game_boy Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 we may have to ask our ofw brothers and sisters for help again. they may have sired 6'10s or 7-ftrs while working overseas so i believe they should recognize these kids and bring them over here. the ofw kids can now be rewarded financially playing basketball in p.i. with an mvp backing and hopefully the other big corporate sponsors should support also, it has commercial viability anyway. the usd15k monthly budget for a naturalized player will go a long way. Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 But i guess all that is for another discussion on a different thread and forum yup is a different topic from the current roster of Smart-Gilas team unless this players can be as deadly shooters like Larry Bird, Joe Johnson, Reggie Miller we can play against any FIBA Asia team toe to toe... but rarely we can produce as good as ALLAN CAIDIC. And this team not necessary to go to Europe to play basketball. would you care to expound on your statement? Are you implying that IRAN has no professional league at all which is counter to what have been presented a few post before or you are saying that this professional league no longer exist? pardon it was a misconception from Iraq to Iran lol... Quote Link to comment
echronic Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Boss: if you let them play in the PBA, they would develop PBA-brand habits (reliance on one-on-one, too much dribbling, little ball movements, too much post-ups), which would be detrimental to their development in terms of international play. They should join the Euro League or something. Or just follow the Iran/China teams around. If the Iran/China teams play in a given tournament, sali den tayo. Mukha tayong saling-pusa but there's no better way to get better than playing with the right type of competition. THEN PBA SHOULD APPLY FIBA RULES. THAT SIMPLE. Quote Link to comment
echronic Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 hayy, PERA PERA na talaga. panu kaya kung super duper laki budget ng pinas para sa olympics? as in more than what USA has (which is 99.9% impossible). --SAGOT: baka pati si MANNY VILLAR mag try-outs sa SMART GILAS hahaha! hayy, kelan kaya magiging PATRIOTIC tayong mga PINOY? SANA BUKAS! Quote Link to comment
downloading Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 THEN PBA SHOULD APPLY FIBA RULES. THAT SIMPLE. ain't that simple the way you posted it Quote Link to comment
rakizta Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 ain't that simple the way you posted it i agree...and to add,....ma-train sila as early as possible kse inde naman tayo mga NBA player na kahitilang months lang mag prepare pwede na kagad ibitaw sa intl game even they not using FIBA rules on NBA Quote Link to comment
peithe Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 2 ISSUES: First, I definitely agree regarding exposures to international tournaments ... this is one of the training methods for them to familiarize with the FIBA rules as well as international brand of play. Second, should we rethink of sending PBA players again if we fail in the 2011 FIBA? ... I just want to point out that the PBA/Pro players have been representing the country in the ABC/FIBA meet since 1990 and have experimented on various formula but so far none has work out quite well too. As we've all know the performance has deteriorated since that 2nd place finish. I just think it is quite unfair that the SBP & Gilas Team (the system and the players) would be given an "ultimatum for them to prove its worth in a single attemp. At this point I think the most we could aspire for is a final 4 and no guarantees to earn a slot in the 2012 Olympics. In fact while I bat for the Gilas team, I am conceding that chances of this team in the next FIBA maybe slim to none. But ofcourse as Filipino, I wish I could be proven wrong. What am saying is that let's give the SBP being the local basketball governing body a free hand on how to shape up RP basketball in the future. And looking at where we at now, don't expect an immediate major turnaround. It definitely would be a long way back. 6 Quote Link to comment
djlo Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 i say "exposure" lets them play other FIBA tourneys at magiging confident din yang mga players natin..... Quote Link to comment
bill_262003 Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 hayy, PERA PERA na talaga. panu kaya kung super duper laki budget ng pinas para sa olympics? as in more than what USA has (which is 99.9% impossible). --SAGOT: baka pati si MANNY VILLAR mag try-outs sa SMART GILAS hahaha! hayy, kelan kaya magiging PATRIOTIC tayong mga PINOY? SANA BUKAS! Actually it's not only the money given to the players but the money needed to expose them to international tournaments. Almost everyone here agrees that exposure to as much International Tournaments is needed for the team to get exposure. Others have suggested European leagues since their level of play is very high. But in order for us to play there we need the money to send the team. Hotel, food, plane fare, etc for the whole team plus a handful of officials. So money is indeed needed. On a side note:One thing I also noticed is that our pro players tend to play with the crowd. Meaning they tend to get their energy from the crowd. In international tournaments, more often than not the crowd is very few (except for the championship or playoff rounds). So our pro players need to be able to play mentally tough with or without the crowd. That is the advantage of these amateur players, they still have not developed that tendency to "show boat" or play for the crowd. That is why most of the teams that do well in international tournaments are teams that execute and pass well. Quote Link to comment
kanski Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 ain't that simple the way you posted it my thought exactly. Quote Link to comment
peithe Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 they still have not developed that tendency to "show boat" or play for the crowd. That is why most of the teams that do well in international tournaments are teams that execute and pass well. As they say " LARO NA, NILALARO PA" 4 Quote Link to comment
launchpad Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 i think what toroman have in mind like getting a giles who base on what others are saying aint performing much in the nba summer league, also a certain slaughter is being ask to join, sa akin lang, if mahina man bigs natin but have the height then work on their roles. being a deadly rebounder and a smart passer while being the least scorer is better than someone who has everything but cant maximize his efforts. probably develop barroca and other guards to be the real scorers, i doubt chris tiu would be a star PG but his there for handling reasons. i dont think he turn the ball over a lot of times. i havent seen him play much aside from the uaap days but surely he doesnt turn the ball over. Quote Link to comment
munchkins and donuts Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 That Tiu shoots fairly well too. He just became overrated because of the limelight brought about by the looks.. but the guy can play.. Quote Link to comment
amante Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 A lot has been said about the playing style of the PBA and how it should change its format, etcetera, etcetera…. Perhaps for a different thread, this may be an unpopular response but the only changes that I think the PBA should adopt are:Expand the league to accommodate more teams; loosen requirements for a local company to be able to field a team to the PBA; foreign brands includedScrap the automatic placement the semifinals; most especially the wildcard. Adopt the playoffs-style format. Double round robin sa All-Filipino and a shorter single round robin kapag reinforcedAlam ko a season or two back ginamit na ito pero they reverted back, yung no harm no foul style of referee callingLastly, kapag reinforced conference, drop na ung rule regarding height limit.Otherwise, using all-FIBA rules sa PBA? Forget it! I honestly think mababawasan ang entertainment value ng PBA and would eventually lead to the decline nito. And this is something that you certainly would not want. Let’s face it, if you are not fans of the PBA, you wouldn’t be this passionate about basketball Quote Link to comment
dencio Posted August 28, 2009 Share Posted August 28, 2009 I just think it is quite unfair that the SBP & Gilas Team (the system and the players) would be given an "ultimatum for them to prove its worth in a single attemp. At this point I think the most we could aspire for is a final 4 and no guarantees to earn a slot in the 2012 Olympics. In fact while I bat for the Gilas team, I am conceding that chances of this team in the next FIBA maybe slim to none. But ofcourse as Filipino, I wish I could be proven wrong. Agree. Doesn't make sense to give this program a short leash only to revert back to a formula which has proven to be ineffective over the past 20 years almost. Quote Link to comment
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