game_boy Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Like in the other countries, we should have a national team that practices as a team, day in and day out, whether there are tournaments or not. Until we do this, we cannot hope to catch up with our neighbors where this is the case.Nevertheless, congratuations to the team and thanks to Smart for providing the financial support! wishful thinking: if only manny pangilinan and ramon ang can join forces we can make it to the next qualifier of the olympics to include possible hosting of the next fiba championships in 2013 and 2015. now if henry sy gives his share we don't have to win any qualifier they can build a new sports complex to host the olympics which gives the philippines an automatic slot. Quote Link to comment
Richmond Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 The ghost of the missed free throws by Olsen Racela came back to haunt us yesterday I just can't recall when is the last time that our Philippine team beat a South Korean team may be in the Asian Games, Jones Cup or any international tournament. Quote Link to comment
junix Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Like in the other countries, we should have a national team that practices as a team, day in and day out, whether there are tournaments or not. Until we do this, we cannot hope to catch up with our neighbors where this is the case.Nevertheless, congratuations to the team and thanks to Smart for providing the financial support! maganda sana if this was the case. you can just imagine how cohesive your team could be. pati siguro amoy ng kakampi mo alam mo na. but then if you have a pba wherein players are given the fortune, then for sure flag and country will always take a back seat. just a query which probably could be answered by basketball experts here. di ba may professional league din ang china? how come china could still dominate asian basketball? or naka-hiwalay ba ang national players ng china sa professional league? Quote Link to comment
RED2018 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Well done, Gilas! Let's be happy for the decent 4th place finish. At least we improved from the last outing, and we're moving forward... I believe they have given their best, napiga na nila ang lahat. IMHO, the team lacks 3 basic things, though: 1. Tall Mobile Centers so sad we only had Marcus and there were times that Aguilar was not used when our ceiling force was helpless. Moreover, there should be at least 3 Marcuses in that team considering the ave. height of the opponents. 2. Accurate Shooting pressures of the game are inevitable, but basic dictates that free throws and open shots should be at least 80% accurate. with the opponents' size, rebound/recovery after field goal misses are sure thing; as for missed free throws, need I say more, we've been haunted by these miscues in the past 3. Legitimate Snipers the inputs of Ranidel and Jimmy were huge boosts. But they were not enough. Toroman practically relied on them. No one expected these 2 to be fiery each day. There could have been more 3pt snipers to the mold of Caidic, Engelland, or Renren who can deliver the clutch when needed. Recall they also had Almario and Reyes. 1 Quote Link to comment
kenichi15 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 its still an achievement. in three years who wouldve thought that we will become the number 4th squad in asia? evidently the program is there. kailangan na lang ng continuity. and im mighty proud to say a ragtag team composed of old guys and young ones gave the best of asia one hell of fight and show the rest and the best in asia that the philippines is back on the asian basketball scene. i hope they keep the program and mix with the old hands marcus douthit & chris tiu, it would be better too if aldrech ramos and greg salughter rejoins the team and see the likes of kiefer ravena, nico salva, rr garcia, terrence romeo, chris tolomia, jeric teng, chris camus, bobby ray parks, rome dela rosa, garvo lanete, ian sangalang, calvin abueva, jam cortez, carlo lastimosa and even jeron teng invited to try out for the squad. hats off to mvp and the staff and the smart gilas team. 1 Quote Link to comment
thegame08 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) Korea na naman!! The ghost of the missed free throws by Olsen Racela came back to haunt us yesterday I just can't recall when is the last time that our Philippine team beat a South Korean team may be in the Asian Games, Jones Cup or any international tournament. Wala na akong masabi, tormentor talaga natin ang Korea but still yo have to admire the way the Korean team played. Kulang pa din talaga sa experienced sa international competition ang mga players natin as compared to our Asian neighbors. Well done, Gilas! Let's be happy for the decent 4th place finish. At least we improved from the last outing, and we're moving forward... I believe they have given their best, napiga na nila ang lahat. IMHO, the team lacks 3 basic things, though: 1. Tall Mobile Centers so sad we only had Marcus and there were times that Aguilar was not used when our ceiling force was helpless. Moreover, there should be at least 3 Marcuses in that team considering the ave. height of the opponents. 2. Accurate Shooting pressures of the game are inevitable, but basic dictates that free throws and open shots should be at least 80% accurate. with the opponents' size, rebound/recovery after field goal misses are sure thing; as for missed free throws, need I say more, we've been haunted by these miscues in the past 3. Legitimate Snipers the inputs of Ranidel and Jimmy were huge boosts. But they were not enough. Toroman practically relied on them. No one expected these 2 to be fiery each day. There could have been more 3pt snipers to the mold of Caidic, Engelland, or Renren who can deliver the clutch when needed. Recall they also had Almario and Reyes. its still an achievement. in three years who wouldve thought that we will become the number 4th squad in asia? evidently the program is there. kailangan na lang ng continuity. and im mighty proud to say a ragtag team composed of old guys and young ones gave the best of asia one hell of fight and show the rest and the best in asia that the philippines is back on the asian basketball scene. i hope they keep the program and mix with the old hands marcus douthit & chris tiu, it would be better too if aldrech ramos and greg salughter rejoins the team and see the likes of kiefer ravena, nico salva, rr garcia, terrence romeo, chris tolomia, jeric teng, chris camus, bobby ray parks, rome dela rosa, garvo lanete, ian sangalang, calvin abueva, jam cortez, carlo lastimosa and even jeron teng invited to try out for the squad. hats off to mvp and the staff and the smart gilas team. Good observation, hopefully ituloy nila ang program dahil kahit pumasok na sa PBA ang karamihan sa mga players ng SG ay madami pa namang mga up-and-coming players from the different colleges and universities both here in the metro and in the province. Edited September 26, 2011 by thegame08 Quote Link to comment
cyking Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 kaya tayo natatalo sa asian at fiba...alam mo nyo kung bakit? dahil kay asi taulava...sya ang malas sa team...pekeng pinoy at may balat pa sa pwet... sana mawala na ang hayop na yan....pls lang wag ka na sumali pa.... taga samar leyte kuno'..pareho sila nina rob parker,al segova, sonny alvarado, dorian pena....sino promotor? si congressman daza ng leyte... Quote Link to comment
ppdd Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 it's sad to experience another hearthbreaking loss. pero ganun talaga. nde naman instant ang pagkapanalo at pagiging champion. hopefully, a loss would only inspire our players more to do better in the next competitions. i just hope na ipagpatuloy yung bball program natin na nasimulan. they are going in the right direction. keep it up guys! itigil na ang pulitika sa lahat ng sports. go team pilipinas! Quote Link to comment
kenichi15 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 kaya tayo natatalo sa asian at fiba...alam mo nyo kung bakit? dahil kay asi taulava...sya ang malas sa team...pekeng pinoy at may balat pa sa pwet... sana mawala na ang hayop na yan....pls lang wag ka na sumali pa.... taga samar leyte kuno'..pareho sila nina rob parker,al segova, sonny alvarado, dorian pena....sino promotor? si congressman daza ng leyte... ang laki ata ng galit mo kay tatang asi brader! Quote Link to comment
junix Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 the gilas program should continue. we saw the results of years of training by landing 4th in wuhan. i know the rest of asia has been watching the philippines of late. sinubukan pa tayong dayain when lassiter and lutz were not allowed to play in the first two games...then the switch in schedule from 1:00 pm to 6:00 pm. but with the proper program, right players (dedication included), exposure and funding, the philippines can reach greater heights. we can just hope and pray that bigwig sponsors like MVP and danding can set aside personal interests for the sake of flag and country. 1 Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 ang laki ata ng galit mo kay tatang asi brader! hahaha, tulog lang yan, mawawala na hangover.kauntin sopas lang. Quote Link to comment
xxxxdgnr8xxxx Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 pilitin kung pilitin. no guts, no glory!! Quote Link to comment
Droidz1979 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 The loss was a heartbreaker.. sa free throw na naman tayo nadale Pero hat's off pa din ako sa effort nila from the players coming from the amateurs (Jayvee Casio, Mac Baracael, Cris Tiu, Marc Barroca), Fil-ams (Marcio Lassiter and Cris Lutz), to our naturalized player (MarcusDouthit), our foreign coach (Toroman), to MVP (for the support and funding the team), players from TnT (Jimmy Alapag, Kelly Williams and Ranidel De Ocampo) and to Asi Taulava (senior statesman of the team) for giving it their all. Maski sa top 4 nung 1986 pa ata tayo huling nakapasok and yes its been that long. Now, we've regained the respect from other nations. Heck, we've just proved that teams like Korea, Iran, Lebanon, Jordan and China who have been together longer than Gilas are beatable. The program needs to continue and it needs to be supported. Quote Link to comment
photographer Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 MVP not giving up on Olympic basketball dream By June Navarro Philippine Daily Inquirer 9:39 pm | Monday, September 26th, 2011 159 share196 37 http://sports.inquirer.net/files/2011/09/talo27.jpgFibasia.net BEIJING—One failed mission hasn’t diminished the passion of basketball’s Most Valuable Patron in wanting to see the national team play in the Olympics someday. In fact, Samahang Basketbol ng Pilipinas president Manny V. Pangilinan takes inspiration from Smart Gilas Pilipinas’ best finish in over two decades in the Asian championship. The national squad of head coach Rajko Toroman failed to secure a slot in the 2012 London Olympics, finishing fourth in the recent 26th Fiba Asia Championship after losing the bronze medal tiff to South Korea on Sunday in Wuhan, China. “It’s a big improvement in recent years,” said Pangilinan, popularly known as MVP. “We found out that the program is working. We’re now fourth in Asia.” By reaching the semifinals, the Philippines boosted its Fiba world ranking and drew the respect of its rivals, including London-bound and new Asian champion China. China coach Bob Donewald said in an interview, after demolishing Lebanon in the quarterfinals, that he would rather have Jordan as opponent in the finals than take his chances with the Philippines. The Chinese went on to capture the gold, but not after pulling off a hair-raising 70-69 escape act against the Jordanians. The telecommunications and utilities magnate said Smart Gilas had been blessed with the luck of the draw at the start. “In a way, God favored us because we got into a good group. We also got lucky when Marcio (Lassiter) and Chris (Lutz) were allowed to play and we won all our games in the second round,” said Pangilinan. The Nationals, a bunch of talented amateurs boosted by a naturalized center in Marcus Douthit and four seasoned players from the PBA, won handily against Chinese Taipei in the quarterfinals but hit a roadblock in Jordan in the semifinals. The big boss at PLDT-Smart, Meralco and Maynilad said there are some weak spots in Smart Gilas that should be addressed when the SBP continues the program geared toward the 2013 Asian championship. “I’m not a coach or a player but there are certain weaknesses that I saw in this tournament that we have to seriously look into,” said Pangilinan. “If you ask me, there should be changes with the players. It’s not a criticism on the players that we have now. They tried their best and I should thank them, especially those on the program for three years and those from the PBA who made the sacrifice.” Team captain Chris Tiu, JV Casio, Mark Barroca, Mac Baracael, Japeth Aguilar, Dylan Ababou and Jason Ballesteros have been with Smart Gilas since the Olympic drive began late 2008. “I think our point guards are small,” said Pangilinan. “Not to say that our point guards are not good, but I believe that we need bigger point guards.” Jordan has the 6-foot-5 Osama Daghles while 6-3 Liu Wei and 6-7 Sun Yue, a former Los Angeles Laker, run the backcourt for China. Pangilinan said the SBP would rebuild the team around Douthit and add a couple of big guys in 7-footer Greg Slaughter and 6-9 Junmar Fajardo from Cebu. Another area up for review is the coaching staff headed by Toroman, whose contract ends this weekend. “We have to look at what’s good for the team in preparation for 2013,” said the tycoon. “No matter what people say, I’m still determined to support the program and see one day the Philippines in the Olympics, however long it takes, be it in 2016, 2020 or even beyond.” The Philippines last vied in the Olympics in Munich 1972 with a team bannered by Robert Jaworski and William Adornado. Quote Link to comment
khilua23 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 what now for coach toroman? “Toroman is doing a great job, so I don’t think replacing him would be a good idea,” said Cone, whose Centennial Team is the last Philippine basketball team to medal in a high-level regional competition after finishing third in the 1998 Asian Games. “We should give Toroman another chance,” Uichico said. “His style is tailor-made for the international competition.” “Sayang naman kung mababago yung programa. Ginastusan na rin nila eh,” said the PBA’s legendary Triggerman. “If you get a new coach, it will be a new system, so dapat si Rajko na rin.” One of the significant things coach Rajko brought to the program is discipline,” said Abanilla, who now assists Ato Agustin on the Petron bench. “You don’t see the players doing it on their own, but they’ve embraced the coach’s system and a coach would be happy to see that win or lose.” Guiao, meanwhile, isn’t as impressed by his former deputy. “Malaki ang advantage ni Rajko because he has rich experience in international basketball,” he said. “But he didn’t bring anything new because we’ve already seen before the things he had been doing for the SMART-Gilas team. “So, who’s the right coach to handle the national team in the next two years? It could be anybody. It could be Toroman or it could be another coach.” http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/pba-coaches-toroman-should-stay-guiao-anyone-could-coach Quote Link to comment
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