Dear Noynoy

[Ryuji_tanaka]

Dear Noy,

 

Grow a pair and get a backbone.

 

Hire a better speechwriter.....the one you have right now make you look and sound like a effete fop.

[skitz]

Hire a better speechwriter.....the one you have right now make you look and sound like a effete fop.

 

Fire all your people in the "communications group". They're useless.

[jopoc]

Fire all your people in the "communications group". They're useless.

 

 

what about due process? nobody will believe noynoy's admin if he does not observe due process.

Edited September 28, 2010 by jopoc

[dungeonbaby]

TRUE! Kaya nga konting cooperation naman muna sa mga kababayan. Kung sa tingin nyo ang paulit-ulit na tawaging ABNOY ang ating presidente ay nakakadaggdag sa INVESTOR CONFIDENCE, aba, mag isip-isip naman kayo. Whether you like it or not, CONFIDENCE in the PRESIDENT means CONFIDENCE in the country.

 

Pero sa mga desididong magunaw na ang Pilipinas, dahil hindi nanalo ang punyetang Gibo na yan, sige, tuloy nyo lang ang banat. Magsama-sama tayo sa impyerno.

 

Do you mean to say the criticism comes from one camp alone?! Ang husay naman. It was, if you recall, the president himself who declared that we are the boss of him. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT you have no monopoly on speaking your mind. But you can't seem to abide by any criticism of your anointed one. What all this complaining is, is the manifestation of his bosses taking that statement seriously. Or did you intend this thread to be just for positive feedback, a thread to soothe the easily-offended ego, a thread to patting you in the back for choosing the right man?

 

And speaking of positive things, did you just have an epiphany in June, after the elections were over? Where was this lucid piece of advice in the past? The double standard belies the attempt at magnanimity.

 

to a certain extent, i agree with you. i think that it is ok to criticize the actions of the president kung sa tingin mo mali. but to go as far as being personal or calling the president names just because hindi nagustuhan yung decision (or indecision) nya, that is crossing the line.

 

those who are calling him abnoy are just trying to be a pain the ass.

 

Anyone who calls the president names is either being a pain in the ass, trying to make a point, or is just plain belligerent and has no interest in debating issues. Maybe they're just venting like we all did PRE-NOYNOY. All acceptable reasons here it would seem. The real question is does this only apply to one side - only to those who call PNoy names?

 

Relentless personal attacks are the domain of the desperate, lazy, or the intellectually weak. Why anyone even bothers to read the posts in question (from both sides) is beyond me. Just admit you come to MTC to verbally b*tchslap each other.

 

When someone calls PNoy Abnoy, I just stop reading his post right there. I suggest, Skitz, you do the same.

[skitz]

When someone calls PNoy Abnoy, I just stop reading his post right there. I suggest, Skitz, you do the same.

 

I shall take your advice. I think I have been doing that for a long time.

 

As for criticisms, heck, I've been reading Jopoc's (sometimes) harsh tirades against my "annointed one". Since there is VALUE in what he has to say, and not the automatic basta maka-kontra lang tirades like MANY FOOLS here have been guilty of. I've even CONCEDED to many observations/criticisms (and not just Jopoc's). We are a deomcracy. Criticism is part and parcel of it. However, I just wanted to remind the "intellectually lazy", that their brainless tirades is NOT DOING THE COUNTRY ANY GOOD. Kung talaga meron dapat punain, GO! Ako mismo, pupukol. Pero kung katangahan lang at pag ngawa-ngawa ad infinitum ang drama, wag na lang. Lalo lang kayong mukhang kawawa.

 

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And I apologize if am a little exasperated at this point. Medyo nakakapagod na rin kasi. Tulad ng isa dyan, ang galing ng birada dun sa Hacienda Luisita thread. Nang patulan ko at bigyan ng isang matinong diskusyon, san nagpunta? Nawala na parang bula. Wala masabi kundi "sabi ni Penoy kayo ang boss ko, ang mga taga Hacienda Luisita, boss rin nya?". So tameme. Pero ng mangyari yun bus crisis, heto na naman hirit na naman ng "sabi ni Penoy kayo ang boss ko, ang mga taga Hacienda Luisita, boss rin nya?" Anaknang... pano ka ba naman hindi ma eexasperate sa mga ganitong istilo?

Edited September 28, 2010 by skitz

[kamote042988]

quite a few foreigners are wondering why the philippines, since the time of marcos, has not really progressed....

and it is very, very difficult to explain why...considering we have abundant natural resources...we have a beautiful country...and the 10 million OFW's are mostly

ambassadors of goodwill to the whole world...

 

let them read the above post by El Rey...and i am very sure, absolutely, positively 120% SURE, that whoever asks the question would say...."aaahhhh....this is why"

 

 

THANK GOD WOLFWHISTLER.. U ABSOLUTELY GOT MY POINT....

[Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14]

I'm sure the Anti-Noynoys of mtc would read the Inquirer headline today as a negative. "Aquino back with $2.4B in new US investments", also the business news, "Stocks continue to climb". Yang mga ganyang bagay BAD NEWS sa desididong basta kumontra na lang.

 

Slamdunk, pati JP Morgan gusto mag-invest. So ano ngayon? Bad news ba ito? Dapat bang kontrahin natin? Sabihin natin sa Coca-cola na abnoy ang presidente natin at wag ng mag-invest? At wag silang mag-i-invest hangga't hindi si Gibo ang presidente?

 

Dear ABNoy,

 

Kung may dala kang bagong investment aba'y dapat lang! trabaho mo yan bilang presidente.

 

PERO ANG TANONG; TAMA BA YUNG DATOS NA PINAGYAYABANG NA YAN?! lalo na at binanggit mo na ang JPMorgan Chase ay gusto "RAW" mag invest sa bansa? Teka muna, PANAHON PA NI GMA nag-iinvest na ang bangko sa bansa natin, kung nagagawi ka banda sa Taguig, makikita mo dyan dalawang building na may malalaking letra na "JPMORGAN CHASE AND CO.".

 

2005 pa (kung tama ang memorya ko) nasa bansa na natin yang bangko na yan kung saan din ako nagta-trabaho, kung desisyon ng Presidente ng kumpanya na palawigin pa ang opisina sa bansa yan ay hindi dahil sa ginawang pangungumbinsi "kuno" ni ABNoy, dahil talagang matagal nang nag-eexpand ang kumpanya sa bansa.

 

Mahilig talaga etong admin na ito mang-agaw ng achievements at proyekto! Masabi lang na may achievements silang nagawa, MAHIYA NAMAN KAYO!

 

Maaaring meron ka rin naman sigurong dalang BAGONG investors sa bansa pero malamang sa malamang wala pang 1BILYON yan, (hindi nga counted yung sa JPMorgan) hindi tulad ng pinagmamalaki nyo.

Edited September 28, 2010 by Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14

[Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14]

I shall take your advice. I think I have been doing that for a long time.

 

As for criticisms, heck, I've been reading Jopoc's (sometimes) harsh tirades against my "annointed one". Since there is VALUE in what he has to say, and not the automatic basta maka-kontra lang tirades like MANY FOOLS here have been guilty of. I've even CONCEDED to many observations/criticisms (and not just Jopoc's). We are a deomcracy. Criticism is part and parcel of it. However, I just wanted to remind the "intellectually lazy", that their brainless tirades is NOT DOING THE COUNTRY ANY GOOD. Kung talaga meron dapat punain, GO! Ako mismo, pupukol. Pero kung katangahan lang at pag ngawa-ngawa ad infinitum ang drama, wag na lang. Lalo lang kayong mukhang kawawa.

 

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And I apologize if am a little exasperated at this point. Medyo nakakapagod na rin kasi. Tulad ng isa dyan, ang galing ng birada dun sa Hacienda Luisita thread. Nang patulan ko at bigyan ng isang matinong diskusyon, san nagpunta? Nawala na parang bula. Wala masabi kundi "sabi ni Penoy kayo ang boss ko, ang mga taga Hacienda Luisita, boss rin nya?". So tameme. Pero ng mangyari yun bus crisis, heto na naman hirit na naman ng "sabi ni Penoy kayo ang boss ko, ang mga taga Hacienda Luisita, boss rin nya?" Anaknang... pano ka ba naman hindi ma eexasperate sa mga ganitong istilo?

 

 

Dear ABNoy,

 

Can you ask your apologist here if he can name one, JUST ONE anti-noynoy poster who he consider as "intellectually lazy or weak"?

 

AFAIC, all of those who's been in the negative have ALL raised valid points and/or issues against ABNoy, Name calling (just like what I'm doing) is the least your apologist should worry about, The Jueteng Payola, Hostage Incident, NFA flip-flop, RICO PUNO, even your communications group,..these are the issues that your admin needs to address and resolve, and so far WALA PA KAMING NAKIKITANG AKSYON GALING SAYO! And your fan club members wants us to stop attacking you and your WEAK LEADERSHIP?! Ano ka sinuswerte! mahirap magtanga-tangahan tulad ng iba dyan!

Edited September 28, 2010 by Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14

[CUMonYou]

Do you mean to say the criticism comes from one camp alone?! Ang husay naman. It was, if you recall, the president himself who declared that we are the boss of him. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT you have no monopoly on speaking your mind. But you can't seem to abide by any criticism of your anointed one. What all this complaining is, is the manifestation of his bosses taking that statement seriously. Or did you intend this thread to be just for positive feedback, a thread to soothe the easily-offended ego, a thread to patting you in the back for choosing the right man?

 

Dear Noy, Your projects are on the way and in almost 3 months you have made example to various LGU in teh country..

 

Cant help but respond to this post kahit medyo busy this past weeks...I think its very literal when you mentioned that we are his boss..Yes we are his boss but not in the most literal meaning..We are a democracy and when he said we are his boss means that the majority of the people's wish and needs are what he will be implementing. Just like the birth control issue. Its the best for every Juan and Maria in this country to be informed about reduction in population but its not the best for the church. Kung lahat ng pinoy na lang boss eh di ginawa namang santa clause si Pnoy? doesnt make sense right? Just like in a company the board of directors is the boss of the CEO but it doesnt mean every whims of the board members are what he will follow its the majority of the BOD's decision

Edited September 28, 2010 by CUMonYou

[howarddeduct]

Dear Abnoy,

 

I have decided to join the bandwagon of Abnoy bashers. You see, I love all things negative. Nothing stimulates my primitive mind than these intellectual carnage and brutality.

 

And for all of you Abnoy bashers, keep on treating our subject like a low down dirty shame.

 

 

Abnormally yours,

Howard

[camiar]

I'm sure the Anti-Noynoys of mtc would read the Inquirer headline today as a negative. "Aquino back with $2.4B in new US investments", also the business news, "Stocks continue to climb". Yang mga ganyang bagay BAD NEWS sa desididong basta kumontra na lang.

 

Slamdunk, pati JP Morgan gusto mag-invest. So ano ngayon? Bad news ba ito? Dapat bang kontrahin natin? Sabihin natin sa Coca-cola na abnoy ang presidente natin at wag ng mag-invest? At wag silang mag-i-invest hangga't hindi si Gibo ang presidente?

Hoy Noy!

 

Naloko mo na naman ang mga fans mo dito. Me good news ka daw!??!!

 

What are you trying to pass off to your gullible supporters? That when you became President, these American companies suddenly decided to invest billions next year?

 

Yes, its good news! But what your fans don’t know is that those investments were already earmarked TWO YEARS AGO. Our company has been eyeing to participate in three of those projects ($2.0B out of the $2.4B) since 2008. It just so happens that projects of this magnitude takes long to implement and these, in particular, has to be started in 2011. It didn’t matter who the Philippine President would have been by that time – it will push through, and you have nothing to do with it!

 

Your claims merely show how desperate you are for anything you can pass off as good news to your desperate supporters.

 

And in turn, your supporters are desperately waiting for any good news coming from you.

 

This so called “good news’ is another dud. Another case of grabbing credit from the past administrations' achievements.

[resident_big_evil]

I shall take your advice. I think I have been doing that for a long time.

 

As for criticisms, heck, I've been reading Jopoc's (sometimes) harsh tirades against my "annointed one". Since there is VALUE in what he has to say, and not the automatic basta maka-kontra lang tirades like MANY FOOLS here have been guilty of. I've even CONCEDED to many observations/criticisms (and not just Jopoc's). We are a deomcracy. Criticism is part and parcel of it. However, I just wanted to remind the "intellectually lazy", that their brainless tirades is NOT DOING THE COUNTRY ANY GOOD. Kung talaga meron dapat punain, GO! Ako mismo, pupukol. Pero kung katangahan lang at pag ngawa-ngawa ad infinitum ang drama, wag na lang. Lalo lang kayong mukhang kawawa.

 

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And I apologize if am a little exasperated at this point. Medyo nakakapagod na rin kasi. Tulad ng isa dyan, ang galing ng birada dun sa Hacienda Luisita thread. Nang patulan ko at bigyan ng isang matinong diskusyon, san nagpunta? Nawala na parang bula. Wala masabi kundi "sabi ni Penoy kayo ang boss ko, ang mga taga Hacienda Luisita, boss rin nya?". So tameme. Pero ng mangyari yun bus crisis, heto na naman hirit na naman ng "sabi ni Penoy kayo ang boss ko, ang mga taga Hacienda Luisita, boss rin nya?" Anaknang... pano ka ba naman hindi ma eexasperate sa mga ganitong istilo?

i wouldn't go as far as calling them all intellectually weak... a few of them do have their moments... but what those few who have their moments have in common with those that are intellectually lazy is that they are all perpetually indignant malcontents who are only happy when unhappy & can probably be only happier when they're spreading whatever bug crawled up their collective asses... hell, they'll probably still spew even if aquino does manage to get us out of this quagmire the dwarf lady & company left us in...

[skitz]

Like I said, I would stop reading at the first "Dear Abnoy". But I am sure he made another brilliant post -- given the CREDIBILITY he has earned over the last two years or so on mtc.

 

AS for these INVESTMENTS were earmarked 2 years ago. Ok, you want to play it that way? Look, I went on record that PNoy is ULTIMATELY responsible for the hostage fiasco as he is now the commander in chief. But if we are going to give GMA the credit for what she has done "two years ago" as you say, remember too that the SWAT team that tried the rescue was trained "two years ago". So ano ba? Yung blame lang ang credited now, pero pag positive, kay GMA? Anakngteteng... ang galing naman nun.

[dungeonbaby]

Like I said, I would stop reading at the first "Dear Abnoy". But I am sure he made another brilliant post -- given the CREDIBILITY he has earned over the last two years or so on mtc.

 

AS for these INVESTMENTS were earmarked 2 years ago. Ok, you want to play it that way? Look, I went on record that PNoy is ULTIMATELY responsible for the hostage fiasco as he is now the commander in chief. But if we are going to give GMA the credit for what she has done "two years ago" as you say, remember too that the SWAT team that tried the rescue was trained "two years ago". So ano ba? Yung blame lang ang credited now, pero pag positive, kay GMA? Anakngteteng... ang galing naman nun.

 

That's an inaccurate way of summarizing the arguments against the president. There is a distinct difference in ascribing economic gains to the past administration and ascribing the loss of lives during the hostage crisis to the present administration. It's not at all a double standard as you like to believe. Economic gains are credited to the past administration because it was that administration's policies that made the gains possible. Though it's true the past administration left PNoy with an incompetent police force (under whose presidency was the police force really ever competent anyway?), it was only the past admin's fault for the first 2 maybe 3 hours of that crisis. PNoy had MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME to correct that situation, this was clearly a lack of leadership ability. He himself said he got frustrated while he watched the swat team move in. Kind of a delayed (and timid) reaction there, you think? Especially for the leader of a nation. You need a LEADer for these kinds of situations, not just a nice man who is not corrupt.

 

(Another difference between this hostage crisis and the Maguindanao massacre that you love to bring up, is that when we found out about the Maguindanao massacre people were already dead. When we found out about the Quirino grandstand hostage situation, people were still waving at the TV crews. BIG DIFFERENCE. HUGE.)

 

PNoy is ultimately responsible not just because he is NOW the commander-in-chief, and is in charge of a laughable set of policemen that he inherited from past administrationS but because he had more than enough time to SOLVE the hostage crisis. Way, way more than enough time to figure something out. When he said his mistake was to trust his people on the ground, that was revealing in two parts: one, he had no clue about his people; two, he sure took his time getting that confidence shattered at the expense of human lives. He waited way too long to start questioning his decision to trust. You've heard all the criticism, from here and abroad, from the ordinary citizen spouting to the experts' opinions on ALL the different things that could've been done. What was the common denominator of all that criticism? Decision-making from the top tier was nonexistent.

 

And his handling of the whole affair afterward? I'm sure you've read one of the survivors' articulate response to that already.

 

Here's a message to the collective Pinoy:

 

At least have the decency to bow your head in contrition until you've improved the situation. Don't get defensive. Don't get annoyed. To be sorry means you do not make excuses for yourselves. Stop talking, stop grinning, stop saying the anger is not justified. Stop acting like a spoiled kid. Do something.

[kookoochiao]

Like I said, I would stop reading at the first "Dear Abnoy". But I am sure he made another brilliant post -- given the CREDIBILITY he has earned over the last two years or so on mtc.

 

AS for these INVESTMENTS were earmarked 2 years ago. Ok, you want to play it that way? Look, I went on record that PNoy is ULTIMATELY responsible for the hostage fiasco as he is now the commander in chief. But if we are going to give GMA the credit for what she has done "two years ago" as you say, remember too that the SWAT team that tried the rescue was trained "two years ago". So ano ba? Yung blame lang ang credited now, pero pag positive, kay GMA? Anakngteteng... ang galing naman nun.

 

I am no GMA supporter nor am I a P-noy fan or basher. Just want to make a point. The comparison is not "apples to apples" simply because the "team" which undertook the rescue was not the best which the Philippines had to offer. It was already stated as a matter of public record during the IIRC that there were other elite teams on stand-by. Why they were not utilized is anyone's guess. So it's still the problem of "leadership" or a lack of it during the crisis which resulted in the fiasco.