the NBA Finals the next two years has had enough success during his time in the purple and gold to prompt the team to consider retiring both of the jersey numbers he has worn throughout his career. Despite all of this success, NBA executives and coaches polled anonymously by Chris Broussard of ESPN still rank Bryant as tied for second-best Lakers player of all-time:ESPN asked NBA executives and coaches who they believed was the greatest Laker of all time, and it wasn't close. Magic Johnson, who along with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar formed arguably the greatest duo to ever play the game, received 69 percent of the votes. Of the 65 respondents, 45 said Johnson was the greatest Laker ever. "Magic without a doubt," said one executive who also played in the league. "I love Kobe, but Magic brought more to the table."Bryant and Abdul-Jabbar tied for second with seven votes apiece, and Jerry West, who followed his terrific Lakers playing career with an unparalleled career in the team's front office, received five votes. Wilt Chamberlain, the greatest statistical force the game has ever known, played only five seasons with the Lakers and was named by one voter.Magic Johnson had plenty of success over his time as a Laker and is by no means a bad choice as the best player to ever play for the franchise. When comparing two guards who have attained as many accolades and victories as Bryant and Johnson, it really is a matter of personal preference, and likely depends on one's generation. For Lakers fans who grew up in the 80's and 90's, Johnson or Abdul-Jabbar are likely to to top this list. Fans older than that may choose West or Chamberlain, just as fans raised more recently are almost sure to pick Bryant or even Shaquille O'Neal. The argument just illustrates how lucky Lakers fans are to have so many great players to choose from as the best they have ever seen. “When West joined the Lakers, basketball had just moved to Los Angeles, and the sport really had no followers to speak of," an executive said. Other players who got votes were Jerry West and Wilt Chamberlain “Jerry came along as this young player, this Olympian, and did things that were just incredible without the benefit of ever, ever having an outstanding center until Wilt came along at the end of Jerry’s career. He put basketball on the map in Southern California and did things that to this day are just mind-blowing, particularly in the playoffs." The most interesting comparison was made by a general manager who tried to explain why Johnson’s five championships seemed to hold more weight than Bryant’s. “Kobe [ticks] people off and Magic usually said all the right things," the GM said. “They were different players. [Magic] made everyone better. [Kobe] made the team better. In my heart, I know it’s Magic [who’s the greatest Laker], but Kobe was unreal at times.“Kobe is like Anakin Skywalker. The force was strong with him and he could not control it at times. He had too many weapons and abused the power. He was loved as a young Jedi, hated during his prime as a ruler, and now everyone’s coming back around at the end. Magic is Yoda, always teaching and making others better -- the leader that elevates others.” - Since this was to be Kobe's last season. This week NBA executives around the league were asked who they think is the greatest Laker ever. The results had Magic leading most of the votes followed by Kareem and Kobe who were tied for 2nd. Jerry West and Wilt Chamberlain were also voted, but Magic was the overall favorite by a landslide . Here is a list of Laker players who you think should be considered as the greatest Laker of all time. Anyone can add a player not on this list if they think they deserve to be the Greatest Laker. Magic JohnsonKobe BryantKareem Abdul JabbarJerry WestWilt ChamberlainJamaal WilkesJames WorthyShaquille O'NealElgin BaylorBob McadooGail Goodrich I think the the NBA execs are right in putting Magic ahead of Kobe but i have to note that out of all the players to wear purple and gold. Kobe deserves some attention because he clearly is the most talented but overall goes to Magic for being the consummate team player that he is. Edited January 7, 2016 by hahnz Quote Link to comment
Guiness Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Kobe leads in second voting returns for All-Star 2016Curry second among all players while James leads way in the East NEW YORK — The Los Angeles Lakers' Kobe Bryant and the Cleveland Cavaliers' LeBron James continue to lead their respective conferences in the second returns of NBA All-Star Voting 2016 presented by Verizon. Bryant, a 17-time All-Star selection, tops all players with 1,262,118 votes, ahead of the Golden State Warriors' Stephen Curry (925,789). James, seeking his 12th All-Star nod in 13 seasons, leads the Eastern Conference with 636,388 votes.James, the Indiana Pacers' Paul George (457,554) and the Detroit Pistons' Andre Drummond (261,158) continue to pace the East's frontcourt players, with the New York Knicks' Carmelo Anthony (255,536) close behind. The Miami Heat's Dwyane Wade (562,558) and the Cavaliers' Kyrie Irving (271,094) are still the leading vote-getters among East guards, followed by the Toronto Raptors' Kyle Lowry (242,276).Curry and the Oklahoma City Thunder's Russell Westbrook (479,512 votes) maintain the top two spots among Western Conference guards. Bryant and the Thunder's Kevin Durant (616,096) remain ahead in the West frontcourt voting, while the Warriors' Draymond Green (332,223) has moved into the third spot. Green, who has an NBA-high seven triple-doubles this season, leads the San Antonio Spurs' Kawhi Leonard (330,929) by a slim margin.The 65th NBA All-Star Game will tip off on Sunday, Feb. 14 at Air Canada Centre in Toronto, the first All-Star Game to be held outside of the U.S. The game will be seen by fans in more than 200 countries and territories and will be heard in more than 40 languages. TNT will televise the All-Star Game in the U.S. for the 14th consecutive year, marking Turner Sports' 31st year of NBA All-Star coverage. The next balloting update for NBA All-Star Voting 2016 presented by Verizon will be shared on Thursday, Jan. 14. Voting will conclude on Monday, Jan. 18 at 11:59:59 p.m. ET. Starters will be announced live on TNT on Thursday, Jan. 21 during a special one-hour edition of TNT NBA Tip-Off presented by Autotrader.com at 7 p.m. ET, featuring Ernie Johnson, Charles Barkley, Shaquille O'Neal and Kenny Smith. The special will air before TNT's exclusive doubleheader featuring the L.A. Clippers at the Cavaliers (8 p.m. ET) and the Spurs at the Phoenix Suns (10:30 p.m. ET). The All-Star Game reserves, selected by the NBA's 30 head coaches, will be revealed live on TNT on Thursday, Jan. 28. NBA ALL-STAR 2016 VOTING PRESENTED BY VERIZON Eastern Conference - Frontcourt1 LeBron James (Cle) 636,3882 Paul George (Ind) 457,5543 Andre Drummond (Det) 261,1584 Carmelo Anthony (NYK) 255,5365 Pau Gasol (Chi) 209,0066 Chris Bosh (Mia) 194,4297 Kevin Love (Cle) 172,5178 Hassan Whiteside (Mia) 168,5499 Kristaps Porzingis (NYK) 160,17010 Giannis Antetokounmpo (Mil) 48,76811 Jonas Valanciunas (Tor) 30,02312 Marcin Gortat (Was) 27,18513 Joakim Noah (Chi) 23,12114 DeMarre Carroll (Tor) 22,79715 Paul Millsap (Atl) 21,625 Guards1 Dwyane Wade (Mia) 562,5582 Kyrie Irving (Cle) 271,0943 Kyle Lowry (Tor) 242,2764 Jimmy Butler (Chi) 220,4295 John Wall (Was) 207,2746 DeMar DeRozan (Tor) 170,5397 Derrick Rose (Chi) 159,7878 Jeremy Lin (Cha) 122,9889 Isaiah Thomas (Bos) 87,45210 Reggie Jackson (Det) 44,525 Western Conference - Frontcourt1 Kobe Bryant (LAL) 1,262,1182 Kevin Durant (OKC) 616,0963 Draymond Green (GS) 332,2234 Kawhi Leonard (SA) 330,9295 Blake Griffin (LAC) 298,2126 Anthony Davis (NO) 261,4917 Tim Duncan (SA) 228,9958 Zaza Pachulia (Dal) 194,4219 DeMarcus Cousins (Sac) 190,06010 Enes Kanter (OKC) 183,46811 LaMarcus Aldridge (SA) 124,40412 Dwight Howard (Hou) 120,42413 Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 99,68114 DeAndre Jordan (LAC) 91,18615 Harrison Barnes (GS) 82,427 Guards1 Stephen Curry (GS) 925,7892 Russell Westbrook (OKC) 479,5123 Chris Paul (LAC) 268,6724 Klay Thompson (GS) 267,6025 James Harden (Hou) 249,8776 Rajon Rondo (Sac) 120,7677 Andre Iguodala (GS) 111,5758 Manu Ginobili (SA) 100,6029 Tony Parker (SA) 86,23810 Damian Lillard (Por) 81,035 Quote Link to comment
Greenboy27 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/42499/execs-weigh-in-on-kobes-place-in-all-time-laker-ranksExecs weigh in on Kobe's place in all-time Lakers ranks As Kobe Bryant works his way around the league on a farewell tour, he is being celebrated as one of the greatest players of all time.But is Kobe even the greatest Laker? ESPN asked NBA executives and coaches who they believed was the greatest Laker of all time, and it wasn’t close. Magic Johnson, who along with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar formed arguably the greatest duo to ever play the game, received 69 percent of the votes. Of the 65 respondents, 45 said Johnson was the greatest Laker ever. “Magic without a doubt," said one executive who also played in the league. “I love Kobe, but Magic brought more to the table."Bryant and Abdul-Jabbar tied for second with seven votes apiece, and Jerry West, who followed his terrific Lakers playing career with an unparalleled career in the team's front office, received five votes. Wilt Chamberlain, the greatest statistical force the game has ever known, played only five seasons with the Lakers and was named by one voter.kobe.jpgThose who voted for Bryant were surprised the final tally was so lopsided.“Kobe won two titles without Shaq," said an executive. “Magic didn’t win any titles without Kareem. I thought Kobe would get more love for his five titles."Both Johnson and Bryant won five championships in Los Angeles -- same as Abdul-Jabbar. However, Abdul-Jabbar won a title in Milwaukee before joining the Lakers in 1975.In addition to his six championships, Abdul-Jabbar, the leading scorer in NBA history, won a league-record six MVP awards, but only three of them came with the Lakers, leaving him tied with Johnson for the most in franchise history. Some executives said they consider Abdul-Jabbar the greatest player to ever wear a Lakers uniform and arguably the greatest player in league history, even as they consider Johnson the greatest Laker. Others said they believe the two superstars’ contrasting personalities -- Johnson's gregarious, Abdul-Jabbar's grouchy -- play a role in the perceptions of them. “If people didn’t factor in Kareem’s personality, he would be much more in the mix [for greatest Laker]," said one longtime executive. “It’s hard to argue with either Kareem or Magic, but Kareem’s personality impacts the vote." West, who may have better statistics -- 27 points, 6.7 assists, 5.8 rebounds per game for his career -- than either Johnson or Bryant, was also in the mix. The Los Angeles Angeles Lakers boast the second most titles in NBA history, their 16 championships second only to the 17 claimed by their arch-rival Boston Celtics. The next closest team is the Chicago Bulls with their six NBA titles of the Michael Jordan era. The Lakers have spoiled their fans with success over the years. The Lakers have attained that level of success mostly by being fortunate enough to almost always have teams stacked with great players. 21 Hall-of-Famers have spent at least part of their careers suiting up for the purple and gold, and the team has retired 9 players' jersey numbers to the rafters, never to be worn again in honor of those players' accomplishments.Both of those numbers are set to increase within the next few years after Kobe Bryant retires at the conclusion of the Lakers' 2015-16 season. The five-time champion who won an MVP in 2008 and was MVP of the NBA Finals the next two years has had enough success during his time in the purple and gold to prompt the team to consider retiring both of the jersey numbers he has worn throughout his career. Despite all of this success, NBA executives and coaches polled anonymously by Chris Broussard of ESPN still rank Bryant as tied for second-best Lakers player of all-time:Magic Johnson had plenty of success over his time as a Laker and is by no means a bad choice as the best player to ever play for the franchise. When comparing two guards who have attained as many accolades and victories as Bryant and Johnson, it really is a matter of personal preference, and likely depends on one's generation.ESPN asked NBA executives and coaches who they believed was the greatest Laker of all time, and it wasn't close. Magic Johnson, who along with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar formed arguably the greatest duo to ever play the game, received 69 percent of the votes. Of the 65 respondents, 45 said Johnson was the greatest Laker ever. "Magic without a doubt," said one executive who also played in the league. "I love Kobe, but Magic brought more to the table."Bryant and Abdul-Jabbar tied for second with seven votes apiece, and Jerry West, who followed his terrific Lakers playing career with an unparalleled career in the team's front office, received five votes. Wilt Chamberlain, the greatest statistical force the game has ever known, played only five seasons with the Lakers and was named by one voter. For Lakers fans who grew up in the 80's and 90's, Johnson or Abdul-Jabbar are likely to to top this list. Fans older than that may choose West or Chamberlain, just as fans raised more recently are almost sure to pick Bryant or even Shaquille O'Neal. The argument just illustrates how lucky Lakers fans are to have so many great players to choose from as the best they have ever seen. “When West joined the Lakers, basketball had just moved to Los Angeles, and the sport really had no followers to speak of," an executive said. Other players who got votes were Jerry West and Wilt Chamberlain “Jerry came along as this young player, this Olympian, and did things that were just incredible without the benefit of ever, ever having an outstanding center until Wilt came along at the end of Jerry’s career. He put basketball on the map in Southern California and did things that to this day are just mind-blowing, particularly in the playoffs." The most interesting comparison was made by a general manager who tried to explain why Johnson’s five championships seemed to hold more weight than Bryant’s. “Kobe [ticks] people off and Magic usually said all the right things," the GM said. “They were different players. [Magic] made everyone better. [Kobe] made the team better. In my heart, I know it’s Magic [who’s the greatest Laker], but Kobe was unreal at times.“Kobe is like Anakin Skywalker. The force was strong with him and he could not control it at times. He had too many weapons and abused the power. He was loved as a young Jedi, hated during his prime as a ruler, and now everyone’s coming back around at the end. Magic is Yoda, always teaching and making others better -- the leader that elevates others.” - Since this was to be Kobe's last season. This week NBA executives around the league were asked who they think is the greatest Laker ever. The results had Magic leading most of the votes followed by Kareem and Kobe who were tied for 2nd. Jerry West and Wilt Chamberlain were also voted, but Magic was the overall favorite by a landslide . Here is a list of Laker players who you think should be considered as the greatest Laker of all time. Anyone can add a player not on this list if they think they deserve to be the Greatest Laker. Magic JohnsonKobe BryantKareem Abdul JabbarJerry WestWilt ChamberlainJamaal WilkesJames WorthyShaquille O'NealElgin BaylorBob McadooGail Goodrich I think the the NBA execs are right in putting Magic ahead of Kobe but i have to note that out of all the players to wear purple and gold. Kobe deserves some attention because he clearly is the most talented but overall goes to Magic for being the consummate team player that he is. i consider AC Green .. 2 eras include si green sa champion line up - showtime era and Kobe Shaq era. Quote Link to comment
Guiness Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) http://www.lakersnation.com/adam-silver-indicates-nba-will-honor-kobe-bryant-at-all-star-game/2016/01/16/ Adam Silver Indicates NBA Will Honor Kobe Bryant At All-Star Game Superstar Kobe Bryant of the Los Angeles Lakers continues to lead the way in the voting for the 2016 NBA All-Star Game. Bryant leads all players in both conferences with 1,533,432 votes following by reigning NBA MVP, Stephen Curry at 1,206,467.Along with potentially being the lead vote-getter before Monday’s deadline, it appears Bryant may be in for another tribute on a much bigger scale.NBA commissioner Adam Silver recently talked about the prospect of honoring Kobe with a presentation at the All-Star Game in Toronto next month via Mark Woods: The NBA All-Star Game will take place at the Air Canada Centre in Toronto on Feb. 14. It will be the 18th and final All-Star Game for Bryant. The future Hall of Famer always excels in All-Star appearances and currently holds the record for most MVPs won at four which is one more than Michael Jordan. Bryant last won the award in 2011 in front of his home crowd at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.Although Kobe may try to go for a fifth MVP award in the NBA’s showdown of the best of the best, Bryant will likely be hoping to be simply healthy enough to play against the likes of LeBron James and the Eastern Conference All-Stars. Kobe is currently dealing with an Achilles strain as well as with a persistently sore right shoulder. Bryant may continue to miss time while dealing with these ailments, but has a month to get ready for the All-Star Game. Edited January 17, 2016 by hahnz 1 Quote Link to comment
Arinola Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Kobe is the Laker All-time Great. Magic should be behind Kobe. End of discussion. Quote Link to comment
Arinola Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 How can you say sa drafting ni d'angelo russel? Its to early for me to say na mas ok kung kinuha si okafor or porzingis over russel kasi I believe padin somehow na mataas ang ceiling of potential ni d russ. Quote Link to comment
HarryPotter25 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 After a Thursday that saw conflicting reports about the trade availability ofLos Angeles Lakers rookie point guard D'Angelo Russell, a few more familiar names were again reported to be available. Marc Stein of ESPN filed a report on various players available in trades leaguewide, and after reporting that the Denver Nuggets are " making no secret of veteran forward JJ Hickson's availability", Stein continued"ditto for the Los Angeles Lakers and a number of veterans on their roster: Roy Hibbert, Brandon Bass, Nick Young and Lou Williams." Those four veterans being available is no surprise on a team that currently sits with a record of 9-39 after losing their last eight games, especially when Steve Kyler of Basketball Insiders reported earlier this month that Hibbert, Young, and Basse were available, with Bass "expected" to be moved. Of those four players, Hibbert and Young are in the midst of arguably the worst seasons of their careers, which makes it difficult to find teams that would potentially be interested in acquiring them,. Bass, on the other hand, is shooting, a team high 55.4% from the field (among players to appear in more than 15 games). bouncing back after a poor start to the campaign. Still, it's hard to see a half season rental like Bass (who has a player option after this season) who is only making a reported $3 million this season fetching much in a trade. Similarly, Williams is a known quality as a relatively efficient scoring option off the bench, and would presumably fetch some value in a hypothetical trade, but it's hard to predict which type of team could be willing to give up the types of young assets or draft picks the Lakers would presumably want in return for Williams. The trade deadline is February 18th, but expect plenty more noise around the Lakers before then. Quote Link to comment
azraelmd Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Kung mataas potential ni d angelo...dapat lumabas na ngayon...considering na number 2 draft pick cya..look at porzingis ganyan ang may potential...consider the lakers lucky if he even turns into a kyle lowry...the way i see it he'll be an OJ mayo type or brandon jennings...masasayang lang improvement ni clarkson...since i think theyll give the reins to d angelo after kobe retires... Lakers are hoping he'd turn into a russel westbrook type...the only similarity he has with westbrook..theyre both russel... Im a lakers fan....and i believe they should have picked okafor... Quote Link to comment
theluffy99 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Tanking pa rin! Quote Link to comment
Hari ng Spakol Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Kobe leads in second voting returns for All-Star 2016Curry second among all players while James leads way in the East It's good to see Kobe to play once more in the All star game this year. Quote Link to comment
engrkram Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 anong trade po ngaganap ngayon s lakers? makakalaro dn po ba si kobe s all star ngayon?? Quote Link to comment
elmojo Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 i hope the all stars game will be good to kobe, i mean, i hope they let him do his stuff, one last time. Quote Link to comment
crossbones Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 i hope the all stars game will be good to kobe, i mean, i hope they let him do his stuff, one last time.i think he will win all star MVP...... Quote Link to comment
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